While I was sitting behind the wheel here, on the shoulder of Hwy. 95 about ten miles south of Goldfield, Nevada at 9:20 this morning, two highway patrol officers in their car behind me were debating my fate: will I go to jail and have the TSX towed for reckless driving, or will I just get a fat speeding ticket, for driving 60mph over the limit (70)?
It’s been a fantastic road trip. Every so often it’s highly therapeutic for me to get off into remote high-desert highways and exercise certain muscles and reinforce long-established neural connections; the ones associated with brisk driving. It had been too long.
I picked a route that looked to have a lot of what I was looking for, by heading over the Cascades from Eugene and then south on 97 into CA and eventually eastward into Nevada, via Gerlach, close to where Burning Man is held. We had a clear and sunny day leaving Eugene, and it was a splendid drive.
And once we left 97 and headed into Nevada, we were on very deserted roads, and for most of the rest of the way on day one (Monday), I had the cruise control between 90 and 110 or so. Of course there are lots ridges and curves between the long flat sections, so it’s not just continuous flats. For the next several hours, we encountered only a handful of cars. Sometimes it would be 20 minutes or more before another car was seen. This is my kind of driving country, and higher speeds keep the mind engaged and the risk of getting caught is extremely low, as these small roads are just not patrolled normally.
We spent the night in Tonopah, NV, a former mining boom town and ate supper in the Mizpah hotel, which was once the tallest building in all of Nevada. It was restored to its splendor and re-opened in 2011 after several decades closed. Of course this isn’t the first time it has been restored and re-opened.
The next morning we took Hwy 95 south to Goldfield, where we drove all over the spread-out little town that is the ultimate CC location. I took a lot of pictures and will give it its due justice when I can get to it.
Goldfield sits quit high, some 5600 ft. As soon as on heads south out of town, the arrow-straight hwy drops steadily into the much lower valley ahead. I wasn’t really thinking as I took off, but the next thing I knew, due to the down slope, I was already cresting 100. I could see the road miles ahead, and there was no one in my side, and just a few cars and trucks way off in the distance coming up the other way. I decided to take advantage of the situation and just let it roll. So we rolled down the highway at 130-135, which felt to us more like 80, given the car, the smooth road, and the perfect conditions.
But I should have known better. Unlike much of the stretch the previous day, Hwy 95 is actually a major highway, the key link between Las Vegas and the north, including the Reno area. Which means it is likely to be patrolled by police. I let my impulse and over-confidence win over rationality. I had told myself earlier to keep it down on the major highways, but didn’t follow through this time.
And sure enough, as I’m rolling down the road at 130, there comes the distinct outline of a black Explorer with a light bar. I knew instantly I was busted, and confirmed it when I saw them turn their lights on in my rear-view mirror, and pull over to turn around. I slowed down right away and pulled over, and was long stopped and well off the road before they arrived. I did not want them stressed from a high speed chase.
The driver was a young guy, and seemed intelligent and, ah…not at all hardened. He seemed downright sensitive, actually. I told him right away that I knew I was driving way too fast, and was guilty. But I also assured him that I was not a danger to myself or others, as the conditions and our car were able to support a speed like that, and that I had decades of experience driving fast, including on the autobahn in Germany. He genuinely seemed willing to listen to my spiel, but I never tried to suggest that I was anything but guilty of breaking the law.
Then his partner joined him at our passenger side window, and he was in every way the polar opposite. He was older and had a scrunched-up face that didn’t look….at all promising. He said he didn’t give a hoot that I’d driven fast in Yurrup; this was rural Nevada, and folks here don’t get away with driving like this (apparently he was ignorant of Nevada having no speed limit at all until the mid 70s or so, due to the national 55mph speed limit. And that driving fast was in Nevada was a common pastime back in the day). He said he’s never pulled over anyone going as fast as I was. He said they could arrest me for reckless driving and tow my car. He was not amused.
They went back to their car and I saw them on the radio and talking. I was a bit worried as to my fate. And it took close to half hour before that was decided.
Fortunately, the officer who was more sympathetic to my side presumably won the debate, or maybe it was up to him to decide my fate perhaps because he was in charge? In any case, he came back alone after a good 15 minutes or more and told me that he was only giving me a speeding ticket and that I should feel lucky that the charges were not more serious. I was very thankful and apologetic.
Well, it’s the most expensive ticket I’ve ever gotten, but Stephanie put it in perspective: “Paul, you always say it’s better to spend money on experiences than on stuff, and you’re going to remember this one for quite a while”. True that. And here’s the even bigger perspective: I’ve been enjoying driving fast for…as long as I’ve been driving. I first (almost) broke the century mark in a friend’s ’62 Cutlass, but the 4 barrel aluminum V8 overheated just as I was about to break that hallowed barrier. I didn’t even have my license then.
But in all these decades of driving fast (having always done so quite deliberately and conscious of my location and risks), I never once got caught driving really fast. I’ve had a sprinkling of speeding tickets over the years, but always when I had somewhat absentmindedly drifted over the limit by 15 -20 mph or so; enough to get a ticket. But never once when I was really going fast, which used to be very often in pre-radar California, as it was pretty easy to spot cop cars, and they had to follow you and time you visually back then, the good old days of good sportsmanship.
But that’s long gone, with forward facing radar that works in the opposite direction. There’s just no way to mitigate that; well, except to stick to deserted roads. My bad. I had it coming, for a long time now. But that $740 spread over 5 decades of driving comes to some $15 per year. Peanuts, for all the enjoyment I’ve derived from my dirty little habit.
As a parting word, the patrolman politely warned me to stay at legal speeds the rest of my journey through Nevada, for if I was to get busted again, I would be hauled off to the slammer. Yes sir! 80 mph (a safe 10 over the limit) suddenly felt like 40.
Fortunately, it was only another couple of hours before we left 95 and took a very deserted road to Death Valley Junction and down through the Mojave. And we have arrived at our destination in Morongo Valley, CA. And tomorrow we’re going hiking; enough of this driving stuff. Of course I tend to walk fast too.
Postscript 2023: I was expecting a big jump in my insurance rates at the next renewal after this ticket. Ironically, the rate dropped substantially, as two relatively minor speeding tickets had aged out (3 years), and this ticket in Nevada was never picked up by my insurance company.
I haven’t gotten a ticket since this one, but that’s undoubtedly because I drive the vans on road trips now, and I keep my speed way down in it. I have two modes of driving: fast and relaxed. The van is always in the second category.
The TSX is still rolling though, as Stephanie’s car. I just hardly ever drive it though, sometimes not for months. But I always appreciate its willingness to step out and its superlative handling. It’s a genuine…sportwagon.
Wow, this just went up after I commented on your post a few days ago about the trip! You of all people know I have an affinity for driving quickly in Nevada. You were on the same roads I was seven years ago. Life has mostly spiraled downwards since, but I’m rebuilding and looking forward to many more journeys ahead. Three cheers to you, good sir!
Oh hell, I’ll share my very similar post:
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/stories/how-my-dream-car-killed-my-dream-car/
Mike, I thought of you repeatedly on this trip. And it’s rather remarkable that you’re one of the first to read this and the first to comment.
