Replacing a successful, long term owned car is never easy, and is one you may well have grappled with at some point over the years. I know I have, more than once, and CC has had other accounts as examples. Identifying a replacement for my Ford Fiesta was a classic case, and question of what to buy to replace it with was one that ran and ran, off and on, for about a year.
The car I was replacing was (a UK spec) Fiesta 1.4TDCi Zetec – the turbo-diesel mid-range trim five door hatchback. As loyal CC followers may recall, I have been very impressed and satisfied with this car for six years and 145,000 miles, finding only that the interior space, especially the rear seat and boot, was not quite big enough. The same again, but a little longer, would have seemed to be an obvious choice, as was just keeping it for another, say, 3 years. The default, based on 20,000 plus miles a year and British petrol prices ($6.50 a US gallon), was another diesel or maybe a hybrid, and the likely car would be a low mileage, used car rather a brand new one. I’d rather take advantage of depreciation than suffer it.
There was another driver in the choice – a temptation after 16 years of Fords (two Focuses and a Fiesta) to have something a “bit different”, and avoid the (implicitly assumed) default choice of buying one of the bestselling cars in the country again, even if they have all been arguably best in class at the time of purchase. Having said that, the first to be checked was the Fiesta, and there were two main issues.
One was that the UK was in the process of changing from the Mk7 to Mk8 Fiesta, so supply of low mileage, good quality (preferably CPO scheme) cars was not great, being either the old model, and therefore very similar to my outgoing car, or a very limited choice of the new car. Also, as I noted in the blog about the Fiesta ownership experience, the difference between new and old, to the owner, is not as great as Ford might have you believe. The largest difference was the interior, where the materials used are a clear step up and where the rather stuck-on-at-the-end-of-assembly touch screen dominated.
I’m not a fan of big touch screens, seeing them as a distraction from what’s going on in the windscreen. Somehow, the front seats and my back felt like they were never going to get on, either. Those points, plus the desire to change to something a bit different, effectively ruled out the Fiesta. Still, it is the country’s best seller, and deservedly so, and I’d have no hesitation in recommending it many.
The next obvious choice was the Ford Focus, and much thought was expended on this. Another very good car, and plenty to choose from. But it failed the ubiquity test, and the interior felt pretty dark, with a very prominent dash cascading rearward. In a trend that was only to grow, I felt I could not warm to it except as a purely objective choice. Reluctantly, it was not so much actively ruled out, but just faded into the background.
Something similar happened at Vauxhall. The latest Astra looks great, better to me, at least, than any of the Focus, VW Golf, Renault Megane or Peugeot 308. It has a decent interior and gets very solid if not exceptional road test reports. The interior was less special and attractive, with another big screen, and a real sense of trying to emulate the VW Golf in touch and feel without quite getting there whilst feeling a little sparse. It, too, wasn’t lighting fires.
Neither the Renault Megane or the Peugeot 308 lasted long in my assessment, despite in the Peugeot’s case a very attractive and modern feeling interior, albeit with a screen seemingly sized for a John Wayne movie.
The Renault made very little impression at all, which as the company is now focussed on crossovers and MPVs was perhaps no surprise.
As a Curbivore, the perfectly competent Toyota Auris, Nissan Pulsar, Hyundai and Kia offerings didn’t light any sparks either, although a nicely used Lexus CT200h with its Prius drivetrain could have been a solution if I lived in a pollution or congestion charge area. But I don’t.
Time to think outside the box. There were two routes to go – an older car from a semi premium brand or perhaps a different configuration vehicle, possibly a compact crossover.
The leading compact crossover in the UK, apart the polarising Nissan Juke, is the Renault Captur. Based on the super mini Renault Clio platform, and therefore a first cousin to the Juke, it offers everything the Juke does but not is such a challenging way, and the range of colour combinations produces some attractive looking cars. Equipment levels are good, if the interior is a bit sombre without the optional bright work or body colour trims, and few do the compact diesel as well as the French. A strong contender, in the right colour and specification. The Clio featured too, but had the same size issues as the Fiesta.
Matching the Captur almost feature for feature is the Peugeot 2008, now openly sold as an SUV. In the right colour and with the right options, another solid contender, with a smart interior if you select your option packs carefully. If you don’t, it’s the usual bonanza of small buttons and slightly insubstantial feeling knobs PSA have got down to an art form. In both cars, any space issues were promptly resolved, albeit at the expense of slightly top heavy on road performance.
