(first posted 7/1/2012) You might look at the bike above and think that this is yet another story about an old motorcycle long forgotten by those who aren’t old-bike “junkies.” And you’d be wrong. This bike not only was a paradigm shift for a major manufacturer, but it literally made an impact around the globe. Although it did get one or two things wrong, the Honda CB450 showed the way forward: It was the first of a long line of bigger bikes from Japan, and the first Honda powered by a DOHC engine.
Widely recognized as one of the most important Honda motorcycles ever launched, the CB450 Black Bomber is celebrated as both the company’s first “big twin” and the world’s first volume-produced DOHC bike. Despite the flood of Japanese 500-to-650cc twins and triples into the U.S. during the 60s and 70s, it was this bike that finally opened the flood gates – but the CB450’s importance doesn’t end there.
Why did Honda build it? When Honda started exporting motorcycles to the United States in 1959, it was the world’s largest motorcycle manufacturer, selling some one-half million small bikes worldwide (the group pictured above was typical of their lineup at the time.) It didn’t take them long to notice the much greater potential of the U.S. market, and so came the Hondas.
Instead of gearing an advertising campaign toward, well, gearheads, Honda went with the theme, “You meet the nicest people on a Honda.” It targeted and very successfully tapped into the leisure-rider market, sending annual sales from 65,000 in 1962 to 150,000 the following year. And if that’s not impressive enough, scroll down. When you hit the Top 40, you know you’ve really arrived.
Honda had been exporting a full mix of bikes at the time, from the 50 cc Cub to their biggest bikes, the 250cc Dream and 305cc Hawk. Trouble was, most North American bikers had been raised on Triumphs and Harley Davidsons and thus didn’t consider Hondas real motorcycles. Honda realized that without a product overhaul, no amount of success would change that perception.
Initially, the British and American motorcycle companies didn’t consider the little Hondas much of a threat. Had they looked closer, they might have realized that the influence of the new kid on the block had actually helped to boost the sales of all motorcycle makes. At the time, the British manufacturers that lived on the sales of their 650 twins believed Honda to be incapable of producing anything comparable…that is, until 1964, when someone spied Honda personnel testing a 450cc twin at the factory track in Suzuka, Japan.
The CB450–available only in black, hence its nickname–served notice on the world’s motorcycle industry that Honda certainly could build larger capacity machines. What’s more, it featured superior performance and greater technical innovation versus its European competition. In short, this machine blew open the door through which Japanese manufacturers entered the big-bike market.
In addition to being the first DOHC production bike, the CB450 pioneered the use of torsion bars instead of valve coil springs to shut the engine valves. Owners were well advised to heed two major caveats: Warm up the engine before revving it, and change the oil frequently; the factory-recommended interval between changes was 1500 miles.
Honda designed the CB450 to put them on the big-bike map alongside the British manufacturers, and it did, although its sales fell a bit short of expectations. In the big picture, however, the CB450’s sales numbers are of secondary importance. Its truly important achievements took place in what it didn’t do: it didn’t leak oil, and it didn’t fail. Owners were relieved to find that the “Prince of Darkness” was English, not Japanese. Still, the bike needed to diet: At 444cc, it weighed 412 pounds dry–almost 50 pounds more than a 650 Triumph.
At the time the CB450 came out, only purpose-built motorcycles had dual overhead cams. As a result, it was disqualified from some English races for being too similar to a factory racer, despite the fact that Honda didn’t build it with racing in mind.
Honda aspired to be known as a builder of high performance consumer machines, and the CB450 was their first attempt at that goal. It fell short of being competitive with larger bikes built for performance.
It did have a sister bike, the CL450 Dual Sport, or Scrambler. Although most of the differences between them were cosmetic, the CL450’s higher pipes, braced handlebars, and aggressive styling were better suited (but not by much) for off-road riding.
Initially available only in kit form for the 1967 CB model. It was officially released in 1968 as the CL450K1 “Scrambler.” That year also saw the introduction of a five-speed gearbox.
