(first posted 10/4/2012) Got a growing family on a budget? Are twins on the way, but you don’t want to pulverize the piggy bank? If so, you had a plethora of choices in 1962! The compact-wagon market was booming, and virtually everyone but luxury stalwarts Chrysler, Cadillac and Lincoln offered tantalizing tailgate options in a reduced-size package. Which one would you have chosen in ’62?
Near-Cutlass level class was available with the F-85 wagons. Using the same basic body as the Tempest, the F-85s upped the ante with our roundup’s first standard-equipment V8 and first optional automatic with more than two gears. Incidentally, that automatic was the Series Five edition of the ever-controversial Roto-Hydramatic. Also, it might even have been mentioned in Curbside Classic (if I remember correctly, JPCavanaugh’s mother had a love/hate relationship with her ’61) that there were concerns about GM’s using buyers as guinea pigs for their new aluminum V8’s casting and cooling issues.
One of our Mid-Century Modern Miniature Mobility Masterpieces, the Buick Special, was actually named “Car of The Year” for 1962, an honor that seems to have been based solely on its new Fireball V6. Still, with 135 standard horsepower on tap, and Buick prestige written on its flanks, how could you go wrong?
It’s time we got to the “Mopar Madness” part of our comparison. While the Valiant/Lancer fraternal twins didn’t share as much DNA as the Falcon/Comet wagons, it was mostly sheet metal and appointments that set apart these family haulers, perhaps inspired by Virgil Exner’s repeated playing of “Fly Me To The Moon” after too many Manhattans.
But underneath the outré styling lived all the typical Mopar goodies: Torsion-aire ride, Torqueflite automatic, and a tough Slant Six. Incredibly, these weren’t even the most mutant looking wagons offered by Highland Park: Despite that reverse slant C-pillar, they still project a jaunty sportiness that’s absent from the competition, the Corvair excepted.
Now, let’s move out of Detroit Metro to our independent choices. First up, from South Bend, is the Lark. From the windshield back, the Lark wagons featured 1959-vintage bodies (which themselves displayed 1953-vintage roots) while all the other Larks tried to hide their age with a little more make-up and some empire-waisted gowns, including squared-off roof lines and starchier rear fenders. But here we see such big-car amenities as the tough-old-bird Studebaker V8. Growing only 2.5″ in the front clip, the Larks had the tidiest dimensions of any V8-equipped wagon for 1962.
But tidiest of all was the thriftmaster from Kenosha, with its Praying Mantis face and basic structural innards from the dawn of the 1950s. Also found here, in base models, is the only flathead I-6 available in the class (although OHV engines were available for higher-grade models). Yet with all that old-fashioned technology also came old-fashioned build quality, with solidity that some competitors rather lacked. Although the world had changed since its debut as a “bathtub on wheels”, plenty of buyers loved the car’s stubborn adherence to its “American Virtues.”
So here we are. Where will our small-wagon fantasy money go? Given the plethora of choices, I find this comparison the hardest from which to make a firm decision–even without factoring in the imports. But have at it.
Great idea, and some tough decisions to make. I really like these little wagons of this vintage, and I could find some love for any of them. Well, the Rambler and Lark purely for their quirkiness. That applies mostly to the Mopar wagons too. These must have been a bit too much for most buyers, because they were always very scarce, even in the sixties.
A Lancer with the 148 hp HyperPak six, but it needs a four speed. That would make a killer combo.
The Falcon is a very pragmatic choice, and the four-speed stick was available after mid-year. That combo with the 170 inch six wouldn’t have been too bad.
But not surprisingly, the two most compelling choices are (of course) the Tempest and the Corvair. A choice between a Tempest with the 166hp four-barrel Trophy four and the four speed stick against the a four-speed Monza wagon…a difficult decision indeed. I’ll get back to you when I make up my mind.
I had a teacher (one of the best) in high school in the early 70’s,who drove a white Studebaker station wagon. He went to graduate school with Einstein…..
Keep in mind the Tempest has the rope drive, or speedometer drive, and as far as I can tell, there are no new one’s available. When you find them, the driveshaft is usually broke. When you find a bunch in a wrecking yard, the driveshafts are all gone.
I have to go ’62 Buick Special, with 4BBL aluminum V8, and 4 speed. Don’t know if it was available in the wagon, but the brochure does not say it isn’t!
We estimate the Buick Olds with the 4 speed were only 2-3% of the production so good luck finding one three on the tree maybe ten to fifteen percent
I have a 63 comet s22 convertible with the 170 And mercomatic. Definitely agree with the lack of power.. Style to be proud of, performance not…!!!
The Falcon’s styling is about my favorite, but technically, I’d probably go for the Tempest.
The Lark looks like it’s about to fold in half due to the misfortunate dip in the beltline in the rear doors.
Hmmmmmmm let’s set the way-back machine…
It’s 1962 and I’m a 35 year old elementary principal living here in the rugged west with my new wife (the second one… the scandal!) and looking to start a family. I want to drop my coin on a new wagon for the soon to be family.
The Corvair is tempting if you had a time machine I would know that someday (after the wagon body style is cancelled) you could upgrade the wagon with improved rear suspension, 6 cyl turbo engine, and 4 speed manual. That would be SWEET! But that would require some foreknowledge that I would not have. Down goes the Corvair…
For me it comes down to the Tempest vs. the Valiant.
Pontiac Tempest… well I would have ordered the V8 – naturally. Were the aluminum V8s issues high speed cooling issues or low speed cooling issues? You know I’m gonna drive the 20 miles down to Route 66 and crisscross the country with the family during the summers. My wife FYI would want the manual transmission if available with the V8.
Plymouth Valiant – I would have accepted the leaning tower of power and Torqueflite trans. Nicely optioned model. Sure it’s a “visually interesting” car but I’ve always liked Momma Mopar’s more outlandish designs. Ohhhhhhhhh and then some hot rod goodies for the slant six after any warranties expire.
I’m torn guys…
You are thinking the same as me- the Corvair is where my heart goes, but these still had a way to go before they became ‘great’ cars. Sadly, by ’65, there was no longer an estate.
The Valiant it has to be- with a 225 and hyperpack.
The Corvair is engineering for engineering’s sake, the Valiant is engineering that works.
…of course, I would also probably drive into the Big City to check out the little shack that sells Saabs and test drive a 95 2-stroke…. This would then lead me to rationalize that the Corvair is actually a sensible car, leaving me back where I started!
On my way back to the bucolic burbs and heading for the local Chevy dealer, I would then pass by the friendly Volvo dealer, where the shiny new Amazon wagon was parked up. The practicality of the Valiant, but without bits falling off? Why its the next best thing to a Checker Marathon wagon- and it looks the same too. Best of all, the exchange rates make this thing nearly as cheap as a well optioned Lancer, but with so much more class.
I roll.
Don’t forget the Travelall at the IH place.
