Always keen to share the strange and wondrous sightings from my drives around town, I nowadays seem to find more rare new cars than survivor/unusual old cars. Well, this week the pattern broke a bit by my finding one of each in rather close proximity over the course of just two days.
Based on responses to a similar find back in May (2022) when I first encountered a Rivian pickup, it seemed that more readers had seen the Rivian than the subject of this post – a Lucid Air. Here’s a Lucid Air.
The fact that more readers had seen the Rivian than a Lucid does make sense just by the numbers. As far as I can tell, there are somewhere just over 14,000 Rivian pickups out there on the roads (unless of course they are off the road due to being one of the 13,000 vehicles being recalled), whereas there are just around 2500 Lucids. This leads me to some nutty-yet-interesting-perhaps-mostly-to-me math. Upon getting home and confirming just how many Lucids there are, I immediately began to wonder how many other objects exist out there in the world in similar numbers, and the extent to which I had encountered any of those other similarly frequent things. I figured that this should put my Lucid sighting into perspective.
That’s what leads me to late-Fall thoughts of Spring, and of course turtles.
For whatever reason, most of the data I turned up, before getting tired of the whole exercise, related to wildlife (perhaps you the CC reader can come up with other comparison data). For example, that fellow in the above photo is a Blanding’s turtle. No one knows exactly, but it is estimated that there are fewer than 3000 of these endangered reptiles left in the wild. So really just a few more than there are currently Lucids. Only, unlike the Lucid, the range of the Blanding’s is restricted to a handful of states – Massachusetts being one of them. Therefore I guess it’s not all that amazing that I’ve actually encountered a half-dozen or so Blanding’s in their natural environment. The guy above is one.
Another fun fact is that the Blanding’s turtle is known by biologists as a “negligibly senescent” species. This is a technical way of saying that no one really knows how old these things get, and therefore are, so it’s possible that a turtle the size of this one could be closing in on – or perhaps surpassing – 100 years old. Likely this big fellow could go for a while longer if he doesn’t get run over by a motor vehicle, which sadly is the way a large number of non-juvenile turtles meet their demise. That’s something to think about if you live in a marshy area and drive in the Spring. I spend a not-inconsiderable amount of time each Spring helping the turtles that I encounter safely cross roads. This seems the least I can do to honor the fact that the turtles and their kin have been crossing the same patches of ground for the past 200 million years and change … long before someone came and built a road (maybe 250 years ago here in New England) separating their hibernation spot from their egg-laying spot and certainly before the 150 years at most that there have been cars on that road. Theoretically there could be turtles crossing the road today that were born before there commonly were cars. Something to think about the next time you see a “Slow Turtle Crossing” sign.
It would be good if more heed were paid to vanishing reptiles by motorists. Otherwise, it seems clear that the population trend graphs for turtles vs. Lucids are close to crossing and will soon rapidly diverge. At the moment, while there is no literal relationship between these two trends, there are currently slightly more Blanding’s turtles in Massachusetts than there are Lucid Airs. Sitting here close to the intersection of those two lines, I feel lucky to have encountered the subjects of both.
Moving back to the car, I will say that the Lucid’s technology seems impressive and to my eyes the car itself is exceptionally attractive. I’m not sure if it’s at least $90K attractive. And if this is a “Grand Touring” model, that would have to be about $160K attractive. Whatever. First off, no one cares about my opinion and second off (Is that an expression? I’ve always said it…) I’m more likely to stumble onto a couple of dozen Blanding’s turtles sunning themselves in my back yard than I am to ever purchase something like a Lucid. To me, between $90 and $160K seems like an obscene amount of money to spend on an automobile, as much as this particular one may represent the current pinnacle of the technology, is really cool looking, and certainly carries the mantle of exclusivity. Maybe if it comes down to the $5000 used car range, I might consider it.
Hey, it could happen. The Rivian that was equally rare when I wrote about it in May is now so common around here that I see a couple a week. I even encountered one at CVS the other day that was dirty, dented, and just kind of shoddy-looking. I guess that’s just how it goes. This year’s model is next year’s has-been. Really it hardly matters as $70K for many folks in this particular area – with its high socioeconomic demographics – is practically chump change. A quick throw-away and a relatively small price to pay for current coolness and fancy. I see this every day with the still-functional appliances and electronics sent to the town dump, to the thousands of dollars people spend on landscaping, cutting down 100 year old trees only to rip everything all up again in a couple of months to install an equally expensive piece of alternative landscaping that might be useful for a few months or a few years at most. In short, the resources as well as the desire to purchase a car that costs more than $100K are not exactly scarce – certainly not Blanding’s turtle level scarce.
