(first posted 3/19/2017) Car museums come in many shapes and sizes, from the full professional experience at the newly revamped British Car Museum south of Birmingham to the immense collection of the Cite de l’Automobile in Mulhouse and the often livelier atmosphere of museums in North America, which contrasts with that in a smaller UK museum. My key impression of recent visits, though, is that presentation is getting ever more important, and the definition of historical includes a significant chunk of my lifetime. Worrying.
This one, though, is different, with a focus on quantity seeming to takeover from quality, and certainly from preservation.
The basic premise is quite simple. Though to, say, the early 1970s, British cars, along with Australian Fords and Holdens, were the staple of New Zealand motoring, and many were assembled there from kits shipped from Cowley, Longbridge, Luton or Coventry, and there is inevitably a strong nostalgia pull for the (ever friendly!) Kiwis towards Morris, Austin, Vauxhall, Rover, Hillman and other British brands. Of course, there is nothing wrong with that and so our recent holiday included a visit to the British Car Museum in Te Awanga, in the Hawke’s Bay area of the north island.
The owner, for this is an individually owned museum not a charity or trust, has essentially been collecting British cars (almost exclusively but there a few intruders) and the museum bears a very clear personal stamp. It all started with one Morris Minor 30 years ago, and within the 450 cars are reportedly 38 Minors, of every different style, age and condition you could imagine.
But its not just Minors, or even BMC/BLMC. Hillman, Humber, Vauxhall, Rover and Triumph are all well represented, and this is where the first problem becomes apparent. The museum has run out of floor area, so cars are stacked on angle iron frames above each other. You get the situation where there all seven of the Vauxhall Vivas HC are on the top deck.
The Standard Vanguard Vignale sits above an earlier Vanguard, and a rare Vanguard pickup. But what’s peeping out from the other side of the Vanguard?
A Scimitar SS1, produced by Reliant in the 1980s and marketed under the Scimitar brand rather Reliant. Various Ford Sierra elements under an GRP body, looking to take on the mantle of the MGB and TR7. Neat registration plate.
Morris Marinas atop an earlier Marina and a later Ital,
Rapiers over Rapiers and so on. Access to view closely was very limited for many of the cars, and obviously limited to front suspension views in many cases. Triumph 1500 behind, Chrysler Alpine and Avenger alongside.
This is the BMC/BLMC ADO16 area, with something like a dozen examples squeezed in, whereas the ADO16 story could be told with many fewer cars you could have looked at properly in a smaller area. See what I mean?
Little, if any, preservation is being done, although the building is dry. The most disappointing point for me was the condition and presentation of some the cars I won’t see at home, like the Australasia only Morris Kimberley and Austin Tasman.
This which was a Austin-Morris 1800/2200 Landcrab effectively disguised by a Maxi like front, squared off rear end and a new interior.
The Leyland P76, designed by BL in the early 1970s to take on the full size Australian Fords and Holdens, is there, buried under a load of junk. Frustrating, to say the least.
Like wise, an Austin Landcrab pickup conversion.
But let’s take a quick tour of my personal highlights.
This 1950 Sunbeam Talbot 90 was certainly one of them, and looked much better than many exhibits, including the New Zealand assembled Avengers alongside – Hillman on the top, Chrysler underneath.
This very tidy Ford Zephyr Six from the mid 1950s did many years service as a taxi in nearby Napier, before being allowed a retirement. The idea of a windscreen sunshade was one of the key signs of a British export specification. Ford Prefects, Anglias and Populars are alongside, as are Austin A30 and A35. On the lower deck, unlit, are more Zephyrs.
Regular CC readers will know of my Rootes enthusiasm, and this museum didn’t disappoint. A good selection of Hillman Hunters (Sunbeam Arrow in the North America) together with the earlier Hillman Super Minx and its Humber Sceptre derivative..
New to me, as a first time visitor down under, was a Hillman Minx badged as a Humber 80. Rootes, like GM, varied the brand name used for the same product in various markets. Humber was often used in Australasia for what the UK knew as a Hillman, and the Minx as a Humber 80 is typical. This is not to be confused with a Sunbeam Talbot 80, of course.
These Humber 80s are mid 1950s, but even I am not sure why we need to see two.
The Commer FB1500, later the Dodger Spacevan, was also represented
The Hillman Super Minx was never a huge seller, anywhere, so seeing two from different generations side by side was quite a treat, at least for my inner Rootes fan. Various Hillman Minxes (or Humbers actually) are above.