I didn’t take pictures on the road except in Goldfield. Yours are great. And I can’t believe we haven’t re-run your post yet. I will put it up later this week. It’s way overdue for it.
Don’t be such a stranger. You know where I live. After I get back on the 12th, I will be batching it for over a month, so drop by for a beer and we’ll swap more road trip stories.
Actually, uh, everyone knows where you live now. Your address is up there on the ticket. It’d be a very good idea to blur that out.
Good spotting. Done; cheers
Enjoy the remainder of the trip, Paul. It sounds great.
And very discreet of you there, Don.
Disclosure: booked yesterday for 16 km/h (10 mph) over on undivided country road, fined AUD$317. At least Nevada represents value in these things.
Everybody knows where I live. I was still in the phone book until a couple of years ago. I’m not paranoid.
But thanks, Don.
Many years ago in Florida there was lots of wide open spaces circa 1970’s. Late night, rolling across Central Florida praire in a new Pinto wagon. Pulled over by FHP, haven’t a clue where the hell he came from. Informed me I was clocked at 90! Speed limit 55. He wrote ticket for 10 over. Cited reason as no other vehicles, lol ppland no one Would believe 73 Pinto can do 90!
ADDENDUM: In the short time that Chrysler and Lee Iacooca had a relationship With Lamborghini in the late 80’s early 90’s, a Chrysler dealer in Orlando Fl. Had a Countach on the lot. Orlando Sentinel News paper arranged for their Auto writer to test drive one. A very nervous sales Mgr. let the writer take it out on I-4 and wouldn’t let him take it above 65. Top speed was reported by Mfg. as being 212 mph. Writer noted that the usual 90 minute drive to Daytona from Orlando would take about 15 minutes. Also checked with Florida Highway Patrol (FHP) on what be fine would be for doing 212 in a 65 zone. FHP up front said their radar at the time (Circa 1990) Doesn’t even detect speeds that high. But based on the fine scale system they, the ticket would have been over $800 in 1990 money and you would definitely go to jail!
Well lets face it,the American police and legislature know for a fact that even the very best American driver is less competent at driving at high speed than the worst German one. Thats why there is no limit on autobahns. Strangely enough once good American drivers get on the Autobahn they become capable of high speed driving. Maybe its just something about the land of the free that makes the police and legislature believe Americans are only able to drive well in Germany?.
Oh and if you two get to Beatty, go to any restaurant and drink the water. Holy #*&$(#@*)&)(#*@&$#*@() I have never tasted water like that! It was honestly better tasting than the Sierra Nevada IPA we bought. Unreal.
I think that may be a record for a ticket in Nevada. Stay safe.
Great story. Considering the cost of actually going to Germany and renting a car to do that legally, $740 seems like a bargain to me.
I suggest you edit that photo to blur your DL number, and other vitals. No need to let that loose on the interwebs.
Good idea; just fixed that.
Paul – all that info is still showing. You might want to try again.
Your address is still showing.
Evidently you are lucky to be licensed in Oregon. In many states even one ticket for that much over the limit would get you enough points for a short suspension. In OR, for stuff other than DUI, hit and run, and the like, they suspend for repeated violations in an 18 month period. Had they hit you with reckless driving, though, that might have been different. Maybe better try to get some time at a track to do the triple digit stuff.
Amuse yourself here for the position if you’d have stayed in Austria:
https://autorevue.at/bussgeldrechner (from what I know they’d have probably thrown the book at you. There is some tolerance but once you go over 160 Km/H all bets are off).
PS: I can still see the address.
Caveat: a trip to Europe doesn’t include an increase in periodic insurance payments. Can anyone here brag about special treatment on this front, too?
Wow – that is a whopper of a ticket. I have an older TSX (04 with a manual) and it is geared so short I cannot imagine it is capable of 130mph. Edit – Googled it and top speed is apparently 133mph in both 5th and 6th gear.
I think ours is limited to 130. That’s the most I’ve ever gotten out of it, including on the drive home when I picked it up in Idaho. I took the picture below then; as you can see, it’s revving just a bit over 4000 rpm, in 5th gear, which is top gear with the automatic. In 4th gear it’s running closer to its redline (7000rpm) at 130.
I didn’t know you have a gen1 TSX. I much prefer them, as they’re not so wide as the gen2. But there was no wagon version of it in the US, otherwise I might have looked for a good used one.
I bought mine a few months ago. Its a neat purple-ish blue color and has the A-spec body kit. I’ll have to update my COAL series soon.
My ECU cuts me off at 130. You can feel it backing off when it hits the limiter. It’s an abrupt cut off. Especially on hills.
Wow, that does seem cheap, all things considered. Maybe you can write it off as well….
I’m glad to see you’re enjoying your trip, at those speeds you’ll only be gone half as long as intended 🙂
Ha Ive had a couple of tickets recently not going as fast as you Paul so they werent so expensive but here 30kmh over the limit sees your vehicle impounded 50kmh over is instant loss of licence, I was 27 over and a company car, glad I didnt have to explain away losing it.
Funny, just yesterday, I heard about a dumb kid at work getting caught doing 88 in a 70 in a marked government fleet car complete with state seals on the doors and government license plates. Taxpayers are generally not amused by such antics. $175 ticket, but we’ll probably make this a little bump in his career trajectory.
make note to self: next road trip to include Bonneville Salt Flats.
I had similar experience in southern Colorado during one of many road trips through America West in the early 1990s. I wanted to visit Royal Gorge Bridge first before stopping at my brother’s in Denver.
I took US Route 50 from Grand Junction to Pueblo via Gunnison and Canon City. As the map can reveal, it’s one of the most twisty and engaging roads through the mountains in Colorado.
I was so engrossed by the awestruck scenery and excitement of driving on the twisty road. I didn’t notice the police cruiser tailgating me with flashing lights until the road straightened out for a bit. Shocked, I slowed down and turned into the side road.
I wrote on the notepad (since I’m deaf) how profusely sorry I was for not paying attention to the speed and for not noticing him earlier. I mentioned that I was from Germany and how that route reminded me of frequent travel on Route 500 between Freiburg and Waldshut-Tiengen in the Black Forest.
The officer was quite nice fella and told me he had chased me for fifteen minutes and could understand why I didn’t stop right away. He indicated that I was the fastest he ever caught on Route 50. I apologised again and would not want to cause trouble for him.
Since I actually turned into the next side road rather than on the side of road with limited sight distance because I was very considerate of his safety, he was very lenient with me. He cited me for driving at 80 mph (twice the posted speed limit) but wrote down 56 mph (16 mph over the limit). The fine was laughably $35, which I gladly contributed to the state purse.
The funny thing was my Texas driver’s licence doubled as the ‘frequent flyer’ card (having been busted at least twenty times for speeding). When I switched to Colorado driver’s licence, I haven’t gotten any tickets ever since despite being an occasional speed demon in the United States. (Knock on the wood).
