Let’s turn back the clock as we like to do here at Curbside Classic. It’s 1998 and you’re a junior in high school. Which of these rides would you rock?
I remember this photo, and on this day, like so many others, my buddies and I would head over to the Y’Not Burger in Torrance and BS about school, girls, cars, and teen miscellanea. We’d spend hours there, ogling the Pennysaver classifieds and Auto Trader ads, wolfing down greasy burgers and fries, and chugging gallons and gallons of free refills.
Each of these cars met its inevitable end, but for one fine moment, much like a tight-knit circle of friends that blossoms before the vagaries of life cause the inevitable drifting apart, here they are, captured and sealed into a moment in time that I recall fondly and vividly.
Would you take Joel’s ’95 Blobstang? At 6’3″, we always wondered how he managed to fit into it. He called it “Ares”, and it met its end four or five years after this photo when a drunk t-boned it and ran away from the scene on foot. The ‘stang was totaled, but Joel never got over it, buying a Gen1 Retrostang in the same color years later and naming it “Ares II”.
Or maybe you’d like my ’95 Firebird? Only three years old at the time, it suffered from a slipping transmission, and in the rain, it was like a hockey puck, but hey, it never rains in Southern California, right? That car was an accident magnet, and was hit into by other people more times than any other vehicle I’ve ever had. Four years after the photo, a freshly sprung convict in my apartment complex would steal the T-tops, and by the time I found a new set and sold the car two years after that, it reeked of mildew. One day I’ll do a proper writeup on that car, but suffice it to say that it suffered from many of the GM maladies of the ’90s. Still, it was fleet, and quite the looker!
Steve’s Taurus was a family hand-me-down. An ’86, it still looked great in ’98, and with the most mechanical prowess of the group, Steve kept it running well. I recall that you could take the key right out of the ignition while the car was in motion, and it would just keep cruising. I think its engine blew up basically right across the street from the high school within a year of this photo. It was the second hand-me-down Steve managed to kill. His first car, an ’82 LeSabre lost a battle with a streetlight a few blocks away from where the Taurus met its end if I recall correctly.
Akshay’s Jeep Grand Cherokee was a ’93, I believe. It was actually on loan from his father that day, and it became his a couple of years later. It was a flossy ride, complete with fog lights and the leather package. It outlasted most of the other cars here.
Jason’s Explorer was also a loan from his parents that would eventually become his. He regularly drove an ’89 Nissan Maxima, and I’m not sure why he had the Explorer that day. A 5 speed strippo, it was purchased that year (’98) for his mother, and given the Firestone rollover fiasco and overproduction, dealers were giving these away: I believe they got it out-the-door for a meager $17k or so. He would later take it to college in Arizona, and last I looked at Carfax a few years ago, it was still there, but had not been driven much since.
It blows my mind that this photo was 20 years ago. The cars are gone, and some of these old buddies have drifted away, but in the photo, I see five young guys, proud of their rides and their friendship, and that’s the way I’d like to remember us.
Which car would you fancy?
I’d take the Firebird and the Jeep.
Of this bunch, for me the Grand Chicory is an easy pick. Second preference would be the Taurus.
I can’t help it; that reminds me of this.
Nice pic! But you can’t deny that as a SoCal’er you were also looking at The Recycler and it’s picture laden cousin PhotoBuys along with the AutoTrader and PennySaver…
In late-ish 1998 we actually bought a new ’98 Explorer XLT V8 so I guess that would be the one I’d still go for at that point. Second place would likely be the Jeep Grand Cherokee, then probably the Mustang. I don’t think I could pull off the Firebird and was probably too much of a snob at the time to do a Taurus either, notwithstanding that both obviously have their good points.
That was right around the time that we had a 1990 Volvo 740 Turbo wagon, the aforementioned Explorer, and a ’93 Infiniti G20 transitioning through our garage as well as buying our first dwelling just before Thanksgiving.
Haha, those were indeed the freebies outside of the burger joint that we’d read every week. Ahh, the quaint old days before Craigslist!
