Forbidden Fruit Finds: BYD and Peugeot and Chevrolet, Oh My! – Freedom Of Choice

BYD Song Plus DM-i

‘Twas the day before settling my kid in for another semester of college, and while at the southwestern condo to ensure things were alright I decided that a walk around the complex was in order; it had been a long drive and perhaps I could bag something interesting to share.  After all, this has historically been fertile ground for tourists visiting from our southern neighbor to spend their exchange dollars and bring their interesting cars with them for weeks (or months) at a time, such as this Renault Duster Oroch pickup we saw a year or two ago in this same place.

Today though there were not one, not two, but three different juicy treats!  Let’s take a look at this bounty beginning with the most interesting, and perhaps also the most significant.  We’ll start with the foreign company that nobody seems to have a good answer to beyond throwing up protectionist measures, although it is part owned by an American company controlled by a household name.

BYD Song Plus DM-i

Yes, that would be BYD (Build Your Dreams), with one of their largest shareholders being Berkshire Hathaway, Warren Buffett’s wildly successful holding company.  From the days of building crappy little Hyundai Elantra knockoffs for the Chinese taxi industry (at least that was my own first exposure to them about fifteen years ago), to now legitimately scaring every major automaker worldwide and gobbling up market share to the point of various governments deciding to just apply protectionist measures instead of their own industry competing, they’ve come from rags to riches.

BYD Song Plus DM-i

This is one of their newest offerings in Mexico, the Song Plus DM-i, introduced earlier this year and my first exposure to it.  This is a Plug-In Hybrid although a full EV is also available that apparently competes very well with the Tesla Model Y, Mustang Mach-E as well as VW ID.4, at least as far as battery size and general format are concerned.  In this Plug-In Hybrid version though it competes against most mid-size CUVs, i.e. the meat of the auto industry these days and is more or less their current flagship model in Mexico (of the ones with BYD branding, they also build significantly more luxurious vehicles under other brand names).

BYD Song Plus DM-i

We may think all CUVs are interchangeable and to a degree they perhaps are, however there isn’t anything in particular about this to automatically strike it off the table.  No absurdly grotesque protuberances, no weird body/wheel size ratio issues, not abnormally thin or wide compared to length or height, and it’s even in the most ubiquitous color currently extant.  Don’t think fit and finish is worse either, it all seemed to fit together as well as your average iPhone or laptop computer.  In other words, a legitimate contender for most normal buyers’ dollars (or pesos in this case).  I can see why the industry is concerned.  I’d certainly consider this car if I was looking at the Buick Envision for instance…which is actually built in China too.  It’s hard to knock the Chinese auto industry’s quality when you use the same place and populace to build and import some of your own stuff…that’s not to bag on GM, Volvo does it as well with the S90 and their Polestar sister brand, Honda has too (for Canada in the form of the Fit), Lincoln’s Nautilus hails from there as well (external link to Consumer Reports article).

BYD Song Plus DM-i

The inside of this BYD seems to push all the buttons too.  We may scoff at screens but today’s actual shoppers seem to buy them so manufacturers will keep making them.  And no matter what she (or he or they) says, size does matter to buyers.  Looks like that’s covered here as well, this seems to be the optional 15″ one vs the standard 12″ one.  And it’s not just a sea of black inside either, so score another point.

BYD Song Plus DM-i

Apparently BYD is testing a Plug-In Hybrid pickup truck in Mexico right now as well as scouting locations to built a plant there (or more than one).  Hoo-boy, that would be grounds for a fight, nobody builds pickups like the ‘Muricans! (Uh, and the Japanese of course), but nobody offers a Plug-In yet…  BYD has gotten a lot of press for value-laden EVs lately but the reality is that they do Hybrids and Plug-Ins just as well (in ability as well as volume, if not even more so, along with building their own batteries and most of their other components as well, i.e. saving money).  So far Chinese hybrids (as opposed to EVs) aren’t being talked about being blocked if built in Mexico (which as you may recall is treated the same as building a car in the United States for all intents and purposes when it comes to importing them across that border, which has worked out very well for many other automakers including the traditional home teams).  Anyway, I’m sure Mary, Jim, Carlos, (and Elon) are more than a little worried these days.  Consumers on the other hand generally know a good deal when they see one.  And Mexicans don’t just drive Vochos and beater Sentras, many have plenty of money to spend and a plethora of choices to spend it on.

Peugeot 3008

So that brings us to our second tasty fruit, this slightly smaller Peugeot 3008.  It’s about 6″ shorter in length than a current Mazda CX-5 if that helps with scale.  This is a later second generation model built between 2021 and 2023, a new updated version was introduced last year.  It appears these are built in various places worldwide but not in Mexico or South America, I’m assuming this one may hail from either China or Vietnam.  Or maybe Malaysia, I doubt it’s from France or one of several African countries that also assemble it although I suppose it could be.  It sure is built in a lot of places!