My personal speed record in the US was 220 km/h (136 mph), driving my mum’s green Mercedes-Benz 450SEL (with metric speedometer) outside Dallas a long time ago. My all-time speed record was 280 km/h (175 mph) outside Munich in Bentley Continental GT…
I once got stopped for 124 in a 65. The officer wanted to be lenient (or didn’t want to go through the trouble of booking me- at that speed in NJ I don’t think he would have a choice). It was a safe situation (empty Turnpike, 2 AM), and I had been near an exit. I could have ran him by getting off at the next exit (he was stopped and up a ramp facing me) but I didn’t.
Anyway, I got off with a stern world never to do that again.
Hehehe, good for you Paul. Gotta let it out sometimes, makes life all the more worthwhile.
Yikes that’s a helluva ticket!
One of my genius offspring got busted in Georgia last spring break going 86 in a 70…$200 for the ticket from the county, then 90 days later, another ticket from the State of Georgia for being a “Super Speeder”…another $200. Four hundred bucks for going 16-over…makes yours look like a bargain. Thankfully no points ever hit her license.
She should fight that second ticket. There is likely grounds for a double jeopardy argument there.
Be glad you were in Nevada. Doing that in Virginia would have immediately called in the tow truck, and incarceration. And in VA you’re not allowed to have a radar detector (it and DC are the only places where they’re illegal), while the county deputies are allowed 360 radar, on at all times, in any manner, from any direction.
Virginia police like their fish tightly packed in that barrel before they start shooting. And the one time a bill was introduced in the House of Delegates to get rid of the no-radar detector restriction, a county sheriff actually testified before the committee that if this bill was passed it would wreck the county budget.
The stretch of I-95 from Richmond to the NC border is a notorious speed trap. What’s worse, if your clocked at 20 over you can get hit with reckless driving, a real hassle requiring hiring a local lawyer, returning to the local courthouse, etc. Many unsuspecting students and tourists traveling through get nabbed.
Traffic enforcement should be about public safety – not ginning up the most revenue for local coffers.
Funny you should say that. Officer Snuffy of Prince William County’s Finest recently enlightened me of that tidbit having nabbed me for 80 on the PW Parkway (55 mph zone).
Mind you, it was 0730 in the morning on a Tuesday, and I was in a shirt and tie very clearly on my way to work. In a black Cadillac. With Active Duty Army tags. Did he care about any of this? No, he did not.
Fortunately when the court date arrived it was aabundantly clear that the judge knew this clown was a ticket factory, having left his dozens of citations for the end of the session and rifled through them nearly rolling his eyes. Online traffic school and court costs later the ticket was dismissed.
Thanks, dude. No, really. Just. Thanks.
Stephanie certainly put it in perspective. While this may sting for a while, it’ll prompt a smile every time after that sting wears away.
Soon after I got my ’96 Thunderbird, I opened it up one evening on a rural two-lane. It was flat and straight, just right for such a thing for a blast to 110 (or whatever it was speed limited to). The best part was flying past the kids in the Camaro. As a curve was approaching, I slowed down. As soon as it slowed to 65 mph, a Missouri State Highway Patrol car came around the curve. I was close.
Call the local district atty and see if they will let you plead it down; if you have a clean driving record you may have some ground to stand on for at least a reduced fine.
FYI, in VA, anything over 80 automatically defaults to a reckless driving charge and anything over 100 is usually extended jail time
Happy motoring!
It’s an outrage! $740!!!!!
But it is what it is. I’m glad you have a good perspective.
I was “lucky”, the first time I was pulled over, for 80 in 55 (though I had hit 102 minutes before), I was 20, with friends, driving a rented 83/84 Celica 5-speed to the NY Auto Show from PA.
After being made to get out of the vehicle and being frisked, the NJ cop warned me that if I didn’t want to be an exhibit “in the show”, I had better slow down. Then he let me go.
Just last week I got a ticket in the mail for being caught by a red light camera. I entered the intersection 1.9 seconds after the light turned red. I never even saw the flash (it was nighttime). The citation is worth $325, but I plan to beg for mercy with the prosecutor and get the fine reduced.
Never had a speeding ticket in Nevada, much of my fast driving was pre-55 days across US50. The most expensive was a badly cracked windshield when a pickup passed in the opposite direction on a newly chip-sealed section, was only going about 90 but that car was still registered in Colorado who do not have mandatory full glass coverage. I normally get by with the free chip repair.
Montana reinstated ‘safe & reasonable after the 55 was lifted (75? at night) but does now have daytime speed limits after much pressure from the feds. And one of the reasons I sold my 2nd home in Bigfork. The drive across I-90 is pretty tedious even at 85.
Fastest I’ve driven over any period of time was 144 mph (232 kph) in Germany in a friends 1982 911SC targa (yes the top was on). It is very therapeutic, as it requires total concentration.
Paul, Enjoy the desert, and thanks for the story.
The title photo made my heart start thumping in my chest. I can’t imagine. I’m so glad this turned out the way it did and not worse. And I like Stephanie’s perspective of “experiences over things”. Happy New Year, Paul.
In an odd coincidence, the last time I broke the century mark was also in northern Nevada, and also in an Acura.
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cars-of-a-lifetime/coal-1990-integra-the-unintentional-acura/
The one significant difference was that I did not get caught! 🙂
Thanks for sharing this tale Paul. Sorry you didn’t get away with it. I must say that your story was written well enough so that vicariously, I felt like I was in the car with you. I think I need to go watch “2-Lane Blacktop” again.
Vanishing Point is from the same era and is just as therapeutic
I am not sure how Nevada traffic court works. In New York City, you can come in the traffic court to plead guilty and get 30% off of the tricket. And if I recall correctly, you have a 2013 TSX wagon, but the tricket indicates your vehicle is a sedan. The judge may dismiss the tricket if you are able to articulate your case.
We have nothing remotely resembling those kinds of roads in PA. Fastest I’ve ever gone is 125. Once in a Cadillac STS that had once belonged to Hines Ward; I also hit 125 in my kid’s ’93 Taurus SHO…which felt amazingly similar to the STS, which speaks to how well that model was engineered, IMO.
One other time I hit 125-130 in one of those 2013 W-body Impalas w/the 300-hp V6. Too bad the car had that old-style GM FWD front suspension…the one I’d felt even under Cadillac DTS’s. Glad they stepped up their game.
Only been above 100 once – 110 in my 96 Deville on 322 between Thompsontown & Lewistown…the car felt secure enough, but I didn’t want to push my luck having NJ plates in PA so I backed off quickly. Thankfully I did as there was a state policeman hiding around a curve before the Narrows. PA roads don’t lend themselves to speeding – stretches of 78 late at night being the exception.
And how did you end up with Hines Ward’s STS?
Funny you mentioned that old GM steering. Driving my friend’s 06 Impala SS felt like it had the same disconnected feeling like my old 89 Century had, only with a V8 shoved in the front.
After nearly 35 years without a speeding ticket, I was clocked doing 81 in a 65 zone. In Virginia going more than 11 over the speed limit nets you a reckless driving ticket in addition to a speeding ticket. I guess my spotless CDL impressed the deputy sheriff who wrote the ticket as he dropped the reckless driving part. It still cost me nearly $200 in fines.
I’ve driven 2 cars (that I remember) over an indicated 100 mph: a 1967 Mustang that belonged to an older sister (back in 1969), and a Honda Civic with an Acura Integra engine/transmission swap.