FWIW my wife just discovered IH pickups (one was sitting at the neighbors for a few weeks, he tends to flip classics) it was a VERY brick like 70s model and SHE WANTS ONE!
She’d take a Travelall with every conceivable option but keep the manual trans. I can just hear her rowing thru the gears on the way to pick up the kids. Toughest momma on the block. 😛
Get her one. I’d suggest the 72-3 1010 for its torsion bar IFS and disc brakes. If you want 4wd then the 74 100 or 75 150 since it too has disc brakes and since they are the same as used on the Scout II and 77-8 CJ all those parts are still available and at reasonable prices. I’d stay away from the 74-5 200 since many of their rotors are made of unobtainium, like the 2wd 74-5 trucks. You’ll have a better chance of finding a 4 or even 5sp in the 4wd trucks since the 1010 was sold as the family wagon/trailer tow rig most of them were equipped with the TF727 but they also were more likely to get all the goodies like AC, power steering, Custom exterior package (for wood grain and bright trim) and Custom interior package (for carpeting and buckets with storage console/armrest)
Dan: Does your wife have any friends or relatives in a slightly younger age group with similar tastes (in cars)? 😉
Oddly… yes. 😛
Let us not forget, also…WILLYS MOTORS.
Which just introduced the sleeper model of 1962…the ‘Jeep’ Wagoneer. Yup, that’s how the company stylized Jeep…with single quotation marks, in all its literature.
The Wagoneer was the stealth giant: It arrived almost unnoticed; it had the first OHC engine in any full-size class; and while GM was to bloat, Ford was to broughamize and rapid-rust, while Chrysler was to fritter away its legacy and finally its assets…the Wagoneer outlived three parent companies. Unchanged but for grilles, appointments, and options, the Waggy enjoyed a longer sales run than any car, domestic or imported, in this country (the Beetle actually had a longer production run from its 1946 beginnings; but it was four years arriving Stateside).
Lark died; the Binders retreated to farm, truckstop and junkyard…but the Wagoneer kept on selling. It was theoretically possible for a Willys worker to start out as a kid on the Wagoneer line and be building the exact same car (for Chrysler by that time) when he became eligible for retirement.
By ’62, was it still Willys or was Jeep owned by Kaiser then? I remember going to the “Kaiser Building” in Oakland right around then (we have pictures of that excursion, and I look about 5 or 6) and seeing the new Wagoneer (no pics of the Jeep though). I also remember going to an Asian trade exhibit in the San Francisco Ferry Building around that same time and seeing a Nissan Patrol on display.
Kaiser-Frazer purchased Willys-Overland in 1954.
They folded Kaiser (Frazer was discontinued with the departure of Joe Frazer) into Willys and discontinued both Kaiser and Willys passenger cars. The remnant business was styled “Willys Motors, Inc.”
“Willys” was the name Jeep was working under until 1963, when it was reorganized as Kaiser ‘Jeep’ Corporation. By that time the head powers at the top of the Kaiser conglomerate (Henry was retired and ill and was to die in 1967) wanted more public prominence. It was the era of Kaiser Broadcasting, Kaiser Permanente (which ceased being an in-house medical plan to compete with Blue Cross) and the various other Kaiser industrial businesses.
The original Wagoneer is shorter than a Chevy II wagon.
I’d probably go with the Valiant, although I am attracted to the idea of “Wagon Jazz”…(and given the apparent cult following of Falcons lately, I might be more likely to find one in running condition).
The Chevy II is definitely a “man’s wagon”, especially given that once that swordfish has been in there, no woman of the time would want to drive or ride in it again. 😉
Good memory, Laurence – my family indeed had that 61 F-85 wagon. (Or am I just repeating myself to frequently – advancing age?) My mother loved the car, but did not love periodically sitting along the side of the road with the hood up while the 215 cid hunk of alloy cooled itself off. The Olds was a mighty tidy package, but if it were me in 1962, I am far from an early adopter, so any of the strange, modern stuff would never make it into my garage. There go the Corvair and the BOP wagons. Also, AMC just never did much for me. I will pass on them as well.
The Falcon and Comet are nice, but the mechanicals of the Mopar twins are so much more compelling. But that Stude with a trusted V8 — hmmmm.
I guess this would be the point where I start bobbing between the Chry-Ply, Dodge and Stude dealers, seeing who wants my business more. “I don’t care if I drive out in this car or not, in fact, there are two others that I am looking at and the wife likes the colors better on those. But I’m a fair guy and wanted to give you a shot at selling a car, so what can you do for me.” I would imagine that with the kind of year both Chrysler and Studebaker were having in 1962, those 3 dealers would probably have made it a dogfight. And the Chry-Ply guy might have had a fighting chance to upsell me into a Fury wagon – just a little more money and trimmer than a Ford or Chevy big wagon.
Edit – it just occurs to me that I have made a decision on a family car without even consulting Mrs. JPC. Wait – it’s 1962, so I guess that doesn’t matter. 🙂 My life sure doesn’t work like that now.
Interesting subject. My parents bought a new wagon in ’62 when I was 6 years old. Being the car nut of the family, I was involved in some of the shopping and remember it well. I recall looking at the Chrysler products, and the Ramblers (I still have the sales brochures). I don’t recall looking at any Fords or GM products. I believe we were not looking so much in the compact size, but more of an intermediate size. That market was just beginning to emerge. The Studebaker and the Rambler Classic were all that was available that fit that size. Ford introduced the Fairlane that year, but a wagon was not available until ’63. We lived in Anchorage, Alaska at the time, and the small compacts did not do so well in the heavy snow and rough roads. We bought a baby blue Lark, with a 6 cylinder and automatic transmission. It served us well for several years. I recall we made many trips in it.
Looking back, I would have made in similar decision, except I would prefer the V8. If I wanted a pure compact, I would have gone with the Valiant. I like the engineering advantage of the Chrysler products of that era, and the styling was different without being weird. The Ford’s were good, basic cars, as well as the Chevy II. The other GM’s had quirky, almost experimental engineering, that did not work out so well in the long term. Good days that are long gone.
Thanks for bringing up the subject.
In 1962 I was still a poor graduate student who could barely afford the 1950 Ford convertible I was driving at the time. Looking back on it now I like to think I’d go for the Valiant or Lancer wagon, but in reality my days as a Mopar guy were still several years in the future.
Like JP, I am far from an early adopter, too. I want something tried, tested and not going to cost me an arm and a leg in unscheduled repairs.
From a engineering standpoint, the Valiant should be my driver, hands down. However I just can’t get past the Martian the Martian styling. I can picture Rocky the Raccoon driving one with Bullwinkle passed out in the back, dead drunk. An added demerit is the Valiant was known as a real ruster here in Canuckistan, not that the other brands were much better. In Quebec, any of these cars was junk in five years.