But the biggest surprise on the Rootes front was not actually a Rootes product, but a Singer Hunter, the last product of the independent Singer Company, in fact two of them. The Hunter was launched at the 1948 London Motor Show and was Singer’s last roll of the dice, and missed the necessary double six. Singer was taken over by Rootes in 1955, and the Hunter replaced by the Gazelle, a warmed over Minx, initially fitted with a Singer engine.
The Rover P4, from 1948 to 1964, is now sometimes misunderstood, but it did a lot to create the image and reputation Rover had by the 1960s. Here are an early (1951) 75, with the distinctive Cyclops central fog light, sitting with a 1961 100 and a 1964 110. The more modern car is a 1990 Austin Metro, bearing aftermarket Rover badging.
Tucked into the corner was a Rover 2600, the six cylinder version of the immortal SD1, and in the splendid yellow used for the launch cars. Two Rover 2000 P6s and another P4 were keeping it company, but can you really see it?
The grander British marques are not forgotten either – this is a 1955 Alvis TC21/100 (known as the Grey Lady), and in the background a 1950 Austin A125 Sheerline limousine.
The most impressive display is the centrepiece of Morris Minors, which were better cared for than the rest of the collection. Looking back, I’m not sure all these were UK market colours.
There is no doubting the proprietor’s intention and genuine interest (he claims the 450 cars are the world’s largest collection of British cars and has just spent several thousand pounds shipping a tidy 2005 Rover 75 from the UK, for example), knowledge and pride in his collection, with a special highlight being his first Mini, and seeing him interact with a young family and a 1931 Dennis fire engine was proof: it’s just that it was a bit like being a wonderful antiquarian book shop, rammed full of books on shelves and in piles on the floor and being only allowed to read the titles on the spines.
Don’t get me wrong – it was worth going to and I’d go again, but it wasn’t quite what I was expecting!
Quite the wonderful collection and you aren’t alone in your frustration of not being able to see them individually nor in-depth.
For inexplicable reasons I’m drawn to the Zephyr taxi. Perhaps because it contains the most stories.
It sounds like a very good visit.
Wow. Stacking the cars like that makes it look a little like a scrapyard ! I hope they have plans to make more floor-space …
Amazing to see the Vanguard Sportsman though, and the real Singers.
At the back of these sheds are stacked wrecks he has for parts which he wont sell claiming he needs them but nothing he has is ever restored they are displayed as found and delivered. He has expanded several times but is running out of land.
Your observations pretty much confirm what one would suspect just doing a quick search about the museum on Google. The elderly gentleman who owns this collection explains he intends to bequeath these cars to his family members in passing, yet one can’t help but to recognize what a massive undertaking such a task would be. How would you even begin to remove the cars stacked on those iron frames? Sounds like a well intentioned person who developed a hoarding problem…
He has a forklift thats how they got there.
Wow! What a huge collection and so focused too. I wish I had known of it when we were there a decade and a half ago (but maybe it’s newer than that?).
Either way, it sounds like you had a great time hunting around and seeing some stuff that you rarely see anywhere else anymore. Thanks for sharing!
You should have called in Roger, you could have gone out there in my Hillman and I could have showed you rarer and better examples of Rootes cars parked locally, The Humber 80 is unique to NZ Todd motors who assembled Rootes cars badged all models of sidevalve Minx Humber ten to give Humber dealers a small car to sell the 80 model came about when Minxs went OHV in 56, very popular cars out here they are reliable and robust but there are few left alive on the roads now. The sun visor was an accessory for those Zephyrs when new suddenly everyone wants them, yet when those cars were everywhere sunvisors were uncool and thrown away, Yes Ian Hope’s backyard as that museum is called is cluttered and the Morris(most were Austins) Kimberly is very rare they didnt last long on the roads. A lot of cars he has arent rare but were donated to his collection often due to being unsellable when the invasion of used junk began arriving from Japan, this sort of thing still happens friends have found extra MK2 Escorts in their spares paddock on occasion.
Having lived in nz in my formative years i love seeing pre japanese import invasion kiwi cars – my dad was a fixer upper in auckland and i learned to drive in a variety including a vauxhall viva, Renault Dauphine , Borgward Isabella, and my fave a Lancia Beta HB – is there a way to trace cars in nz like the uk website howmanyleftdotcom ?
