(first published 4/10/2012) Although at least two new cars were for sale at the time, 1995 was a lousy year for Nissan. What once was a company that produced (relatively) confident, robust cars introduced a new, minimized Maxima and this, a Japanese take on name debasement: the 200SX.
The previous 200SX, a name discontinued after 1988 in America, was a rear-drive, 2-door car of a certain size. It was not overly powerful, but it carried a certain air of competence due to its rear-drive architecture and Nissan’s general reputation of being somewhat more of a driver’s car than a comparable Honda, or especially Toyota.
The basic formula for this car went on to morph into what was called the 240SX starting in 1989, and it was sold here for many years until it was consumed by the great Coupe Crisis of the late 1990s. The 1989-1998 240SX has starred in stories you’ll remember such as “Wow That Stereo Is Loud” and “Why Do That Car’s Tires Slide All Over The Place?” In all cases, however, the 200SX and later 240SX rear-drive cars had been comfortable, competent 2-door sporty cars that enjoyed a certain gravitas which front-drive compacts could not quite match.
With the 200SX name in hibernation after 1988, it was left to the Sentra name to carry the sporty, slightly masculine flame for bargain hunters. While the 1990 Sentra was awfully staid in appearance, it at least wasn’t especially juvenile looking. Pared down to 2 doors and equipped with a very competitive 2.0 liter, 140-hp engine, the 1991-94 Sentra SE-R won hearts and minds with the automotive press and buying public alike. It was an inexpensive (not “cheap”) sporty car with clean lines, good quality, and plenty of power that a man could buy, drive and be proud of. The car is still revered by many to this day, and it was frequently referred to affectionately as a “poor-man’s BMW,” with at least one automotive writer conversely calling the concurrent BMW 318 the “rich man’s SE-R.”
The wheels of change never stop turning, however, and for reasons I’ve never been quite able to comprehend, Nissan rather abruptly began to squander its image as the Japanese make with a bit of a sporting edge. Though it is somewhat forgotten today, the automotive press was borderline apoplectic about the rear suspension of the 1995 Maxima, having gone from a truly independent setup to more of a cart axle, similar to what you might find under a K-car. While they couldn’t really prove it affected the overall handling of the new Maxima much, they viewed it as some kind of Big Sign that Nissan had changed in some unforeseen, fundamental fashion. Their suspicions, for the most part, would be confirmed.
If the 1995 Maxima was a lazier iteration of that line, then the 1995 Sentra was virtually comatose. Gone were the crisp, clean lines, replaced by a tall, narrow appearance, an inexplicably high tail, cheap hubcaps, and the tiniest exhaust pipe in the free world. It too lost its sexy independent rear suspension and gained a cheapo torsion beam rear axle, perhaps a more forgivable offense on a Sentra than on a Maxima, but the new car was so dull no one cared.
Nissan for some reason chose not to call the 2-door variant of the new Sentra a Sentra, instead bringing back the 200SX name in base, SE, and SE-R versions, the SE-R again getting the hot 140-hp engine. The 2-door body greatly helped the first-glance appearance of this basic car, but it had lost that almost indefinable appeal that the previous Sentra SE-R enjoyed. Put bluntly, the new 200SX looked like a chick car, and that wasn’t the worst of it.
Grille or no grille, the new car was bland. The old car was bland, too, but bland as in “nondescript.” The new car was bland as in “Avis.” ($14.95 a day in Orlando with our Dumpy Disney Family Pack!)
The SE and base versions featured a 1.6 liter, 115 horsepower engine. I can attest to the fact that this engine was quite durable (excepting the horrid front main seal design) due to my sister owning one. She battered through all 4 years of college in her 1996 version, but powerful it wasn’t. It had a droning, despondent character, and while it would rev to the 6000 rpm needed to attain all 115 horses, you’d never know when you hit that pinnacle of power because the car was too cheap to have a tach, even with a manual transmission.
While the requisite sporty spoiler, alloy wheels, and slightly engorged tailpipe beef up the visual pizazz, the buying public somehow saw through the facade. Even the vaunted SE-R name and better 140-horse engine could not bring the love back to the Sentra/200SX name as it had in past years. It is entirely believable that a person might choose a stripper Eclipse over a well-equipped 200SX based on looks alone.