I would therefore want something fairly cheap to buy, with a good, proven drivetrain. I never liked the Falcon motor. The three bearing crank made the engine feel strained most of the time and the 101 (gross) hp really doesn’t cut it. That leaves the Chevy II for me. The Stovebolt Six is a real classic, especially when teamed to the Powerglide. The Six made great low end torque and was ideally suited to the Powerglide.
I have driven quite a few Chevy II’s of various iterations, and I have always thought them a good, honest car. In those days, buying a Chevy was like buying a Honda today: the safe bet. Nothing going to wow you or blow your socks off, just a good, basic, reliable car that doesn’t cost a fortune.
I’ll have mine in red, please!
There are 4 main bearings in a Falcon 6.
Falcon 144 & 170 had 4 main bearings; 200 & 250 had 7.
I stand corrected but if memory serves me right, the Stovebolt of the era had seven and was, in my experience, a very smooth and tough motor.
Actually, the Chevy II’s six was the brand new Turbo Thrift six, not generally called Stovebolt anymore, although perhaps some apply that to all Chevy sixes?
The ’62 full-sized Chevys still had the old six, for the last year, before it got the enlarged (230 inch) version of the Chevy II motor.
It doesn’t matter what advertising name GM’s PR department tried to use to jazz it up; a Chevy six looked & sounded (and performed) like a Chevy six from start to finish.
And then there’s that (in)famous “Clunk-Clunk-Clunk” sound of the Powerglide being shifted from drive to park, then the “OOOOUUUUU” moaning sound of the PG/six cylinder engine at idle…..
My Aunt frequently commented that she needed several cups of strong coffee before driving her “Gosh Dang Dead Dull Chevy II” anywhere. It lasted for over 15 years, with very low mileage, because nobody in the extended family wanted to drive that “Snore Machine”.
For what it’s worth the Chrysler slant sixes all had four main bearings. They were good sized bearings to be sure but these engines were engineered and built for low speed torque and not high RPMs.
I beg to differ. The stock 170 slant six would rev to 6,000rpm in optimum tune. With the Hyperpak option, it would rev even faster. These engines were famous for their relative high output potential at higher revs.
Four bearings does not in any way make an engine slow-revving in principle. Plenty of European high performance sixes had 4 main bearings. The benefit of 7 main bearings is in that it has the potential to run a bit smoother, but not necessarily faster. Rev potential is all about the breathing of the heads and the corresponding tuning (cam, etc.)
Even the long stroke 225 /6 could be made to rev quite well.
My parents had owned both an automatic ’60 Valiant wagon in white and a tan ’64 Nova wagon with the 194 and a stick on the column.
Since I bleed Bowties there’s no other choice. The Chevy II would be an attractive driver for me today if it weren’t for the two projects I currently own. Make mine a stick, of course!
I’d have to go with the Scout, anything less is just a car. However if the wife wouldn’t go for that and it was for her to put around in then likely the Comet or a V6 Buick.
I guess I should cast my vote…. so…..
The Falcon and Comet are automatically off the list since they want me to pay extra money for the amount of horsepower that’s standard in the Valiant/Lancer.
The Nova, given the 194 6 splits the difference in performance between a 170 and a 225 slant six does it no favors either. The fact that it’s very Chevy Plain Jane, when there’s starting to be more luxurious small options is strike two. Strike 3 is that 2 speed powerglide that doesn’t fare well against the Valiant.
Everything said about the Monza wagon rings true. In 1968 or so, when the aftermarket support could make this a real fun dancer makes it seem more viable. But it’s 1962, and I’m buying new. The first gen Corvair wasn’t fully baked until ’64, and there’s still too many compromises on my mind. And depending on what part of the year of 1962, Ernie Kovack’s spin out might still be on my mind.
The Valiant and Lancer get my “most bang for the buck” pang going, but, again, their creature comforts and fit and finish lag behind the majority of the competition. And if I could get a V8…. why not. The American…. and the Classic are super old utilitarian designs. The American still has a flathead for chrissakes. I’ll probably not know then that the basic design dates from 1950…. but that flathead…
Which leaves me between the Lark, and the B-O-P sisters. The lark, while charming, compact and well finished, is a bit pricey for a car that hadn’t changed much since ’59, again I probably wouldn’t have figured out that underneath it’s the same car from 1953. We’re a year from the Wagonnaire to boot. I’m not partial to Four Cylinders and have heard bad stories about the “Trophy Four” when out of tune, so off goes the Tempest Safari.
So that leaves us with the Special and the F-85. The Special has that all new, unproven V6 that sounds like it’s skipping jump rope. Also the Special is a bit too busy in styling, more so than the sedans and coupes. So we have my Oldsmobile Loyalties shining through. I agree with JP’s Mom, I’d fall in love with the F-85 Deluxe wagon.
Enjoyable decision making, Laurence. Mom would approve.
Plus, in 1962, only some crackpot conspiracy theorist would entertain the idea that GM could put out an imperfect car. This was General Motors, after all. So, you (in 1962) would be completely safe in assuming that the General’s drivetrains would not give you a lick of trouble. With that assumption safely in hand, the Olds would look like a pretty smart choice. I think that it is by far the best looking of the bunch. Ours was maroon, white roof, whitewalls and dog dish hubcaps.
And yup, this must be just like 1962 where I and maybe one other person are even remotely willing to consider the Lark.
It’s weird because I think detail wise the Olds carried the 4 door B-O-P bodies better (more taut and dramatic) than the Buick. But the Buick did the Convertible and Coupe slightly better. The Tempest, oddly seemed a little soft to me in detail….
I also have to admit, growing up a few really old Roto-Hydramatic cars, that I absolutely love their gear whine/fluid coupling gurgle sound. They actually sounded like rockets. Again, buying new, I wouldn’t have known it was a really horrible transmission.
The Lark would be my 2nd Choice, considering it did have the biggest optional V8 available, nifty styling and a laundry list of options.
Funny you mention Ernie Kovac’s spin out. In the summer of ’78 I was 15 and couldn’t wait to drive. My parents had inherited a ’62 Corvair wagon. Man, it was ugly, paintbrushed maroon. But it ran good and was tagged. They rarely used it, and I knew where the keys were. You know where this is going? While they were at work, I joy-rided a few times. Until I took a right turn a little too fast. That rear-end swung around so fast, on dry pavement, I nearly soiled myself. Got it back home, and never drove it again. Scared straight. Until I started sneaking the ’68 Rebel out while they slept…
For my money, it’d be a tossup between a Valiant and a Microbus. Practically speaking, I think the other logical choice is the non-Squire Falcon. Didn’t Kaiser introduce the Wagoneer in ’62, tho?
The Wagoneer came out in 63, but you could still get the tried and true Willys-style Jeep steel wagon.
History on this is convoluted – Wikipedia and some other sites insist the Wagoneer came out as a 1963; but I recall ads out of 1962 publications (my mother saved some National Geographic and other magazine issues; there was something of interest to her going on about then) for the “All New, All Jeep” Wagoneer.
