A few months ago we got a dog, and although I’ve always walked a lot and noticed interesting cars close to home, the two or three daily walks have revealed a lot of interesting sights. Though to be honest, a few of these finds weren’t in our immediate neighborhood. Let’s start with one of the oldest, which was actually over the hill near a friend’s house in Palo Alto, this Nash Ambassador.
I’ll let you guys tell me the year, but I know it’s older than me. And, it’s the only American Motors or Renault related sighting I’ve found for quite a while.
Moving from extinct to orphan, at least in the US, here’s a Peugeot 505 wagon just a few blocks away from the Nash. 505’s are pretty rare finds, but I had to look up the designation on this one.
The SW8 was the US naming for the station wagon (hence SW) which seated 8 in 3 rows.
There were several other nice CC finds on that walk, but this is the last of the extinct brands I found that day, a Pontiac Solstice. I’ve been noticing quite a few of these in my own town recently, as well as at least one Saturn Sky. At lot has been written about these here at CC but I still find them eye-catching and an interesting example of GM’s odd path in the final years of several of their brands.
Moving closer to home, but still Pontiac, this 6000LE has been sitting in the driveway just a block from my house for a long time.
The slightly odd stance isn’t due to a flat tire, but comes from a mini spare on the front. There are a couple of daily driver A Body Buick Centuries I see pretty often, but this is probably the only 6000 around.
Does a Vibe count as a Pontiac? This red one is also a resident of a nearby street. For those unfamiliar with this car, it was a near-twin of the Toyota (Corolla) Matrix. I say near-twin, because while they were mechanically identical, the Pontiac version had some unique sheetmetal and other components, perhaps due to local sourcing. Interestingly, while the Matrix was only made in Canada, the Vibe was manufactured a few counties away from me in Fremont, California, at the Toyota-GM joint venture factory which is now owned by Tesla. Both cars were sold in both countries, and the Vibe was also rebadged as a Toyota Voltz with right hand drive and sold in Japan.
Another extinct brand from the GM family is this Saturn Astra I found a few blocks up the hill from me. In retrospect, its styling shares a lot with the Vibe, though a little more of a conventional 5 door hatch and less of a “tall wagon”. Was this the only Belgian-manufactured car ever sold in the US?
Another black 5 door hatch with GM-genes is this Suzuki Aerio. The Honda Fit (Jazz in other markets) is also extinct as a model here in the US, though hopefully not orphaned by Honda parts departments. Unlike the Suuzki SX4 which followed the Aerio, the earlier car’s stance and proportions always looked odd to me. I prefer the Fit. When I saw these two parked nose to tail, I immediately thought of the Mad Magazine comic Spy vs Spy.
Moving over to the Ford side of the house, this Grand Marquis in full Florida (or New Jersey) trim stood out on a nearby street mostly populated with pickups and newer imported brands. Sorry for the stereotypes, but half-vinyl tops and whitewalls aren’t too common here, and really never were. On the other hand, as the number of aero Panthers is dwindling, I’m starting to notice more clean MGM’s than Fords, which are often well-worn ex-taxi or ex-cop cars, perhaps both.
Back to General Motors, here’s a second-to-last generation Pontiac Bonneville. Late 1990’s I believe.
And within a block of the Bonneville, an Oldsmobile Alero.
And another one. Not cars I would have bothered photographing even a few years ago, but these are getting rarer all the time. A few days ago I saw another Alero, a 2 door, but was unable to get a photo.
Still GM, and like the Astra from Europe, but at least bearing a European brand name, is this Saab 9-3. Although I took this picture on a sunny day, we had an exceptionally rainy winter and this car sat outside with the open (or broken) rear window for months. And now it’s gone.
I’ll end with this Fiat 500L. Not an extinct brand of course, but in the US it seems just a few steps from becoming an orphan. Only the 500X is sold here currently, although a new electric 500 has been announced for 2024. Just under 500 of the 500L’s were sold here in their last model year, 2020. I had trouble finding recent sales numbers for the 500X in the US, but one estimate was less than 1000 units last year. As a comparison, the 500X’s stablemate the Jeep Renegade sold about 30000 units in 2022.
With a few exceptions, I took most of these pictures over the last few months of dog walking. I soon noticed the number of extinct or orphan brands, which prompted the theme I picked for today’s post. But one brand continued to elude me, Plymouth. I would cross the street to look more closely at every minivan and Neon I saw. No luck, they were always Dodge or Chrysler. I’ve seen a Dart and an Aspen recently, but no Valiant or Volare. Oh well.
About 1972 we took a trip to visit some of my mother’s relatives in Minnesota. One evening, a boyfriend of one of the girls at the house we were visiting came by in a Nash much like this one (and in a similar outside condition), only it was the cheaper Statesman. I was maybe 13 and spent a good hour or two exploring that old Nash, and still have a fascination about them.
