Here’s a bus that maybe a few of our “more senior” CC readers in North America (yours truly included) may have hitched a ride in back during the 1970’s – 80’s. It’s a Twin Coach TC-series intermediate coach manufactured by Highway Products Inc. from 1968 to 1975.
You may be wondering how this bus acquired its “Twin Coach” name, as that was a proprietary term that belonged first to the Fageol-Twin Coach Corp from the 1920’s until the early 50’s, and then to Flxible, which purchased Fageol’s bus and coach division in 1953. The name Twin Coach was initially used on a twin-engined bus made by Fageol in the 1920’s.
After the incorporation of Twin Coach, Flxible marketed its line of intercity coaches as “Flxible-Twin Coach” for most of the 1950’s – but dropped the name in 1963.
Highway Products Inc. was part of the remnants of the old Fageol Truck Corporation which had soldiered on after selling its bus division to Flxible. By the beginning of the 1960’s it was significantly smaller, and building mostly delivery vans, postal buses, marine engines, and pursuing military contracts. In 1970, it was sold to Alco Standard Co., which kept the Highway Products name.
In the late 1960’s the company identified an opportunity in the intermediate-sized intercity bus market, as the federal government was then starting to offer mass-transit grants to smaller cities and towns. They focused on a 25/29-seat passenger model, rear-engined, that was structurally capable of being fitted with a wheelchair lift/ramp as required under the forthcoming Urban Mass Transportation Act of 1970. They saw potential sales to small cities that didn’t need a larger coach, to major metro areas as a cross-town model, as an entry in the burgeoning para-transit market, and as an airport or university shuttle.
The company wanted to use the Twin Coach name, as in their view it still had some residual brand value. Flxible either gave the rights to the name back, or charged them a nominal fee. Dimensions were typical of small buses – 24 feet in length and 96 inches wide. The wheelbase remained the same on both the 25 and 29 pax models – the 25 seat model having a row of seats removed for a rear door.
The bus initially sold in fairly good numbers; the city of Parkersburg, West Virginia converted most of their fleet to TC-25/29s. But there was one drawback. The only engine offered was a Chrysler 440 cubic inch gas V8 – a commercial variant similar to the one used in Dodge trucks. It was rear-mounted in a longitudinal “T” manner. For some reason, the company never offered a diesel option. As a result, it was less competitive and sales dwindled.
After some 900 coaches were built, the company declared bankruptcy in 1975.
Interestingly, in 1970 Alco Standard also purchased the rights to the Cortez Motor Home from Clark Industries and the Kent, Ohio factory was used to build both buses and motor homes from 1970 – 75. Paul has an excellent post on the Cortez here.
Excellent profile on a somewhat rare model. The basic design looks remarkably similar to the much later Transmark RE, manufactured by ElDorado National of Riverside California and Salina, Kansas.
You’re right Daniel – there’s a Eldorado post in the queue – should be coming up in next few weeks…
Despite a very utilitarian look, it still has a certain charm, perhaps due to its length (or lack thereof)…I have no idea if I’ve ever ridden on one (probably not) but still enjoyable to read about. A good addition to the bus series here.
I do remember seeing these somewhere or another in the ’70s, but I can’t pin it down where.
Gas only was not a good call especially after 1973. No wonder they went belly up in 1975.
It’s ironic the original Twin Coach seemed to have a bit of an aversion to diesel engines, instead pushing their proprietary Fageol ‘High Compression’ OHC 6 cylinder gasoline/propane engine. I believe Twin Coach did sell a few buses with Leyland diesels in the U.S., but I have never seen one.
Holy molly, that little blue thing looks like it’d do wheelstands with a 440 out yonder and a leadfooted driver up front. Perhaps it was passenger complaints of too much transiting being done on a tilt combined with the need to have a petrol station at the end of every second block that caused the bankruptcy.
Btw, that very cool Fageol Superfreighter van, which looks like a corner apartment that fell of the top of the Empire State, is also very intimidating.
Thanks for posting this; As a PSU student in the early ’80s, I worked as a Campus Loop driver. #1337 pictured above actually had a 4-53 Detroit Diesel in it, as did two others in the fleet – #1339 and #1497. #1338 was a propane-powered Mopar (maybe a 440 per the above – although we were told it was a 318). We were also told #1497 was one of the last made, a fully-optioned “demo” purchased new by the University – so if that was true, that would have meant the Detroit was installed at the factory. By the mid-90s I think they were all scrapped except for #1338 which the Alumni Association kept going on football weekends.
Love the back story of these buses. I recently purchased 1 of the 20 or so Alco-Standard Kent Cortez Twin Coach Motorhomes manufactured. The motorhome is built on the Twin Coach 25 (TC-25 bus frame) and has the Chrysler Industrial 413 and the 727 3-speed automatic transmission. I’ve scoured the internet and have only found 1 other original motorhome (there are several bus-RV conversions on the the road that came with diesel engine and the Allison transmission.