What about VW? VW is seen in the UK as at least a semi-premium brand, charging more than Ford or Vauxhall and retaining a better value. The Golf is a first rate car, but unless you go for the GTi, it seems to place rationality and competence ahead of excitement. A Golf can be a great purchase, but will never be an emotional one, unless it’s a GTi or more. Value for money is not Golf strength, at least when comparing new car purchase prices and specifications. Retained value is good, though, which makes a used one look expensive against a Focus or Astra.
Likewise, the smaller Polo, which is no larger than the Fiesta and from experience has seats that didn’t fit me either.
A VW Scirocco was briefly considered, but the deliberately calm interior, minimal rear seat room and access, and pricing soon ruled it out. Another good car, but not my car. Likewise a Golf Convertible or an Eos – just a bit too much sensibleness for me.
The Audi A3 hatchback could make a case, but the value for money compared with the Golf or Focus is not there, especially for something that is so closely linked to the Golf. A Skoda Octavia was too big, a Fabia too small and both felt like VWs with the sense of humour taken out. The Skoda Yeti tempted, not least because of the name, for a short while, but the prices didn’t. The BMW 1 series hatch was also thought about, but the compact interior and pricing were negatives, along with some image issues
The Volvo C70 and Peugeot 308CC coupe convertibles came on the radar, but the practicality (or lack of it) ruled them out. Likewise the Vauxhall Cascada. And there’s an MX-5 in the garage already for the days when a convertible is needed.
A lot of time was spent considering a Citroen DS3. This is best described as Citroen’s Mini competitor, and rides on the history of one of the best names in motoring. Like the Mini, there are many, many variations of trims and colours, and personalisation, and some very tempting combinations and mechanical options. Ultimately though, the slightly insubstantial feel of some of the interior and basically 2+2 configuration ruled it out. If the issue is that a Fiesta is not large enough, its hard to claim that a DS3 is the answer. But a potentially very likeable car, especially if you can get to specify it yourself. It is now sold as the DS3, with DS being a marque in its own right within the PSA Group.
One left field candidate was the Volvo C30 hatch – derived from the V40 saloon, it apes the rear styling of the 1800ES that stands as perhaps the only rear drive Volvo I’d go for. The downside is that the style and glass hatch lead to a very confined luggage space and the rear seats are effectively 2+2 only. An interesting choice, with many variations potentially available, but the lack of space ruled it out. Here was a car based on the Focus platform that made the Fiesta look like an Explorer.
I looked also at the (now out going) Volvo V40 hatch. This was an appealing prospect and figured strongly, but the value was not there and neither was the space, especially in the boot. It felt a little out of its depth, and having driven a V60 fairly extensively, I was less than fully sold on some aspects of the Volvo interior style and layout, however attractive it may look.
Fiat’s range in the UK is now essentially limited to the 500, the 500L and the 500X, none of which fitted the bill or my tastes. There is the new midsize Tipo hatchback, seemingly aimed exclusively at the daily rental market. I even looked at a Peugeot RCZ – Peugeot’s Audi TT aping competitor. An appealing car, but it’s difficult to make a case for it against the use it would see, being essentially a 2+2 with shallow boot. I can see a definite attraction though, and with a very different image to that of the Audi that might also appeal.For about an hour, I was tempted by the thought of an MG6. This is a Chinese assembled mid size hatchback based around the bones of the Rover 75 saloon and with an engine derived from the Rover K series which Nanjing and then SAIC gained from MG Rover’s collapse, optimistically marketed as a competitor to Skoda, Fiat and Kia – it fitted the “something different” requirement and offered great value for money. And then I sat in one. Let’s just say that MG need to raise their interior game very substantially to win over any competitors’ drivers.
One thing that came out of all this forecourt time was that I was looking for a purchase, that if not entirely, was at least partially, emotional alongside a rational element. Rational had won out three times with the Fords, but it seemed right somehow to adjust the balance. It felt like I had an itch to scratch.
So, Curbivores, do you have suggestions on what I would do, or maybe a guess at what I’ve done? Will I be able to scratch that itch?
Hi Roger, I can certainly appreciate your problem of sorts. Although I don’t live in the UK, rather the United Kingdom of Canada, and don’t have nearly the selection of small diesel cars, I offer the following:
If the consideration may include diesel or hybrid, I personally do not like hybrids if the driving done is particularly higher speed (motorways), in this regard and diesel is more relaxed. We currently own a CT200h and love it, but we only drive in town and rural 60KM/h roads. In contrast we did have a ’06 Jetta TDI and loved it when we did longer motorway runs. I would have another in a heartbeat, as they pre date the recalls. We get about 51 us mpg average with the Lexus, vs 45 in the VW.