Though I have had my P71 up to nearly 100 a few times when cars decided to play it safe and clustered around an unmarked car.
You remind me of how lucky I was in my younger years. For a long time it was my challenge to myself to hit 100 in every car I drove that could safely do so, if given the opportunity. No sweat in Dad’s 351 76 Monarch and in a rental 78 Dodge Diplomat V8. I could never find enough road to get there in Mom’s 74 Luxury LeMans with its 2 bbl 350 – I think 94 or 95 was my max in that one (which is where my six cylinder 71 Scamp topped out). My 77 New Yorker felt fabulous at 100.
My 85 VW GTI hit and held 114 for awhile and felt wonderful. As you say, it is total concentration at that speed. Fortunately the statute of limitations has run on all of my major vehicular foolishness. But then I have never been tempted by deserted western roads and a very capable car.
My first car was 1983 Caprice Classic sedan with 305 V8 with 4 speed auto transmission The speedometer maxed out at 85 mph, which was common among the US made vehicles then. So I doubt it you could 100 with those cars in that vintage.
Interesting, JP, as that’s been an unofficial ‘rite of passage’ for many of my vehicles over the years (air-cooled VWs and farm trucks excepted).
The vehicle that netted me the most tickets, including the final 6-pointer in 1985 was my ’82 Cavalier. It would just make it past the century mark, but all of the tickets were on interstates doing ~15 over or in town.
The last one (still have my copy in my files) was written for 75 in a 30, but the officer said he clocked me right at 100. It was on a rural road in SC with no traffic and clear weather. Turned out he was a car guy, which is why he reduced the ticket. It also turned out that the computer link to the GA State Patrol was down so he was unable to pull my record. Had he been able to do so, I would have spent the night at his place and had the car impounded, as that ticket put me over the points limit.
I did end up losing my license (suspended), and had to go to DUI school to get it back (I was not DUI, to be clear). *That* was an experience. I was the only college-educated person there, and got 100 on all the tests, which badly blew the curve for everyone else. I was not popular.
About a year later, my car insurance also went up to something like $4,000/year, so I parked the Cavalier (never drove it again, either). I also had to sell my barely-broken-in Suzuki Samurai and use my motorcycle for transportation (through the winter, too). It was several years before my rates dropped back to a normal level. When I wrecked the bike in 1987, I used my ’71 VW van as a daily because it was all I had left, and there was no way it would get me in trouble speed-wise!
The last ticket I got was in 1995 for an improper lane change in my old ’64 Beetle. I got lost after stopping for gas in Nashville, and did a four-lane-change maneuver trying to make it across to the exit I needed. The motorcycle cop was sitting at the top of the bridge and just waved me over with a grin on his face.
Wondering what the sustained MPG was at 130.
Google lists “up to 22/31” & an 18.5 gal. tank for a 2013 TSX.
The fastest I have ever gone was 135 mph on two lane west Texas highways in a Sentra SE-R Spec V. Fun car to drive fast, I held it at that for 10 minutes and passed maybe one vehicle, then backed off as I encountered hills. Z-rated tires, straight roads and clear weather in the 80s meant absolutely no danger. Slowing down to the posted 70 felt like I was walking..no, limping.
My worst ever ticket was for 89 back when the limit was 65. I was going faster than that – I was right up against the speed limiter, but the trooper told me he gave me some slack as any faster than 89 meant a reckless driving charge and a mandatory court appearance.
Get a decent radar detector and put the Waze app on your phone. Waze is good for foreknowledge of speed traps and miscellaneous hazards – IF the folks ahead of you are using it and posting about them before you get there.
In the mid 70s I was riding with a friend in his 72 Corvette cruising West on Hwy 208 (NJ) at about 110 mph. I happened to glance out of the rear window and noticed a fleet of cop cars chasing us in the distance, Blues Brother style. The malaise era cop cars couldn’t keep up. In the end he was issued a ticket.
My favorite ‘Caught Speeding’ story happened to me many years ago when I lived Japan; I was still in the American Air Force at that time.
It was a fall holiday weekend and I was taking a motorcycle trip to Matsumoto Castle
(https://theculturetrip.com/asia/japan/articles/the-top-10-most-beautiful-castles-in-japan/) with my girlfriend (now wife) riding pillion. It was a beautiful warm fall day, and the ride had been a real pleasure until traffic suddenly slowed to an annoying crawl – perhaps 15 mph. After a few minutes of this, I saw a gap in the cars ahead, and -grabbing a big handful of throttle- and pulled out into the opposite lane to pass. I reached 95 KPH while
passing. I know this was the speed, exactly, because the Japanese policeman who ran out into the road to pull me over told me so. Now I knew why traffic had been crawling. The speed limit was 40 KPH (24 MPH) and I had hit nearly 60 MPH. Damn.
However, the policeman was shocked when I pulled off my helmet and revealed my blond-haired, foreigner face. I was doing pretty well as the policemen didn’t speak any English, and somehow I had forgotten every single word of Japanese I had ever heard. I was doing my dumb foreigner act slowly figuring out that I had apparently done something wrong, and acting sorry for it. The cop was about to give up and let me, properly shamed, go on my way when the weather intererred. My girlfriend had left her full-face helmet on, and thus the policeman didn’t know she was Japanese. She’d opened her visor twice, and I’d casually flicked it shut …. but she got hot and finally took off her helmet… BUSTED.
Here was someone the Cop could fall to. He immediately started into something too fast for me to follow but one word kept coming up “saibansho, saibansho, saibansho”. The cop now took my American Military license and went off to call the Base using the convenient phone number on the license. I asked my girlfriend “What the Hell does ‘saibansho’ mean? She replied… “It means “Court” and he said maybe jail.” Lovely.
However… it was the Columbus Day weekend and no one was answering that phone at the base! So the cop gave it up as too much trouble and gave my girlfriend a hell of a lecture for me. I became more and more ashamed looking and eventually honor having been satisfied, they let us go.
I still feel a little bad about it sometimes, but then I start laughing.
So Paul, perhaps if you had tried some German on the policeman?
Living in Buffalo, I make the trip to Toronto on the Queen Elizabeth Way (QEW) often. Traffic gets worse every year and no one goes the speed limit and lane etiquette is non existent. About 10 years ago I dropped a friend off at Pearson airport in Toronto and was heading back to Buffalo. It was 2AM and no cars in sight. I was driving my 07 BMW Z4 coupe at about 80mph and decided to see how fast she would go. I dropped a gear to 5th and started accelerating. As the revs and speed climbed I shifted into 6th. I was at about 120 mph when I noticed a few tailights ahead. I slowed passed them and with no one in sight I got up to 140. The car was still accelerating albeit a bit slower but I have no doubt I could have gotten to 155, but my nerves got the better of me.
Nowadays there are blue and yellow signs stating that 50kph over the speed limit could result in a $10,000 fine, roadside seizure of the car and automatic license suspension….I keep it under 80 mph now.