Out of this menagerie of post-malaise motorcars, I would likely choose the Ford Taurus. It would be a very reliable, very mechanical car that would be like a faithful dog by my side. Besides, in order to remedy the car’s inherently dull nature, I could personalize it with little fuss.
Not so reliable if it had the 3.8L V6 with the AXOD auto trans. The power steering seemed to leak like a sieve too and if it started running low on fluid, you’d burn up the pump. We had an ’89 that I finally donated with 111,000 miles on it because I couldn’t bring myself to sell it knowing what I’d be condemning the new owners to. It was on it’s fourth tranny and fourth power steering pump.
As for the vehicle I’d choose, it would be the Explorer. I still own a ’99 Ranger XLT King Cab and will never sell it. I have over 300k miles on it.
The first-year Taurus has the most comfortable interior so I’ll go with that. This looks like a mid-level GL (rear headrests=not an L, but no lower cladding means not an LX). I’d be reasonably happy with the Grand Cherokee too. I couldn’t afford a car in high school though.
Well, I actually was a senior in high school in 1998. The car I actually drove at the time was a 1988 Buick Park Avenue (Technically, Electra Park Avenue, as it was considered a trim level of the Electra at the time, not a separate model). Out of that group, I probably would have been driving the Taurus. Would I have picked out that car myself when I was a teenager? Of course not. The Mustang probably would have been my choice back then if it were entirely up to me, but my parents never would have let me have a sports car at that age. My family weren’t really “SUV people”, so that eliminates those, so that leaves the Taurus. I’m sure that’s a car Dad would’ve found acceptable, and I wouldn’t have hated too much.
I was just out of college in 1998 and test drove a new 1999 Firebird. At the end of the day, I couldn’t justify the cost. I’d probably take it or the Mustang, though.
First pick would be the 1994+ Ford Mustang as it was the best generation of the Ford Mustang’s since the 1969-70 Ford Mustang
Next pick would be Jeep Grand Cherokee (I still think the first generation’s are the best one’s of the bunch).
Wow, 20 years after my own HS graduation. Although the Taurus was probably closest to what I was rocking in HS (an 11 year old 67 Ford Galaxie 500 convertible) I would choose something else.
If the Mustang was a V8 and stick shift I would choose it (in spite of its being bright red). If it had any other powertrain I would move to the Grand Cherokee. The 5 speed Expoder is intriguing, I don’t believe I have ever seen one. But I think you were stuck with the gasket-eating V6 with the stick, so at least a soft pass.
It is funny how new you guys’ cars were. Everyone in my circle was driving cars from the mid-late 60s in 1977-78. They were either family hand-me-downs (like the 63 Newport 4 door hardtop) or self-purchased (like my car or my buddy’s 68 Cougar). And I am totally jealous of the SoCalNeverRust option that all of these had.
I had the same thought about how new the cars were, albeit he did say the Grand Cherokee and Explorer were actually borrowed from their parents. Really only the Taurus seems old enough to be a high school kid’s car. As I remember it the parking lot at my high school in the mid to late 1990s was full of cars like hand-me-down Cutlass Supremes and those sorts of things. Or if the kid got to select and purchase their own car and their parents didn’t care if they got a sports car, it would be something more along the lines of an ’85 Camaro.
Thinking about what my friends drove circa 1998, I had my 1988 Buick I mentioned in my previous post, then various friends had a ’90 Lumina, ’94 Tempo, ’88 or ’89 Grand Am, ’84 or so Corolla, ’82 Grand Prix, ’79 Cutlass Supreme (until the head gasket blew, and then the car caught fire due to leaking oil as he was attempting to limp home, then he got a late ’80s Ford F250).
JP
I actually had a Explorer “Sport” with a 5 speed (twin of the Mazda Navajo). I bought it from my department’s legal assistant after she replaced the clutch. I got it with 193000, and held it for a couple of years till my daughter took it to Penn State where it died of neglect.
As I recall it was well equipped with stereo, cruise and power windows and locks with some fancier seats than base and an accent stripe. It had the six, but I had no issues with it.