These years with Nissan have a familiar feel. As time wears on, I tend to think Nissan’s apparent complacency during this period has an almost American, Deadly Sin sort of feel to it, in fact.
They debased the 200SX name rather casually with our featured car and generally rested on their laurels while cheapening their cars in noticeable ways. I dare say they would have done better to keep building the previous Maxima and Sentra rather than bring out the cheaper 1995 versions, at least in the sense of the buying public’s mental image of the company.
It would be many years before Nissan regained most of its mojo lost due to these cars. Let’s hope Nissan (and most other companies, for that matter) learned something from them.
I had one of these for about 5 months in college after I spun my Cherokee into a wall on I75. It was so sporty-feeling after the Jeep (but perhaps not SO sporty compared to the 93 Impreza that replaced it), and the only one of my cars to have a sunroof. It was also, as mentioned, a massive chick car, especially in the pea green mine was in, and the fact that before and after I drove it, it was my sister’s car. She promptly destroyed it in a series of accidents, bumps, and bruises from which it would never recover. I am actually amazed that while it was my car, it was in decent condition, having already suffered many moons’ worth of abuse at the hands of a girl who amounted to an automotive dominatrix of sorts. I did hear she was unable to kill her 98 Accord coupe, so perhaps she softened up a bit…
My sister and brother in law had a 4 door Sentra like the one above. It must have had an appearance package (GXE) ?? It had the wheels like the 200SX.
My mom passed away in 2000 and we were in Florida, Mom wanted to be buried in North Carolina. Sister, brother in law, niece and myself piled into that horrible piece of crap and drove 800 miles to her funeral. I had a pickup truck, that would not hold us all. I begged them “let’s rent a car, crown vic or something”. But no, they were too cheap.
That Sentra’s suspension must have bottomed out 100 times on that trip. What a horrible penalty box. I remember it rained almost the whole trip and we all took turns driving. As best I remember no one was speaking to each other by the time we reached our destination. Big mistake taking that car.
In the late 00s, my family rented a Nissan Quest minivan for a similar trip for six people. Its suspension bottomed out a lot too. It really made me miss my 94 E150 Club Wagon that never, ever bottomed its suspension, no matter how much we loaded it.
I could help you bottom any suspension if you think it’s not possible.
Certainly a reason why the B13 SE-R is called the “Classic” and the B14 SE-R is just a B14 🙂
Fully agree…..everything good about the B13 SE-R made it to the B14 SE-R except the outside design (except the 1998 SE-R which dropped the LSD for some reason). The 1997-1998 Sentra SE was SR20 powered w/ a LSD. Why the coupe lost it, I don’t know. The B15 00-01 Sentra SE (w/ the power pack — only way to get the LSD) was a fine little car too…but certainly lost some of the fun from the B13 SE-R. Same mechanicals…just no more soul
You sum up my feelings precisely on these cars. The prior Sentra was a car I could have considered owning, had I been in the market for something in that segment. When the new one came out, not a chance.
Every so often, CC features a car that there is just no reason for me to own. This is such a car.
Yes, one of Nissan’s “Deadly Sins” that led to Renault’s take over.
Another cheapening was the 1998 Altima. Took a nice compact and made it look like an armadillo. After Carlos Ghon took over, he moved up intro of the 2002 true mid size Altima.
It seems like 1995 to 1998 or so was a bad time for Japanese car introductions (at least in North America). The ’95 Maxima was criticized for its downgraded suspension (even though it was still a very good car overall), the ’97 Camry and ’98 Altima were cheapened, the ’97 LX450, QX4, and Q45 were obvious badge jobs, and the ’98 626 and Corolla were facelifts passed off as redesigns – but instead of improving on their “predecessors” (pre-facelift counterparts), they took away their redeeming qualities.
The 240SX, 300ZX, RX-7, and Supra vanished from North America around that time.
Granted, this trend was representative of what was going on in the Japanese economy at the time.
OTOH, at least Lexus brought out the excellent ’98 GS, and Acura allowed the Integra to soldier on.
