NOTE: Not my Grand Prix, but very close.
In the early spring on 1996, with the Escort on its last legs and my (not) cost saving ownership about at an end, it was time to car shop earlier than planned. The Escort, with its body rot, was drivable, but I was on borrowed time. I started out considering a brand new 5 speed manual Sunfire GT and test drove one at Rinke Pontiac and liked it. But…after the salesman wanted to stretch me out to a 72 month note and a still too high monthly payment, common sense prevailed, and I decided to shop preowned.
Yet again, staying in the GM world, I wanted something that was a bit bigger, and more substantial. I was thinking W-Bodies: Monte Carlos, Cutlass, Regal. But the standout to me was the Grand Prix. GM had a refresh with the 94’s inside and out and toned down and cleaned up the widely panned excessive body cladding that was a terrible disease amongst Pontiac designers of the day. The interior was refreshed in what was a more sensible layout with better (and fewer) switchgear and higher quantity materials. In my opinion it was the best proportioned and most athletic looking of the all the W bodies.
I ended up spying a white Gran Prix on the used car lot at Key Oldsmobile-Nissan-Isuzu (now a mosque). Built in 1965, it looked more like a ski lodge than a car dealership, but it must have really been something back then. It was the sportier SE model with body cladding and the boy racer in me was immediately drawn to it. And with just 14,000 miles on it, it was a creampuff in old school automotive parlance. And coming from hooptie life in the Escort, it was a quantum leap in every way.
I test drove it, threw out a low-ball offer which was emphatically not accepted (they rarely are), got on the losing end of a stare down, then walked out. But this was “the one” and I kept thinking about it. Days later I called Key’s used car sales office back using a fake, gruff voice and asked if it was still there – it was. Then I abruptly hung up. Then in my normal voice called again a few hours to set up another visit. “Was that you who called a few hours earlier,” they asked. “What? Me, uh…no”. Why I exhibited this very strange behavior I cannot say. I came back on a Saturday and I got it for $13,200 + tax, netting me a payment of $242.00 per month, manageable. They even gave me $300 for the Escort. This was a smokin’ deal. I saved thousands over buying a new Grand Prix or even the Sunfire I cross-shopped.
1963 Pontiac Grand Prix – The Real ‘Prix!
Life was good in my new wheels and it was the nicest car I’d ever had. Driving it? It looked sporty but wasn’t. It was nothing like the iconic Grand Prix that debuted back in 1962. All the fun and mystique surrounding the marquee had long since been platform-engineered and wrung out of it. Performance from the 160 HP “60 degree” 3.1-liter V-6 was adequate, with a 0-60 time of just under 9 seconds. Economy was OK for a larger size car, somewhere in the mid-20s on the highway. It was roomy, comfortable, and had a pleasant sporty sounding burble from the dual exhaust. A 10-disc CD player in the trunk and better speakers were soon added from Mickey Schorr’s Car Audio.
A short time after ownership, I started noticing something strange. The front passenger wheel was rubbing on the inside of the wheel well during left turns. Figuring this was a warranted issue, so off to a local Pontiac dealer it went. I got a call a few hours later from the local Pontiac dealership, and the news wasn’t good. The car had been in an accident, or someone had driven it over something very immovable, like a parking block or big rocks. The engine cradle was bent, as were control arms, and a bunch of other suspension bits that were bad that I can’t remember 22 years on. Feelings of anger that I’d been had set in. I got the diagnosis in writing and called Key Old’s and set up a time to sort this out.
The dealership general manager, salesmen, service manager and used car manager were all there. The remediation of this issue was level-headed and handled professionally. I sensed a desire to make it right and through this, I found out something very interesting. I asked why this issue wasn’t caught before they put it on the lot for sale. At least back then, Michigan law stated that a dealer didn’t have to inspect the car, legally speaking. They bought it at auction, prepped it, and it was on the lot with a for sale sign the next day.
So, Option 1: they would take the car back, provided I bought another used car from them. They would work out the financials and give me a deal on another car. Option 2: they would repair the car at no charge. Their own suspension tech agreed with about 75% of the other dealer’s service assessment. Nothing else there on the used lot was even remotely interesting so I decided to keep it and accept the repairs. They gave me a loaner during the fix and in a couple of days, the car was ready. As I drove off, I noticed that my old Escort was still there along a back fence, looking very unloved and sad. I sure hope it died peacefully.