I find that unusual too about how new the cars are. In 1998 when I was in high school, with a ’88 Stanza I had one of the newer cars. Though with 160k it had some of the highest miles and the tinworm already had a pretty good grip on it. Other cars I remember include a ’84 Toronado (with the digital dash), a brown ’86 Tempo, ’86 Taurus, a very orange ’78 LeSabre, and the newest of the bunch, a sharp looking white ’90 Escort. I also remember at the time that the LeSabre seemed practically ancient, being 20 years old at the time.
I’d defer on these and take Steve’s previous ’82 LeSabre… I was an old fogey even at 18.
Steve loved that ’82 LeSabre. He learned to wrench on it, and treated it like it was a classic. Originally some kind of two-tone shade, it had deteriorated to something between bondo and primer. He had a CB radio in it, and with its woodgrain interior, tufted velour seats and broughamtastic ornaments, it seemed like it was from another planet in ’98. He was truly devastated when he bent the frame in the accident that wrecked it.
I’d probably go with the Mustang because, well, you know. ;o)
I did like the looks of the Firebirds of this era however, much more than their sister cars, the Camaro. That’ll be my second choice.
I rented a Taurus of that vintage when my then wife’s car was at the body-shop. To be honest, I was not very impressed, even though those cars get a lot of love around here. However, since it’s a car, I’ll make that my third choice. I’m just not an SUV fan.
The Cherokee would be fourth. Even though not an SUV fan, the styling of those had some appeal to my eyes, much like today’s Mazda CX-5 does, but I’m not ready to go down that road, but may have to eventually, because as The Borg say, “Resistance is Futile”….
Finally, the Explorer. Don’t get me wrong, I do like the styling of these, but from what I understand, they were prone to transmission problems in that generation.
FWIW, I like your friend Joel’s choice to replace his car “Ares”. ;o)
Well, I think we knew which car you’d go for.
Here’s Joel with Ares II on the streets of NYC at the start of a cross-country trip we took back to LA in 2010. That’s another CC-worthy story…
Like Retro, my choice is also obvious. I’m glad to see that your friend finally owned Ares II. Good looking car. Of course Retro and I prefer black ones.
Indeed, Rick. I’m surprised to see Joel is sitting on the hood though. That’s some pretty thin aluminum and it would buckle easily unlike his ‘95.
I’d love to see a write-up of your coast to coast road trip in that Mustang, Scott, assuming that’s the car you guys took of course.
My bride has the ’07 convert cousin to Ares II, she loves it so much she won’t even let it get wet! Untouched and original.
Also all original and a 2007, AND with a whopping 176.9 K on the clock!
(Mine is allowed to get wet, as I don’t have a garage.)
AND this is a recent picture; taken the day of the August 2018 Baltimore CC Meetup. It’s also the source of my avatar picture, as Molly, my Cairn Terrier thinks this is HER car. ;o)
Wait, that was dumb… it doesn’t show the whole car.
Here, this one was taken a month earlier in July of this year. She still looks good after all these years.
The 2016 Civic is my other fun to drive coupe. ;o)
No, I wouldn’t dare try to sit on my hood.
Mine is a 2009 with 155K on it. If I was still using it for work it would have twice that or have been replaced by now. Instead, I plan to keep it until either it or I are worn out.
Mine looks just like yours in profile, except it has the Bullitt wheels. They sure are fun to drive. Every time I use it to run an errand, as it is my daily driver, it’s like having one of my toys to play with. Guess I will never grow up.
None of them. 1998 I had a 1985.5 Mustang SVO, a 1989 Mitsubishi Might Max and a 1965 Lotus Elan I was soon to move to Texas and sold the SVO and Mighty Max for a 1989 Chevy Cheyenne mostly because I would need air conditioning. I also found out that a pick up is the car to have in Texas.
Jeep, by a country mile. We had dirt roads in the area that I would absolutely have put it to use on, and probably gotten it badly stuck and enjoyed every moment of it. To a high schooler, the Explorer was a bit of a mommy mobile in comparison, the Taurus even more so. The Firebird would have been “cool”, but with bit of a stigma. So Mustang would be the easy second choice.