OWCH! That easily beat$ the worst I’ve ever gotten, thanks to a Wi HP aircraft watching me “fly” up I-43 on my ’94 BMW R1100RS years ago. Fortunately I was clocked at a mere 96; altho I had been running at times 120+!!
Lack of blood sugar caused my “oop$$$” Co$t over $400.00; after Sheboygan, WI ADA reduced the bill a bit…..:( DFO
Moral: don’t let bs fall to almost zip…:(
The only speeding ticket I have received was while driving my Vega (the irony). This was during the national 55 MPH speed limit and I got stopped for going 69 on New Circle Road in Lexington, Kentucky. I was later driving that same Vega through Nevada on the way to California; I was going around 70-75 and a Nevada Highway Patrol car passed me like I was sitting still. I don’t think the trooper even glanced in my direction.
Several years ago I got to drive a friend’s Ford GT for a quick blast through the gears. Interstate 64 as it crosses southern Indiana often has very little traffic and usually has little police presence. We took the car out to the interstate and changed drivers at a rest stop. George told me not to worry about breaking anything so I charged out of the rest stop, running up to 5500 RPM before shifting to the next gear. After a very short time I looked at the speedometer and it was indicating 160 MPH; the car felt firmly planted to the road and would have gone faster but I decided it was time to roll out of the throttle. I felt safer at 160 in that car than at 60 in many others.
My first ticket was in my ’71 Vega (original 2300 engine), on the way back from our high school Senior trip to Myrtle Beach. I forget my delta over the limit, probably 10 plus a little. The Trooper was obviously camped out looking for guys just like us heading home from the beach.
As far as I can recall, I only got one other ticket in the Vega, post Buick V6 swap. I floored it coming out of my office drive onto the main road and laid rubber tracks for quite a ways, right past a city LEO sitting at a gas station next door (heavy bushes prevented me seeing him until it was too late).
I had the car past the century mark numerous times, and I regret to say it, but many times in Atlanta area traffic, weaving in and out like a jerk (I was in my early 20s, but that’s no excuse).
I remember a female Russian exchange student in the ID program at Tech rode with me to an event one afternoon, but elected to ride home with someone else. She kept repeating to everyone there, “We were driving one-hun-der-ed-miles-per-hour!” with a horrified look on her face.
Ha! Small world! Reference my comments above regarding Prince William County VA, but Lexington KY is my hometown. And my folks live in Harrison County IN. To say I know of where you speak would be quite an understatement.
Pretty jealous about the run in the Ford GT though…
I was once stopped for speeding while driving a Subaru 360! It was a friend’s car that I was goofing around in. (Needless to say it was not going 130 mph – I think I actually had the thing up to near 60 mph in a 50 mph zone.) The cop was aghast at having pulled over what appeared to be little more than a go-kart with tags on it, said he could not believe his eyes. I did not get a ticket but almost wished that I had just to frame it.
I’ve actually gone a bit faster than 135 (on 2 wheels) in that neighborhood, but not on 95 … the state highways 360 and 264 are conducive to speed and seemingly not patrolled. I will warn you Paul, when you come out to the coast, that Hwy 1 is heavily radar patrolled, and fairly stealthily, between Santa Cruz and Half Moon Bay. And you still need to keep an eye out for Crown Vic’s here, as well as Explorers.
Paul’s still got it !!
Except for the $740, which he doesn’t got anymore.
NV looks awesome, I am still disappointed I never got to Winnemucca in 2017, we did a project there for work but the Denver office guys went to site. 🙁
I suspect that most people who get nabbed for speeding near Goldfield are northbound. You come up that long, gentle hill and over a crest, and almost right away the speed-limit signs for Goldfield start. Iirc the first one is 45mph.
I generally find that driving fast in Nevada and desert Oregon isn’t a problem as long as one is careful about speed limits in or near any town. But I must say that I haven’t been going much over 95 or so, even with the new Mustang GT.
How you can keep to such slow speeds on clear dead straight roads is beyond me, we have nothing like that straight road in the UK, not even the old Roman ones
I find I have to rely on cruise control on out dual carriageways and motorways to stay within the speed limit,, its so easy to run up to 100 otherwise
Over 100mph would risk a one year driving ban here, as does drunk driving, otherwise it is a points system, over that limit and you get a ban, do you ever have driving bans for speeding in the US?
Suspended license = fixed-term driving ban. See above.
Revoked license = permanent driving ban. Never heard of one for speeding alone.
I’m pleased to report that I’ve exceeded 100 3x (in the US), but not in 20 years.
1989, Richmond VA “Beltway” (I-295? I-495?), was brand new, 4 lanes wide (each way!) lightly trafficked, marked at 55-absurd! A buddy and I were stationed at Langley AFB, going to DC for the weekend, doing about 75 in my 102 hp VW GTI. An mid/late 80s S-Class Benz, 420SEL, slowly started to pass us. at 90 mph, he gave up, but I kept accelerating (albeit slooowly) to 104 mph, yay!
Five years later, on a lonely 2 lane road in eastern NC, I hit 107 mph in my 138hp BMW 318i.
Two years after that, I did 102 in my V6 95 Ford Probe on I-696 in Michigan.
Ironically, I owned a Cobalt SS for four years, easily the quickest, faster car I have ever owned, and think my max was 90-95—on the aformentioned 401 in Ontario. Like an overeager puppy, I often thought car was going 60-65, and would then see speedo saying 80.
It took me a long time to slow down when I bought my ’86 Iroc Camaro. There is a road with a ridiculous 35 MPH speed limit on it locally that I travel on often. It’s FIVE lanes wide, and is concrete. I don’t understand the 35 limit at all. Where it’s two lanes, it’s 50, when it does back to 2 lanes the other way, it’s 40, but there is a mile plus stretch that is 35. The first time I drove down it after I got the Iroc, I looked at the speedometer, and I was going 70. That same thing happened a lot the first month or so I had it. I was going 15-20 MPH faster than I did before almost all the time. Somehow I managed to not get a ticket in that car until around 1992, when I was thinking about selling it, and I had just replaced the plugs and put a new cap, rotor and plug wires on it, when I decided to punch it, mostly just to make sure everything was working ok. So there is a long dip (Like a mile) in the road, and as I start to go down into it, I punched it and it kicked down and I was doing about 60 in a 35 zone almost instantly. All of a sudden, a police car pulls onto the road. I never saw him at all. He gave me a break and wrote me up for 49. That was the last ticket I got until a wreck in June ’17, and that was 100% my fault.
tomLU86,
You can still get away with that on I-295, although its gets pretty busy on the stretch between I-64, I-95, and I-64 nowadays.
On Christmas morning about 3am in 1976, I was hauling ass back to Vegas from LA in my ’74 Roadrunner (modified) at 125MPH, which looking back on it, was scary as hell, mostly due to those crap bias ply tires of the era. There was NOBODY else driving on I15, it was as almost dead as an apocalyptic movie highway. I didn’t see the CHP car sitting off the shoulder, or at least I didn’t realize what he was until the lights came on and he pulled onto the road. I backed down to 55, and pulled over as soon as I got to a good place. The CHP officer gets out, and said, “Well, you were going a little too fast there, weren’t you, buddy?”. I said, “Yeah, I was just in a hurry so I could get a few hours sleep and a shower and go to work at Noon”. I gave him my license and reg, and fully expected to at least get a big ticket or arrested. He sat in his car for like 20 minutes, and comes back and says, “Listen, slow the F down!”, If I catch you speeding again between here and the border, you will regret it!”. I locked the cruise control at 55 until the border, when I went back up to 65. I couldn’t believe I somehow skated. It was a good Christmas that year.