None of this bodes well for the durability of exclusivity. But we knew that, right? I guess that if exclusivity is important to you, then all you can do is to keep aspiring (knowing full well that the next thing is always in your rear view mirror…where it often turns out that objects are actually closer than they appear).
But what if you want to bust out of that loop and would like your ride to be even more rare and unique yet still not quite in the “exotic” category? And maybe you want (or heaven-forbid need) to save big pile of cash; well then I might suggest my other surprise find from two days before I encountered the Lucid.
Unfortunately, I was exiting the highway as this mid-1990s Toyota Century overtook me on the left, so I didn’t get my own photo. I should say that I’m not particularly bothered by that, given the many excellent pictures of JDM cars (in their natural environment) provided over the years by CC’s Tatra87. Still, it was something to see one of these cars in the metal, rolling down a local road. As measured by the Blanding’s turtle exclusivity index (BtEI for short), I’m going to guess that the Century is considerably more rare here in the U.S. than are our ageless yellow-throated friends. At least at the moment.
The dual side view mirrors on the front corners of the fenders initially tipped me off that I was being passed by something unique.
Also unique (well, at least to something that’s not in a funeral procession) were the white lacy curtains that adorned the rear door windows on both sides. I noticed all of that well before the fact that of course I was window to window with the Century’s driver as he passed by on my left.
Outside of car shows, I virtually never see right-hand-drive vehicles in my area. There’s one family in my town of roughly 11,000 that drives a Mitsubishi Delica, but I take that as the exception that proves the rule.
Someday when I see them teetering around town (the Delica’s narrow wheelbase and seemingly high center of gravity always makes me think – correctly or not – that the thing will be blown over in a stiff breeze) I’m going to have to chase them down and get the story on that. If that happens, I’ll definitely report back here.
I did once work for a guy who collected Morgans (and Citroens and Volvos), and he had a few right-hand-drive versions that he would periodically drive to the office. That was 20+ years ago, and even back then he confided that the tenor of Massachusetts traffic was not particularly conducive to driving a RHD car on the right side of the road. I get it. Driving around here is challenging enough without self-induced handicaps.
Then again, what are the odds that Mr. Century Driver is going to cross paths with another Century here on local Massachusetts highways? I’ll bet that’s exactly the sort of exclusivity he’s going for.
Unless he’s a mailman. Then all bets are off.
Me, I’m just happy to tick off a few more cars every couple of months that I’ve never before seen on local roads. And of course to come here to talk about them, and turtles…and a few other things.
Since it was a subject of some conjecture in the May, 2022 Rivian post, I’ll note that the location for the Lucid was I93 and I95 (aka “128”) between Boston and Burlington, MA. The Toyota Century was spotted a bit further south at the intersection of 128 and I90 (aka “the Pike”). These are quite fruitful car spotting locations…in case anyone wants to come to Boston and drive around looking for cool stuff. Also, there are two Lucid “Studios” (aka showrooms) in the greater Boston area…for those who are into such things.
I am always happy to have a Lucid day. 🙂
This is one I have not seen. I have spotted a couple of Rivians, though. I agree – it is attractive, but not six-figure attractive.
I don’t see a lot of turtles in my area, either. Unless you count the chocolate ones with the peanuts.
The chocolate ones go fast. 🙂
I’ve seen 3-5 Rivians around Las Vegas. They’re very distinctive, at least from the front, with what I always perceive as twin Edsel “horse collar” grilles.
I don’t think I’ve seen a Lucid, or possibly I haven’t noticed it. Modern sedans, in general, don’t make a blip on my radar.
Now I’ve looked it up, there’s a Rivian “service center” in Vegas, but Lucid seems to have no presence whatsoever at this time.
It definitely seems that the Lucid ownership experience is in its infancy…which is what makes a read of their website somewhat humorous to me.