Regarding the C30 Volvo, a good friend had one and loved it, but as you mention the styling made it a bit lacking for space.
What about a VW Beetle cabriolet for an oddball? Might as well smile while you motor aboot! ( Note UK verbiage and accent! )
Well Roger, you could also consider the Benz A-Class, the Seat Leon, the Citroën C4, the DS 4 and the Alfa Romeo Giulietta.
In other words: the Euro C-segment hatchbacks you didn’t mention 🙂
…wait a moment…”time to think outside the box”, you said. Then I suggest a Citroën C4 Cactus.
Interesting idea, but a very flimsy interior and I found an awkward driving position.
Being in the US, I’m not familiar with many of the choices available to you. I think the Skoda Rapid Spaceback looks nice, except for the grill, but I have heard the driving experience described as a “shopping trolley”, so it might not suit your taste.
Some of your comments imply you are looking used. Were I looking new in Europe right now, I would probably give a look at a SEAT Arona. Being a new model, you would not see scores of them on the road, but the Arona appears to be selling as fast as SEAT can build them, so the exclusivity might not last long.
Just being able to lay claim to owning a Rapid Spaceback has to worth the price of entry.
Just being able to lay claim to owning a Rapid Spaceback has to worth the price of entry.
While the Rapid trails Octavia sales by a significant margin, I don’t know what the take rate of the Spaceback verson is. I have read, however, that the next gen Rapid will only be offered in the Spaceback, with the sedan profile hatchback going away. That will leave the Skoda C segment with the Octavia sedan shaped hatchback and wagon and the Rapid Spaceback.
A few sketches of the next gen Rapid have shown up. From this angle, I think it looks nice, except for the grill. Another sketch shows a horribly tiny rear window however.
It looks remarkably but not at all surprisingly like an Audi A3 Sportback.
No Hondas? A Jazz or Civic might be a good choice.
You’re obviously unaware that under English law it’s illegal to drive a Honda until you’re 65.
Actually the previous generation “British Civic” was quite sporty even in base form.
You can get around that law by driving a Honda based Rover.
Unfortunately you have to be 75 to drive those.
I am aware of this. But, as an American, I will say that when it came time to replace my own Fiesta (in 1981, a Mk1 1.6) I chose a Civic 1500 hatchback. As much as I liked my Fiesta emotionally, the Civic was better in every way. And I was only 25 then ?
By the way, we now have a Mk7 Golf, 1.8T. Fantastic car, even in base non-GTI trim. In Europe I’d seriously consider the gas 1.4T, not a diesel, at this point in time.
It’s a personal opinion of course, but te styling of UK built Euro market Honda Civic is a complete disaster. YMMV
Can anything be worse than the styling of the current US market Civic? We drove a Fit (Jazz) before buying our Golf and were very disappointed. But the hardest part of visiting the Honda dealer was trying to avoid seeing the Civic.
+1 Inside and out!
The Fiesta, Focus, and A3 are the only one of these vehicles I’ve personally driven, and from those my pick would be the A3. Fun to toss around but also more solid feeling than the others. I only wish Audi would go with a less minimalistic dash design.
Any thought to the BMW 1 Series?
the 1 series is pretty tight inside and just too expensive. No doubt good to drive though.
The next one will be FWD for a reason
Which nationality do people consider Fords? I know the ones they sell everywhere outside the USA are made outside the USA (Germany for the most part, right?) Here in Wisconsin nobody would consider Ford anything other than an “American” brand., despite them not necessarily being put together here (Canada and Mexico would be my guess)…
Also, after seeing this post, do I want a Peugeot or a Citroen, only because I can’t get them here? 🙂
I can remember a time when some Brits definitely thought of them as British, although most presumably knew it was an American company. Those people would remember a time when there were unique British Fords.
My guess is most people see it as “international”. I mean it’s hard to think of a Fiesta as American, just as nobody would have considered the “Chevrolets” sold through the former Daewoo dealer network as American either.
As a child I readily knew that an English Ford was a completely different marque than a Ford. And nobody in the US had ever heard of a German Ford.
Like you’re saying, depends on the location. In the UK, Ford is considered unambiguously domestic and is very popular for that reason. Only applies to the Euro Fords of course. In Germany it’s less clear, but are certainly seen as local in Cologne, where Ford of Europe has been headquartered for decades.