I laughed at the “Spy vs. Spy” reference. The Honda Fit (a Sport model) is the Gen1, which was only sold here in 2007-08. It remains my favorite of all of them (says the guy who still drives one). That is a very nice one – the ones in my area are starting to look not great.
That is an amazing selection of GM stuff – especially from what I understand about your area.
You forgot to post a picture of your dog.
At the beach, chomping down on a puppy-sized piece of driftwood.
Oh soo handsome!!
The photo of the pre-AMC ’51 Nash reminded me of an article penned by Tom McCahill when the style was first introduced in 1949.
“Nash . . . has gone overboard for the newest fad in car designs and come up with two hot candidates for Miss Upside-Down Bathtub. . . .The Ambassador has jumped into the latest fashion with both faucets wide open.”
Both faucets wide open indeed. Mr. McCahill was a rare example of humorist and auto writer combined. He crafted many a memorable phrase.
Ahh, Uncle Tom McCahill. The “independent” auto reviewer who was a long-time, paid shill for Chrysler Corporation. Kind of explains his constant effusiveness for all Chrysler products. Wonder how long he would last today after one of his typical wisecracks, such as “this Caddy rides as smooth as a prom queen’s thighs”.
I remember when Pontiac 6000s were all over the place. When I was in elementary school, a classmate’s dad had a new 6000STE that I thought was pretty slick; now they’re almost all gone.
I remember them too along with the Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera and the Chevrolet Celebrity, it’s been a while then I didn’t saw one still on the road. Also, the Renault 5 aka “Le Car” used to be very popular in Quebec and they have meet the same fate as the Pontiac 6000.
My brother /sister in law had an “85-6ish” wagon. Drove nice, fast, quiet. Transmission went out in late “88” as I recall.
Steve Jobs first car in 1970 was a Nash Metropolitan. Who knows – maybe the old Ambassador in the first photo was kicking around Palo Alto way back then.
Great collection. I live in a city that regularly uses road salt from November to March. Not surprisingly, the only two cars in this full assortment (excluding the Fiat), I still see on an almost daily basis, are the Vibe and Matrix. And almost all of those, appear in very good condition. Owners are keeping them, and they keep on going. Most of the rest, have been gone for years.
I’ll take the Purrrr-Joe, please, a stellar find! Unless it had to be my only car and needed to be relied on every day without fail and quick and easy parts availability (it is 35 or so years old, after all..). Then I guess the Vibe followed by the Fit followed by the Fiat…
Walking a dog does lets you see everything that is going on in a neighborhood, it’s a good way to meet more neighbors as well as they get familiar with seeing you walk past their house over time…
The last time I saw an Airflyte driving was 1971. There was one parked around here in the early 90s but it’s long gone. Hudsons of that era have been collected and restored far more enthusiastically. Nobody wanted the Nashes.
Olds Alero. a pretty generic looking GM offering. for me, it now only memorable for its ongoing appearance as a Crossword Puzzle clue answer. the hint is frequently something along the lines of last Olds.
The first family car I remember was a 1950 Nash AMBASSADOR. Purchased in late 1950 for approximately $3000, it gave great service. Roomy, comfortable, smooth riding, and plenty of power from 7 main bearing six cylinder motor. Many times I fell asleep in back seat on the way home. Motor was so quiet, friend of my mother (Buick owner) asked when she was going to turn on the ignition! In late 1959, after years of trouble free service and NO rust, Mom’s arthritis was giving problems parking (te Ambassador did not have power steering). So they traded for a 55 🎵 Delightful 🎶DeSoto 🎵 black and just out of service from a local funeral home. Learned to drive on that beauty. Only other car here that takes my interest s the GRAND MARQUIS. 🏆. Have had numerous upscale vehicles from GM but in the late 80S, I found FMC vehicles mostly more appealing and attractive, especially when upgraded like the one shown. Have had Crown Vics, GRAND MARQUIS, and currently have beautiful low mileage 2007 Town Car Signature Limited. Used for taxi service, livery and police, these have proven to be long lasting, dependable,and comfortable vehicles. Fords biggest mistake was NOT the EDSEL, but discontinuing these great cars in favor of SUVS and crossovers.
“Fords biggest mistake was NOT the EDSEL, but discontinuing these great cars in favor of SUVS and crossovers.”
I’ll agree that Ford has made plenty of missteps over the years, but discontinuing a line of fairly inefficient cars with poor space utilization that were sold pretty much exclusively on lowest bidder status to police, taxi, livery and rental fleets and were vaguely popular used cars in large part due to their horrible depreciation is certainly not one of them (and I kind of like some of them!). I can’t name a single person that walked into a FoMoCo showroom and ordered or purchased a new one of any of the three models post-Y2K, can you? They were produced through 2011… I can however name literally dozens of people that did purchase a different model of new Ford between Y2K and 2011 though including both my own mother and my inlaws, all of which are about your age. They spent zero time looking at a new CV, MGM, or TC, just like everyone else. Ford makes far more money selling Explorers to police fleets, Navigators to livery companies, Escapes to taxi and rental fleets, and civilian versions to everyone else.