In 1971 I rode one of these kitted bikes that belonged to a friend. At the time I owned a Honda SL175, which was a small four-stroke, dual purpose bike. My friend’s bike was impressive, but several of its traits I found somewhat less than stellar. Compared with my bike, I found his CB450 to have excessive weight and vibration, not to mention several gaps in its four-speed transmission. It was way too heavy to do well off-road. Yes, I know that the 650 Yamaha I had later also was too heavy, but it shared none of the Honda’s other undesirable traits. It would have made a much better desert sled. I was happy to get off that CB450 and back on my bike.
The CL450 received changes much more slowly than did the CB model. Although the CB450 got a front disc brake in 1970, Honda decided to continue with drums on the CL450.
Despite its Grand Prix-developed technology, the 450 simply wasn’t enough engine for such a heavy bike. American Honda wanted more.
At the time, the biggest engine being made in Japan displaced 650cc and represented just a few percentage points of total sales, largely due to mandated (and repressive) insurance and tax rates. American Honda was asking for bigger and more powerful bikes, but Honda of Japan didn’t quite know what that meant. Later, Honda learned from a reliable source that the British were developing a three-cylinder 750, and instantly the target became clear. The result, of course, was the CB750 – and motorcycling hasn’t been quite the same since.
The picture above is reported to be a spy photo of the prototype CB750. But what’s really interesting thing about the CB 750 is its SOHC engine; in fact, and with the exception of the CB450, a SOHC engine would power practically every other contemporary Honda bike. Why the step backward? Did the 450’s minor problems made Honda DOHC-shy? Or just maybe it was this:
After the DOHC Kawasaki Z1 900 four arrived in 1972, the Honda fours suddenly looked old-fashioned. Starting with its next generation of fours, Honda made a permanent switch to DOHC engines. Does that Kawasaki engine look like two 450 engines side-by-side? Even the displacement is right.
By 1975 the CB450 was very long in the tooth. The bigger CB750 had been out for five years, but Honda felt they still needed a middleweight twin. In truth, the 450’s biggest drawback was the two-stroke technology of some of its competitors. A Yamaha 350 or Suzuki T500 would absolutely eat it up.
Honda’s easy solution was to bump up their 450 to a 500 by doing little more than lengthening the stroke. This Honda CB500T was the result. If the 450 vibrated, the 500 registered on the Richter Scale. In magazine road tests, more than one rider said Honda had committed the mistake of making an aging bike that much worse. Honda restyled the 500 to make it look more the new style that the 750 four introduced.
According to Wikipedia, the CB450 engine was modified and used in their Japan-only N360 and U.S.-bound N600 passenger cars, but that may be less than actually true (as so many things in wiki). The Honda N360 and N600 had a SOHC head, and don’t really look like the CB 450 engine at all. Maybe some aspect of it did contribute or influence the mini-car engine, but it’s not exactly apparent from looking at it or its specs.
I traveled all over Hawaii in one of these in 1971, when I visited my cousin there. The car struck me as being considerably more spry than any of my 40-horse Volkswagens, perhaps because it was so light. It seemed to have no torque and endless revs. I wonder what the VW mill would have felt like in something like this. (Honda N600 CC here)
The Honda CB 450was far from perfect, and was not a sales success. Perhaps it came out too soon, before it was fully fleshed out. But even if it wasn’t as much of a game changer as the 750 Four, or the earlier Honda twins, it did foreshadow the modern motorcycle engine. Almost every production bike engine within a few short years would pay homage to the 450’s classic DOHC design and construction. Just looking at one was like peering into a crystal ball, even if riding it still had one in 1965. Honda hadn’t yet perfected time travel.
Cool stuff, love those old bikes.
Great article on Honda’s lessor known game changer. I rode one once in the early 80’s
Ah, now you’re bringing back recent memories. Yes, I said recent.
At the Honda/Yamaha/Can-Am shop where I work, our finance guy (all of 22 years old, his first bike was a Bonneville Thruxton, and he knew what Rocker’s were – instant friend!) picked up a clapped out CB450. Over the winter of 2010 he and I built it up in the shop. I designed the rear sets and (upside down) shift setup, and did the paintwork. (I’ve got an employer that doesn’t mind you working on personal projects if there’s no customer work to be done.) Had it running by spring. It was an interesting comparison to my ’69 Bonnie – definitely has a poorer power to weight ratio, and the handling didn’t compare to the Triumph in the slightest. The motor, however, was light years ahead.