All told, I had the car for almost six years, from 1996 to early 2002, more than long enough to pay it off and keep it long after. I was putting on 18-20,000 miles a year, a lot of it work related. And a lot happened to Carlsberg66 during that ownership period, most of it good.
At the time of purchase, I was weeks away from finishing my MBA, after five years of night school. My 30th birthday was coming that August. At that point, I had a very steady girlfriend, and love was in the air. I was getting yearly raises at work as well as more responsibility. I liked what I did, and the people I worked with. It was the roaring 90s, the economy was booming and anything seemed possible. About eighteen months later, in the fall of 1997, I cobbled enough cash together, about $7,500, to finally get into my first house. I guess I was finally a grown up.
I was married in June of 1998 to a girl I met at work. We had a lot of fun times in that car as a young, childless and carefree couple. In 2000, we moved into our second house, where we remain today. In 2001, we welcomed our first child, a boy, Adam, and he took many trips in the backseat as an infant.
It was a generally reliable car until about 100,000 miles. The transmission failed, and I wrote a $2,500 check to fix it. About 18 months later, I endured a major combination punch to my pocketbook. After work one cold winter day as I was pulling out of a filling station, I put it in drive then WHAM… another transmission failure and another $2,500 check. It had 134,000 miles on it, and I was hoping for another couple of years of use with the new tranny. After that fix, maybe a month later, it threw a rod and the car was basically worthless, at least to me. The body and general condition were still very good. Mechanic Randy at the corner shop who services all my cars to this day gave me $1,000 for the car. He swapped in a rebuilt 3.1 and his daughter drove that damn car for another 4 years with a new heart.
While this won’t go down as a great ownership experience due to costly repairs, and ultimately a life-ending catastrophic powertrain failure, I still have a lot of fond memories of the Grand Prix. It was a good time of my young life. Many have a tremendous amount of affection for the Pontiac brand and its history. It was sad to see it go quietly into the night back in 2009. Anyway, it was time to car shop again. Would this be the time I finally broke away from GM, daring to be different?
I think six years and over 100,000 miles without major issues until the end is not a bad ownership experience. We’ve all had cars that we’ve liked or been in the circumstance that we wanted that extra time as you had.
And therefore we make repair decisions that we might not do otherwise.
That doesn’t make it a bad ownership experience. That makes it the gamble known as life.
Sounds like things got a bit rough at the end, but 100k is nothing to sneeze about, and Detroit driving is tough on cars. Kudos to the dealership for putting things right with the front sub-frame, as I’m not sure that most would have treated you that well. It probably wasn’t in an accident, but was driven down Mound road or some other pothole hell for the first two years!
Yes, the big repair bill represents a terrible dilemma on a car like this. We have all heard the stories about that one big bill and the car runs for a long time with little trouble. And that story like this one where it turns out to be the first of multiple big bills. I always think of Dirth Harry: “Do ya feel lucky?”
Its funny i was also driving a 94 w body during the exact same period of my life. From 06-2011 (during which I established my IT career,got marrired got my first house and had my first child) I had a 94 Regal sedan with the 3800 v6. That car felt like a rocket (in 1st gear ) got 25-32mpg and went from 74k-200k with no major issues. What did it in was getting rear ended (no injuries thankfully). It was a great car for that time of my life.
It would of been nice if I could of owned a GM car with the 3800 at some point. A legend. A friend had a 2000 Regal GS with the 3800 supercharged. A true wolf in sheep’s clothing…lasted well over 130,000 miles before he gave it to a nephew where it went a few more years.
The 3800 was a gem but equal credit has to be given to the 4T60E transmission. It’s the most responsive automatic I’ve ever driven and it brought out the best in the 3800. It’s still the only car I’ve ever owned that can snap your neck back and kick you back in your seat on takeoff (and I now have a 280 HP v6 accord). Yea after 1st gear it couldn’t keep up but from 0-45 it felt as quick or quicker than any of the 250+ HP japanese v6 sedans from that time.