For example, we clear (so to speak) information such as:
This is accompanied by a photo of some dude apparently in the “relaxed elegance” of the “studio” test-driving a simulator like a big video game. (or one of those Atari racing games at Chuck E Cheese) I guess he wants to experience what it’s like to drive before he lays out the 160,000 samolians. But I guess that’s all one needs in order to feel the inspiration.
And all of this is much more than the explanation they offer as to how a Lucid owner is supposed to get their car serviced The answer to that question seems to be “mobile” service or a visit to one of their Service Centers…except, there really don’t seem to be hardly any of those. The only one – according to their map/website – in the entire Northeast is on the north shore of Long Island. On the other hand, we have 2 “studios” in Boston (One of them is in a mall. A very nice mall, but a mall nonetheless)
With all of that, it certainly doesn’t surprise that you don’t see many around.
I do live in a rather affluent area in the Twin Cities, but the Air is already part of the backdrop around here. First sighting was in June, and since then I now see them easily as frequently as I do the Rivians, both the pickup and SUV. They definitely have an “air” of sophistication about them with the platinum roof and trim (especially in Eureka Gold) versus the dark stealth kit that does nothing to conceal their width, and I find them visually appealing as a whole and hope to continue to see more. That is something I cannot say about most other large EV’s of of the moment (hello, EQS…).
I saw a Lucid with temporary tags on the NJ Tpk last Sunday driving home from NoVA to New Hampshire. I didn’t even really know of these vehicles before Sunday.
I saw a Lucid with temporary tags on the NJ Tpk last Sunday driving home from NoVA to New Hampshire. I didn’t even really know of these vehicles before Sunday.
I’m now seeing a handful of Rivian’s a week. Some may be the same two or three that seem to be locally owned, but a trip to the neighboring metropolis yields a few more. For what it’s worth, when I’m over there I now see Rivians far more often than I now see the original Tesla Roadsters, though one to three Roadsters were a daily sighting there ten years ago. As for Lucids, they are still a rare catch, about the same as Delica’s (maybe more common than Tesla Roadsters), though the averages were skewed by a transporter-load of Airs that I spotted recently. I’m quite sure I’ve never seen a Blanding’s turtle, and Toyota Centuries only in Japan.
This was an interesting post Jeff, as I also wonder about the factors influencing car habitat and the frequency of unusual automotive sightings. There’s some slightly unpredictable combination of demographics (income, culture, usage) and physical geography that seems to affect what one sees on the highways or in town. Seems like a great topic for a PhD dissertation or privately funded research.
I’ve seen a Lucid, but never a Rivian.
The Lucid was coming the opposite way on Belair Road in Perry Hall, MD, when I was turning left into my neighborhood. I was in the center turn lane and able to get a good look at the car as it went by while I yielded the right of way. Nice looking ride.
Of course with the CC Effect, I’ll now see 5 of those 2,500 on my way home tonight. 🤣
In the Baltimore area, trucks from the big 3 are the most often seen, with the big Nissan and Toyota Tundra trucks a not too distant second. No Rivians yet, but as popular as Teslas, Ionic 5(s), and Mustang Mach-E(s) are around here, it’s only a matter of time.
Electric Vehicles are inEVitable.
Maybe the Lucid’s natural habitat hasn’t yet stretched across the Potomac River. Here in Northern Virginia, I see Rivians semi-regularly, but have not seen any Lucids yet.
Rick,
Here in the Annapolis area I’ve seen 3 Rivian trucks [silver, silver/black, and white]. I spoke to the owner of the silver example, but only briefly, he said he took the Acela train to NYC for his, and it’s been trouble free so far.
With a huge number of upscale buyers of expensive cars in the Balt/DC area, I’m surprised they don’t have a service center in the area, he said the closest 2 are NYC and Richmond, VA.
And yes, Tesla cars are very common around here, but I’ve only seen one Lucid Air, and it passed me at very high speed on Rt 50/301.
I saw my first Lucid Air just this week. Rivians are becoming somewhat common here recently as well. The Tampa Bay area is fertile ground for car spotting, especially those of the more expensive species, but the Lucid did stand out in traffic with its distinctive shape.
I carpool to the office, so from my passenger’s vantage point it’s easy to spot interesting (to me) things in traffic. Yesterday morning I caught a glimpse of a Nissan Versa Note traveling in the opposite direction sporting a (presumably aftermarket) LED backlit grill emblem. Somehow that was amusing enough for me to take note of, and unique enough to mention it here. Perhaps I’m starved for entertainment.