Count me among the “law and order” cohort. I think driving at such speed on a public roadway is criminal. I love your site here Paul, but I have no sympathy for such recklessness…or its consequences.
This is “I got busted!” locker-room boasting you’d hear in school; when the cost is low (no jail, confiscation, or license suspension), it’s an easy way to enhance one’s social status.
Rules are for Suckers: that’s what many Americans believe now. It’s not just a Beltway problem.
“… I also assured him that I was not a danger to myself or others, as the conditions and our car were able to support a speed like that, and that I had decades of experience driving fast, including on the autobahn in Germany.”
You seem very convivial R Henry.
Excellent sentiment Neil. We’re all proud of you, as long as you stay in the slow lane out of the way.
I don’t think you have any experience, or perhaps even any comprehension of the scale of the western United States.
Here in Texas, I regularly drive 85 MPH… legally. This is the speed limit on a highway in the Austin area that I use. Most areas have 70 MPH limits on the highways, a growing number at 75, and a few are set at 80.
https://www.txdot.gov/driver/laws/speed-limits/approved.html
Speed is not inherently dangerous in itself where the roadways are designed for it, and vehicles are maintained properly (Texas has mandatory annual safety inspections).
Since you are concerned about bragging about illegality, here’s a brag just for you. I recently made an 1150 mile trip, and averaged 65.2 mph, including all stops…. and never broke a speed limit.
Your sarcastic post has nothing to do with me, for I gladly drive at whatever the posted rate is, conditions permitting, and firmly believe in lane discipline.
Speed may not be dangerous in itself, but the man who thinks the rules don’t apply to him because he’s an ace driver in a hot car is not only an Antinomian, he may have Optimism Bias (q.v.) as well.
I think driving at such speed on a public roadway is criminal.
Brilliant observation. Of course it is, and I made that very clear to the officer, and to my reading audience. Did I ever suggest otherwise?
But it’s only criminal because this road now has a posted speed limit. Which it didn’t have until several decades ago. In the 50s and 60s and early 70s folks were driving this fast (or faster) on this road with impunity. Which suggests that the law is somewhat arbitrary, and enacted not because people were killing themselves (or others) by doing it, but for other reasons.
It wasn’t reckless. I was quite cognizant of the possibility and consequences of getting caught. It was a calculated decision.
I’m not looking for sympathy and haven’t asked for any, certainly not from the “law and order” cohort.
When Nevada had no speed limits, cars mostly had drum brakes and bias ply tires. And in fact when the first speed limits were forced on Nevada by the Feds, it wasnt about safety, it was about energy consumption. In fact I believe even today, I believe Nevada issues low cost “energy violation” citations up to a certain speed. But perhaps that’s urban legend. And Nevada still hosts high speed open road races on public highways (Silver State, Virginia City).
I’m pretty sure that Montana was the state that issued the “energy violation” citation.
The cost was a whopping $5, and, if I recall correctly, it was not reported to your insurance company or even the state licensing agency.
Can’t say that I’ve ever been caught driving at triple-digit speeds. My last ticket on an interstate highway was for the heinous crime of driving 70 mph on the Pennsylvania Turnpike back when the speed limit was still 55 mph.
This serves as a cautionary tale for us Easterners who fantasize about “opening it up” on those wide open stretches out West. At least the police officers didn’t haul you off to jail.
Paul, a suggestion to fill your occasional need for speed is to do events on race tracks such as Porsche Club or BMW Club driver school events at various tracks in the US and Canada. Some race tracks, like Nelson Ledges or Waterford Hills have “fun” day events which are non marque specific allowing you to have multiple sessions on a track during an event day. Depending on your car’s performance characteristics, your driving abilities, and the track layout, 130 mph or higher can be appreciated and enjoyed with relative safety on each lap during each track session. Speaking from experience, track events on high speed tracks like Watkins Glen are safe and exhilarating without the risks inherent on the open road, and certainly without the ticket risk.
On the track 130 or for that matter 150+, when done in the company of skilled like minded drivers is incredible fun and safe, To fill your need for speed, consider it, or even consider a week at a school like Bondurant’s. Cheers!
+1. I’ve not yet done a HPDE track day (but want to). The Autox events I’ve done have been a total hoot. You feel like you’re doing 130, but you’re rarely actually exceeding 40-50.
+2!
I have done autox and I did laps on Speedvegas and Exotics Racing in Las Vegas. Autocross is a hoot and challenging. Racetrack laps with instructor are also excellent experiences. Depending on the choice of vehicle they can be cheaper than the ticket you paid.
A 1992 Mazda 929 will go faster than 110 but the front end gets floaty at anything over 100 so I’d recommend something else for triple digit travel speeds.
After 60 stories …….. about going 60 over the limit, it’s time for a word from Junior Brown …….
Happy Listening!
https://youtu.be/x_wLVCLPx0M
Thanks for that one, Dan.
As someone said in a previous thread about great car songs, “if you don’t know of Junior Brown, I pity you. I really do”.
Wow what a fine! That almost $1000 CDN. Stephanie did put into perspective though. Here in Ontario 50km/h or 30 mph over the long get your vehicle impounded immediately. I have had to be careful since this came in on some of more aggressive two lane passes. A colleague did get stopped by the OPP for doing just over 50 over the limit but he was lucky enough to convince him to knock the ticket to 49 over to avoid the tow. His insurance went up though after that one.
I’m not 100% convinced this was actually knocked down to a run-of-the-mill speeding citation. It looks a lot more like a court appearance document and all “Officer Friendly” did was post bail on the spot, rather than haul him off to jail, then have him in front of a judge the next morning to post bail at that time.
I mean, I just don’t see anything about pleading guilty on the citation and mailing in a fine, as is usually the case in any speeding ticket I got. This looks more like mailing in bail to keep from an arrest warrant being issued. My guess is that, at best, after mailing in the $740, a plea offer will be sent back where he can plead guilty to the charge, mail in a fine (probably around $200) but have his $600 bail posting returned.
At worst, he’ll have to come back to Nevada and appear before a judge to enter a plea. If the cop had truly been a ‘nice guy’, he’d have written him up for less than 41 mph over the limit and just gave him a citation where no bail was needed and the option of just pleading guilty and mailing in a fine. But since it was written for over 41 mph, well, then it, apparently, is an offense for which arrest (and bail) is warranted.
I didn’t post bail on the spot. As he explained it, I have three choices, one of them being to send in the full amount and not contesting it. I don’t have to come back if I don’t contest it.
Apropos that I am reading this while watching an episode of Locked Up Abroad.
As others have said, stay out of Virginia, Paul.
It’s kinda of sad we’ve developed this kind of reputation. But I’m sure law enforcement loves it.
Not all of Law Enforcement “loves it” about Virginia.