My thoughts exactly — Nissan, Mazda and Toyota (in part) began to lose their way during that time. I remember renting a ’98 Altima and being just appalled by the ride, handling and interior quality.
On the other hand, Honda and Subaru were on a roll. The 1998 Accord corrected the mistakes of the awkwardly styled and tight interiors of the 1994-97 Accord. The Civic went through a modest, but generally well-designed change in 1996. The CRV was introduced and established Honda cred in the small SUV world. As for Subaru, both the Legacy and Impreza models were substantially updated and upgraded during the mid-late 90’s. Indeed, this was when Subaru began to break out of being just a niche vehicle marque for outdoorsy types and competing with the mainstream. (They even got into the SUV game with the Forester.)
So, yes, it was challenging for some of the Japanese, but not so bad for others. (Mitsubishi, however, just kept pushing mediocre cars to people with bad credit.)
Yes, Honda and Subaru were doing quite well.
Hell even the Maxima was cheapened out in that era. I took an extended test-drive of a Maxima GXE of similar vintage, and the interior was incredibly cheap. The seats were covered in an absolutely nasty, abrasive, cheap carpet-like material. Even my 1990 Maxima was much better inside. The trunk were unfinished with stamped metals everywhere, and no attempt was made to cover the goose-neck hinges in any way. These supposedly top of the line Nissans would look cheap compared to “cheap” cars today, I’m sure.
I also tried the 200SX (non-SE-R, because the dealer did not have one), and it was very noisy inside. Looks like sound deadening is among the things cut by the accountants. Very cheap feeling even for an economy car. I think those times were the malaise era for Nissan.
The funny thing is how the 1991-1994 Sentra continued to be built in Mexico until last year.
Yes, it was called the Tsuru…
Made from 1999-2004, shown in this pic.
These cars are great… I had a 1994 Nissan Sentra Limited Editon, with 253,000 miles when I bought… and other than, the non-working power windows in the front doors(probably, some relays), that car ran MINT.
I sold it on Craigslist… and it sold in only 8 hours, the fastest car I’ve ever sold. lol
Rubbish little cars but with chain driven cams are considered good value for those too cheap to replace belts every 100k kms
Since saying that Ive bought two for flipping purposes both had well over 300,000kms racked up both ran just fine and drove ok for what they were both manuals both had tachos, the ex JDM wagon had all the creature features and most of them still worked the Kiwi new 97 had pwr windows and that was about it both were disgustingly easy to sell the Sentras have a good rep here.
This generation of Sentra was such a cheap, nasty little car. Of course, every generation of Sentra prior to it, at least compared to the Civic and Corolla, was pretty cheap and nasty, but they didn’t look the part quite as much as this stubby piece of crap did. These cars were pretty dreadful when they were new, but I drove a ’96-ish about 2 years ago and it was pretty unbearable; A ’96 Civic still passes as a modern, drivable car…this grindbox with it’s dinky little wheels did not.
The 200SX came and went with little fanfare. It looked better than the sedan with its pathetic little taillights, but it was otherwise unremarkable. No wonder the concurrent Civic was/is still so common…it basically had the market to itself. It’s amazing how Honda could do the compact coupe market thing so right for so long (they finally managed to royally screw up the new one), while nobody else could figure it out.
The 2000 Sentra was a major improvement and I nearly bought one. But they seem to have aged pretty poorly, so I’m glad I didn’t. The current 2007+ model, while it may be perfectly competent for all I know, has done a fine job of being completely unmemorable and irrelevant. Do they still make an SE-R? The car’s such a mediocre snooze I don’t even care enough to look up the answer.
It’s funny how most of the big Japanese manufacturers had different cars in different markets (and usually all of them in the JDM in one form or another). We didn’t see any Sentras here, we had Pulsars which are a little bit different. I recognise those alloy wheels from the Pulsar SSS. The later Sentra looks more like a Bluebird but is probably a little smaller.
We had the 1980’s 200SX aka S12 Silvia, called the Gazelle here, then skipped to the 1995 S14 200SX with a 200hp SR20DET, which ran until the S15 model was killed in 2002.