I’ve seen two Rivians here in Berkeley CA, and just a month ago I saw a parked Lucid not far from home. Not something I had ever heard of before.
For some reason my pic didn’t post so I’m trying again
(try reducing the size of the picture…perhaps running it through whatever photos application you have on your computer. Anything less than 1 MB – maybe 5? – will post without a problem. Larger than that, yeah, it disappears.)
If I were to pick a classic (OK, maybe semi-classic) car to own, I think the Toyota Century would be my frontrunner. I’ve always admired their proud anachronisms, and Tatra’s occasional posts featuring Centurys have deepened my interest. They’re really not too expensive (I check JDM dealer inventory occasionally, and good ones could be had for under $20k), and are probably more durable than the vast majority of older cars. I’d pick a non-black one, though.
Interesting about those turtles — never heard of that species before, nor have I read about Negligible Senescence. Neat to learn something new today!
Cool thing about negligible senescence. It seems to apply to various trees on the Pacific coast, old Volvos, and lobsters.
Only one of those things typically wind up on a plate. Something I try hard not to think about.
I’ve said “second off” before.
Oh good! Apparently there’s nothing wrong with us…we’re just “exceedingly rare”. Like Lucids and Blanding’s turtles.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/22740/does-the-phrase-second-off-make-sense
I ran up on a Lucid about 2 weeks ago on the Tri-State Tollway (Chicago area). Gotta say, as a lifelong car spotter, I had no idea what I was looking at; I had to Google it. Not while driving, of course.
Strangely, I have not yet seen a Rivian in the wild.
I’ve seen at least three Rivans, but finally spotted a Lucid after a doctors visit, I legitimately didn’t know what it was until I walked right up to it.
Rare or not, somehow Motor Trend picked this car for their Golden Calipers this year…
https://www.motortrend.com/news/lucid-air-2022-car-of-the-year/
…but then this is the same magazine that picked the Chevy Vega, Mustang II, and Chevy Citation for that honor, so there’s that.
Can’t report seeing any Lucids or Rivians in my corner of Florida.
I am proud to say, however, that I do host TWO gopher tortoises on my .3 acre lot. One took up residence 3 years ago; the other just moved in last summer.
Since gopher tortoises are an endangered species I feel I am doing my part to extend their range.
More statistics: According to the experts who collect this data, those who are likely to own a Lucid (the super-rich) generate about 65 metric tons of carbon per person per year. The U. S. average is 16.5 metric tons per person, compared to 8 in Europe, 5 in China and less than 1 in most African nations.
Kind of puts things into perspective and not in a good way for our turtle friends.
Really enjoyed your post, Mr. Sun!
Well, two responses…
1) Given that statistic about the super-rich and their carbon footprints, then I suppose that more the gravitate toward zero-emissions vehicles the better. If those vehicles are ridiculously expensive…well, they can afford it.
2) Good on you for the gopher tortoise habitat!! Those are absolutely some of the cutest tortoises going! Sounds like you’re in on the front-end of a 100 year long experience 😉
I saw my first Lucid two weeks ago, in North Vancouver. I was a little surprised (I wasn’t sure they were selling in Canada yet) but I’ve learned since that they have a showroom (sorry, ‘Studio’) downtown.
I’ve yet to see a Rivian on the street, but they also have a storefront. It’s interesting to see the difference between the two spaces. Rivian occupies a small nondescript space, albeit in a trendy area on the edge of downtown. Lucid has taken almost the entire ground floor of a commercial high-rise on a major street in the city centre.
Saw my first Lucid Air last month. Distinctive shape, although it could just as well be the next Audi A7 if one didn’t know better. Attractive though.
There are two, possibly three Rivians in my own neighborhood now. One replaced a 2021 GMC Sierra, the other a smaller CUV. The third one I’m pretty sure is a different one but all three are the same white color somehow. Now in general a “normal” sighting around town in various colors, the green color is pretty.
I did see a passel of the Rivian Amazon Delivery vans last week, pulling out of an Amazon facility near Denver in a convoy. They are HUGE as compared to the Promasters etc. Although part of it could be an illusion as the body seems to get closer to the ground than normal vans but they seem taller as well and they are definitely longer from nose to tail.