Having owned a Jeep of this vintage, you are forgetting that the wiring harness will crack, ground out, and leave you stranded due to nasty electrical gremlins in the middle of no where 🙂
The high school junior me would be untroubled by such frivolities, and the current me hasn’t forgotten–the SUV in my driveway right now is a 4Runner.
Well, in 1998 I was 28, working my first ‘real’ job, and about to retire the 10-year-old Fox 5.0 that was daily driver in favor of something more fuel-efficient for the long commute. In that light, I’d probably take the Fox-4 Mustang (it’s even the same color!). When I actually was a junior in high school, I didn’t even have my license, so I would have seen you guys hanging out and been terribly jealous. The car I did finally drive first, 2 years later, was a hand-me-down ’78 Coupe de Ville!
That’s a great photo. Reminds me of the art directed pics the car magazines used to use as the lead photo for their comparison showdowns. Only, one of the staff writers in the photo shoot would typically have a racing helmet under their arm, or be holding driving gloves. Alternately, the photo looks like a motor oil testimonial ad. The owner’s name, city, and odometer reading being surprinted underneath each car.
I’d maybe share your term for the Mustang, with the Firebird… the ‘Blob-bird’. I’d probably go with the Taurus or Jeep in this group.
i would pick the Trans AM(no brainer)but i don’t like sitting so low in a car(thats why i”ve never owned a Camaro or Firebird) so i’ll take the Mustang!!
the Explorer would be my second choice followed by the Taurus.
Mustang. SN95s may not be everyone’s cup of tea but the simplicity of the chassis and consequently cheap maintenance, decently retro, but not in your face about it, style, and relative smallness appeals to me, they’re not that rust prone either and they’ve aged well in relation to the latest style Mustangs too. I’d raid the Americanmuscle catalog of course. Worst part of this generation is the 4×4 ride height and dinky little wheel/tires on base models, fix just those and they look great. The Jeep would be my second choice.
Is that Jeep a 5.9? I’d take the GC first out of that group, Firebird second if it’s a V8. 4L60s are certainly an easy and cheap piece to fix. I’d call the Explorer and Mustang a tie, and the Taurus a distant last. I don’t like that generation of Mustang very much, I do like the Explorer. The Taurus is the typical HS car, preferable to the “none” that I had, but doesn’t really hold up with this group. It would have to be packing a serious stereo to compete here.
In 1988 I was really close to being 40 years old and that fall I purchased the one car I wish I still owned, a 1988 Mustang GT convertible, so none of these.
As someone said, for high school students those seem like pretty new cars. When I was in high school (class of ’69) nearly every car operated by my peers and I dated to the early sixties or before. There were a few exceptions, one of my classmates was the daughter of the town’s Chevrolet dealer so she had a new car every six months or so. Another classmate (the son of a physician) had a ’68 GTO but the rest of us had cars that had been thoroughly used, and we were happy to have them.
In 1998 I was a Junior/Senior in high school.
I had a hand me down 1987 Ford Taurus.
It kept shutting off for no reason while being driven.
The Mustang and the Grand Cherokee – to me that first generation GC is still the best looking one they ever built.
In 1998 I was a family man and homeowner and halfway through my chosen career. As a junior in H.S. in 1972 I had a motorcycle and drove my Dad’s ’63 Lincoln sedan. Strangely enough, today I have a ’96 Mustang GT convertible and a ’97 Ford Explorer! However I was rockin’ this in ’72. Not an actual photo but my Dad’s was super clean.
Here’s my Honda chopper. Too cool for school!
I’d pick your Firebird.
My brother-in-law owns a similar white 1995 Firebird Formula (350 V8 w/ 6-sp. manual) that he bought new — it now is very well used and has over 200,000 miles on it. I’ve driven it several times, and even though I’ve never been particularly fond of Camaros/Firebirds, I absolutely love driving that car. It’s a great break from the dull, sleep-inducing monotony of current cars.
Great pic… And I can’t help wondering what these five folks are driving now!