The stories I’ve heard (from my stepson, a law enforcement officer, included), the “Brass Pass” does not get you a break. Nor are Virginia officers given a break in other states due to this reputation.
When I was driving through Virginia on the way to see the Solar Eclipse last August, I set the cruise at 5 over and kept it there until I hit NC. Fortunately, the speed limit was 70, so it did not feel too too slow.
In New South Wales, Australia, it’s $2384 (+ 6 demerit points) for going over 45km/h (30mph) above the limit.
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/roads/safety-rules/demerits-speeding.pdf
For going 130mph, you would be in deeeep shit.
How times in NSW have changed we used to commute into Narrabri up the Newel highway at wide open throttle in a XB Fairmont wagon 351 engine no cops for miles around.
I got one back around 1986 in SoCal back in the 55 MPH days. I bought Dad’s ’79 GMC Caballero after helping him repossess it. It had a burnt plug wire (305 V8), I installed new wires, plugs, cap and rotor but the cat was plugged and it still ran like crap. I bought some fuel additive that was supposed to clean it out, the bottle said drive with air cleaner removed and haul ass, or words to that effect.
It had the stupid 85 MPH speedo, it took a few miles to inch up to 85 and eventually regained good power, I kept it floored for a few miles with the speedo pegged. This was on Hwy 14 around Lancaster, early Sunday morning with no traffic.
Since it now ran well, I backed off, got behind a truck and soon had another truck behind me, we were going about 60. After a few miles a CHP flew by in the left lane, saw me between the trucks, slammed on his brakes, got next to me, and turned on his lights and pulled me over.
I explained what I was doing, had the fuel additive bottle and air cleaner assembly on the passenger floor. He was pretty young, and said he had been trying to catch up to me for about fifteen minutes. Don’t remember what make the Patrol car was, but it must have been pretty slow, even for the times. He lectured me about how I was going over 100 and he could take me to jail for reckless driving, etc. Gave me a ticket for going 74 MPH, said any faster and it was automatic reckless. He gave me a break, thankfully.
A few years ago I got pulled over in my Titan for doing 65 in a 55, I told the officer my speedo read 55 but I had recently gotten bigger tires and wheels and asked him if that could be the cause. He told me to get back on the road and wave when my speedo hit 55. I waved when it hit 65, he pulled me over and he said, yes, that’s the problem, I told him I would take it to the dealer, thanked him and drove off. They were factory alloy wheels with stock tires.
This reminds me of one of our family stories. Back sometime in the mid 50’s my uncle was a young hotrodder and had proudly rebuilt his flathead Ford. He too got a ticket while flying around “to seat the rings”. When he complained to my grandfather about the unfairness of the ticket because of the necessity of spinning up the engine, my grandfather asked him:
Couldn’t you have just driven around in 2nd gear?
Darn adults and their logic….
Well, Paul, that was really moving! That is quite a fine, too! I’ve exceeded 100mph so many times, it’s no longer an event for me, anymore. In fact, I think I broke it this morning. As far as expensive tickets go, my record is in the $900 range, just last year. Took a week long trip up north from my home in Orange Park, FL (Jacksonville area) to Delaware via the Chesapeake Tunnel, and then crossed over Pennsylvania to Titusville, then on to Buffalo. I returned straight from Buffalo back home. Over the course of the week I managed to find out my “chipped” limit in the 2012 Grand Cherokee V6 is 112mph. I used my better judgement, but over the course of that week I logged approximately 3,000 miles, most of them about 20 over the limit, and probably 75% of those miles on interstates. Well, after all those miles, I get shot in Darien, GA, not 100 miles from home. 94 in a 70. Small town policeman, on the interstate. Nearly $700 freaking dollars. More than I spent on the whole darn trip! When I get home, I call the Florida DMV to find out how to handle an out of state ticket. The lady was quite nice, but she informed me once I paid it, I would receive another ticket in the mail; a GA “superspeeder” citation, for being convicted of exceeding the limit over 15 mph. Another $200. Further investigation revealed that ticket is not a civil infraction, as the speeding ticket was, but rather a criminal, misdemeanor infraction. We’re talking nearly $900 now, without factoring in insurance increases. By the way, believe it or not, I have zero points on my license, and haven’t for about 15 years. Thank you, local traffic court judges. Well, I started receiving attorney solicitations from Darien, and wanting to withhold the points, I contacted one. For $900 and something dollars he’d take care of it. No points, no superspeeder, no showing up, no nothing. Guaranteed. Now, I reminded him that even my attorney never “guarantees” an outcome, but he said he’s handled many, and he knows what to do. Credit card number, please? A few weeks later, he mails me the papers showing he did exactly what he said he’d do. I called the Darien police department just to make sure, and it was legit.
Come to find out Darien is a famous speed trap, and speeding tickets are a cottage industry there; everyone’s in on it: the police, the court, even the local private attorneys.
A friend told me he went there on a day trip to visit a seafood restaurant, I told him beware of the cops, he said, “Too late, I got popped, too.” They don’t play around in that town.
Moral of the story? Don’t speed in Darien.
Better moral: stay out of Darien, even if means driving miles out of your way.
I hit 100 once in my Nissan Hardbody, it’s probably one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever done. I think that was the the textbook definition of “pushing a vehicle to it’s limits” in every aspect.
You beat my record for being caught. I was caught doing 96 in a 55 zone. Somehow, he didn’t even give me a ticket. But I’ve hit 130 lots of times. Gotta keep an eye on the radar detector, that’s the trick.
I feel ripped off now. During the gas crisis in the 70’s when the speed limit was dropped to 55 I was driving an automatic VW Type 3 wagon through los Angeles. A CHP motorcycle officer pulled me over for doing 60 mph. My friend, sitting in the passenger seat, thought I was going to jump over him to strangle the officer when he saw my face as he told me he was going to cite me.
Come to think of it I have gotten only three speeding tickets and two of them were in that VW. The other one during the same gas crisis coasting down the Altamont Pass to save gas and coasted up right behind the rear of a CHP Polara. That one was brilliant and recall it clearly at 11:25 pm on Dec. 18, 1973 my birthday. That one was 10 over and still couldn’t catch a break on that one other than a Happy Birthday from the officer.
Imagine getting pulled over on an almost deserted Interstate in rural Idaho in the wee hours of the morning for substantially over the speed limit. Chevy pickup, Oregon plates, dog in the back seat. After the usual pleasantries, the officer wanted to see my license and registration. “Officer, my license, registration, insurance info, and firearm are in the glovebox. How would you like to handle this?”
Unbelievably I drove off a few minutes later, but not without a stern warning and an inspection of my permit. I have nothing else to add to this thread (how long is the Statute of Limitations?)
In the State of Victoria, Australia, 8 demerit points, automatic impoundment of vehicle, police would charge with dangerous driving (if not reckless conduct endangering life), which no prosecutor would withdraw, so then an automatic minimum of 6 months off the road and more realistically the court would order 12. (Bugger-all chance of defending the charge either, all loopholes long since sewn up). Fine would be in the $2000 range. Add in the costs of recovering your car and the lawyer you’d be foolish not to hire. Oh, and if you’re from another state, all these penalties here would go onto your licence there.