Tons of the Kia and Hyundai EVs running around now too (along with the Mustang and also the newer Bolts). Ford Lightnings are more and more common, and there’s a Hummer floating (ok, plodding) around here as well.
Waiting to see a Tesla Semi, I guess those’ll be coming along soon now too.
I think I just saw something about EVs in general now being over 6% of sales in the U.S., as compared with maybe 2% just over a year ago? EV sightings in general are no longer a novelty at all, now it’s down to the newest models being the novelty.
I’ve seen a few Lucids, in fact I passed one on the freeway yesterday. later that evening I was passed by a Rivian truck, speeding and zooming through traffic. Maybe he wanted to make it home before his battery ran out? (Joke!)
One hundred K is way too much for a depreciating asset, at least for this regular Joe. I’d buy a Leaf and use the rest to pay down my mortgage. But them’s that got’s, are them’s that gets! Be it a Rivian, Lucid, or big Tesla. Personally, it’s the Cadillac Lyric that catches my eye, though my Son just bought a new little Tesla.
I’m not an EV hater, someday every factor may come into harmony and I’ll get one. Until then, since I’m retired, and my vehicles often go days without being driven, my Navigator sits in my driveway as a zero emission vehicle.
Funny…I noted that the Lucid I observed was motivating decidedly conservatively. I had to slow to stay behind it and passed it without issue when the time came (i.e. after I’d finished taking pictures). I wondered if they were driving that slowly due to wanting to conserve battery life.
I’m not an EV hater at all and know full well that EV is the future for those who are buying new cars. If I get to a place where I end up buying a new car – and the factors come into harmony as you note – then an EV it will be.
I do think/hope that when/if that time comes, I can do better than a six-figure price tag.
See the “Lucid” and “Rivian” both here in “metro DC” area. Lucid has a “showroom” of sorts in the mall where I work.
They do seem to favor malls for their showrooms. Very very upscale malls.
The mall thing seemed to work for Tesla, I recall checking out their three models (at the time) at a mall in Dallas when we happened to be there on a trip and needed something from a mall, the Tesla store just happened to be there as we were walking past so we popped in.
When you think about it, it makes sense. A relatively small space, leased for perhaps not an overly long duration with less cost to decorate and outfit than a large “dealership” building, minimal space to clean and maintain and no potential issues with nighttime security. Especially when you only have one model at first so not a lot of space needed and definitely when most of the vehicles are custom ordered anyway with perhaps a very small fleet (or even one car) parked outside as a demo. Or not, but someone there to make appointments to have a car brought to the potential buyer’s home for a drive or however a manufacturer wants to set it up.
If a random John Q. Public is interested enough to want to see the car in person, they will find out where it is and end up going to the mall with the “showroom” as the destination. But in the meantime, anyone else who happens to be at the mall can/will see it by default and if even moderately interested, can pop in and get more info without it being like a visit to a standalone dealership. It probably is a better use of money than traditional “advertising” that many people just ignore anyway.
I think if traditional third-party car dealers didn’t exist, then manufacturers might themselves rent more mall spaces to display their cars or at least perhaps new ones. Large parking lots jammed with lots of discounted vehicles and sales/finance offices wouldn’t be needed (or desired from a manufacturer standpoint).
I think that’s a very good point about the malls.
In the years before COVID (before mall traffic took a significant nosedive at least in my area), I noticed that nearly every mall I visited had several displays of new cars. These were usually several cars parked in the middle of the mall with occasional staffing, but always signs directing viewers to visit the dealer that had placed those cars.
For getting started a mall isn’t a bad idea but the mention brings to mind one of my favorite car chase scenes and “The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year”.
At one point IH had the branch locations do mall displays, staffed with salesmen, and encouraged dealers to do it.That was of course due to the fact that many IH dealers were in industrial areas and not on the typical “auto row”. Though from what I understand they didn’t have actual store fronts, just a couple of Scouts in the hall or center court area, a salesman and a couple of brochures. If you wanted a test drive it was likely in the on duty salesman’s demo that is parked outside. The also did a magazine ad campaign where you sent it a form from the corner of the ad to have one brought to you for a test drive.