Nothing like howmanyleft, but carjam is excellent provided you have the registration number of the specific individual car you want to look up.
sweet – surprised at no cost as nz has a rep for charging for everything (ketchup ?) -time to get out some old pics with number plates- i’m sure americans are jealous of the plate for the life of the car that the uk /nz aus has – it makes for this type of situation
There would be some distinct advantages with having plates on for the life of the vehicle. Some states here do have such a system, but they are infrequent.
How many left might not work here I can think of nearly 100 cars just in Hawkes bay that are parked up its a shame Roger didnt get in contact Hooters would have been well worth a visit for the car nut plus a round town tour in a 30s Packard, old cars are just traffic here if you know where to look.
Carjam is very unreliable for how many left I recently met two girls driving a 66 Superminx estate who claimed it was the only one around untill they read the rego label on my car, their car is one Ive suppled parts for and is registered as a Hillman Hunter which it isnt. Ironically they live in Haumoana just a stones throw from this museum.
Somebody knows which is the left beige car of the picture #3? It seems a mini Falcon. Tks.
That’s a Vauxhall Victor or a Holden down-under equivalent, 1500 cc GM product from the mid-60’s.
Thank you!
FB Victor Holden had no equivalent and assembled small Vauxhalls as is for the Aussie market.
Yep, they were some of the last Vauxhalls sold here but not popular. Pricing of these Victors was too close to the six-cylinder Holdens, so not really competitive.
GMH kept building the Vauxhall Velox of 64 right up untill 1968 as well as the Cresta but never updated the design in line with NZ or UK models, they were so much better cars than the agricultural Holdens its easy to see why GMH put no effort into that brand, Ford did the same with the Zephyr they kept building them but only had them on the back burner in favour of the Falcon which they slowly improved into a saleable car by 1965 when Zephyrs turned to crap with the MK 4 model.
https://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=bw8070
How not to display cars
Two Vauxhall Victors, the 1963-4 FB on the left and the 1966-7 FC (also known as the ‘101’) on the right. By coincidence both the final year facelifted versions of the cars first introduced in 1961 and 1964 respectively.
Some very neat stuff! That has got to be a record for automobile density (classics per cubic meter) in any car museum. I wonder if he has plans to expand the building?
Wow I don’t know, these all look to be in pretty darned good shape unless they have been resprayed. I didn’t see any real corrosion in the sheetmetal at all. I would put these in the category of nice survivors which are my favorite category of old cars like these. Really like those old Rovers and Hillmans and the vans. Short on Jags but really like utilitarian cars best anyway.
Super cool!
Jags arent in short supply in Hawkes Bay Beacham Jaguar is located about 10 km from this museum and is a working restoration facility doing Jags Bentlys Rollers etc hopefully Roger dropped in and had a look for you guys.
Obviously the whole “let’s import cars from the mother country” thing worked out for New Zealand much better than it did for Canada. I’ll bet we started out with as many or more as NZ. Thanks to cold temperatures, salt, and vast distances there can’t be that many unexceptional British cars left in all of Canada.
I can’t really fault the owner, somebody’s gotta look after all these and I have enough trouble looking after 5 vehicles let alone 450! Stacking them is an innovative solution. He must drain the fluids first, otherwise dripping would be a major problem with British cars.
Thanks for the tour
I could happily spend a couple of days looking through that lot. Anything nearby to interest Mrs. Pete? She’s not really into cars. 🙂
Beaches and wineries all over the area Pete, maybe a trip to cape Kidnappers gannet colony from Te Awanga, art deco buildings all over Napier, lots to see in Hawkes Bay.
+1, it’s a great area to visit and stay in.
I visited a few years ago and loved it. I didn’t find it so much of a problem that the cars were stacked up, but I’m less knowledgeable about the more obscure cars.
Density of cars seems to be a thing in NZ transport museums. The Wanaka museum was similarly jammed when I went there a few years ago http://nttmuseumwanaka.co.nz/museum-gallery/
I went to the Wanaka one in 2004, it was a shambles – fascinating, but not the easiest to get around. It looks much more organised in the pics on the link you posted.
This has the potential for becoming a nice museum someday, though you’d have to get rid of two thirds of the exhibits. At least the ones that are on display are well protected from the elements. Personal favourites: the Down-Under BL specials Kimberley / Tasman and the Singers.
I knew you had good taste!
This seems like visiting this museum would be an almost overwhelming experience…. almost too much of a good thing. I found your report fascinating, particularly since I know so few of the cars; I had to read your descriptions to figure out what just about all of them are.
