(first posted 4/24/2014) Here’s something I didn’t expect to see outside a grocery store in Utah. The badging says Austin Healey, but the flares, louvers and faux wire wheels all say Classic Roadsters Sebring MX.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen one of these for real before. I saw a lot of advertisements for them in Road & Track during the ’80s. At the time my teenaged self was rather dismissive of these cars; after all, the big Healey 3000 they mimic is one of the great sports cars of all time.
In the ’80s they were near the bottom of their depreciation curve and as I recall, you could buy a decent A-H for less money than a finished Sebring MX. This did not make sense to me, and I disdained the logic of building replicas that cost more than the genuine article.
Please forgive my horribly glared interior shot, inside we find more evidence for my Sebring MX identification. That stout shift lever is undoubtedly connected to an American four-speed transmission.
It looks like this example has had as long and rough a ride as the Classic Roadsters company itself. There is a bit of history available online for this company, which was apparently started by a Gary Rutherford of Fargo ND in 1979. They began production with a VW-based MG TD, then expanded the product line to include various front- and rear-engined TDs, some very 1970s interpretations of classic 1930s cars, and a couple of Austin Healey knockoffs.
The Saxon shown above follows the original Healey more closely, but doesn’t quite look right, mostly because of the windscreen being too flat and too tall. The Sebring seems to balance the design a little better, with the flares lowering the visual center of gravity.
By the mid 80’s, the original owner had sold the company, which was thereafter not managed well and closed down. The company was then reacquired and restarted in Minnesota as Classic Roasters II, also by the original owner. He later sold out again, and Classic Roadsters Ltd then somehow moved across the border to Saskatoon Saskatchewan in the process. They are still in business, so should you find yourself suitably inspired by this tell them Paul sent you when you buy your Sebring MX kit.
My older and wiser self can now see both sides of this replica car coin. True, the Austin Healey is one of the greats, but great cars sometimes aren’t very good cars. One of my Uncles briefly had a Healey 3000 for his daily driver in the 1970’s. The frequent and expensive repairs consumed his finances and prevented him from getting places. I can now see the case for a Healey that doesn’t rust ferociously, is half reliable, easy to maintain, and built without Lucas electrics.
I share your mixed feelings on replicas. My BIL has a replica of a 1930s Frazier Nash that his father built in the 70s on a VW chassis. It has stood stationary in the garage for 35 years. On one hand, I wonder what’s the point, as I would rather just have the VW. On the other hand, it is a simple to maintain roadster that a guy could buy for very little.
Yours is an interesting find. For the right price, one of these could be an enjoyable and unique ride.
I’ve got mixed feelings on them also,a Cobra is for lottery winners but a replica can be built for a lot less.There are however some horrible abominations with a knackered old Cortina’s engine and running gear out there.The Sebring MX looks to be one of the better examples
Yep, I also have mixed feelings. Cobra, GT40, and Lotus Seven can all be bought as replicas in varying levels of quality. I’m no purist, the right Speedster replica would suit me fine. There was that company in Germany making Gullwing replicas and MB shut them down a few years ago. Some of those VW Morgan replicas, on the other hand…
Getting the same upside down image as Scott.
Hmmm – all images are right side up for me, first on a tablet running Safari and now on my office computer using Chrome. Wonder if its a browser thing?
Lead image upside down on my iPad using safari. All others fine.
+1 iPad/Safari
My Safari is on a Samsung Galaxy. Every once in awhile, my non-Apple status works out well. 🙂
Interesting! I found a replica AH at a car show I went to last year. I thought it was real until I saw the interior and registration details; I hadn’t realised until then that anyone would make AH replicas. One of the local doctors here has a 3000, or I assumed it was, I’ll have to check it now too! FWIW, I’d probably go with a replica, providing it was we’ll done, as I’d want a/c and ABS etc.
Got one here in Auck!! Am starting build soon. Powered by 302cid Ford, 4sp manual. A sebring Healey fiberglass kit.
Peter: I read your note that you are building a AH kit car. I built one of the original kits in 1989 with a 302 ford. I put a borg ward 5speed in and I like the 5th gear for cruising. I hit a deer 4 years ago and banged up my left front fender. I had it repainted but as you know fiberglass will continue to splinter. So I am thinking about putting a new front section on my replica. I would appreciate the name., phone # and address of where I can get a replacement front section. Since you are building one you could give me the info as to where you got the kit. Thanks Virgil
I saw this thread and am daydreaming of buying an unfinished kit. A year on, how did your project go?