Also interesting to note is how Opel/Vauxhall is a domestic brand in two countries. Vauxhalls are considerably more common in the UK than Opels are in Germany however, despite suffering an image problem in both.
BeWo, I think the situation in the UK is far more ambiguous than that. I guess some people assume most Vauxhalls are made in Britain. It helps that the vans have union jacks on the back saying “Built in Britain”, whereas the Renaults built in the same factory have no equivalent, but the fact they feel the need to spell it out suggests most people are aware Vauxhall isn’t particularly British, though obviously a British brand.
I’m sure the Ford situation is more complex than you suggest. I’d love to see a survey on that. I would have to assume most people know it’s an American brand. Do they assume Dagenham is still churning out cars? My impression is actually that there is more “warmth” towards Ford than Vauxhall. As for sales figures, a sizeable chunk of Ford and Vauxhall sales are to fleets. Renault topped the charts for years in Scotland. Perhaps the English were more resistant to buying French, or perhaps it’s because fleet vehicles in Scotland are generally registered in England.
“Jeder Pöpel fahrt einen Opel”
Opel doesn’t have image problems in my country (Portugal) where Astras are a very common sight and even the PSA-based Crossland X is a success
Most people would consider Ford to be a European product and be aware of the company’s large UK footprint. It’s been market share leader for 40 years. Yes, we know it’s American owned but such is the (now more perceived) divergence in product that the US link is not really an issue. I suspect many people still think their Fiesta/Focus/Kuga is built in the UK – it isn’t but the engine probably was.
Vauxhall has a large UK footprint and is pretty adept at keeping a “UK name” as part of its offer, as well as building cars and vans here. Now owned by PSA, so interesting times ahead I’m sure.
We see MINI, Rolls and Bentley as British too, despite their German ownership and German based development. Nissan is often tagged with British built (the largest car factory in the country is Nissan’s). Honda and Toyota do not get this, despite building many cars here.
Jaguar Land Rover is quoted as a British engineering champion etc, and is still great guns with some exciting new products, and now building in Europe (Magna in Austria) as well.
And don’t forget Morgan.
Jaguar Land Rover is now Indian owned, of course.
Ford is kind of an “everywhere” brand. My Fusion was built in Hermosillo, Mexico, but they’re also built in Flat Rock, Michigan, and I think which one you get in this market is kind of a matter of luck. I’ve owned three Panther Fords, and each one was built in Windsor, Ontario. I would consider all of them American cars, though, despite the cross-border locations. The only Ford product I’ve owned that was actually American built was my Lincoln, built at the Wixom, Michigan plant.
Very interesting. My pick would be the Volvo C30. The MG is very intriguing, so I hate to hear about it’s issues. Any of the Fords would be a safe choice, and there’s a lot to be said for that. I like to vary my car choices and experience different things, but I’ve also been known to stick with what works. It just depends on the circumstances. Very curious what you chose.
Interesting. I was disappointed by the Volvo and the MG, though not surprised by the latter.
My pick would be the Volvo C30.
I looked at the C30 at the Detroit auto show every year. Never felt right. The hatch was too small. Visibility to the rear quarters was too obstructed. Nothing in it felt quite right. Then I’d head over to the VW stand, get in a Golf, and my instant reaction was that everything was right about it.
I’m kind of betting from all of what was written that you’ll keep the Fiesta for at least a little while longer. You certainly haven’t led on to any of these vehicles being that interesting or w/o the same size concerns as your current ride.
I had a 2007 A3 2.0 manual and it was the best car I ever had. I wish I could of kept it and was really disapointed that here in the USA, we don’t get the hatch or manual transmission.
From what this Yank has been reading about the political/environmental situation, I’d probably recommend against another diesel. I’m getting the feeling they’re on their way out, big time.
Personal temptations would be the MG (I can easily deal with less than first-rate interiors) or any Citroen. Then again, I’m a sucker for anything that goes against the mainstream in the US.
I didn’t see any mention of Mini…? However my vote belongs to the Skoda Yeti, I love those things.
The normal Mini would be much too small, but perhaps not the Countryman or Clubman? Would seem to fit the character aspect too.
The Octavia being too large is instructive because it is not that much bigger than a Focus.
I’d be tempted by a BMW 116i if it fits the price tag.
I quite like the Clubman–much better proportions than the 5-door Cooper, and some really first-rate interior options (blue diamond-quilted leather? Yes please.)