This thing was also badged Presea in 2door JDM form.
Nope, sorry Bryce, the B14 two door was badge Lucino, the Presea (R10 and R11) were a 4-door pillarless, with the R10 based on the N14/B13 and the R11 based on the N15/B14.
Styles is right — the Presea was a four-door pillared hardtop based on the Primera.
Yeah youre right wrong badge name there are so many that these things wear
In Japan this model was also available as an Autech version with 175hp on tap, and made it quite a mover (http://www.autech.co.jp/HISTORY-SV/B14S02/index.htm). Last year a New Zealander set a new land speed record in class using a B13 NX Coupe (liftback version of the Sentra), http://www.classiccar.co.nz/news-7900/kiwi-team-breaks-land-speed-record-at-bonneville
My crazy old lady neighbor drives one that looks exactly like this. Same color and trim. She’s known around town as “The Dragon Lady”. I was her server a few times at a local restaurant, and I’ve got so many hilarious stories about how absolutely bonkers she is!
I always thought her car was fitting. She’s always telling stories about her past that are so obviously not true. This car is really trying to be something that it’s not.
However, Nissan had started getting their groove back by the time my 2001 Maxima came out. It’s really an awesome car. Auto mags could once again call it the “poor man’s BMW” without hesitation.
And now look at them. The Altima was the second best selling car in the US last year, topped only by the obvious winner, Camry. And that’s with a final model year before a new generation, with lots of stiff competition. I’d say they’re back.
Always hated that shape Sentra – our Sentra/Pulsar of the period was a sedan or a 5 door liftback, we didn’t get that hideous coupe new, although plenty haved arrived here secondhand ex-Japan, badged as a Pulsar Lucino. Mind you, our 5-door was particularly awful looking. The 2.0L SR20DE engined Sentra/Pulsar models were badged ‘SSS’, a reference of course to Datsun/Nissan heritage.
The ‘proper’ 200SX (aka Silvia) continued to be available new here (and Australia) through its S14 platform’s life – this was the model known as the 240SX in the States due to having the 2.4L KA24DE engine, whereas our 200SX continued with the 2.0L SR20DE and SR20DET.
Although I believe the S14 240SX ended production in the States in 1998, it was replaced in Japan by the S15 Silvia/200SX, and was available new here and in Australia until Nissan ended production in late 2002. A far more fitting end to the badge than dumping it on a hideous Sentra! As was said in the Highlander movie: “It’s better to burn out than to fade away…”.
Re the ’89-’02 200SX, the “Wow That Stereo Is Loud” and “Why Do That Car’s Tires Slide All Over The Place?” stories are also well known down here! We have other interesting stories including “Gosh, That’s An Impressive Amount Of Engine For A Small Coupe” and “Son, Why Does My Skyline GTR Now Have Your Silvia’s 4-cylinder Engine In It?”. Our stories arose because the S13/14/15 200SX platforms are actually shortened R32/33/34 Nissan Skyline platforms, so all Skyline running gear bolts right in, a feat displayed to varying degress of success by many backwards-cap kids here!
Fun fact: the New Zealand Police used S14 and S15 200SX turbos as unmarked traffic pursuit cars.
Just a couple of points there Skyliner, the 200SX S14 was only SR20DET in NZ, we didn’t get the non turbo, all of those have come in as import Silvias. The police did have 200SX’s, but only S14, no S15’s.
Yeah, wikipedia said we only got the turbo S14, but I was too lazy to dig out my S14 brochures to check. I thought the police did have an S15 or three here in the mighty Waikato, but happy to be mistaken on that count – they had good taste anyway lol. I can’t quite see the number plate on your Celica/Supra picture, but I’m assuming you’re a Kiwi too? If so welcome, our numbers here on CC are growing!
Not sure on the various models but there seem to be few at Hampton downs when I go past on play days, Cant quite see enough of the track from the road or I’d park there for my breaks and watch.
(In reply to NZ Skyliner): Cheers, yeah, evidently one of the high-ups in the police bought an S14 and thought it was the bizzo so got a bunch for the unmarked traffic guys. They had some A32 Maximas too. I am a kiwi too, I’ve noticed a few more kiwis coming along, I’ve lurked here for ages, pretty much from the start (via TTAC), but don’t chime in much unless it’s something I know a lot about, Nissan being one of the few that I do.