Remember, too, model years weren’t codified into law or regulations at that point. Many states titled a car as the year the chassis was first titled by a private owner. IH didn’t even use model years; and I believe Jeep was cagey on model years back then, also. Only safety and emissions laws and regulations made model years written in stone, with identifying characters in VINs.
So it may have been a mid-year 1962 introduction.
As time goes by it becomes increasingly easy to forget what slugs the Microbuses were. On one trip from Chicago to Springfield, Illinois in my friends ’65 would slow to 35 mph (56 kph) on the gradual rises one encountered on I-55. On a hot summer day this was no fun. That’s when I learned to draft semis. Life was much more fun at 60.
Got to go Buick Special with the Fireball V6.
They shook and rattled like a out of balance washing machine. It didn’t get smoother until the 1978 Even fire
Being a safety minded sort, I wonder what the safest cars on the road would be at that time…Volvo Amazon, certainly… What other wagons offered anything resembling a nod to safety concerns?
Oh, come on, Jeremiahmusic. Safety, schmafety. It’s 1962. Have another cigarette and pour another Manhattan before you hit the road. And for cripe sake, don’t fasten that seatbelt – you’re much safer getting thrown clear in an accident. The best safety equipment is a powerful engine that will get you out of trouble if it happens.
Anybody who was alive back then heard all this and more. 🙂
Ahh, those were the days. I can recall my dad, bless his soul, sucking on a beer in a paper cup, though a straw. For him that was part of the Road Trip experience.
I also remember hearing how dangerous seat belts were and that was in the 1970’s, when the first seat belt laws came in.
As much as I love old iron, the safety issue is the main reason I don’t have an old car. I rather like air bags, ABS and four wheel disk brakes, thanks.
Old cars are such a blast, the “safety” issue has to be overlooked. One can carry the safety issue to where one dares not leave the house. Depending on the vehicle, one can safely drive a model T around the neighborhood, or drive the 1966 Cadillac on the interstate
Touché! 😉 while I guess the Manhattan-smoking folks were the norm, I remember my mom said her pop had to custom order seatbelts in their 59 Chrysler… lots of stories like that. But coming from a neurotic New York family, that was my line of thought…
I guess I was also thinking along the lines of that MacNamara piece a few weeks ago… Must have been a few companies actively touting safety in ’62, no? Esp. in light of the Kovacs thing and early Naderesque rumblings…
I remember a Bill Cosby line from the 60s railing about safety belts. “They don’t care about peoples’ safety. The ambulance drivers are just too lazy to look for the body.”
All kidding aside, I was in one of the few families that were religious about seat belt use. We always wore them, and I have continued to. My 59 Plymouth Fury had them and I wore them. But not everyone agreed. When I bought my 68 Newport back in the 90s, all of the seat belts except the shoulder belts were gone. As I was thinking about where to get replacements, I happened to remove the back seat cushion, and there they all were – neatly folded up all next to each other. Some old timer hated them so much he removed them and hid them. I’m just glad he didn’t throw them out, because I spent an evening putting them all back in.
Ford had tried selling safety in the 50’s touting their “Life Guard Design” and it was a huge flop. So it took awhile before mfgs actively sold safety again.
That was the 1956 line. Better door latches, deep dish steering wheel, optional padded dash and seat belts. Independents like Kaiser had been touting some of this stuff and other safety ideas for some years.
My father had a 1962 Falcon wagon. It was the car he had when I was born. It had a 3 speed manual, but I don’t know whether it had the 144 or 170. He had it until late 1969, when he bought a 1970 Fairlane 500 wagon with a 302 and 3 speed manual. I know the Falcon had only about 90,000 miles and was running only on 4 or 5 cylinders when he traded it in.
I like the roll-down window in the tailgate of the Buick, but I’m not so sure about the V6. They weren’t that great 30 years later. So that or the Valiant.
In Australia the July 1962 Holden EJ model wagon came out with an all-new body but still the old 138ci ‘grey’ six (75hp). 105″ wb, 177″ length, 2500lb but designed to be flogged on unmade roads. The wagon missed out on the top Premier trim, which had leather seats.
On the other hand if we are going with US-style model years, we would be looking at the previous EK model, that looks like it came from the 1950’s (because it did…). and The Ford Falcon wagon was different here, with less rear overhang – the same as the sedan’s. Chrysler didn’t sell Valiant wagons yet.
Yeah it took till 63 for a dowsized Chevy2 engine to find its way to Holden the 149/179 red motors, The early Falcon was junk but in NZ we also got the Zephyr must more robust and could be had in wagon. OZ still had Zephyrs but they were being phased out to accomodate the inferior Falcon, Valiants were not available in wagons untill the AP5/6 models. Small wagons were on hand mostly from BMC,Hillman, Ford UK, Vauxhall but these all had 4 cylinder engines so dont fit the criteria, we had a vastly different market to the US then.
I disagree with your assessment of the Buick V6. My ’88 Olds had the Buick 3800 and I put 176,000 miles (283,000 km) on it. Great engine with surprisingly good fuel economy.
The V-6 of 1988 a far different animal than the 1962 version
Now that’s a tough choice of wagons. I know the Valiant would run forever if treated with even a little respect, but who’d want to wake up to that every morning? Coyote ugly on wheels. I love Corvairs but the wagons just don’t do it for me. So it’s the Falcon or the Chevy II. I’m a Chevy guy at heart, but my buddy’s Mom had a Falcon Squire of this vintage when we were little kids and she was the “neighbourhood mom” type. So I associate these cars with trips to the beach, rides to hockey/lacrosse/baseball, ice cream and such and that’s what these little wagons were for IMHO. The little Squire served well for a long time, and unfortunately outlived our neighbourhood mom who did enjoy her cigarettes and booze.
So I gotta go with the sentimental favourite and pick the Ford.
In 1964 my dad bought by Mom a lightly used black ’62 Buick Special with red interior, the V-6, and Powerglide. Dad had raced cars a decade before and was an advocate for safety equipment in racing cars, so it was natural that all our cars got at least seat belts. I say “at least” because he went one better with the Buick: he had lap and shoulder belts installed, which was highly unusual for the time.The shoulder belts were mounted in those nice vertical B- and C-pillars. The silver, dish-shaped bolt heads were visible outside the car, contrasting visibly with the black paint. Both lap and shoulder belts were similar to those found in aircraft, and in fact the latches sported the logo of the Irvin Parachute Company.
I was in the Cub Scouts at the time. All the moms had wagons, but only ours had shoulder belts, and they had parachute logos to boot! Needless to say, every boy in the Scouts thought this was wicked cool. They would flight over who got to ride in our car. Mom would not start moving until everyone was fully buckled up. I remember having to show the other kids how to do it, as most of them had no prior experience with seat belts, never mind shoulder belts. I’d like to think that those little Irvin logos planted positive feelings towards using belts, but we’ll never know.