Six weeks after building it, the little bastard sold the bike. Why? “Because it won’t do the ton.” At which point I informed him that a brand new CB450 had a top speed of 98mph, so what the h**l did he expect out of a clapped-out 40+ year old model? Of course, what really pissed me was the he sold it without even offering me a chance to buy the bike. No, I didn’t need it, but after putting in all that work . . . . .
What you’re looking at here is the major nail in the British motorcycle coffin. Associated Motorcycles (AJS, Matchless, Francis-Barnett, James and Norton) had just gone under (and were bought out, only Norton and AJS survived); BSA/Triumph was in its most profitable period ever, but were already starting to make the mistakes that would kill them half a decade later, Royal Enfield was on its last legs, Velocette was virtually a workshop by this point. And yes, the CB450 was disallowed for racing as not possibly being a production bike. Welcome to how the British handled the Japanese invasion. Nose in the air, “I’m all right, Jack”, and no improvements whatsoever to design or production.
And Triumph had the Trident running and production-ready for 1965. But chose not to bother (“three cylinders are potty”), until the word leaked out about the CB750 in testing. So they rushed the Trident out, got a bike that could out-accelerate and out-handle the Honda, but was measurably inferior to it in all other areas (which were what the customer really cared about), and only had it on the market for a couple of months before the Honda showed up. Which timing caused Kawasaki to cancel it’s Z-1 750 (yep, 750) and go back and redesign it for 900cc.
And once the CB750 came it, it was “All over, England. Game, set and match.” Until 1990.
Love your sense and knowledge of history. You ought to ask Paul to let you write an article on the death of the British motorcycle industry. You know too much to limit yourself to comments on someone else’s stories. If you write it I will sure read it.
The lack of electric starting on British bikes was a huge black mark compared to Japanese (and a lot of other bikes).An electric start Trident didn’t appear til the mid 70s,the Norton Commando electric start turned up around the same time but you couldn’t use it from cold(even when it was working) just when it was needed most.
BMW,Moto Guzzi and Harley Davidson proved it was possible to make a working electric start big twin cylinder bike long before the British.
One of the biggest cock ups with British bikes was the oil in frame Triumph and BSA twins where the engine wouldn’t fit in the new frame!Many dealers and customers were left with no bikes while the valve covers were re designed to make them fit.To make it worse the new frames made the bikes excessively tall,they looked worse(much more in the BSA A65) and held less oil and resulted in overheating and engine wear.
Gem,
It was no secret that the head of BSA/Triumph, Lionel Jofuh was completely biased in favor of BSA, to the point that all the really successful Umberslade Hall racing triples were badged BSA no matter what was under the fairing. Under his administration, the oil-in-frame bikes (which were wonderful handling motorcycles, once you got past the insane seat height) were designed around the BSA engine (a piece of crap compared to the Triumph – only BSA would design a bottom end with ONE main bearing) and then tossed to Triumph to make it work.
Actually, Ann Margaret proved you could put an electric start on a Bonneville back in 1968. For her Las Vegas act, she had a Bonnie modified with a Honda electric starter (350 or 450, I assume) which worked quite well. Yes, she rode, loved Triumphs, and had no problem kick starting them.
This is making me miss my last Bonnie (sold two years ago). I’d love Saturday afternoon’s at the bike shop. At quitting time I’d go thru the starting drill (loosen the clutch plates, tickle the carbs, one priming kick) and bang! start on the first kick. And I’m in full rocker kit, Davida helmet and all.
The looks on the squids faces with their 600’s was amazing. Then I dare them to keep up with me on my back road route home (no straights to use that horsepower). I had a couple of those idiots go down trying to keep up with me.
Umberslade Hall aka Slumberglades.Plenty deadly sins were done there,and a lot of money wasted on abominations like the Ariel 3
Actually, Ann Margaret’s electric start Triumph was a 500 twin, with a Yamaha YA6 starter/generator installed on the end of the crankshaft. A compression release setup was added to help it overcome compression to spin the engine over.