Richard
Peter, I have a 1962 Classic Roadster Saxon and need replacement parts for interior. Where did you find the company? Tom
Hi Peter am building a Healey Mx also in Auckland would like to make contact with you
The lead photo’s upside-down too – or perhaps it’s downunder here in NZ? 😉
Yeah nar its right way up in the Bay, Ive never seen a Healey replica at least I dont think I have though Ive seen a couple with flared wheelarches and V8 motors so ya never know, cant see the point the C series Austin motors were bullet proof the electrics are not problematic, those that have trouble with them shouldc seek better mechanics.
I also am in the process of assembling Austin Healy 3000 kit car that was started in the late eighties I think. It has a 289 Ford engine and running gear.
I need a few parts , like a Crome grille and vent window frames. I too would like the address of that Canadian company that may exist. Can anyone help?
There was a similar concept in Sweden, called the Hult Healey. Began by people in sports car racing that didn’t want to risk their precious cars. The Hult Healey was based on Volvo parts, 140-series. I think the bodies was GRP, though the inner structure was built up in metal from original Healey specs, though wider to fit the Volvo parts. Some 35 cars were made.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hult_Healey
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6apVtETPVAo/TJiB3kGLKhI/AAAAAAAAAV0/4Ql-E4euDcI/s1600/P1040903.JPG
http://worldcarslist.com/images/hult/hult-healey-special/hult-healey-special-05.jpg
Nice find, Doug.
I can see the attraction of building a kit car. DIY used to be very popular, based on the size of industry that it supported. Not just automotive, but electronics and other areas too.
I’ve (hopefully) fixed the rotated first image…
VW-based kit cars were very common when I was young (late ’60s – mid-’70s). As kids, we thought they were pretty cool.
Fixed at my end.
Having seen what total rust buckets cheap Healeys were in the early 80s, even allowing for the lower costs of bodywork then, a plastic Big Healey was a good value proposition. Power it with a Rover aluminum V8 and you get an even better deal because you get rid of the Healey’s ridiculously heavy engine and get much better handling.
Austin C series with gearbox attached weighs in excess of 7cwt yep heavy. Bent the engine lifting beam in my shed doing a swap on a 55 Westmonster one time.
Nice find! I’ve seen one of these in a tiny Alberta mountain town. Same red colour but its wires were missing from the rims so they looked somewhat disc like. One of these would be real nice with a modern BMW or Toyota straight six.
The interior is, of course, where most replicas fall short. Odd since the driver spends the most time looking at the dashboard.
Put me in the camp that would like the replica more than the original. And that goes for the 427 Cobra too. Both are rare and valuable but the 427 Cobra is ridiculously so. Its good for stashing a half mile underground in a climate controlled storage bin and that’s about it. A ‘real’ Healey would be more streetable, but they do have that rep for needing as much tinkering as driving.
I like the flared fenders on these, anyway. With the Torq Thrusts, that black/tan one is just about right. Biggest decision would be what to put under the hood: A Mopar 340? Maybe a Rover V-8? A worked up Jeep 4.0? Maybe a Hyper-Pak slant 6. Maybe pluck the guts out of a wrecked SRT-4 and make it work on a rwd setup….
You want something lighter, like a BMW six, otherwise I would say an all-alloy V6 of your choice with a custom exhaust.
Spent a lot of time reading about kit cars when I was younger and had more skills. Thought that anything that would bolt on a beetle was good but the kit would probably have a shorter life (body) than the vw. With the sebrings I think it’s the other way around. I’ll pretty much echo what moparrocker says and take the kit if it is done well.
I think my favorite wish was the Beck porsche. A stock 1600 was probably hotter and more reliable than the original.
I like it! The featured car brings to mind a big Healey as it might have looked around 1970, after serving as a daily driver, then being raced, customized a bit, raced, V8 swapped, raced, and raced some more. It’s showing its age, lookin’ a little scruffy, but still ready to be motored over to the next local gymkana for… It does need some different wheels though. Some appropriately dull torque-thrusts or minilites would look a lot better than the basket wires.
Unlike a lot of kit or replica cars, the Sebring actually looks like what it’s supposed to be. You could easily mistake it for an original Healey on the road. I’ve seen a bunch of kit cars that are supposed to look like a late ’30s Mercedes 540- most of ’em look more like the offspring of an MGTD and a bass boat.