Did you buy a new Town Car? Ford doesn’t build used cars.
Somehow my response got posted as a new comment rather than a response to you! See comment below for my response. Like I said, OLD Dog 🐕. Technology is not my forte.
I think you missed the point re Ford Or perhaps you actually perfectly illustrated the point! Oh well, have a good day!
Post-Y2K CV? No, but MGM and TC I can say yes. Pre-Y2K Alero? Never.
The Ambassador shown is a 1951. The rear fenders are the give away. I believe 🤔 that for 52, Nash styling was drastically changed but the rear fenders were an early hint of what was to come.
Thanks for identifying the year. That makes it five years older than me. So far I’m holding up better than the Nash, but I do get out more.
Always happy to help. I was born in 1947 and now consider myself a vintage Rolls Canardly. Roll down one hill and can ardly get up the next! Appreciate your posts!
Did you know that 50 Nash featured seats that could be made into a bed? This feature continued into the 60s on Rambler Americans, causing many parents to think twice about daughters dating young men who arrived in an American! 😡
I have only bought one NEW car in my life (77 Monte Carlo) preferring upscale vehicles that for years were beyond my reach when new. Admittedly I have a strong preference for traditional American luxury vehicles. I looked long to find my 2007 Town Car with low mileage and in near showroom condition. Bought it two years ago to replace my Grand Marquis (149,000 miles) and spent hours negotiating price but fortunately was successful. Personally have no desire for any SUV or crossover. Very OLD 🐕 DOG will likely drive my Town Car (just turned 71,000 miles) to the grave!
Based on what I see on the streets I would have thought that Fiat had departed the US market 5 years ago. It’s pretty bizarre that the last remaining model is the largest version of a car that had retro styling derived off of what was a micro car!
The 6000le is what grabbed my attention, I still see the odd Buick and Olds A bodies soldiering on here and there but never the Pontiac version. I forgot they had the roofline update. The taillight cluster interested me as a kid, with the whole panel being tinted except the amber turn signals, I never saw anything like that. Now ironically it’s got the classic beater tape lens but they used RED tape! This has to shake Daniel Stern to his very core 😆
I liked that second to last generation Bonneville, when the LX Dodge Chargers came out I thought they were cribbing these but with a way taller belt line.
I miss Pontiac, Chevy and Buick haven’t built a single model since the bankruptcy that justifies those brands continued existence either – the Corvette is practically it’s own brand, trucks could just be GMCs, and Camaro could just be Firebird, everything else is disposable and can just move over. The arrowhead is a better looking badge than the bow tie and Buick shield anyway.
Last year we took a road trip up to inland western Canada, in the Okanagan, Kootenays and Rockies as far east as Canmore. I was amazed at the number of “newer” Pontiacs there, including some that either never made it to States like the Firefly and Wave, or now rare here like Aztek, Solstice, Torrent etc.
“Was this (Saturn) the only Belgian-manufactured car ever sold in the US?”
Nope. A fair number of Volvo 700-series cars that made it to the US were produced in a factory in Ghent, Belgium.
Thanks! I knew someone would have the answer and I know realize I knew that once, but had forgotten.
I had a couple 6000s. Definitely seemed to be the least common of all the A bodies. But if you could keep the trailing arm mounts from rusting, they would run forever.
I’ve seen a couple recently in Michigan. A late 80s LE wagon, which was a spitting image of my old one. Only way I knew it wasn’t mine is because I stripped and scrapped mine when the rust took its toll. And a couple months ago I saw a very good condition 84 6000 sedan. They must have just taken it out when the snow went away temporarily.
Love the Nash (and Hudsons from that era). I’m a bathtub man.
I have a soft spot for the Fiat 500L; it’s a terrific package, very roomy yet compact. If my xB were to die, I’d consider one with a stick or the later Aisin 6-speed automatic, just not the one with the manumatic.
I remember you’ve mentioned that you liked the 500L before, Paul. I imagine it’s a fine car but the styling … dumpy shape with small wheel wells … really turns me off. Come to think of it, it rather evokes the Nash in that way. On the other hand, the only late model (ie post 124/128) Fiat I’ve driven was a 2000-2001 Marea rental in Italy. A car that always got mediocre reviews in Euro-mags but felt positively Alfa-like compared to the similar spec (FWD, 1.8 DOHC, five speed) Corolla we had at home at the time. Like VW and Peugeot, I never understood what caused Fiat to be unable to replicate its global success here in the US. And don’t say rust or reliability.