(first posted 10/2/2012) Another branch of Marmon-Herrington’s many activities was the manufacturing of large trucks. It was a low-volume marginal affair, and production ceased in 1963. But the truck brand name was sold to a new entity, which built large over-the-road trucks from 1963 until 1997. Marmon was strictly a low volume built-to-order firm, and thus earned the nick-name “the Rolls Royce of Trucks”. Now if I had a vintage Marmon truck, I’d just have to drop in a DD 16V-71. I googled ferociously on the assumption someone else had thought of it, but no such luck. Is there a shortage of imagination among truckers? But here’s a couple of others to gaze at anyway:
During my hitchhiking years, I only scored one ride in a Marmon, a cab-over unit, as most were then east of the Rockies. I knew of Marmon’s rep, and felt privileged to climb up into the R-R of trucks. Well, I can assure you there were no Conolly hides, walnut burl dash or Wilton wool carpets. It was a dark and loud vinyl cave, and reeked of a mixture of diesel and BO. But a Marmon had status at the truck stop, thanks to that big M on the front.
There are still a few Marmon Conventionals running around Illinois and Iowa. Im guessing that they are the 80s or 90s versions. I usually see them being run as grain haulers or tippers on the farms out west.
If it’s any consolation you could get your M with a 12V71.
I had forgotten all about these, but do recall seeing one here or there in years past. But not in a long time.
Was the 16V-71 ever used in an OEM truck application? I know the 12V was … but I thought the 16V and 24V were marine/rail/stationary only. I was a design engineer at Peterbilt for 5 years in the late ’70’s and early ’80’s and IIRC we looked down on Marmons, Western Stars and Autocars as poorly engineered relics from another era. Autocar now seems to have a niche market for garbage trucks and Western Star is owned by Daimler, along with Freightliner – and Detroit Diesel.
There was a custom-built Big Bud 747 tractor that ran a 16V
Why? Why would anyone buy trucks from a limited, order-only firm? What was the USP for these trucks? I can see AWD was certainly not it.
Because you could get exactly the truck you wanted and because Marmon had a reputation that conferred status than off the rack IH Transtar wouldn’t.
Truck buyers/owners were concerned about street-cred of their drivers?
I realize I’m replying to a 6 year old comment here…but yes, and they still do. Google farmers oil. They spend some money on bling for their trucks. Marketing and whatnot.
A generation ago, Class 8 trucks were very much a regional thing. Here in the west it was all about Peterbilt, Kenworth, Freightliner and Western Star. Marmon, along with makes such as Brockway and Diamond Reo were pretty much eastern brands so it was always a treat when you saw one. Frankly the one Marmon I remember seeing didn’t impress me much at the time. It’s blocky styling and the use of the same fender mold Kenworth used gave it a “home built” look. The guy who drove it claimed it was a lot tighter than a Kenworth and didn’t have wind or water leaks after several years of use so I guess they were built well. The styling grows on you as well.
I’ve never seen a 16V-71 in anything smaller than the huge off road dump trucks used in the mining industry and that was a long time ago. I can’t imagine anyone wanting one in an over the road truck due to the extra weight and fuel consumption involved but anything is possible. Assuming the same state of tune used on 8V-71s you’d be looking at 635-700 bhp and maybe 1800 ft-lbs of torque. It wouldn’t have been hard even back then to build an N or K series Cummins that would meet or exceed those numbers.
Still, it sure would have looked/sounded cool…..
Leave it to the Aussies.. Sure, you won’t find it hauling freight but it’s still pretty sweet.
Does anyone know where I could find pricing on a 1971 class 8 Marmon cab over w/ sleeper.
The Marmon truck plant, which was in Garland, TX, was taken over by International (Navistar) to build its Paystar line of trucks. Navistar closed the facility in 2013.
Hi Jerome hope you are doing fine.
dman, you worked for Peterbilt about the same time I worked for Mack Trucks “Western” Hayward CA. We mounted a 12V71 in a COE Cruise Liner W model for Haliburton. I did a chassis layout, body builders drawing showing how much of the engine, exhaust, air system was beyound the back of the cab. No CAD at that time. All on vellum and pencil lead. Wish I had a copy of that drawing.
I would think cooling a 16V or 24V would be a problem.
The days of the Cat 3208, 3306,3406,3408, Detroit 53s’,71s’ and 92s’ are long gone, but not forgotten and missed. Now truckers are limited to Cummins, Detroit (4 strokers) and Paccar. No more Cat. 🙁