Talk about the CC Effect…as I was out for my afternoon walk/hike, I saw 3 separate Lucids (Luci?) In a 1 mile stretch (2 going downtown, 1 returning home). They were each a unique color combo – so it was definitely 3 separate vehicles.
I live in Santa Barbara – so I’d say the rather absurd pricing wasn’t an issue for those folks…and Rivians – they are even more prevalent.
As I live in Northern California (Sacramento) and make trips down to the Bay I’ve seen quite a few Lucia’s. Even spotted a whole group of them at their new service center on I80 in Rocklin.
Speaking of a whole group…One of the photos I found while researching this post was a picture posted by someone who attended a Boston area Lucid owners’ meetup last month.
Looks like this might have been nearly all of them in the area…
I’ve seen 2 Lucids so far but have seen several Rivian Pickups and one of the SUVs. I’ve seen a couple of the vans.
I fully expected to see a lot more of the vans since I’m in Amazon’s back yard. Especially with a delivery station that just opened up near by. Seems like a scratch built facility would have been perfect to set up with charging stations from the start. Based on the locations of the many other facilites in the area the station’s delivery radius can’t be very large.
My unicorn EV sighting is a Bright Drop van spotted in downtown Seattle, across the street from Amazon HQ. It was wearing standard MI plates and was equipped with a lift gate and was delivering furniture. It bore no company markings.
Another interesting car I’d never heard of before .
RE : Turtles and Tortoise’s : if you’re anywhere hot and dry, PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH THEM ! .
It’s a death sentence because they get scared and pi$$, then they die of dehydration before they can replenish their precious water……
-Nate
Thanks Nate, that’s good advice. I didn’t know that, although I have had several turtles relieve themselves on me. Fortunately, all of my turtle-moving adventures happen here in a generally not hot and dry climate.
I have an Amazon Delivery in my back yard. I have only seen one Amazon EV van actually making deliveries, but I have seen a number of them being brought in on flatbed trucks, two at a time (at least a dozen). So they are on their way. Amazon can beta test the truck EV technology for the rest of us.
Only seen one Lucid here in San Diego, and that was a couple of months ago. Rivian sightings beyond counting. But then, around here, it seems like every third car is a Tesla.
First Lucid hit Richmond a couple of weeks ago, saw it at the local car wash while I was cleaning my Bolt. Poor guy was having a hell of a time getting the car dried because everyone there wanted a tour of it.
I find them elegant, gorgeous, and if I could afford the six figure price of entry, there’d be one ordered now.
I somehow have yet to see a Rivian here in suburban Maryland, even though here in the DC suburbs these sorts of vehicles would seem to sell well, and the only Lucid I’ve seen was in the showroom at the Tysons 1 mall showroom in nearby Virginia. Maryland is terrapin country, but I haven’t seen a turtle this year either.
Growing up in Maryland and spending considerable time at my Grandmother’s 100 acre property in upper Montgomery County – which at the time had most of Little Seneca Creek running through it, until that was eventually taken, dammed, and turned into a gigantic lake – I used to spend endless hours each summer collecting what I called “Terrapins”, but that were in fact Eastern Box Turtles. My mom, a native Marylander, called all turtles “terrapins”.
We used to paint our initials on those turtles that we found. Something I now know is probably not cool, but in the 1960s this seemed ok. Nearly every summer we would find at least one turtle (sorry, Terrapin) that was already initialed…by my mom or one of her brothers from decades before.
I’m guessing that there are still turtles wondering around (what is now public land) with initials painted on them. Maybe, given your report of the status of Lucids in the DMV, there are more of those turtles than there are Lucids. We kept pretty busy painting those guys for a number of years. 🙂
I have heard it’s bad to paint your names on them but if they’re still living how bad could it really be ? .
I remember ‘Terrapin’ being used well into the 1960’s, I never had any luck catching them down to the lake .
Sadly I saw a experiment conducted by a group of college students where they placed plastic turtles on the road side. An astounding 67% intentionally ran over them.
I hesitate to assert that such behavior is common among my fellow man (human)…but I suspect that experiment’s result is pretty much spot on.
Based on the carnage I see around here at least.
Well, I dare say that there are now waaaaaaaay more Lucids in 1:64(ish) scale than there are in real life. Since I was able to pick this one up at the grocery store today.