Wow, some interesting choices. First scratch the Studebaker and the AMC, they were too dated. The Chevy II looked promising, but all the trim and interiors looked really cheap-and the single leaf rear springs were questionable-it was almost as if GM was broadcasting a none too subtle remark: “I’m too cheap to drive a REAL car!” The Corvair had weight distribution issues that made it not very suitable as a hauler, the Buick aluminum v-8 was of questionable realiabillity and the V-6 was simply too rough, especially at idle. That leaves me to choose between the Falcon and the Valiant, I’d probably take the Chrysler because of the slant six, probably the best engine of the group.
Easy choice. 1962? Dad’s the local Chevy dealer. It’s between the Corvair and the Chevy II. If I’m buying, it’s the Corvair. If it’s a company car that’ll be traded in on a ’63, it’s the Chevy II (easier resale).
And as dad is the Chevy dealer, all those other “alternatives” are nothing more than complete crap, bought only by the fools, idiots, and suckers. ESPECIALLY the Falcon.
Even if your dad was the local Chevy dealer, a lot of other folks would agree with him about the “alternatives”. GM was the old Toyota. 🙂
I’d have to go for a Studebaker or something from American Motors. A Checker Marathon would be good too. I’m a sucker for the independent auto makers.
Of course, if I had to choose from the big three, I’d have to take either a Buick or a Valiant.
I remember that when I was very young (I’m going to say 4, which would make it 1967) our next-door neighbors had a Lancer wagon. I had already become interested in cars, and even at that young age I was fascinated by the weirdness of those small windows behind the rear doors, and the reverse angle of the larger rear side windows. It wasn’t until quite a bit later that I realized how rare a car it must have been.
When I see these cars gathered together in one post like this, it drives home how practical they were, and how fun it would be to have one today. There’s something about the boxiness of the Chevy II that speaks to me, but my grandfather was an Oldsmobile man and I really like the looks of that F-85.
Ok, I’ll play. I skimmed some comments, but I don’t have time to read all 40.
Guys. Let’s get real. These cars are for your wife to take the kids to scout meetings and for going to the supermarket. The little woman does not want a 4 spd. She doesn’t want a 3 spd. She wants a slushbox, and she doesn’t much care how many gears it has, so long as she doesn’t have to work a clutch pedal. The car will be equipped with an automatic, or your aren’t getting any for a long time. If you want a four speed you better plan on being a two car family.
Mechanically, the Mopars are by far the best of the bunch. Slant 6 and Torqueflight, and torsion bars. But maybe we know this mostly from hindsight, and it isn’t so obvious in ’62. The Mopars are so unrelentingly ugly that it’s hard to even consider them, despite the solid mechanicals.
The Corvair makes little sense as a wagon, given that the engine is under the load floor. Hard to work on, hard to service, can’t have a 3rd row seat. OTOH, it does have both a “way back” and a trunk up front. But really, if you need the cargo capacity, just get a Biscayne.
Chevy II is a good choice. Unibody and solid sensible mechanicals. Chevy is not experimental division, so no worries about untested technology. But again, this is ’62, and who really doubts the General’s technical capabilities? I don’t see a compelling and at the same time realistic reason for choosing one of the other GM wagons over the Chevy II. By realistic I mean your wife doesn’t want a Tempest with a 4 spd.
The Fords are solid and soulless miniaturized versions of the bigger Fords. Given the real purpose of these cars – PTA meetings, groceries, orthodontist visits – the Falcon/Comet is a good choice.
Stude is on it’s way out, and anyone paying attention in ’62 knows this. Who wants a car with no dealer support? Besides, it’s 9 years old while it’s sitting in the showroom.
The Rambler would make sense if one was in the market for a little bit bigger wagon, such as the Classic series. These can be rather nicely equipped -by the standard of the day- and make a nice alternative to the “cheapness” that seems to permeate the offerings from the other manufacturers. Unfortunately we are asked to choose not the Classic, but the American, and this car is also a decade, or more, old as it sits on the sales floor, and it just screams Cheap!
So, if I absolutely must choose among these offerings, I’ll go with the Falcon.
In real life of course, people don’t have to choose only cars within a particular “classification”. If I really need a wagon, then I really don’t need a compact one. I need at least an intermediate, if not full sized. Why don’t I just get a Biscayne with a straight 6 and a slush box? If I can’t quite pony up for a full sized car, I’d take a look at the new intermediate sized Fairlane. But if I’m looking at a car that size, then we are back to the Rambler Classic.
> Guys. Let’s get real. These cars are for your wife to take the kids to scout meetings and for going to the supermarket. The little woman does not want a 4 spd.
You didn’t read principaldan’s comment about his wife, did you? 🙂 Why not go to scout meetings in a Scout!
CarCounter: Yup, my thoughts also.
A Valiant long roof, with the bigger “Leaning Tower Of Power” slant six engine, push button THREE SPEED (unlike the others!) Torqueflite automatic transmission, dealer add-on Mopar “Airtemp” air conditioning and power steering would make for a vehicle that both me and “The Little Lady” would be content to drive and ride in.
Well the Studebaker had a 3 speed automatic too, though it typically started in 2nd (as did the old Ford-O-Matic of the 50s). But a 4 bbl 289 V8 in front of it (way more power than available in any of the others) could make that second-gear-start less of an issue. 🙂
I had a Studebaker with the “Start in second gear” 3 speed automatic. It was quite…leisurely…when taking off from a stop light.
Lotsa Luck getting any money out of that Studie wagon 5 years later!
I still say Volvo amazon- it was designed with your wife in mind as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6evy_yokfog
To be realistic, most “little women” back in early 60’s could drive a stick, since they were still fairly common. Automatics were still a luxury, and not standard in family cars until the 70’s.
Even fictional TV character “Aunt Bee” had an early 50’s Ford convertible with a standard. She told Goober the “intermediate gear was sticking” after she learned to drive.
My mom could work a clutch and shifter as well as anyone.
Yes, so could my Mother.
BUT
She didn’t ….want …to drive a stick shift.
Willys Jeep Wagon. Even though it isn’t in the list. ‘Nuff Said.
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Our neighbors down the street bought the ’62 Tempest wagon, replacing a ’53-ish Ford. Our neighbors up the street bought the Lancer, but not a wagon (replacing a ’53-ish Chevy). They must have kept the Lancer a while because I remember driving it in high school: Slant Six and pushbutton transmission with the weird little Park lever. At the time, I really had a soft spot for Chevy II’s and after 50 years it has aged well. The Falcon Sprints (Monte Carlo Rally!) were cool, but the wagon just looks boring. But my vote would be for a Studebaker with the sliding top. In fact, I got one – a Matchbox version. My parents had a Volvo 544 in 1962, but replaced it two years later with a 122S (Amazon) wagon. No rear belts in the 122 wagon … we added them much later.
I hate to rain on your new car fever (1962 style) but you would have to wait till next year for a Stude Wagonaire. Those did not come out until 1963. We did one here.