The 3800 also was very great on gas. I would easily get 32mpg highway. Its magic was its abundant low end torque you could roll along keeping speed constany at a super low rpm and save a ton on gas. My 15 accord with a 20 year newer design with vtec, ohc, 6 speed auto gets about the same mpg in real world driving. Progress all went tp that 110hp difference i guess lol
That was a great read over a cup of coffee this morning.
The dealership building is till a point of architectural interest. Quite the eyecatcher!
I give the dealership credit for putting things right after the sale. I would have expected a big fight over this.
The 3.1 was known for failing intake manifold gaskets. Otherwise it was a decent engine. I am kind of surprised it threw a rod. You may have dodged the bullet of a failing IM gasket (about $1000 to fix) but the grenading transmissions made up for that. Still this Grand Prix was a good car for doing 18 to 20 K per year.
And too your life took a very positive trajectory. There are plenty positive memories to associate with the car. That makes it truly a car of your lifetime.
One last thing: that Escort most likely did not die peacefully. No need to sugarcoat that! Lol.
No, no; the Escort went to a farm in the beautiful Upper Peninsula where it spent its final years pulling trailers full of fluffy bunnies and ducks around a happy petting zoo. 😉
I had 2 w body oldsmobile 1995 and 1997 that were good cars some day I’d like to do a coal on them .
Too bad the replacement trans failed to be a quality replacement. Was it a used or rebuilt replacement? I probably would have given up on the car after the replacement trans failed. But the dealership owned up to the damage and made good, that was a big plus!
Great read!
That is a really nice looking car. This roofline and airy greenhouse makes this series of GM coupes one of my favorites. They remind me of the first gen Acura Legend coupes. I wish that modern cars had big windows like this.
That’s a good looking car! I had an ’89 with a 5 speed. Nothing special, and got it cheap because no one wanted a manual. It was a good car during the time we had it. Got great mileage and was peppy enough. The bigger six would’ve been nice to have. Our other car (around 2000-2001) was a ’95 Olds Ciera with the 3.1. For the heck of it my wife and I drag raced once from a stoplight with me in the Pontiac. I am tight with a manual but by 50 she was more than a car length ahead. Not bad for a 30-something horsepower disadvantage with the GPs 2.8. I have often raced in slow cars. It is relatively safe and you don’t attract too much attention. Plus I usually had a slow car, which is why I am not dead yet. Ten years ago I often raced in my ’05 Taurus against a guy at work who had a new Yaris (manual). We fought tooth and nail up to about 65 and no one probably knew there was a race going on as we were both slow. I had an advantage off the line, especially if the ground was wet and I could coax wheelspin to get my revs up. But I had a big gap after first gear and he had more gears and would start to pass. I probably would have gotten him on top end but then it wouldn’t be a friendly race and be more dangerous. (We did it getting on the highway after midnight shifts when that road was empty). By the way, since this is a boring read anyway I will throw more boring at ya. My Taurus with the Vulcan was quicker on E-85. It isn’t reported to be and there is less energy in it and all that but I am telling you…Every time I had it in my tank I beat him. Without 87 octane I did not. Never ran high octane gas so I don’t know. Sorry about the long post and the getting away from the GP points. I never have a chance to tell that story!
I’d drive one of those with a 3800.
I am glad the car worked out for you.
I am pretty sure it was one on those damn parking blocks. I think they should be outlawed as they cause no end of trouble. Most modern parking lots make the parking spaces almost too small and if you don’t pull up to the top of the space the butt of your car sticks out. I find this still the case with my Elantra(which is a smaller car) Of course the smallest spaces have those parking blocks and it will damage your car pulling up over them.
I was actually on a jury in a trial against a man that was caught stealing a bunch of them from a parking lot. each one of these dumb things were $100 to buy and another $50 to install so this guy was looking at felony charges. I deadlocked the jury because all the other folks wanted to convict and I wanted to acquit and give him a medal for taking these menaces off the road.
Anyway, if you look too hard at a GM engine cradle, the thing will shift and be off.
I would not have paid for the trans repair a second time. I would have used the money as a down payment on a new car and been done with it.
It was a roll of the dice to replace the transmission the second time. However the car was running fine otherwise and was paid off. You win some , you lose some I guess.