I was in my mid-30s and the father of two young sons in 1998. My daily whip was a 1964 VW Beetle (stock 40hp) that probably wasn’t the best thing for Atlanta, Georgia “rush” hour traffic, but it’s what I had always wanted. The wife was driving a ’90 Honda Civic three-door, which would be succeeded by a ’98 Caravan late that year. None of the cars in the photo would have appealed to me at the time, although if pressed, I’d probably have gone with the Taurus.
Looking at it from a different angle, it was the mid-late 1970s when I was the age of the chaps in the photo, and our high school parking lot was full of late ’60s and early ’70s iron – less than 25% were under five years old, I would guess. I had been given my Dad’s ’71 Vega, and my best friend drove a ’65 Mustang ‘box top’ with a 302. Fun times!
That neighborhood in the background looks a lot like Palos Verdes.
In 1998 I was piloting my two year-old Thunderbird I special ordered with the Sport option which consisted of the 4.6 liter V8 and the old Super Coupe suspension. I miss that car.
But, of what is seen here, the Jeep would be my pick. It seems to be one of the more durable of the group.
I’d pick the ’86 Taurus, although I would not pull the ignition key out while the car was still in motion!
I met up with two high school buddies over this weekend (Class of 1979), so instead of picking my preferences from the choices offered, I thought I’d list each of our high school cars, followed by our current choices. We attended High School in Arvada Colorado (Pomona High near 80th and Wadsworth).
Paul (now lives in the California High Desert)-
High School- 1968 Beetle
Today- 2018 Ford Escape, 1984 Ford Ranger (2.3 & 4-speed manual), 1959 Willys Pick up (small block Chevy power), VW Sand Rail of unknown vintage
Ryan (still in the Denver area)-
High School- 1973 Olds Cutlass Supreme (350 Olds power)
Today- 2018 Dodge Challenger GT (V-6, AWD), 2017 Dodge Challenger Hellcat (auto), 2015 Ram pickup, 1973 Dodge Challenger (former 318 car with a crate 5.9) (Ryan now likes Mopars)
Me (now in the LA area)-
High School- 1972 Ford Pinto (2.0 & 4-speed manual)
Today- 2007 Acura TSX, 1987 Chevy El Camino (4.3 V-6), 1974 Ford Mustang II (with 5 speed manual and engine upgrades)
BTW- These are all “our” cars- Paul is single, Ryan’s girlfriend drives a 2017 Wrangler and also owns a Plymouth Prowler, and my wife drives a 2017 Mazda MX-5 RF. Clearly we’re all car people…
I work at an auto auction service. We just got a Firebird like that thru the auction last week. It was the base model with the 3.4 with the automatic. It was white with blue interior and matching blue stripes. I drove it for a bit and found it totally charming. I would have to choose the Pontiac.
Honestly none of them appeal, but either the stang or Firebird simply for local resale value,
In 1998, I was 25, in my first full year at my first real post military/post college job, living in my first real apartment with my girlfriend that became eventually became my first wife the next year and I was driving a 1996 Ram pickup that I bought new (and still have) so it was a fun and exciting time in my life. I bought a 1969 Charger project car that year was more project than car that was eventually sold and replaced with a running, driving 1968 Coronet R/T, which I built and restored and eventually sold for the ’71 Road Runner I have now so my automotive legacy from 1998 lives on.
Anyway, as far as the vehicle choices here, I would probably have chosen the Jeep, even though 1998 was the year Chrysler Corp ceased to exist and broke all of us Mopar fan’s hearts.
In 98, my priorities were carry my stuff, be reliable, be cheap. This was the winner that year. Sold it to an engineering student at U of M in September 13. He seemed to decide that buying a car without a/c was not a good idea, as Carfax says he sold it in July of 14. It stayed in Ann Arbor until 2015, then decamped to Bellefontaine, Ohio, where it still is.
As Bellefontaine is only a few miles down US33 from Honda in Marysville, and the car has not visited a shop that reports to CarFax since leaving Ann Arbor in 15, I amuse myself that it’s owner is an engineer at Honda, and my old Civic, is his hobby car.
Took this pic for the ad in Autotrader in 13.
