(first posted 5/18/2018) When I ran across these shots of this Gräf und Stift Austrian Post bus from the 1950s at the Cohort (posted by T Minor), I had to stop and savor the flood of memories it triggered of riding in buses like this one as a little kid. And not just in the bus itself, but also in a trailer bus that one of them was towing. Now that was something different, and not something one sees in the US; but it’s still being done by Post buses 60 years later.
These were one of three common types used by the Austrian Post to provide service to every little town and village on a daily basis, hauling the mail and passengers. The smallest one was the Steyr 380, which I’ve already covered here. They were powered by a four cylinder diesel with 85-90 hp.
The Steyr 380 stayed around the longest, because it could navigate some of the extremely narrow and hairpin curved roads in the Alps that the modern buses were simply to big for. I seem to remember reading about some of these being used well into the 80s on a few remote routes, if not into the early 90s. The ones used on the scenic routes had a giant sunroof and additional glass. This was in the pre-global warming era. Now it’s air conditioning.
The Gräf und Stift 120 OGL was one of two larger buses. The “120” in its name refers to its horsepower, from a very durable inline six diesel. This design dates back to 1937, and was built in large number during the war, to be used in Germany, as it was held in high regard.
Here’s a short video that gives you a good sense for how these noisy old-school diesels sounded like, as well as the distinctive ta-da, ta-da horn that was sounded on the many blind hairpin curves. One could hear their horns echoing off the valley walls when we used to spend summer vacations in a little Alpine village.
That was my signal to run past the backyard to watch the bus appear ’round its last curve as it made its daily trip into Ladis. That was also the cue for my father to take his daily stroll to the old hotel in the center of the village to buy the fresh newspapers that the post bus brought and was our only contact with the rest of the world.
There was also a “Glockner” version of the G&S 120 bus, to be used on the famous high Glockner mountain route. It had a shorter wheelbase, and the sunroof and extra glass. It also had an auxiliary transmission in addition to the standard five speed, to better handle the mountains. But the venerable 120 PS motor was simply overtaxed, so most of them were re-powered with a newer 145-150 hp G&S engine.
I’m not sure this romantic rendering is of any specific brand, but it gives a sense of the role these buses played. They were not only the vital link for mail and passengers in the mountains, but made the Alps accessible to tourists, who back then rarely arrived in their own cars.
Here’s a couple of vintage snapshots of the parking lot at the top of the Grossglockner road, with a view of the famous mountain. There’s a slew of post buses and a few cars. It would seem that the Post had something of a monopoly on this route, or maybe it was just by far the cheapest way to get there.
The third bus make was the Saurer, built by the Austrian branch of the legendary Swiss truck builder. These appear to be the same size as the G&S 120; in fact the bodies may well be essentially identical. The Saurer had a 130 hp diesel.
During the summer tourist season, trailers were hitched to the back of these buses, although only down in the valleys. I can’t find a picture of an Austrian one, but here’s a German MAN with a passenger trailer. I remember the first time I got to ride in one; that was a big deal. I was a major bus fanatic in my Austrian years (up to age seven).
Here’s how this rig looks from the back. Needless to say, these rigs probably never exceeded 35 or so mph.
And post buses in Austria and Switzerland are still hauling trailers like that today.
Here’s one just a bit outside Innsbruck, and probably right about where I rode in that post bus trailer 60 years ago.
But back then I was at the front window of the trailer, listening (and inhaling) the big Gräf und Stift diesel’s noisy exhaust, wondering if it was going to make it up that next rise in the road. It did, slowly; and with plenty of smoke.
If you want to see what it’s like to drive or ride in a modern Post bus, here’s video of one at work in Switzerland.
Nice, that is one noisy diesel and horn.
The hills are alive with the sound of music, indeed. I can just imagine one of these interrupting Julie Andrews as she winds up to sing.
“How do you solve a problem like Mari…VROOM!!!”
Diesel exhaust has an intoxicating aroma.
hmm, thought the older one in your pix looked a bit familiar.