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-1963-studebaker-lark-wagonaire-a-real-vista-for-the-cruiser/
Suddenly that Valiant wagon looks like the most contemporary classic all. It contains so many 2012 design cues: the illogical C-pillar, narrower at the bottom; the irrelevant superficial doodles on the front and rear fenders. If you parked this between any Hyundai and a Nissan Juke, it would look like a multigenerational family of egregious overstyling.
I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a stock Lark wagon before. It looks….melted?
My family had at different times a Falcon wagon and a Rambler American sedan. The Rambler was head and shoulders a better driving, better built, more substantial car. It’s the only car among half a dozen early/mid-60’s family haulers that I remember with something like respect. And yet it lacked a sense of mainstream style that seemed so important at the time.
Our neighbours, on the other hand, had a Volvo Canadian (122), sharing garage space with a Mercedes fintail. Definitely not mainstream at the time – in fact the cars and the neighbours seemed a little weird. I mean, they could have had a Buick for God’s sake. And the Buick would have been so much bigger! And then a few years later when I was in university I became infatuated with Volvo 544’s, owning two of them. They were my first experiences of real automotive bonding (and bondo).
These are the kinds of memories/experiences/emotions/lessons that can imprint you for life, for better or worse. So my personal fantasy is going down to the Volvo dealer and picking out a brand new 122 wagon, and still having it.
I was almost 30 when my Mom sold our 122 wagon (for the same price she paid for it new) in 1986. At the time, I was urging her to get a more modern, safer car (she bought a 240DL wagon) and had no interest in keeping an old car which had been in our family for 22 years (and I had owned my own 122 for a few years in college). Now I’m kicking myself for not keep that car in the family forever. My sister has been looking longingly at a 544 with a for sale sign in her area.
I have to go with the Lark wagon, though I’d be happy with any of these wagons. The Lakewood is my second choice.
Tom, as much as I did (and still do) admire the “LM” second generation Corvairs; the early models just weren’t all that great. A loaded down EM Corvair station wagon was a tumpy, twitchy, evil handling car.
My Mother’s best friend had one of these; she referred to it as “The Tugboat”.
My 1st car is/was a 63 Falcon wagon (long top as I refer to it as). I got to choose what I wanted. This was 1999. I still have the car today, its been off the road since 2002, but with pop’s retiring in January, he’s making it his priority to get “Bad Bird” back on the road for the 2013 summer crusin schedule.
Wonder how much money GM lost on the Y bodies? Only 3 years and lots of unique parts and drivetrains. And they spent $ for 1963 style change, for only one year.
Cars to admire, on paper, but not much “fun” to own long term. Uncle got a ’61 Special and it had issues, so much so that he switched to ’65 Plymouth Fury, and stayed Mopar till RIP.
Hmm, I’d have to choose the Tempest wagon. Not too fond of any of these.
My own experience was with a ’62 Valiant wagon that my dad bought for me in 1971. It had the 170 engine, with Torqueflite; it really needed the 225. Still, the car got me through college (after hauling home one last artifact from high school, a desk I built in wood shop class), and the wagon space made hauling all kinds of stuff easier. Unfortunately, the front end was severely clobbered in an accident, and we ended up transferring the engine into a ’61 Dodge Lancer wagon. That one had the three-on-the-floor stick shift, but it was still anemic with the 170. I don’t miss either one of them.
If you want to experience “anemic” try merging onto a crowded highway with either the loaded down Falcon or Chevy II station wagons equipped with their smooth but power robbing 2 speed automatic transmissions.
And endure the screaming of that little Falcon six before it clunks into the only other ratio it has – etched into my brain like it was yesterday.
Our family parade of Ramblers was momentarily broken in 1966 with the purchase of a baby blue ’62 Falcon wagon. With ink still wet on my driver license, the Fordomatic great leap forward became etched in my brain too.
I beat the snot out of that Falcon trying to race other cars that rarely noticed I was trying to race. After the Falcon’s untimely demise (not at my hands), I was hopeful for a real car. Instead my dad bought another used Rambler. The Rambler was a stick. It could chirp a back tire (aided by a sharp turn or starting on wet leaves) if you tried hard enough. Even neutral drops couldn’t coax a similar chirp out of the Falcon.
The Rambler’s infinitesimal performance advantage over the Falcon wasn’t enough to overcome the fact it was high school date-proof. Girls hated the image. Fathers hated the reclining seats. I visualized Frank Zappa conjuring up a mental image of a Rambler as he sang “I’m losing status at the high school.”
The Falcon and the Rambler are probably the 2 worst choices, but unlike the others, both hold memories for me – and isn’t that what this is all about?
Falcon in a photo finish over the Rambler.
IIRC: expressway merging in a Ford-o-Matic Falcon was quicker if you did NOT use the foot-to-the-floor kickdown to low gear; just slowly & smoothly stepped on the gas pedal to 98% of the throttle linkage travel? (and fervently prayed to the Holy Mother Of Acceleration)
It seemed like the overloaded, overburdened station wagon actually slowed down slightly; in spite of all the guttural bleating noise the powertrain made.
Back in the 1990s when I lived in West Palm Beach if I were taking my ’64 Falcon on to I-95 I would always slowly and smoothly accelerate the gas pedal to reach the proper highway speed. If I slammed my foot on the gas pedal the car was more likely to quit than accelerate. (The car runs better now than it did 20 years ago, btw).
I reckon I should add I also had no passengers to weigh down Cheapo Falcon. If, by some unusual circumstance, I had a car full of folks with me and I was endeavouring to get on said expressway I might ask them — with a sinister vocal intonation — if they had life insurance . . . and if it was paid up! Muhahahaha!
Styling wise, one of the Chevy’s for sure. The engineer in me goes for the Valiant. Both Corvair and the Mopar’s have a more “premium” look to me, with quad headlights and nice trim for low-end brands. Sorry, the di-noc equipped Falcon Squire does nothing for me.
A year later, dad bought the newly restyled Rambler Classic Cross Country. Lots of safety features, V-8 (first year), three speed automatic (BW, I think) in a mid-sized package.
Gotta say that I am enjoying reading all the varying opinions and rationalizations on this thread!
Dodge Lancer 770 with a 225 and Torqueflite, PS, PB, etc. The “odd” styling of those cars makes them look actually modern by today’s “odd” standards.
Though I tend to favor the independents, the styling of the Valiant/Lancer wagons appeals to my sense of the bizarre and the engineering is probably the best of of the bunch.
A nod to the Rambler American for having a dual-circuit master cylinder despite the car otherwise being a 1950 Nash Rambler. (I think Studebaker was also an early adopter for dual master but not sure if they had it in 1962.)
The Studebaker with a v8 ahead of a 3 and over. One could probably con your local dealer into ordering it with the 289 and 4v, maybe even twin traction. 2nd choice would either go to an overhead rambler or one of the Mopars.