I had a S12 200SX, hatchback and in the same blue color as the one pictured up top. It was a fantastic car and I wish I had never gotten rid of it. Base model, so the motor was the fairly wimpy and wheezy CA20 fuel injected single cam, but the chassis was a blast even with limited power. I don’t understand how Nissan didn’t sell enormous amounts of these… it was a very sharp looking car, a load of fun to drive, it was put together well, had an extremely nice (and soooo 1980s) interior and was priced well below all the other Japanese sports cars. My only legitimate complaint (and this goes for every Nissan I’ve ever driven) was the manual transmission shifter was very rubbery feeling and loose with long throws.
Here’s a bullshit term that gets thrown around plenty: driver’s car – this car was one of them. It’s the only car I owned where the radio didn’t work and I didn’t care.
Enter the B14 Sentra based 200SX…
“Name debasement” is right on the money. Deadly sin? I’d say so. Is there any car that true car guys love to hate more than these? To me, they are the most girly of girly cars short of the recently featured Mary Kay Cadillacs (which are really more womanly than girly, anyway). The fact that the SE-R model may actually be a decent performer in it’s own right is irrelevant – this 200SX has the soul of a Barbie Corvette. It is a machine to take shopping at Delia’s in the local mall, not a machine to waste 4 hours and $30 of gas blasting down your favorite back roads just for the hell of it.
This is an excellent article – I had never thought about it before, but Nissan really did lose the plot for awhile there. Mr. Tactful’s observation about the automotive press throwing a fit over the Maxima’s suspension regression is dead on as well, and I’d like to point out that a similar thing also happened when Honda went from double-wishbones back to MacPherson struts on the 7th generation Civic… and it played out much the same. There’s currently nothing I’d want to buy from Honda, where 10-12 years ago I was completely enamored with them. Nissan came back from the brink, I hope Honda can as well.
I have owned the four door version of this car for the last 11 years – I wanted the B13 initially, but I got a good deal on the newer version (an ex-company car) and ran with it. It has served me well and has kept going despite some issues with the CV joints and everything else. It hasn’t started since February this year and I don’t know whether I should get it repaired or scrap it.
Worst iteration of the 200SX nameplate, ever.
The 200SX is usually synonymous with the RWD Silvia… This piece of Fwd crap is nothing but a Sentra coupe, nothing more.
Now, THIS is a real 200SX… 😉
My 1987 Nissan 200SX XE notchback
that is a nice car and I expected to see some discussion of it when I clicked on this article.
91-93 240SX SE S13 fastback 5 speed
I had the pleasure of driving a 92 240SX coupe 5 speed in the year 1991. Lets just say I still remember every detail of that car. It was owned by my buddy’s fiancee.
I still cannot understand why these cars, and the concurrent Maxima, get such a bad rap. By every objective measure, these cars matched or exceeded the performance of their predecessors, and were more than competitive. The 200SX SE-R was something of a hot rod next to a lot of similarly priced coupes with a big engine, big tires and a limited slip, and it’s not as if it gave poor subjective impressions; it had fine ergonomics and feedback. Styling is certainly a subjective matter, but I’ve never found these cars to be ugly.
Yes, it sucks that the S-chassis Nissans never got the engines they deserved in the US, but I think Nissan probably couldn’t make a business case at the time. Nissan’s image lagged behind that of Toyota and Honda in the US and they weren’t alone.
If you read magazine reviews from the period, you see competition from Honda and Toyota placing ahead of the likes of Nissan, Mazda, VW… There are some good reasons for this, but in terms of driver satisfaction, I don’t think there was always a strong basis (and in Nissan’s case, quality was on par before the Renault merger). I generally trust automotive journalists, but I maintain a healthy degree of skepticism; they’re not immune from bias or a compulsion to follow certain trends.
It’s the Nissans which came after the mid ’90s which were cheapened where it really mattered, in terms of quality and full development. These cars were merely conservative and, if equipped properly, quite fun.