They are, however, still rather small at the end of the day. There appears to be more cargo space than there actually is, and the roof is somewhat low. And you do pay quite a bit–not sure about UK pricing but a Clubman with my preferred equipment ends up around $33k USD, a lot for a car of that size.
MINI is too style dominated for my taste, to be honest, but the driving experience is good. The regular car is also too small, the 5 door oddly proportioned and the Clubman a bit pricey as well.
Hard to beat the Fiesta dynamically, particularly for its relatively low price. It’d be top of my list but then again I didn’t own one for the past six years.
If just slightly bigger size is what is needed I’d consider the outgoing Seat Ibiza ST or the Renault Clio Estate (just about the only current model of theirs I like). Nearly the same handy size and engines, but more practical, and colourful interior options on the Renault.
Also, the Alfa Romeo Giulietta is surprisingly spacious, much more so than the cramped rivals from the German Trio, and generally cheaper to buy. Still, the looks…
The 2019 model looks pretty good.
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/2019-alfa-romeo-giulietta-successor-rendered-with-giulia-quadrifoglios-face-117653_1.jpg
I kind of wondered why you did not mention the Citroen Cactus C4. Johannes suggested it right away. I admit to be too far removed from that market to give a valid recommendation myself.
In any case make sure your back likes the seat. That is a practical consideration that should go ahead of any emotional aspect.
The Volvo C30 is the only choice that remotely speaks to em.
Interesting qotd Roger, and (as you’ll know from FB) one my partner and I spent months pondering. We’ve owned our 2006 Peugeot 307 SW since 2011ish, and its been surprisingly excellent, with no faults in its 210,000km. But the auto trans started playing up about 30,000km ago and was becoming a tad worrisome.
Long story short it was checked out and some really, really expensive bits inside the trans are faulty or dead. So rather than spend twice what the car’s worth fixing it, we decided to look for something newer. But like yourself, we quickly realised it’s quite difficult to replace an excellent all-rounder. We wanted something subtle but quirky, like the 307, but with vastly better fuel economy and 4WD. And it had to have a panoramic glass roof like the 307.
After a lot of pondering, comparing and searching, we bought a rather delicious Peugeot 508 RXH wagon. It’s a turbo-diesel hybrid, so should be mega-economical, and is 4WD, so no more getting stuck in our fields. Glass roof too, so is great for ferrying guests around. It’s a bigger wagon than we initially wanted, and I dare say would be too large for what you’re after. But while looking for it, we saw the new shape 3008 (as below), and wondered if you’ve considered one of those as well as the 2008 you mention? The 3008 seem a very capable and quirky option that’s getting excellent reviews in the local press. But possibly too new and pricey for your search? I look forward to reading the next instalment!
3008 does look good but is larger than I’d want and no cheap. Also, I’m not a huge fan of the size/shaoe/bulk of this type of car (Qashqai etc), seeing little real gain for the extra bulk and less involving driving experience.
Just did this Roger, replaced a car Ive owned and driven six and a half years a 1905 turbo diesel Citroen Xsara, I actually gave it to my learner driver daughter so its still here, I went with another used Citroen but a bigger car this time a C5 HDI manual hatch, manual was the hard thing to get PSA automatics generally develop solenoid issues yes easily fixed but I didnt want to spend on repairs, People rave about Japanese electronics and how reliable they are, well in real life with used cars ex JDM cars can be real money pits for problems, the car I bought is amazingly fault free and that includes the computer operated hydra active suspension and all the fiddly gizmos the car is fitted with it all works. I like my choice 6,000 kms since purchase 3 months ago it hasnt missed a beat.
Errr… Make it a two Mazda family. A 3 should meet your requirements and I believe the 2017 update made it an even better – and quieter – car. And it ought to be as reliable as the Fiesta.
Unlike Bryce, in my experience I couldn’t recommend PSA products, despite the great appeal of the DS. Even less Renault, despite the Captur’s allure. You wouldn’t be getting 145,000 miles out them.
Do you get the Toyota Corolla (Auris?) hybrid in UK? I personally don’t mind the styling (whilst agreeing the Astra is the best looker of that class), the petrol ones are surprisingly nice to drive, and I agree with others here that diesels are going downhill at a rate.
What about a Mazda3, CX3 or CX5? I personally love Mazda’s current styling, and they do handle very well (thought the ride is firm). Good seats, very classy interior (to me), and an appearance and reputation for being very well made in this country. Mazda isn’t a huge seller in UK, so a bit different, perhaps?