Thumbs down on cheap kit cars! I have a ’65 AH BJ8 so I am biased. The only replicas I like (not kits mind you) are those made in the UK of vintage Jaguars, Aston Martin, Ferrari…etc. These replicas are hand built bespoke made for clients with lots of $$$ to spend. Unfortunately that rules me out.
Just bought a replica Classic AH 3000 MX – LOVE it. Drove MG’s & AH’s in the sixties. Fun cars, BUT tough to maintain properly. My Sebring with Ford 302-360hp, Tremac 5-speed, Wildwood disc’s, & tuned coil suspension is awesome. Turns heads, and is super reliable. Now if anyone out there knows where to buy the bows for my ragtop I’d love to hear from them. Whichever you prefer – have fun out there in these classics OR replicas!
I Got a Set of bows I need the Tanneau cover want to find a 100-4 windshield Frame and glass I have the Saxon Model
Hult Healey have bows for this
hey is this real
I Have the
Build books for a Saxon Model
any one know how u can tell the year of kit Healeys and style.; is it a 3000 a100-4, 100-6 etc. also where do u find parts? I ve contacted many shops on line but they tell me the kit won t match the real Healey s. having a hard time tks anyone
does anyone know where to find a replacement bumper for the Classic Roadster Sebring MX?
I believe they are rear bumpers from a MG TD and can be purchased at Moss Motors.
I have a front bumper I removed from My Saxon and think it is the same. its available I believe these are from the VW bug
Classic roadsters moved to Saskatchewan , think Saskatoon. Try them. I also own an MX. 27 miles on it. Pulled the 330 hp small block out. Looking to bolt in a 4.8 LS. It was wild with 330 hp. I can imagine about 450 hp. She will really rock
Did you ever put in the LS engine? Would love to know if there were problems doing it. Thanks
I have Saxon front and rear bumpers – in good condition – and a tan top in very good condition.
Do you still have your tan top and bumpers? toms356a@yahoo.com
I Have the
Build books for a Saxon Model
and the Tan top with the factory Bows
My Saxon.
hello Ed Keyt, what are those wheels on your handsome Saxon ? I cannot find them on the web.
thanks
frank
I recently purchased a Saxon model 1963 AH 3000, need to find suspension and engine (2.8 L ford v6) parts, anyone know where to go or have a manual? I’d gladly pay to have manual scanned to get a copy.
Healey kit car form
http://healeyreplicas.forumakers.com/
I found a great upholstery shop in Buford ga to make my new top for my classic roadster searing 5000 Lamar Stephens Custom Upholstery & Tops 770 945 4395
I love how some of my CC posts continue to accumulate comments long after they have been published.
Now this one has turned into the unofficial Healey kit car forum 🙂 🙂 🙂
If you’re looking for parts, Herman posted the address of the actual Healey kit car forum. Now go, find your parts, and enjoy your cars 😛
Yeesh! You’d never mistake that Healey replica for a real 3000. Just horrid. Most people wouldn’t know what a AH 3000 is to begin with, and some might even mistake it for a Cobra (replica). Speaking of which, most people anymore probably don’t even know what a Cobra is (or was), whether replica or not. I know a guy who is the original owner from new of an honest-to-God ’67 427 Cobra, and whenever he drives it the reaction he always gets is something like “nice kit car buddy!”
As replicas go, these are pretty good. Especially since the replica is faster than the original. Not like a VW based Porsche 917! I even saw a VW powered Jaguar XK120 replica. What a travesty. I really enjoyed my Datsun 280Z and 240Zs. I’ve got a Mustang convertible now, but I might like to try something smaller and closer to a classic English sports car.
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Does anyone know where to get MX parts? I have had one since 1990.
Looks great, powered by a small block 427 with a Magnason.
Need ft end fiberglass parts.
302 Ford/C4… rust free and passes everything but the gas station. hahahaha
On a quiet night you can hear a “real one” rusting. I know, I owned three real ones (even a 1956 LeMans).
Nice cars but I am too secure a person to worry about being told my car isn’t real.
Not “real” just better.
If possible — Please respond. Retired military///Would like to BUY replica. Thanks. briankilgariff@yahoo.com
I’m thinking of buying what appears to be this same version. It’s a 302 Ford engine. Do you know if they all had pretty much the same specs for that engine? If so do you have any idea what the horsepower is? The seller for the one that I’m looking at doesn’t know.
I purchased a Classic Roadsters Austin Healy Seabring kit recently that has never been built. I have 99% of the parts but no manual. Does anyone know where I can download the manual or Dora’s anyone have one they would be willing to share . Thanks so much for your help
Do you want to sell it?