The 200SX SE-R was something of a hot rod next to a lot of similarly priced coupes
I don’t think I can agree. I distinctly remember a Motor Trend comparison between this car and a Neon sport coupe when they were new. Both had near identical acceleration figures, but the Neon handled significantly better, both on the skidpad and the slalom, and was thousands less. These SE-Rs were not cheap, being priced more in line with cars like the Integra, and that certainly did it no favors.
I looked at that test just recently (it’s still up online). I can definitely agree that the Neon had an excellent chassis, but it was a unique bargain which came with significant shortcomings with regard to refinement and quality. I think pricing a 200SX SE-R in line with an Integra RS or LS made sense, actually, even if it wasn’t as pretty. If we had a well preserved 200 SX SE-R in a bright color to use as an example against an equally nice Integra LS, we’d see that each of the two cars were rewarding options in their own way, with the Integra offering better style and some plusher fittings and the Nissan countering with stiffer suspension settings, bigger aluminum wheels, more torque and that LSD I mentioned earlier.
This car may be an example of cynical marketing, and maybe not the sexiest 2-door sedan, but it’s not in itself a bad car. It has many of the same qualities as its predecessor, only it understeers a bit more (because of the longer wheelbase, constant geometry of the rear axle and softer rear suspension settings–so slap on a bigger sway bar!)
The most I’ll accept is that the four-door version of this car, the Sentra SE, which was offered from ’98-’01, is a better expression of its virtues.
With regards to the 200SX SE-R specifically, I think a lot of the “meh” surrounding it is how much of a departure it was from its predecessor. Not on paper, but in terms of style and concept. The B13 SE-R was a total sleeper, based on an utterly average, pragmatic car. It came out of nowhere and had an effortless “cool” to it. Mechanically they may be similar, but none of those same qualities came through in the B14… and trying to leverage the 200SX name was just cheesy.
I never realized that the Sentra SE was basically a 4-door SE-R. I don’t think those are great looking either, but that’s definitely a lot more appealing to me.
+1, Perry. I don’t know much about the Sentras of this era except that they seemed to sell well and last an awfully long time on the roads here in SoCal. However, I had a fourth generation Maxima (99 GLE) and it was one of the best cars I ever owned (still miss it). The 95-99 Maximas had a superb power to weight ratio, the smoothest (3.0) version of the VQ engine ever, and a four speed automatic that precision-shifted like a Hobart slicer. Much was made of the cheapening of the suspension with the multi-link set-up in the rear but I still found it a fine handling (34.8 ft turning circle) and riding car overall. Many of these fourth generation Maximas remain on the road throughout SoCal today. They don’t have the most attractive styling and have a couple of weak points (oxygen sensors and coil packs) but overall the drivetrain is bullet proof and space utilization is great for such a svelte sedan. Nissan was doing something right at the time.
I’ll second the Maxima, personally I think all around the 95-99s were the best ones ever made.
I agree, and despite the Mulitibeam suspension these Maximas received lots of praise from the press. Even winning M/T car of the year, I too see lots of them running the streets of S.Cal with a good portion in pretty good shape!
Any praise heaped on this penalty box of a car must require copious amounts of alcohol and uncontrolled substances to be consumed before commenting.
Wow, that thing really is a jelly bean. And the worst kind, a black one. But look in the background. A silver HHR. A car with some degree of style. And of course GM dropped it.
Nice to hear someone sing the praises of RWD. FWD may work for transportation, but it does not work for a “drivers” car.
You keep saying that and your still wrong FWD done properly makes a great drivers car.
My mom’s first brand new car was an early-’80s (1980 I believe) Datsun 200SX notchback. It was one of her favorite cars she’s owned.
While I agree using the 200SX name on this car was a poor choice, I don’t find the car itself that bad considering its competitors at the time. Just your average econobox coupe with the swoopy styling then in vogue.
My favorite part of owning my two 82 Datsun 200SXs and my 87 Maxima SE, was the famous “talking lady”, with her
catchphrases… “Key is in the ignition” and “Door is Ajar”.
All this new technology in 2015… and we can’t have talking warning alerts. Unreal.