I had one of these in CL450 trim for a while, way back in the early 80s. It never ran right – wouldn’t rev past 5000 RPM, and I never could figure out why. It along with all the other old Honda twins went away when I got my first FT500 in 1985.
I’d like to request a slight technical revision in the story text… “the CB450 pioneered the use of torsion bars instead of valve springs to shut the engine valves. ” Torsion bars are springs. I kinda have a bump that twitches when something is oversimplified to the point of inaccuracy. Interestingly, Coils springs and torsion bars work the same way. They derive their spring function from twisting a bar, rather than applying bending force like a leaf spring. In fact, a coil spring is essentially a torsion bar wound into a spiral.
…the CB450 pioneered the use of torsion bars instead of coil springs to shut the engine valves…
I’m pretty certain the bike Persig rode in ‘Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance’ was one of these beauties.
Having read the book when it first came out, I was always left with the impression that Persig’s bike was a CB77 Super Hawk (305cc).
It was a 305. Which in today’s world is a laughably tiny bike for a road trip.
Maybe so, but I still remember getting around virtually the entire northeast back in ’77-79 on a ’72 CB350 cafe racer. Amazing what you can fit in a couple of leather saddlebags and strapped to the pillion seat. Didn’t have a ‘big’ bike until I got my first Triumph – a new ’79 Bonneville bought as a leftover in 1980. And doubled that up with a ’74 R90/6 for awhile.
Totally right, SuperHawk indeed. What a bike and journey either way. Check out their rig!
Wow, in color!
30 years ago the most popular family sedans had all of 80 horsepower. we’re badly spoiled by modern machines.
Steve, you are right. Just one of those things a non-engineer might do.
The ones I rode went past 5k very easily. I’m sure it’s peculiar to your bike.
I quit riding Honda twins when the XS650 came out. Must say, however, that I did have some other bikes. Like a CB750. That was a real game changer.
CB = commuting bike?
Most folks I noticed back in the old days bought the 750s when they came available.
Kawasaki became popular for awhile then with so many motorcycles everywhere I quit paying attention.
Except when I decided not to turn left in front of the approaching bike; didn’t want my car’s paint scratched or dented by a head hitting my thin sheet metal.
its funny my uncle len worked a triumphs in the early 60s he was a senior sales manager and this was about 64 and they had a honda c50 cub in for evaluation ..and of course everybody laughed and said wot a pile of shit..but not my uncle he said to seniour managment that we needed to sell thease under licence becouse he knew that for every 1 truimph sod honda would sell 5000 cubs and make a profit on each one….and the rest as they say is history by 1985 the jappenees owned the motercycle world…and yes we may all mock ..but its the turn of the chinnees now from flimsy little scooters as they say do big superbikes grow there hungry just like honda was back then
And to make matters worse, BSA/Triumph’s answer to the 50cc (C100) Cub was the BSA Beagle (aka BSA Starlight in the US), which was probably one of the worst motorcycles they ever made. I’ve only ever seen one in the metal, and that’s because it’s still sitting the showroom of an ex-BSA dealer around State College, PA complete with the Amal carburetor tag still hanging on the carb. It survived because it was never started.
Honda built the inline 4 when no one thought it possible. The sand cast originals are rare and expensive collector items today. Suzuki created a better inline 4 a few years later, borrowing heavily from Kawasaki for the valve train and later perfecting the combustion chambers. Today , the Suzuki inline 1100 cc motor is a terror at the strip.
Pierce made the first American in-line 4 in 1909, and then Henderson made a better 4 starting in 1912. Of course, that genealogical dna turned into the ACE, and Indian 4. Honda made the most efficient, and powerful 4 in 1969 and they deserve credit for that initiative, and foresight, but Honda was far from the first to build a 4 cylinder motorcycle.
Great article. Makes me wish I had never sold mine. I had a pair of 1973 scramblers a decade ago, a 350cl and a 450cl. They sure were fun bikes to ride, but the 350 would outrun the 450 all day long. One would think the opposite. The 450’s overhead cam just didn’t seem to want to rev quite like that 350 did. Had a ton of fun with them though!