That’s the first thing I thought too
Read the book 30 years ago, never saw the movie, and it was the first thing I thought of too…
I love the sound of that horn! Was there a practical reason for having the multiple tones? I guess to alert oncoming traffic around the blind curve that the horn they were hearing is a bus and not a small car?
That horn is a mighty reminder the bus is coming through! Europe is just full of cool stuff like that horn.
I can just imagine a 120 bhp diesel pulling itself and a trailer up any kind of grade. My late father had a habit of saying, “Well, with the right gearing, a one horsepower engine can pull a train up a hill.” I was at least fourteen until I said, “Dad, how steep is the hill and how fast is the train going?”
Very enjoyable post. Really like that older MAN with the trailer.
Another trip down Memory Lane, thank you. I remember the motor noise and the horns of those Post Buses- German, Austrian, or Swiss.
I knew that Archduke Franz Ferdinand was riding in a Gräf und Stift car when he was assassinated, but I never gave any thought to what other vehicles G&S might have built.
Gräf & Stift continued to make luxury cars until the late 1930s. Here’s a 1936 model.
I didn’t really think the MAN with trailer was a trolley bus, but those flagpoles behind it were puzzling for a second.
Niagara Falls Ontario used to have a fleet of buses with trailers that were used as a tourist shuttle.
I passed this article on to a friend who spent time in Germany in the 1970s. He said he’d ridden in post buses like this one.
That’s an FBW C40U (FBW was a Swiss company).
Great post! Probably my favourite Austrian marque (for their cars). They held on with buses for quite a while, too.
It’s funny how alike Austria seems to be to Switzerland. I lived in the latter country, so I knew of the Post bus, but I never knew Austria (which I only visited once, about 20 years ago) had a similar system.
The trailer thing is still being used in the city of Lausanne on their city buses and trolleys. Lots of Lausanne is as steep and tight as these Alpine hairpins, which might explain why they still do it like that.
I don’t know how I missed this the first time out .
Those old buses look -so- beautiful .
Thanx for the links, my first thought was that cheesy old war flick with Dirty harry in it….
-Nate
This brings back memories. I went to school in Britain for a couple of years in the 1960’s, and one of my classmates was from Salzburg. He invited a couple of us to come to Austria over the Christmas vacation and spend a week skiing.
I can’t remember how other people got there, but I hitchhiked – a memorable 4 day experience in itself. We ended up at a small hotel on Hochkonig, just above the village of Muhlbach, a hour or so south of Salzburg. This was a totally different time – the era of ‘Europe on $5 a Day’. In this case, accommodation, food, and use of the primitive lifts cost us only the equivalent of £1 / $3 per day. Even by the standards of the time this was bizarre value.
One morning I skied down the snow-covered road into Muhlbach, just to explore the small town. I timed my trip so that I could take the bright yellow post bus that came up the winding mountain road every afternoon. A glorious day for an 18 year old.
Continents apart but those remind me of the “Jammers” used in US National Parks long ago, and even currently. The Rainier one actually has Kenworth badges on it, the Yellowstone one is a White. Never been on one, but they’re beauties, seen them a number of times in my travels.
Now to see if the pics go thru…
Well, one went thru. Here’s the Yellowstone one, if it works.
Fast forward to 2024 and the picture is muddled because some lines are operated by the Österreichische Postbus AG and some by private operators – all part of regional “traffic unions” serving specific regions. So where I live we have the VOR (Verkehrsverbund Ost-Region) which caters for the federal states of Vienna (yes, Vienna has a double status as a city and state), Lower Austria and Burgenland. They all have the same livery so there’s no telling whether the bus belongs to the Postbus fleet or someone else unless you look harder (this is “my” bus which in this case belongs to a local country operator, CEPERA). same tariffs whether you take a bus or use the train and very efficient but without the characterful old liveries…
And how ‘distinctive’ public transport buses are these days! Same Setra model below, driving around in my region (photo courtesy of harry_nl, posted on flickr).