I”m a diehard Falcon guy, and so can’t be objective. Perhaps I’d have found a crystal ball that’d say “wait until 1964” for the next-gen Falcon, and so bought a used car to string us along a couple more interim years.
I saw the Valiant ad and immediately recognized the pun–referencing an 1898 Irish-stereotype pop tune given new life in the postwar years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Threw_the_Overalls_in_Mrs._Murphy%27s_Chowder
Thinking strictly in year-span, that’d be like an advertising pun on some 1954 pop-C&W-EarlyElvis tune’s lyrics, I suppose…
Among the listed choices, Valiant or Lancer w/ 225, ps, a/c and automatic. I was shocked by how nicely those drove, and that drivetrain was rock solid. I would have justified tolerating it’s styling because of its mechanical excellence. In a non-wagon I would have looked longingly at the Corvair, but they didn’t have handling sorted out yet and the wagon was known to be the worst model in that regard.
I was enthralled by imports, though, and would have had to look hard at the Saab and Volvo. In spite of my love of 2-stroke marine engines, I hope I would have been turned off by the Saab’s need for freewheeling. I probably wouldn’t have been able to find a Peugeot dealer, but the 404 wagon would have been a strong contender if available. I would have whined and complained about VW not sending us the Squareback and then either bought the Volvo for its handling, overdrive, rugged reputation and un-commoness or the Valiant for its smoothness, ruggedness, wife-pleasing Torqueflight and larger dealer network.
Since a couple of people had mentioned the Valiant/Lancer as being the most contemporary, I worked one up with integral bumpers and the obligatory “I’m-not-a-wagon-I-swear” window tint and lift kit;
Yes nlpnt! Now I want one of those!
I’m a big jazz fan. I’ll buy the Falcon Squire wagon on the basis of the “Wagon Jazz” ad.
On the other hand, that “odd” styling on the Valient grows on me.
Gotta say I love the Tempest by far the most, if only for its mechanical quirks and oddities, courtesy of John DeLorean.
But would your wife (the intended user of this car) agree with you, after a few months?
I wondering if the Buick Special’s 215 aluminum V8 engine/2 speed automatic powertrain would have any more or less “Real World” power than the Slant Six/3 speed Torqueflite automatic powertrain in the Valiant station wagon?
Found a R/T test ’62 Skylark sedan 215 V8 auto 0-60 10.7 (10.2 4 speed stick)
Found M/T test ’63 Valiant convertible 225 auto 0-60 15.9
Found M/T test ’61 Valiant sedan 170 auto 0-60 16.1
Found Special Interest Auto test ’60 Valiant sedan 170 3 speed stick 0-60 17.2
Let’s see… the Falcon and Comet wagons were snoozers so I’ll pass on them, though I’m amused that the Falcon advert felt a need to stress that the woodgrain was in fact steel and not real wood that needed to be varnished regularly; I guess real woodies were still fresh in peoples’ minds in 1962. The Chevy II looks so tall and ungainly despite being the only new model here, and there’s (intentionally) nothing that stands out about its engineering or packaging.
The Valiant may be the best engineered here with the slant 6 (was the aluminum version still available?) and available pushbutton Torqueflite. It also has the funkiest styling here, but I actually like it better than on the sedans. That little triangular window behind the rear door, the wraparound rear side glass, the curvy windshield all sort of work here. The Dodge variant looks even weirder and not as pure, with the chrome accents not matching the bulges they’re affixed to. Let’s add this one as a possible contender.
The Corvair wagon is the most interesting here; I’m intrigued by the practicality of having not only the usual rear cargo area but also an enclosed front trunk. The rear-engine configuration probably gave it the best snow traction here. There may not have been room for a third row seat, but the flat floor free of driveshaft or exhaust humps made the front and rear center seating positions comfortable. Given how infamously voracious the GM cost-cutters were with the Corvair, why was extra money spent to balloon the roof several inches skyward, necessitating a different windshield, front door windows and frames, and other parts than the sedan? It makes the Corvair wagon look a bit like a hearse. How much headroom did these have? The high roof did increase cargo space over the high rear floor, but the wagon already had even more of a rear weight bias with all that glass over the engine and weighing it down further with luggage would only increase the chances of meeting my end in an Ernie Kovacs-style spinout. Although most 1961 and later Corvairs had the spare tire moved to the engine compartment, there wasn’t room in the wagons so it remained in the front trunk taking up space. But the real dealbreaker for me is something else the wagon didn’t have room for: air conditioning. The compressor was normally on top of the engine but there was no way it would fit below the wagon’s cargo floor.
The Tempest wagon also manages a flat floor for the center passengers thanks to the innovative “rope drive” which wasn’t really a rope of course but did flex enough to give this front-engine, rear-drive (and transmission) car a flat floor in front and only a small hump in the rear. No front trunk, but there was room for the Buick (soon to be Rover) aluminum V8 which I would have ordered over the rough half-a-V8 that was the other engine choice. The Olds and Buick versions had a conventional driveshaft; did they also share the doors as with the ’59-’60 full-sizers? They sure look alike. I think you could get air conditioning in these which alone would rank them over the Corvair for me.
The Studebaker would get much more interesting a year later when the Wagonaire would debut with almost all-new sheetmetal (the new front styling would have to wait until ’64), a neat (if leaky) sliding sunroof over the rear-facing 3rd row seat, and an available supercharged R2 V8 from the Avanti. But the ’62 model looked old and frumpy and hadn’t much to recommend it over the newer competition. Likewise the Rambler American which sprung from even older bones.
Many of these would be substantially different only a year later. For ’62 though, I’ll take a Tempest with the Buick V8 with the new-for-’62 four on the floor. And air conditioning.
No more than a day after this was reposted, I encountered an early ’60s Chevy II wagon on my way in to work. The CC effect is real, I tell you!
Ok, since I’ve been speaking up for Ramblers several years before I bought my ’62 convertible in high school, here’s my best shot:
What other small wagon in ’62 gave you the choice of:
2 doors or 4 doors?
Reclining seats?
Factory headrest for passenger, driver or both?
A “lounge tilt” passenger seat option?
A 3-speed automatic (I know the Valiant did)?
An E-stick (automatic clutch) 3 speed manual or 3 speed with overdrive?
Power steering?
Power brakes?
Factory Air (to go with the famous “Weather Eye” heater)?
The safety of a dual-master cylinder?
33,000 mile lube intervals?
AND was the lowest base price of any of these wagons?
Yes, somewhat antiquated underpinnings and engines, but the highest fuel economy at the same time!
I rest my case!