I don’t have anything to back up why that would happen. I do know that another riding buddy of mine had an SL350 that was virtually identical to my SL175. The 350 was a far better bike than the CL450 for what we did. Of course that is comparing apples to oranges. Like Syke says above, you could do almost anything with the Honda 350 and the United States knew it. IIRC, it was the biggest selling bike of it’s time. I will have to research that when I get the chance.
I do not know what Honda learned from it that changed it’s mind but I do know that most Hondas of any consequence came with the SOHC after that. (all of them?) Possibly too much like a grand prix bike and finicky.
This bike, however, was a game changer. The first medium size (only qualified as big at that time) for a Japanese company. Remember the XS650 and the Kaw W650 were licensed or copied. It’s not surprising that they could have taken a few wrong steps.
The CL 450 looked great,it never made it to the UK of course.I liked the look of the CB 500 but it was a dud and quietly swept under the carpet after only 2 or 3 years.
In the UK the first big Japanese bikes I saw in any numbers were the Suzuki 500 2 stroke twin and the Kawasaki 500 2 stroke triple, they easily outnumbered the Honda.
Get Bert Hopwood’s book on What Happened to the British Motorcycle Industry. It was slow death from about 1955 to 1975 when most of it was gone. Honda and the rest of Japan used best practices to make those bikes, no one was going to compete with them. I got interested in bikes in 1966, so this is right on target for me.
Amazing book, and the best explanation of all as to what happened. BSA/Triumph couldn’t have made worse moves in Sochiro Honda had picked their directors and executives himself. We’ve got a joke in the local vintage British club that, given a choice between a right and a wrong move regarding an upcoming product, BSA/Triumph would figure out a way to ignore both choices and come up with a decision that was way worse than anyone could figure.
I heard Honda’s motorcycle division is their “prep school” for rookie engineers before they can enter the automotive division. Is this so?
Honda’s period advertising was clever but necessary, as too often, motorcycles were popularly understood as the province of hooligans & delinquents. This has continued in the Harley Cult today; if you aren’t really a thug, you have to at least look the part.
By contrast, in E. Asian film & TV, delinquents are evidently depicted as riding racing bikes (their video delinquents are sort of like ours back in the ’50s).
Take a look at the showroom of your local Harley dealership sometime in the next week.
Richmond Harley-Davidson just built (because the Company told them they had to) a new showroom. Take a look at any 2015 Harley-Davidson. 1%ers need not apply. You’re talking a V-twin BMW-class motorcycle anymore. Built in GPS, stereo, insane amounts of electronics, partial water cooled engines in the Glides where they can hide the radiator (the head is watercooled, jugs are air-cooled, can’t mess with tradition too much), the 500 and 750 Street bikes are going to be the death knell of the Honda 750 Shadow (Honda has dropped its prices massively).
I rolled in today on my ’88 FXR Superglide, denim cut over leathers . . . . . . and looked out of place. The sales persons are well dressed, only lacking a jacket and tie to be corporate.
Thugs? They ride used Harley’s. At $15-25k for a Big Twin, they can’t afford the new ones.
H-D today is indeed a high-end business that has done a brilliant job of mixing together a 100+ year history that began with conservative Midwestern businessmen who always wore ties when photographed, picked up an outlaw image for several decades after WWII, and then became a very expensive hobby that is comfortable with the 1%er image while also appealing to practically everyone in both the US and overseas, happily publicizing riders who are priests, rappers, or just about anything else. It is just as remarkable a marketing feat as Honda’s “You Meet the Nicest People on a Honda” era, and arguably has done as much to widen the appeal of motorcycles, this time as a near-universal high-end lifestyle product.
Today’s Harley Davidson riders are from all walks of life.You’re just as likely to find a duke or a dustman,a 1% er bad ass or a priest riding today.If I was looking for a new bike a Sportster would be top of my list with a Triumph Bonneville a close second.
I’d like to believe that, but their choice of costume makes it more difficult, at least in this wretched town. You have to look like a badass while riding a Harley, & also make it as noisy as possible (some noise is forgivable for safety’s sake). Even “Christian” bikers conform to this trope.
Neil,
That may impress the wannabes and the citizen on the street, but to impress the guys who ride, nothing beats age and wear. I find I get a lot more respect when I walk into a bar riding a 26 year old Blockhead, wearing a leather that’s got over 100k on it, a denim cut worn on top that hasn’t been washed in at least five years, and has commemorative patches from a couple of brother’s funerals on the back.