You could have fooled me that a 1996 200SX even existed. This is the definition of “generic Asian car”. If you can’t see the badges, you have no clue what it is.
Truly a let down from the angular RWD version of the 1980’s. Even in my import adverse part of the world, the 200SEX, err, SX, was a popular car with young people looking for, err, sex.
Granted the coupe segment was dying quickly in the 1990’s, but the early 200SX was never intended to haul baby seats (commonly cited as a reason for the death of coupes), just create situations where they were needed. I doubt that anybody got much action driving this car behind the wheel or anywhere else! Nissan set out to kill this car and did so quite effectively. Come to think of it, they killed darn near their entire line and really struggled for several years.
Wife drove a 1996 200SX SE-R and loved it, looked down her nose at 200SX’s with more than five wheel spokes. The only downcheck i could think of was when, shortly after purchase, I read of the Nissan Almera GTi in the UK, basically the same car but with a hatch… and this was her first hatchless car.
I recall a few of the pre-95 owners in the local SR20DE club having trouble keeping up in the corners with our car. Wouldn’t touch an SE or, worse, a base model. I’ll concede the earlier car’s styling was better.
Never had first hand experience with these, but I will say this – These are the most common Japanese car at junkyards by far.
If someone asked me “what was the worse (lamest) car of the ’90s”? This is it.
I am glad to see that a few ppl are standing up for Nissans of the mid-late 90s here, even if we are in the minority. My sister bought one of the 1995 200 SX SE’s brand new, black 5 speed. I thought, and still think, it was a great car. Attractive styling, good fit and finish, and good interior room. The one lingering memory of a “cheap-out” on it was that it had no rear seat side armrests, just flat plastic panels. Oh well, frequent use of the back seat is better served by a sedan anyhow. Sadly, she totaled it after a couple years and has driven only Chevy sport utilities and crossovers since.
I think my ’95 Altima and a friend’s ’95 Maxima were similarly well put together, a bit better in fact. I like Nissan’s relatively early adoption of timing chains, one of the big reasons I got my Altima 9 yrs ago. Sure it has minor shortcomings compared to Toyota and Honda, like poorer rear seat room, no split folding seat and no adjustable intermittent wipers. But the engineering and execution is on par with the best of the times in my opinion. Best testament to that is how, around here, I will still see them on the roads occasionally, whereas domestic iron of the period are no more common, despite selling many times more new.
The cover pic makes this look like a Toyota Paseo.
I agree that the 93-97 Altima and 95-99 Maxima were cool cars and many still running today. Some don’t get junked til 200K +
But the 95-99 Sentra was a let down and ‘Tempo-ized’. Lost it’s edge.
Nissan had to have Renault buy in and get them going again, but this merger worked alot better for them than AMC.
This generation of Maxima, although in no way a luxury car, is one of the nicest cars I’ve ever driven. The also go like stink with the VQ engine, which will last forever. These cars are still great beater buys in these parts. When Samsung started making cars circa 1995, the Maxima was the basis of their SM5. Lovely cars, great visibility, good ride and handling, roomy interior, a real sleeper, too.
I learned to drive in one, it was a blast. My dad had accumulated well over 100k trouble free miles in his 98 the 5 or 6 years he had it and it was still a peach when he traded it in.
Today ironically he just traded in the 03 Lexus GS300 that replaced the Maxima in 2005. Had pretty much the same amount of miles the Maxima accumulated but he basically limped it into the dealership due to the latest round of problems(cats finally clogged, thanks to it’s oil consumption). Despite the meticulous care taken of it, and regularly scheduled maintenance that car just nickel and dimed itself to death. Now he’s got a brand new ’15 Mazda 6 and it sounds like he enjoys it for similar qualities the Maxima had.
In GLE form or loaded SE it was dang pretty much one!
I had heard the 140hp engine was a good one, and I thought the 2-door styling wasn’t too bad, so I stopped into a Nissan dealer in the mid 90s to take one of these for a spin. Well, all they had was a base Sentra with the smaller mill and an automatic, and it was a total dog. I complained throughout the drive to the saleswoman, who tried to reassure me by tapping on the shifter and saying, “Maybe they can open this thing up and make it faster.”