Of the cars presented, Mustang, no question. I, too, was a junior/senior in high school in 1998 (depends which part of the year we’re talking about), and like other commenters above I’m struck by the newness of the vehicles in the picture, and the fact these guys had access to sporty cars at all. At the time, I was driving a ‘93 Saturn handed down from my dad and was somewhat self-conscious about how new it was compared to my friends’ cars, especially as it was a high-trim SL2. Shows what I knew – even then, who would envy a Saturn? I still miss it a bit, though.
If it was cheap I’d go “”beep beep” away with the Jeep.
Well since Edward Snitkoff has not posted yet but knowing his choice already, I will second it by also choosing the Taurus.
That Taurus and the ones shown in Edward’s posts still look good in 2018.
I had a 1998 Firebird. I did not drive it that much during the 2 years i owned it. No matter what i did the seatbelt was uncomfortable as fuck. Even though the car was pretty wide and long, it still was cramped inside the thing and a pain to work on.
I did not like that generation Mustang then(I was in high school when these came out) and I still don’t like it.
I like the Explorer (despite working at Firestone during the recall) but not that color. Every 3rd Explorer in my home town was white and there were a lot of them around.
I am not the biggest fan of the Grand Cherokee (I liked and still like the regular Cherokee)
To me the Jeep for sure!
A 5-speed round nose Explorer? Cool. Sounds like an XL trim level. Hard to tell from the pic, but is it a 2-door? That’s an Explorer Sport. I want one of these now. First pick.
Being a high school junior, it would be the Mustang. We all wanted power back then, or at least its illusion. The Firechicken and Jeep are also nice rides. The Taurus… meh. Its OK. I had to drive my folks’ ’77 Monarch. That’s what it reminds me of. Mom and Dad’s car.
1984 was my junior year. Here’s me and my buddies’ lineup from then…
Me- ’77 Monarch. 200 cubic inch six. Wow. No wonder I bought a ’71 Chevelle.
Jeff- ’77 ish Colt. Yellow. Nicknamed “El Limon.” Hit a cop car skidding on the ice. That was fun.
Tony- ’63 Ford stepside
Mike- ’69 Charger
Ed- ’66 Mercury Park Lane
Scott- ’77 Blazer small block 400
I was exactly 30 years older, so in 1968, my junior year of HS. My car was a relatively new 64 Olds Cutlass 2 dr Hardtop. Friends had vehicles of mid 60 vintage as a rule. a 66 Lemans, a 63 Plymouth Fury, a 60 Impala, 64 Bug, 66 Mustang. newest of the group was a then new 68 Dodge van..Yep, My friend Ken was years ahead of the van craze of the mid 70s. Such were the rides of us local Suburban hippies of 68.
In ‘98 I was still in Memphis, 24 and a year from my Bachelors degree. I had just incurred my very first car payment, a regal $99 a month on a ‘95 Wrangler Rio Grande which id paid about 2/3 of with cash from the sale of my ‘85 Scrambler. Good times!
The Grand Cherokee, hands down. You said ‘Firebird’ not ‘Trans Am’ which would’ve been a compelling choice also. 4.0 GC…acceptable. V6 pony car…pointless. None of the Fords even twitch my needle.
In 98 I was 22, I was driving a 76 Chevelle sedan (hand-me-down from my parents and also the car I came home from the hospital in 76) I had just bought an 86 Pontiac 6000-STE was in the process of rebuilding the engine.
In 2000 I bought a 5 year old Ford Explorer, sold the 6000 off (fun car, but unreliable even compared to the elderly 76 Chevelle) I kept that Explorer for 14 years, till 350,000 miles and the 2nd transmission failure finally said enough. It looked new still at 20 years old.
I’d still go for the Explorer.
Ahhhh, the memories of ’98, the year I turned 21. If that jeep was a 5.9 I’m taking that, those were beasts back in the day.
I actually was a Junior in 1998 and I would choose the Mustang. I’ve always wanted to own a sporty car but have never had the extra cash or opportunity to get one.
The closest thing in that picture to what I was driving in 1998 is the Explorer, as I had a hand me down 1991 Ford Ranger, which I still own but don’t drive anymore.
Only the Taurus gets an quote from Geico that’s less than “Arm and Leg”