And then I keep my mouth shut. Nothing scares the poseurs more than a damned silent old biker. And none of them would ever guess that the last time I ever hit a person was in the eighth grade, back in 1964.
Good example; you had to become like one of them to be respected. As with animals, it’s all about appearances & impressing strangers, not merely love of riding. Don’t just take my word for it:
http://www.acrwebsite.org/search/view-conference-proceedings.aspx?Id=11476
So that “all walks of life” stuff is beside my point: It’s a role-playing game, & an uncivil one at that, whether they’re committing Assault or not.
“The psyche of the HOG [Harley Owner’s Group] chapter on a run is a ganglike exhibition of machismo and (albeit mild) intimidation of other motorists achieved through the collective noise of the bikes, the movement through traffic in a solid phalanx, and the overall appearance of the black-leather clad group.”
Very different from GoldWing or racing bikers.
It’s not a game, it’s life. The M/C I founded in Johnstown, PA is now a chapter of the West Penn Outlaws. I’d moved to VA before they patched over, but I’m still welcome at the clubhouse anytime. And those guys are my brothers, they’re family.
I consider not prospecting the Outlaws one of my few errors in life.
Growing up in the Sixties I grew up with Honda. Hondas were the bikes kids like me could aspire to right now, and a used one was only a couple of hundred bucks. We knew about Triumphs, they were the fast, good handling, good looking bikes for the expert rider. The Harley Davidson Sportster was the quickest and fastest and baddest machine in the world. The big Harley was for cops or touring riders. Hondas were looked down and ridiculed by the riders of big machines. That didn’t matter to us- not like we could afford anything better at the time. But our Hondas stayed together without much maintenance. And they performed their little hearts out. We rode them everywhere, enough to know if we were gonna stick with the two wheeled thing. Then we got our reward. Honda brought out that 450,.then replaced the 305 with the CB 350. You could go anywhere on that bike. Kawasaki brought out the three cylinder Mach three two stroke and the mighty Sportster toppled to the ground mortally wounded. The paradigm changing CB750 followed and suddenly everything else seemed kind of irrelevant. Yes Honda was conservative and stuck with their designs for too long, which cost them the mantle of leadership. I’ve owned a lot of Hondas in my day, with a Suzuki and a couple of Kawasakis. Then I made the move to the Milwaukee marvel. I still recall those little Hondas very fondly.
Sounds a bit like my younger brother and myself, except the part about Milwaukee marvel. He even had a 450. I was amazed at the unusual valve springs/adjustment. We even bought a 305, disassembled, at a garage sale for $25. It was complete and we quickly got it on the road. Ah, memories.
His next-to-last bike was not Japanese, but a Triumph Trident. It was soon replaced with a Yamaha RD400. Mine was a BMW R60/5 that I put a lot of miles on over a decade. Current ride is a Yamaha TW200, not licensed for the street.
This is one of the earliest articles that I read on CC in 2012, and it helped to make me a regular reader and eventually a contributor. The CB450 being a motorcycle that I had only read about and seen in a museum, it was great to read a well-researched history of this historically significant model along with a first-hand impression of what it was like when it was new.
The brochure with a dealer stamp with the address “604 W 52nd Street NYC” stood out to me, because I am familiar with that area of Manhattan and cannot imagine a modest dealer of Japanese motorcycles existing there now. There is a boutique BMW motorcycle dealership a few blocks away from that address, but otherwise it is an area of expensive condos and stores. That dealership stamp was just as much a period piece as the CB450 itself.
This is a great article, illustrating how the Japanese manufacturers basically took over the motorcycle market in the US. I love old Honda twins- the CB200T I had until last spring could be, and often was, daily ridden. Amazing for a bike approaching 40 years old.
A guy I work with just bought a Yamaha Raider. This bike has a 1900cc V-twin. Probably half the cars I have owned have had smaller engines.