Uh, thanks, no.
IIRC, the 140hp engine is the same one that powered my beloved and responsive ’93 Infiniti G20. Excellent engine.
Yes the SE-R has the same SR20 engine as in the G20. One of NIssan’s best if not the best engine they made for some time. There is a reason that people swap the SR20 into the 240SX, probably the only case where swapping in a smaller engine is a common upgrade.
I would swap a Rover aluminum V8 into several things with larger engines.
Maybe but you are a one off case, a SR20 in a 240SX is a common thing.
I would also swap out a 302/5.0 for a 4.6 in certain cars.
I would swap that POS fwd 200sx, for another car…
Or a bicycle. Lol 🙂
Later non-U.S. Silvias (as the 240SX was known at home) used the SR20DE and SR20DET engines, so it was also not exactly a radical switch.
Of course that is why it is an easy bolt in swap and so popular. I never said it was radical just that it represents an unusual case where it is relatively common to swap in a smaller engine to improve performance. The 240SX fans like to deride the 2.4 as a “truck engine” and unworthy of trying to upgrade.
The 2.4 is the kind of engine I would prefer to improve by giving it more displacement.
1995 was hardly a bad year for Nissan. The Altima and Maxima sold like hotcakes, and the Pathfinder had such a following that many buyers didn’t want the restyled 1996 so the 95’s went like crazy off the lot. Plus Nissan paid the property taxes on leases, which made leasing a Nissan ridiculously attractive.
I had a 200SX, 1982. I loved that car for so many reasons, can’t say any thing bad about it. It was a great car and I made a lot of trips in it from Iowa to Alabama, at least 3 or4 times a year for many years. I would love to have one like today. I parked it up under a pickup truck that stopped for a green light, and I started stopping to late. Chicks loved it, so it made my guy friends want one real bad.
Back in the late 1990s the hosts of *Car Talk* occasionally posted car reviews on the show’s web site. As I recall in their review for either this car or the 240SX, I don’t remember which anymore, they called it a “generic slightly sporty Japanese car” or something to that effect.
Never had one of these, but my 2 youngest sisters had qty-4 200SX (original generation) and 240 SX’s between them..my middle sister still has her ’97 240SX bought new…..just helped her with her brake lights not coming on (connector on switch to brake pedal). Interestingly the same car had the exact opposite symptom a few years ago, the brake lights would not turn off….turns out a small plastic part on the switch plunger broke so even with the pedal all the way up, the switch turned the lights on….drained her battery.
My dear departed youngest sister was actually the first one to buy one to replace her problematic ’84 Sunbird when the engine went….she had a ’85 200 SX notchback (every one of the qty-4 that both sisters owned were notchbacks, in contrast I’ve owned nothing but hatchbacks for the last 40 years). I even bought the service manual for it, worked on bad headlight switch, also rough running due to intake air leak…..but the car was totalled due to hail damage, so she replaced it with a ’93 240SX. Middle sister had a ’95 240SX next, which was also totalled in an accident and she bought her current ’97.
My mother is stopping driving and giving her car to middle sister, working on getting her ID card and titled transferred to sister
Aww man. Very little love for the little 200sx. I’m not gonna lie, these cars never really did anything for me. But about a year ago, a co-worker of mine had one of these sitting around at his house. He received it in trade for some work he had done for a guy who had several of these cars. It was a 96 SE-R with just over 200k miles on it. I took an interest in it and my co- worker said he’d like to see it go to someone who would use the car. It needed work obviously, but a deal was struck. I paid 250 bucks for it, and have had to tend to things like rusty fuel lines and brake lines, brakes, clutch, tires, belts, and hoses but internally nothing has had to be replaced in the engine or transmission and I’ve put 10k miles on it and it runs strong!!! Good little commuter car that’s fun to drive
I have a ’96 200SX SE..,.it was a “Spare” after my kid ditched it after he graduated High School. It is currently my daily driver AKA “dog kennel on wheels”. Truth be told, I’m grateful to have a car that doesn’t eat tires or demand much attention or suck up a lot of gas. I never worry about parking it at the beach,… My how far the mighty have fallen 🤣