I drove a lot of these in the early 1970s. If you needed a V8 the 4.2L Lark was the obvious choice. If a six was enough the Rambler did the family hauling with a fair degree of comfort and the engine was powerful enough for the job in the OHV 127hp version. As I remember the Falcon and Chevy II two speed automatics left a lot to be desired. The Valient with the optional 225 was also a solid choice but rarely was seen. Tney were by and large excellent family transportation
I’m too much of a Falcon flunky to pick any other wagon. Those round, red taillights (afterburners!) will ~always~ hook me in to their clutches. If the ’62 Falcon wagons did not have those afterburner taillights then it would be a crapshoot and I’d have a hard time deciding which wagon to select. As it is, I gotta have that Jazz Baby Falcon Squire!
I’ll take the Studebaker with the V-8 and overdrive even though for ’62, I’d have to settle for a 4-door. One of the service stations I worked for as a kid had a ’62 Jeep Wagon with the optional overhead cam six and 3 on the floor. This was just before the Wagoneer came out. Of course, I got to drive it – only a couple of times though since the boss’s wife usually used it. Had two tone paint. Remember that I got the job to polish it.
Well, my Father actually had 2 different Rambler Wagons back then…a 1960 (which he still owned in 1962) and a 1963. Also, he bought the larger “non-American” model, so I guess it depends on what you consider a compact (I don’t think the larger “Classic” was intermediate size either though).
He bought the 1960 Wagon in Compton CA, trading in his 1956 Plymouth Plaza (base car, with the flathead 6 and manual transmission). He got married after buying the Plymouth, and my Mother to this day prefers Automatic transmission, so the 1960 was the first Automatic and first Wagon in our family….otherwise it was a base car, though probably did have AM radio. We drove it back east probably in 1961, having flown to California in 1959…..we have pictures of going through the Grand Canyon (probably travelling on Rt 66)…we tried to visit relative near Amarillo TX but never connected.
We were “reverse migrating” from California to Pennsylvania in the early 60’s (talk about bucking the trend).
I know less about the purchase of the ’63, never asked my Father about it and he’s gone now (my Mother wouldn’t know)…not sure why we bought it so soon after the ’60 but my Father did buy cars fairly frequently.. He would have bought it somewhere around Pittsburgh PA. It was similarly equipped to the ’60, even down to the color…..all our wagons were green, up through the ’69 Country Squire. He didn’t own the ’63 that long, as in June 1965 we were moving yet again from Catonsville MD to Burlington, Vt and my Father was in an auto accident outside our motel in Catonsville. which totalled the car…..that ended our AMC period, as he ended up buying a 1965 Oldsmobile F85 Wagon at Val Preda’s in South Burlington…I think that ended up being our first “intermediate” wagon….it also was our first V8, as it had the 330.
So as for me, I’d be just like Dad and buy AMC…even going for the larger Classic rather than the American. The straight 6 and automatic would be OK, but I’d want to get the electric rather than vacuum wipers on it if possible…and if I could stretch it out to buy a ’63 rather than a ’62, (to get the Pac Man Grill)….that would be great….I know I’m cheating by going with a ’63 instead of a ’62, and also by choosing the Classic instead of the American (but my Dad previously owned a ’60 which is similar to the ’62). One of my favorite pictures of my Mother is outside out house in Murrysville PA with snow on the ground, with her getting out of the ’63 Rambler, which was probably brand new at the time….but could have been taken in 1962, as I’m not sure exactly when my Dad bought the ’63.
Well, if I make the same income, adjusted of course, I wouldn’t want my wife to be seen in a Chevy, Ford, Rambler, Plymouth or Studebaker. The Dodge, like it Plymouth is too ugly for the “little women” and the “rope drive” Pontiac is too strange sounding to me. So, the choices are narrowed down to the underpowered Comet, the Oldsmobile or the Buick. I’d pick the Olds, upscale enough, but a good solid choice.
Just the choice my parents made in 1961. Unfortunately their choice proved neither good nor solid as the aluminum V8 caused them no end of problems. With a decent engine these would have been real winners. My mother remembered ours fondly – except for the hours spent along roadsides waiting for the overheated engine to cool back down.
I don’t ever recall seeing the Comet wagon with bucket seats, in spite of it’s turgid performance that might have been nice .
I’m still kicking myself for not buying that Corvair Lakewood wagon for $150 .
God knows I love me some early 1st generation Chevy II’s but time has shown how incredibly cheaply made they were . no regrets for the several I owned including Super Sport models .
Reading all the well considered thoughts here makes me realize I’d have a tough time figuring out which to buy .
” I can picture Rocky the Raccoon driving one with Bullwinkle passed out in the back, dead drunk. ” thanx for a mind picture I’ll never be rid of now =8-) .
-Nate
I am too young to remember these cars new. I remember the 64 intermediates much better. I was one of those kids who knew every car before I could even read and write. There was a Chevy dealer down the street and my brothers and I would sneak into their storage lot and peek under the tarps at the new models each September, before they made it to the showroom for sale. I also made my father follow cars on the highway until I could identify them. As a child, the independents were not very plentiful and you saw one every once in a while. I don’t remember thier being many of these B-O-P cars. The Corvair was a fun little coupe, but wagons with a rear engine just never made sense to me. It’s like comparing a VW Microbus to a Ford Van. The engine belonged in the front so that you had a big empty box at the back. So the Chevy II was far more practical than the Corvair. The Chrysler cars were just too ugly to me. So the choice is between Ford and Chevy. My father was a die hard Chevy guy. (52 sedan, 56 Sedan, 63 BelAir Wagon, 72 Kingwood wagon). The 63 was my childhood car. But my father sold it just before I got my drivers license. I was so mad at him. I wanted him to get his new car and give the 63 to my brothers and I. Instead he sold it for almost nothing. So with these 62’s, the choice would have to be the Chevy II. I always wondered what a 65 Corvair would have looked like. Or a 68 Nova wagon.
No one considered all the wagons like this. You got what you can afford and fix. You bought the brand you knew from the dealer you trusted. You bought depending on the size and ages in your family.
Mine was a Ford family. My dad and uncle worked at Ford. They got employee pricing.
So, my choice? Falcon or Comet.
We actually had the Falcon – although it was 4 years old when my dad brought it home. Unfortunately, the Falcon was only around for a few months. It was totaled by a snowplow while parked on the street during an unusually early season snowstorm. Small towns could be lacking in choices. My dad needed to find a replacement quickly. Enter a low mileage one-owner ’59 Rambler American 2-door sedan. I ‘d have taken any of these over that car – with the exception of the butt ugly ’62 Rambler American. It was the only car that made our ’59 look good by comparison – and that is really saying something.
The Valiant or Lancer in a walk. Torsion bars, the /6, and the offbeat styling doesn’t bother me.
I’ll guess that the family’s decision boiled down to price. Which probably means one of the big 3. Valiant and Lancer styling was probably a little too, too much despite their advanced engineering. So that’s Chevy II or Falcon, depending on who had the best financing deal or the biggest trade-in allowance on the old, dependable ’54 sedan.
If I’d been 31 y.o. in 1962, it might just have been the Dodge, as I did have a family and a Dodge (Aries sedan) at age 31 in 1992!