I had a 65 305 Scrambler as my first street bike around 1976, it was pretty well used up by the time I got it. I think I paid 65.00 dollars for it. It got harder and harder to shift to the point that the top of my toe would get blistered. around 1979 I got a 70 CB 450 that was in beautiful condition with new paint (70’s metallic brown) and only 15k miles on it. Paid 400.00 dollars for it. It had the front disc brake. Only problems I had was a bad starter and starter switch, and I got a noise ticket due to drilled out baffles from the po. I went to the dealer and got a free recall gas cap installed, and then found out how expensive Honda motorcycle parts were. A 75.00 parts bike provided the pipes, switch and starter. All I did was occasionally change the oil in it. That bike was reliable as hell. Did jump the chain once, the sprockets were worn almost smooth, parts bike to the rescue again. Traded it for a rusty 64 VW Squareback with a transmission that popped out of 2nd and 4th gear. The car served it’s purpose for the next couple of years and I was broke and needed a car for work, but I really wish I had kept that bike. The performance numbers in the ad’s were nowhere close to what my bike would do, 90-95 mph tops and no way was it even close to a 13.5 1/4 mile et, although I never timed it. It would numb out my finger and toes from the vibration, but it was a great bike.
1500 mile intervals weren’t short back in those days – the British stuff recommended 1000 miles between changes, and with the crude lubricants of the day and the complete absence of an oil filter on those machines you’d have done well to heed the advice. I’ve cleaned plenty of nasty muck out of the crankshaft galley “sludge traps”, not that long ago on bikes using much better modern oils.
Great article and thread of people’s stories.
We had always had motorcycles from age 4 on. My grandfather was a serious Honda fan and picked up every new model released in the US. They would be handed down to my father and uncle…..unfortunately, they were all long gone by the time I came around.
But a hundred stories were passed along.
In my late 20’s I turned my eyes on to the classic Hondas after being a long-time Honda sport-bike fan/rider. Once I started digging through barns and backyards to find what I was after, my father kept telling me to find some 450’s (which I was already hunting for just due to the look of the big-head motor).
The better part of a decade later, and a lot of building and fine tuning, I have the 3 CB450’s I was really wanting (original black bomber, low production # first year CL450 and a well-built ’71).
They have nearly zero refinement, don’t do anything particularly well, but they sure put a big, idiot grin on my face on any sunny day cruising around the streets or trail-riding the scrambler.
Once you restore them right, and learn the finer points of building and maintaining the motors, they’ll never leave you stranded (I’m heading on 100,000 miles put on them collectively) and always get a few looks while you’re runnimg about.
I have this hobby of customizing old vintage bikes and this is one of the coolest bikes I have witnessed till date. I once purchased this one from a salvage yard and had it customized with pièces moto I bought online. The classic pièce moto turned out to be a beautiful rebuilt version which I later sold to a friend of mine. Vintage bikes are indeed extremely beautiful and powerful!
I purchased my CB-450 in 1966 from Long Beach Honda, CA. I noticed a lean spot in the carburetors. To the dealers credit they really took care of me. They put it on their dynomometer and got the carb mixture to track properly over the entire engine range. When I went to pick it up they showed me on the dyno that it was making 46hp. I drove it 50k miles. I got married had 2 children and sold it. It might still be running somewhere. I drove it fast a lot. 105mph when ever I had somewhere to do that. Ran like a scalded cat and never broke down.
I bought a 450 Scrambler in 1978. Loved that bike. Would by another one if they made a 650 parallel twin today…with big disc brakes.
For those who wrote here that the 450 engine didn’t like to rev, I present this evidence. I’ve owned 450s and drag raced them over the decades and I can assure you, they love to rev – 9500 rpm redline stock, and with even moderate cam grinds will easily turn 10,500 to 11,000 rpm reliably. I ride this bike both on the street and at the drag strip
That is a beautiful bike.
Thanks, there’s a lot of hard work and money in it but it turned out pretty much like I’d been planning for a few decades. I wanted to create a street-legal version of my previous drag bike from the early ’70s, and the only thing that didn’t come out like I would have wanted was the drag strip times… but let’s face it, the bike is about 40 lbs heavier than the stripped down track-only bike then, and I’m about 30 lbs heavier myself LOL. Still, no shame in being beaten by a modern Ninja 650. You can see the entire build at our new website, vintagehondatwins.com. Here’s the drag bike from ’73 to ’75