CX3 is surprisingly small when you actually look at the car and the volume stats. It’s a looker though. The current CX5 will probably be in my driveway once the numbers make sense on trading the Fusion in, sadly at least a year away in all likelihood.
I do wonder what excluded the 3 from consideration?
I am amazed at just how many models you considered. As a Brit with limited budget, any shortlist I make when changing does not include anything that hasn’t been welded and bolted together in Japan. Since I have been driving Hiroshima built cars for the last twenty years, the Mazda 3 would be my suggestion also. Can you get the booted 3 on the mainland ? I know the boot isn’t as long as it might be, but still better than a hatchback.
A vote for the Peugeot Captur. Of course I tend to value utility a little more than most, but the one you have pictured is a great color.
As Uncle Mellow said above, my batting average with both Japanese and Korean vehicles has been quite better than my average with American, and I have my doubts that the European is significantly better in the price range you are considering.
Blimey, le Peugeot Captur, a joint horreur bolted together spitefully by competing makers who’re neither of them terribly good at assembling cars on their own, let alone with their deadly rival. (Sorry, JPC, temptation was too much!).
The Renault IS a really good-looking device, but the fault here is that it’s dimensionally barely bigger than the Fiesta.
So you are saying that a Captur would become Roger’s captor? 🙂 It is never a good thing when your car owns you, it’s supposed to be the other way around.
Always reminds me of this song- “you drive the car, the car don’t drive you.”
What to do, what to do?!? I’d have to vote for the Skoda YETI just because of the cool name. I’m starting a car replacement search too, and looking at all sorts of things. It’s frustrating because the older I get, the less enthused I am with new vehicles. Nothing makes my blood boil, it’s become no more fun than shopping for a washer and dryer (and most cars in the US market seem to come in a limited number of colors, just like washer and dryers)
Roger, I think you’re trying to persuade yourself not to buy a Focus, which looks like the logical if unimaginative choice…!
I agree with our kid on the Focus. I had one as a rental a few weeks and was massively underwhelmed. It looks bigger than a Golf, but has a cramped interior, with small seats and lots of sub VW hard plastic, and the dash appeared to be designed to look good but not to be particularly clear or readable. My biggest complaint was the location of all the electronic gizmos in the windscreen – to allow the funny wipers to clear the camera and sensors, the latter are mounted almost in the middle of the screen. Performance and economy were both disappointing as well.
All in all, bland, anonymous and not on my list.
Roger, I am in the same boat as you. I have got a 6 year old Honda Jazz Hybrid and I am under 65 !!!!
Want something smaller but retain the automatic gearbox . The only answer is a kia Picanto or Hyundai i10 but these come with an ancient 4 speed automatic gearbox . Nothing else small enough has an automatic so its back to Ford Fiesta,VW Polo etc.So like you Roger its back to the big list of usual suspects. I have now set up a database so I don’t loose track of them all !!!!!!
Interesting contrast with the US availability of manuals. Since my truck is an automatic, I wanted a manual for our recent car purchase, which (along with other criteria) pretty much narrowed it down to Fit/Jazz, Golf, Corolla iM (Auris?), Mazda3 or Focus. An excellent 2nd hand deal sealed it for a Golf Mk7. I suspect by Euro standards a base Golf isn’t considered sporty, but the balance of refinement, power and fuel economy seems amazing to me. And anything with a clutch pedal and a turbo feels sporty compared to my Tacoma.
I’d say a 3 door SEAT Leon SC FR TDI. It’s the closest to the C30 you can get.
If you can’t stretch to the 2.0 TDi, I’d say get a 5 door 1.6.
Considering I just bought a Juke, that’s my suggestion. I know you discounted it, but it’s ludicrously fun with the manual and it’s never boring.
Reading through this I realized that I almost exclusively make emotional car purchase decisions, short of a couple of minivans years back when my kids were young…
I did enjoy the Opel Astra I just rented in Ireland for a week, though. Nice tight car.
Has anyone mentioned SEAT? VW quality and engineering, Ford prices, almost Alfa style? What’s not to like?
I will say I know little about these cars but having a Volvo for a Volvo V70 wagon for a little while I will say Volvos are great cars. Wished mine did not get wrecked I can also say that Volvos have a very good reputation of being tough safe and long lasting cars. Volvo possibly the best known manufacturer for long lasting cars I would see 5 yr old cars going to scrap well I would see 10-15 yr old Volvos o thier last run As per the C30 itself It just looks cool to me and I assume Luxurious with leather seats
If you get used whatever car you get get it inspected or make sure the recent inspection is real and recent