Here’s another great find from frequent Cohort contributor and commenter johnh875. I imagine there can’t be too many of these running around Victoria these days. I am also sure that Eric Van Buren or Michael Freeman will be able to tell us the year and model of this vintage Cornbinder!
CC Outtake: Long Way From Home
– Posted on May 11, 2012
Of course I can tell you what year it is, more or less. The definitive way to tell is the grille, which of course means it isn’t definitive since they are frequently damaged and replaced and since they aren’t that common they often get what ever was available. That basic grille was used from 1977-9 the fact that the it looks like it is 2 big slots because the upright bars rule out the 1977 version as those were painted silver instead of black. So IF the grille is original and unmolested that makes in a 78 or 79.
However the truck has been messed with as it is wearing a Cabtop as denoted by the square corners of the side windows and it was not used after the “long bed” Terra pickup was introduced with the extended Traveler in 1976 which both use side glass with a rounded corner and the 118″ wheel base. This is the 118″ wheel base version as noted by the distance between the door and rear wheel well. The standard Scout II and Cabtop as shown in my avatar used a 100″ wheelbase.
With the 118″ wheel base combined with the Cabtop this truck will have a nominal 6.5′ bed compared to the 6′ of a Terra and the 5′ of the Cabtop.
So the best I can tell you is this is a 1976-1980 and as such it is a nominal “1 ton” pickup as they upped the GVWR in 1975 to 6200lbs to put them in the “heavy” light duty emissions class that did not need a catalytic converter. The same reason we saw the F-150 and Chevy “Heavy Half” make their debut.
You’re a veritable encyclopaedia on International. Hats off!
I love this kind of information. Thanks for sharing it.
Indeed!
For a few years in the late 70s, a truck with a GVWR over 6,000 pounds didn’t have to have a cat converter. That’s when the model numbers changed. ~1979 cats were required on small trucks, but the model numbers remained. The GVWR was increased by various means, sometimes something as simple as raising the tire pressures on the sticker. I had a 1977 Jeep Cherokee with a GVWR of 6050 pounds & no cat.
Yup 1976-1978 was when the over 6K freed you of the cats after 1979 you needed over 8500lb to avoid the cat which lasted well into the 80’s not remembering the exact year.
They were still doing it in ’86 as I have two nearly identical ’86 3/4 ton Chevy/GMC trucks: one is catalyst; one is not.
Except thats an Aussie ute and would have run on leaded fuel so no cats at all
Eric do you know if IH assembled the light duty Scouts/Terras/Traveltops out here in their Dandenong plant? That might be one explanation for the different window glass. All three versions were sold here, but I am not sure about any others. Its been far too long since I used to look at the IH brochures at my grandfather’s farm as a youngster. (Grandpa had a couple of IH AACO trucks and a front-end loader, I’m pretty sure his other gear was other manufacturers)
Millmech, unleaded fuel & cats were not required out here until 1986, so I doubt it has one.
Nope all Scout II were assembled in Ft Wayne Indiana. RHD was a standard option as they were sold for contract mail carriers, meter readers, mosquito spray and even a few on govt mail truck contract.
For the first few years of the Scout 80 production they did assemble a few in Canada but that didn’t last for what ever reason.
IH did do a few prototypes with the steel Cabtop on the 118″ wheelbase but for what ever reason decided to do the Terra’s fiberglass extended cab. I’m betting but not sure that the rounded windows were to prevent a stress area in the fiberglass tops.
In the US it is a pretty common mod to put the Terra’s top on the 100″ wheelbase trucks but that makes for a very short bed.