Generally speaking, I prefer museums such as these that have their items displayed with a minimum of “interpretation” or “enhanced visitor experiences.” In some ways, this museum reminds of the former US Army Ordnance Museum in Maryland — it was full of weaponry, with almost no fluff. The highlight (for me) was the 40-acre “tank farm,” which was a field packed with tanks from WWII to present. All were outside, aging in the elements, and I didn’t know whether to love or cringe at the fact that they were unprotected, unrestored, and seemingly aging as they sat there. But I learned more about tanks the afternoon I visited there than I have in the rest of my lifetime.
Sadly, the Army Ordnance museum was closed for “renovations” a few years ago, and I don’t think it’s re-opened. I suspect the British Car Museum may face a similar future, as it seems like museums such as these are attracting fewer people… but I hope that’s not the case here.
Good comparison to an antiquarian book shop. Yeah, a bit crowded, but some folks just don’t know when to say “enough”. The Lane Museum is getting mighty crowded in the basement, and they’re still snapping up cars. It’s an affliction, and one I’m not sorry to not have.
Fantastic Roger, and highly embarrassing that I, as a Kiwi classic car fan, have yet to make it there…! I’ve been watching the owner buying up old British cars on Trade Me for a few years now. I’m glad he’s preserving them, but many were in use when he bought them, it seems a shame that they’re now too crammed in to use. Some notes:
* Vanguard utes were reasonably popular here – there seemed to be a lot of them around when I was growing up, and one of the local lawn mower guys still uses one regularly to tow his trailer and mowers.
* I’ve seen that Scimitar SS1 on the road a few times over the last quarter century, looks like I won’t see it again for a while! It’s an ’85, came here ex-UK in ’87, I first saw it in the early 1990s.
* Interesting that there’s an Ital there, as NZ didn’t get it new (we got the Marina, but by the time of the Ital the NZ BL importer was also selling Honda which left most BL products for dead)
* Someone local has a Kimberley/Tasman, I got a series of photos of it a couple of years ago and have since bought the sales brochure, so I really must schedule a CC on it.
* The Landcrab utes were factory built in Australia and seriously better looking than the dowdy sedans! – https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/austin-1800-utility-australians-just-had-to-have-a-landcrab-ute/
* Those Sunbeam Talbot 90s must have sold well here as there are a number still around – in the CC-effect I saw a brown one two days ago.
* The Hillman Superminx was a good seller here, and I’ve seen quite a few Singer Hunters over the years so I guess they were reasonably popular too.
* I’m pretty sure our Metros were Rover-badged by 1990. The Austin name had gone by then – the previously-Austin Montego (which sold okay here) suddenly became an MG Montego around 1990.
* CC-effect again – I was at a small local car show on Saturday and there was an early SD1 3500 there in that shade of yellow.
* Bizarrely, the Sheerline seems to have been a good seller here too – they seem to be a constant presence on Trade Me.
Anyway, my ramblings above seem almost as shambolic as the museum looks! I can’t wait to get there one day soon and soak it all up, but you’ve whetted my appetite quite well!
The UK did not get Rover Metros until the 1990 K series revamp. Prior to that, they had been badged as Austin Metros or just Metros. The car shown is a A series version, so in UK terminology an Austin, even with a Rover shaped badge. Other markets varied of course.
this would be me if i had the money and space, except mine would be micro and subcompacts. no need for forklifts, just 4 strong buddys. my favorite car show is an hours long stroll though the junkyard. only thing weird to me here is the way the literature is strewn about. i wonder if there are any detrimental consequences over time on the unloaded suspensions of the upper bunk cars.
It seems one of the Singer Hunters has the early fibreglass panels.
I can understand him collecting them until the place is bursting at the seams. I bet half of the more ordinary exhibits were just given to him, and he can’t bear to see them go to the crusher or be left outside to rot.
My first ever experience if the CC effect – spotted a Hillman Minx (in 50s pastel blue) not 5 minutes after reading this article. In Wellington NZ of all places. Almost bought one of them a few years back too
Amazing collection, The car on the right in the 3rd picture, obviously a Vauxhall, looks a lot like a 1965 HD Holden. I wonder which one came first.
My favourite is the red Rapier, would love to rescue that one out of there.
The Vauxhall, but only by a year. The car in the museum is the 1966 facelift version of the 1964-67 Victor 101 (FC). The FC was, in effect, a heavy update of the 1961-64 FB, the biggest innovation being the curved side glass which gave 4″ of extra interior space for just 1/2″ extra on the overall width.