Looking forward to hitting the road this coming year and the looks we will get.
Hey Chad, sorry for the random message. My name is Adam. I’ve currently purchased a 1 of the 20 1971 TC-25 Alco-Standard Kent Cortez Twin Coach Motorhomes. I found it in Birmingham Alabama. It was saved from the scrap yard by the gentleman I bought it from. Apparently it’s been sitting for over 20 years ,but supposedly was running when parked. It looks very similar to yours, well exactly like yours except for it is green. I do believe it has a 413 Chrysler industrial big block ,but I’m not sure. It could be a 440 ,but I guess I’ll find out when I receive delivery of the coach. Anyways the reason I’m messaging is because I seems to not be able to find any information, club or group associated with this coach. I have not received the coach yet as I am arranging for the coach to be transported to me here in Knoxville Tennessee. The body seems to be in good to fair condition. The inside looks to be the biggest part of the project ,but everything is there including all of the paperwork and records. I will be attempting to restore the coach. I’m a 32-year-old bus fanatic. One of my dreams was to restore and own my own vintage coach. So I could not pass this coach up. So I’ve saved all my money and went for it. Everyone thinks I’m crazy because I just bought an old bus especially my wife and mom ,but I don’t care. I am no master mechanic by any means. I just know the basics like changing brakes, oil changes, maybe changing a starter, radiator or fuel pump etc. Very simple things like that so I’m a bit nervous, but I think with a little bit of patience, time and of course money I can do it. I just need a little bit of guidance and wisdom from someone whom is familiar and actually owns one of these very rare and special coaches. Would you please consider sharing with me any tips or knowledge you may have before I start this adventure? Also would you happen to know of any organizations, clubs or groups I can join? Do you know where I can find more information and also parts for this coach? I was going to post this message on the page ,but I thought I should message you personally. Any information or knowledge you share with me will be highly appreciated. Thank you ,sincerely Adam.
Hey Chad, sorry for the late reply. I lost your email as my phone caught on Fire. I did try to locate your email with no luck. So I figured I would wait until i get everything first before contacting you again. I finally received delivery of my Twin Coach TC-25 rv along with all of the manuals / paperwork Just a few days ago. There Is quite alot of paperwork that i received with the coach. More then I expected. I want to make sure i keep my Word. So now i need to figure out how to get all of these manuals booklets and paperwork printed and sent to you. If possible can you email me again? Tanks.
Adam,
thanks for the follow up. I will email you my contact info
Chad
Chad, Do you still own the Cortez Twin Coach?
Yes, it’s going through a complete mechanical upgrade (engine is being rebuilt, rebuilt transmission, new brakes, etc.). Goal is to have it on the road in the spring
The information is somewhat incorrect. Highway Products ultimately offered both TC-25 and TC-31 models. The 31 passenger buses had quite long platforms, that with their combined air over leaf spring suspension made them behave quite like teeter totters. They also ultimately offered a diesel option which used Detroit 4-53 series engines. I once owned 18 of them, purchased second hand from Rock Island, Illinois. We used them in sightseeing and charter bus service for awhile in Baltimore, MD. They looked like this when in service for the Rock Island County Metropolitan Mass Transportation District. (RICMMTD)
Les, I have recently purchased/ rescued a 1972 twin coach cruiser. The best I can tell it’s the tc-25 with the Chrysler 440 gas engine automatic. I think its a 3 speed, I also believe it has AC. I’m finding it very difficult to find any information on it. The serial number has absolutely no letters in it. 25278. In researching it is a 25 seat, 27′ v-8 I need to know where I can get any specs on it. If you know where I can get any info. or manuals it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
This is what the looked like when running for American Excursion Services/Baltimore Sightseeing. They were all 1973 TC-31s with 4-53 Detroit diesels.
What’s this. What year? And likely drivetrain? Has an over under knob on the stick shift. Seems to be a prose built motor home. Has cool storage lockers built in on back.
That is a Highway Post Office bus comissioned by the USPS in the early 1970’s, and sometime in the vehicles life the motorhome conversion was performed. Its unlikely a factory MH, but most certainly a conversion.
Google ‘Highway Post Office” to get more info, a few manufacturers built vehicles for the USPS fleet back then.
Now, as for what brand this particular bus is, I could not tell you as owners even have trouble identifying what company they were built under, but there are clues out there along with sistership buses.
https://www.skoolie.net/forums/f11/ski-hawk-1966-highway-post-office-38221.html
I just rescued a 1972 twin coach cruser transit bus. I’m having a hard time finding any information on it. the serial no. doesn’t have any letters on it. it’s a 25/27. it has a gas v-8 & it only has one narrow door in the front. It looks like the Stadium model TC-25. it has been setting for about 30 yrs but ran when parked. can anyone help me.
I have a TC-25 that used to be a Kodak Company Shuttle Bus. These things are simple.