Peugeot 3008

And why not, it looks as good (or better) than many others of its ilk, there are some interesting textures and styling features going on, it even has Tammy Faye-esque eyelashes in front!  At least you can’t say you can’t distinguish it from a Hyundai or a Nissan or a Honda, no sir, it beats its own drum!  (On a side note, the vehicles I’m showing here likely don’t directly compete, they are different sizes and likely target different parts of the market but illustrate a nice selection of choices at differing price points.)

Peugeot 3008

The sleepwalking lion has long been a CCult favorite on these here pages and I’m sure that any number of us, if given the opportunity to live in a different part of the world than the 50 states (and Canada), would certainly at least take a look at the first Peugeot dealer lot we came across in search of suitable transportation.

Peugeot 3008

The inside appears all up to date as well, with a cockpit style driver’s center with a neat row of toggly-looking buttons to push and prod to your heart’s content and your passenger’s annoyance, along with a de rigueur screen.  The seats do look bolstered to a far greater degree than most vehicles such as this which bodes well.  I kind of like that expansive looking shelf it’s got going on under the vents and wrapping toward the passenger side until out of frame as well.

Peugeot 3008

I don’t know exactly how many vehicles like this we currently have for sale here in the Northern Fiddy, but I’ll be damned if I’m not interesting in looking at one that’s more interesting than all of the others.  And for now, perhaps only since I can’t have it, this is one I want to see more of.  Until familiarity breeds the familiar contempt of course.

Chevrolet Captiva

And what of the sort of home team, okay, OUR home team?  The mighty Chevrolet, purveyor of all things to…well, lets just stick with purveyor of all things I suppose.  Here we have the current iteration of the Chevrolet Captiva, which our main audience will perhaps (or not) remember as the badge engineered version of the Opel Antara sold here as the second generation Saturn Vue and as a rental fleet only Chevy Captiva.  Lovingly (or not so) nicknamed the Craptiva by more than one person.  This one is unfortunately a little…homely looking.  A little too bulky for its own good in my estimation.  Not sexy.  More flannel nightgown and knee socks.  And maybe a book?  Warm milk with honey for sure.  Something’s just a little off.

Chevrolet Captiva Premier

While badged a Chevrolet it seems to carry more GMC styling cues, is that it?  This one looks to be a 2022 or newer version, these are actually a rebadged Baojun 530 (a what? Baojun 530 I said) and sizewise is positioned between the slightly smaller Trax and the slightly larger Equinox.  Sales seem to be holding steady at just under 20,000 or so a year which actually made it Mexico’s best selling SUV/CUV and these are built in China by the SAIC-GM-Wuling joint venture.  There is even an MG-badged version sold somewhere so if you have access to a tweed cap and string-backed gloves, this might be the one for you, old chap, although this is surely not even remotely what I think of when I think of the Morris Garage.

Chevy Captiva Premier

To paraphrase Jules in Pulp Fiction, check out the big screen on Captiva!  I don’t know that Chevy offers us gringos anything as large.  They’re holding out on us!  It looks pretty much as expected inside besides that 27″ or whatever Sony Trinitron front and center.  But a perfect case of Chevy happily selling Chinese made stuff all over the world but not thrilled about the prospect of the guys literally down the road selling stuff against them at home.  How bad can this car/CUV/SUV really be?  I’m sure it’s perfectly fine and while the roads up here are in many cases awful, some of the roads south of the border are just as bad.  So if it can hold up there it would hold up here as well.

Chevrolet Captiva Premier

The brass bowtie is known the world over…  This is even the Premier trim level, the creme de la creme.  Or crema de la crema?

That was the show and tell portion of our little forbidden fruitstand for today, perhaps you liked some of the offerings?  Well, sorry, muchacho, no sopa for you!  But if you could climb over the wall and plunk down your sack of pesos how many would you need to get in the game?

While exchange rates are variable and I have no idea about taxes or whatever other costs are involved, the current base prices for the current version of these models in Mexico seem to be as follows at today’s exchange rates (just for reference a Toyota RAV4 LE starts at USD$30,480 in Mexico whereas it is $28,675 in the U.S., it may very well be equipped differently though):

Chevrolet Captiva Premier (2024, newer version than featured here, 7 seater) – 549,400 pesos or about USD$29,200

Peugeot 3008 mid-level (2024, newer version but quite similar) – 627,900 pesos or about USD$33,406

BYD Song Plus DM-i Plug-In Hybrid (2024) – 778,800 pesos or about USD$41,434 (note that in China I believe this is sold for about the equivalent of USD$25,000).  Current tariffs for manufactured-in-China cars imported to the U.S. are 25% so would (could?) that make it $31,250 in the U.S.? Or do we add 25% to the Mexico price making it $51,792? (This is HIGHLY subjective/speculative and not to be relied on as whatsoever factual.)

Enjoy the fruit, it’s ripe, juicy, and laid out there for the taking.

Hasta la Vista, baby!