Get on Trademe .co.NZ the collection is being sold
No Sunbeam Rapier, I bet that sold quickly.
I know the former owner had good intentions, but its good if it got rescued down from there, it deserved to have all four wheels on the ground, as of course, do the others.
Thanks for that, The HD was not a popular style back in the day.
Wow, overload! Truthfully, I prefer museums like this where the displays are “Here are some cars. We hope you find them interesting.” Although this one may set the outer limit that separates a museum from a hoarding location.
Too many museums today err on the side of too few cars, too much context and interpretation. Of course that’s probably what drives traffic among those less obsessed.
Some rather sad comments here. It’s his collection, his money. He can do as he wishes. Fair play to him.
too true – it his ,though the stacking kinda stops what i would do in my museum – start them up …….
I’m hoping that area of NZ doesn’t get the earthquakes. That would be heartbreaking.
Thanks for the post Roger, it is an interesting blurring of the lines between “collection” and “museum”, to my mind there is a difference in presentation. Stacking cars is probably fair enough for duplicate cars, but I hope the museum is far enough away from earthquake territory!
One comment is that there is no need to use “Australasian” in regard to the Humber 80’s; they were NZ-only. In Australia the Singer Vogue wore Humber badges I gather due to Singer gaining a poor reputation presumably in the pre-Rootes days.
Floods are the most recent problem I know of one mint original Humber 80 that drowned but to fix it is easy written off but it looks ok, my estate was in Napier but survived yet again but for two years I kept it in Auckland its been in Hawkes Bay since it was sold new in Hastings the dealer sticker is still on the dash.
1931 HB quake was a biggie it demolished most of Napier but only minor tremmors since
I owned a 1961 IIIB Hillman Minx and later a 1961 Humber 80 version. Unfortunately I had to let the Humber go when the marriage went down the toilet in 2004. it was light green and white original paint, column shift and absolutely no modifications and 89k original miles. I couldn’t take that and my 48 ford coupe with me, so I took the Ford. I once owned an Alvis like the one in the pictures but it didn’t have wire wheels. Getting back to Humber 80s, I believe South Africa may have had them too but I stand to be corrected. I still have a Humber 80 “flying lady” mascot and the plinth it sits on that I kept as a spare. Collections like this of unrestored cars are cool. Patina is all the rage now and they are only original once.
Quick update, which I mentioned on another post recently: The museum owner, Ian Hope, died in 2019 aged 77. He wanted the museum to carry on once he’d passed on, so left the building and cars to his nephews and nieces. There were way too many cars for them to manage so they sold the building and some of the cars to new owners who will eventually operate a much smaller-scale museum. The remainder of the cars were bought by Ian’s nephew who has leased the building back and has been getting the cars down off the racks, checking if they’ll run, and then selling most online on Trade Me.
About 100 have sold already, and several of the cars in the photos above are on Trade Me at the moment, including the yellow ’59 Standard Vanguard (98,000km, NZ$4,800), the orange ’79 Chrysler Alpine (83,000km, $3,500), the ’70 green ADO116 (a Morris 1100, $1,000), and the white ’90 Rover Metro 1.3 GS (sold new as a Rover, $2,000).
I think it would feel sad to see so many old cars, some quite rare now, purchased as drivers but now displayed in such a way that they couldn’t be properly viewed, let alone started and driven. I assume her was well intentioned, but at least the cars are now seeing the light of day and having a chance to be resurrected.
As Scott says the cars are being sold off but a lot of them are rusted out junk one Vanguard ute was mostly galvo and pop rivets, I have seen a few of them on transporters around the country, but the prices in a falling market are high
I just reread this post and since Superminxes never sold well they must nearly all still be on the road here, they were very popular in NZ but the estates were rare as they came in built up and even those are easy to find not easy to buy though Ive been offered 5x what I paid for mine already but Im keeping it.
When I was in Wellington many years ago I spent a few hours at Te Papa, the national museum. I was really taken by a Holden wagon on display, completely sheathed in rusted corrugated iron. Pictures on the web don’t do it justice – it felt both sensual and apocalyptic.
https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/object/191570
Amazing collection but in the end a monument to acquisitive greed without much thought to the proper preservation, curation, display, and disposition of the cars imho.
Hope these find good owners, I’d actually love to own a BL P76 but doubt there’s any in the US and NZ is just too far to transport.