When much younger, I sped like a hoon. On country 60mph roads like this, everyone sat on 75 mph, those in a hurry like me on about 85 or more. But we’ve had ever-stricter enforcement over many years, and nobody but 20 y.o. males whose brains are literally not yet fully wired ever do 130+.
Mind you, it’s not some inherent restraint in folks that have caused the big slowdown – it’s the big threat. And hate to admit, but it works. We have a very low fatality rate, though I’d also add we have very low driving standards and a good deal of frustration from driving endlessly in schools at exactly the limit (mostly 62mph) across empty country (and yeah, I know lower speeds aren’t the only factor in lower fatalities).
No matter how much I love this website, as someone who has had people who are friends and family die in accidents where speed was a factor (regardless of any sort of arbitrary speed limit) I cannot respect this behavior.
What if your tire blows, what if you hit an animal, what if you just can’t anticipate the traffic ahead? What if anything? No matter how in control you might feel at the time, you could end up killing either yourself or someone else. An Acura can’t protect you at that speed — and it can’t protect who you might hit at that speed.
This isn’t a “gimme” this is a “got out of jail free card.” This ticket is not something to be proud of, it’s a lucky way to say that you didn’t kill yourself or someone else.
Just because you CAN speed excessively doesn’t mean you should, just because you’ve driven on the autobahn (like many of us) doesn’t mean you’re right. Also, in a white Acura? Insult to injury.
Indeed. No one ever expects an accident – that’s why they’re called accidents. The unexpected can and does happen, with the ability to recover and avoid decreasing as speed goes up. Speed limits of 80-85 on Western interstates seem reasonable, but things can happen awful fast at 100 mph plus and when they do, the results aren’t going to be pretty. Reasonable speed limits should be about safety and exceeding them by 10-15 mph might not be a big deal. But I don’t want to be sharing the road with people blasting along at 130.
Paul Arnold Niedermeyer, behave yourself! Haha.
I’m loving your route, by the way. Last year, I sketched out a plan for a Californian road trip, going as far north as Eureka, as far east as Death Valley, and as far south as San Diego. I was thinking about doing it this year, but then I changed my mind and decided on an Icelandic ring road trip. Now I’ve changed it again to a non-driving trip to Europe. We’ll see what I end up doing…
Great story, Paul and it hits home once again. From my RD350 in high school to my 280Z and Suzuki Bandit 1200, I’ve enjoyed a lot of safe and spirited driving/riding. Only 1 speeding ticket (knock on wood) in 40+ years, and it had to come in the slowest vehicle I’ve ever owned-my 05 Wrangler. Cruising from Weed CA towards Doris CA on hwy 97, I let it hit 80 on a long, sweeping downhill curve. About 2 miles ahead there was a string of cars coming my way. Soon, I noticed a black vehicle with a white top at the back of the pack. I immediately took my foot off the throttle even though they were still a mile away. “CHP”, I said when my girlfriend asked why I slowed down. “You can’t possibly tell what that car is” she smirked. Ten minutes later as Barney was writing me up, I told him I couldn’t believe he would ruin my perfect driving record for a little speeding “in this God-forsaken sh*thole”. So he added a fix-it for no mud flaps, “just so you don’t feel cheated”. Had to open my big mouth.
I’m reminded of a buddy back in high school, around 1980. Here in Jacksonville we have a 3+ mile long bridge, infamous to this day for speeding upon. Danny had a ’70 Challenger convertible with a modified 383-V8. He claims he was shot by a state trooper at 143mph, the limit then was 55mph (it’s now 65mph). It was a young trooper who wanted to see under the hood. After looking it over, he said, “I don’t believe this heap will do 143mph, my radar must be messd up. Get outta here.”
Or so that’s the story…
Tsk tsk tsk Paul, my heroes are dropping one by one….first Al Franken and now you.
Only kidding; it might be jealousy. I’ve done 120 in the Saab but that was short term to “check the alignment”. I start losing confidence above 90; despite the wide-open spaces I still PTSD over my 2 deer strikes.
That TSX sounds like a charmer….
I find speeding stressful so I set the cruise at a few mph over the posted limit and relax.
130 MPH?! That is substantial!
Two months ago me and two friends ( a buddy and his girlfriend ) make a trip to Havasu to retrieve his ’03 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins, which he left at the home of the couple he bought his cherry ’06 Ram Laramie from. I was driving my 1995 Lexus LS400.
After getting his truck, having dinner, and a little sightseeing, we made the long trek back to L.A. Around 10:30 at night, driving down a particularly deserted stretch of Highway 40 W, I happened to glance down at my speedommeter and I was doing 110. I immediately backed off- not because I feared imminent death, but I definitely feared the massive hit to my wallet if ol’ Smokey spotted me.
Ah, I know that section of US95 well, and I never do more than about 10 over, if that, on it. On some less traveled roads I have, and one time I got a ticket for 80 in a 70 in that general neighborhood. But the GPS said 78. I don’t know if the GPS or radar was correct, but after calling the local Nevada Court asking about traffic school for an out of state driver I was told I could petition for a “No Points” ticket. Which I did and which I was granted. $75 or so? A bargain compared to my home state of California.
As to Paul’s little drive? In the area, really no big deal if the tires and car are up to it. Traffic laws are made for a variety of reasons, but fairness or reasonableness are rarely among them.
A few years ago, I was selling broadcast TV gear and was giving my pitch at ESPN in Bristol, Connecticut. The engineers were impressed and asked if they could have an additional discount if they purchased $250K of the gear. But of course.!
So I’m headed South on 684 with Virgil, a good ol’ southern boy and inventor of the technology. That I just sold. I was in my SVT Focus with the twin cam engine and a getrag 6 speed tranny. Speed limit is 55 and I’m approaching 100 in 4th with two more gears to go. Suddenly Virgil blurts out, “Thars a cop in the median.” ! I hit the brakes but he had me. I put down my window, and place my hands on the wheel where they can easily be seen. Jamaican by birth, the State Trooper says, “Talk to me mon!” I excitedly relate my story and admit that I was so worked-up that I wasn’t watching the Speedo. Plus, “I have a guy with me who doesn’t speak English ? Trooper shines the mag light in Virgil’s face and in his best southern drawl he says, “Hey!” The trooper says, “Well this is a very fast car and you must be careful but I don’t wanna be ruining the ‘Feeling!” Have a nice day.” At which Point Virgil says to me “Wow, y’all ARE A SALESMAN.
True story!
Great stories here .
I’ve seen too much carnage and so rarely exceed 85 MPH .
One of my old Mercedes turbo Diesels had a broken governor in the injection pump, the GPS said it went 127 MPH @ WFO, that I.P. smoked so badly I replaced it and now I’m lucky to get 92 MPH if there’s no wind and the road is dead flat .
In general I prefer to drive slow cars fast .
-Nate
I have this here old Tomcat next to me, and you will not believe what he just told me. He says one could pair a Raspberry Pi with some SDR technology and a wee antenna or two and make an adaptive radar jammer. This is loathesome and illegal. For that, he sleeps outside with the coons tonight.