In our last episode I had bid adieu to my Simca 1204 and headed for an extended stay in ‘Yurrop’, as the thrice great Henry Manney of R&T fame liked to call it. My stay there lasted for several months trailing into years and included stints in Torino, homeland of FIAT and Lancia, and Milano, home of Alfa Romeo. Sadly lack of funds precluded the purchase of even the most forlorn of these as it seemed I’d taken an unintentional vow of poverty without reading the fine print. Consequently, my chief mode of transportation was public, which actually works fine in Italy as the system is robust with tentacles reaching anywhere (almost) that you would consciously choose to go.
Notwithstanding my penury, for any tifoso Italy is still the promised land, it goes without saying. If I couldn’t drive the bloody red cars, as the Brits dubbed them, I could certainly look at them. I visited the FIAT and Lancia works, Alfa headquarters, the track at Monza, and the National Auto Museum in Torino. I was on hand at the main FIAT showroom in central Torino when the X-1/9 was unveiled. I wept at the sight of a Lamborghini Miura parked on a side street in Moncalieri that looked like it had been painted with a mop. I gained a great appreciation for Italian engineering and Italian style. And all of that was only a subset of the language and culture of my adopted homeland. I became a lifelong Italophile.
The reasons for this Italian sojourn are beyond the scope of this Curbside Classic, but to some extent it was fueled by the fact that my brother, he of Impala SS, Pontiac GTO, and speeding tickets fame, was shipped off to Vietnam by the US Army, never to return. Subsequently, by 1972, three of his four surviving siblings were living in Europe for complicated reasons, some rooted in politics, some in sorrow. Nonetheless, by the summer of 1974 I was ready to return to the troubled shores of the USA. The day I left Milano for the long journey home the morning paper announced Nixon’s resignation, a page marker of sorts, if not a panacea.
I returned to a United States that seemed much changed, although it’s likely I was the one who had changed. I gathered up the pieces of my life, enrolling in college, along with my boatload of Italian credits. One thing I lacked was transportation. Dad had traded in the Simca on a Dodge pickup with a camper shell mounted on the back: that certainly wasn’t going to be the solution. My savings were sparse, but Dad came to my rescue, offering to chip in on some serviceable transportation. Now my father didn’t like used cars–they were nothing but someone else’s long list of trouble so far as he was concerned. If used cars are stricken from the list, that left only one choice. Dad gave me a budget and I started a search. At that time the only automobile dealer in town that carried foreign cars was the local VW establishment, if you didn’t count the captive imports of the time. The homegrown purveyors did present a few choices: the Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth boys had assorted suspect Mitsubishis but any Simcas had long disappeared from the lot. But wait! Ford (or Lincoln Mercury, if you want to get technical) had the German-built Capri . . . and Italian-built DeTomaso, but Dad wasn’t going to spring for something that went for the price of three Buicks. Speaking of Buick, they had the Opel Manta. So, after a delusory look at a forbidden used Triumph TR6, the choice seemed to be between the Capri and the Opel. I loved the styling (and still do) of that vintage Manta, but the build quality seemed a little suspect. Plus, the Capri could be had with a V-6 . . . moar power! And the interior really was a cut above the competition. My one reservation was that no one in the US seemed to know how to pronounce ‘Capri’. In Italian, the emphasis is on the first syllable. This caused no end of irritation, but eventually I gave up trying to correct my well-intentioned friends.
After the usual desultory negotiations (‘what can we do to get you in this car today?’) we arrived at an acceptable figure and the deal was done. Delivered into my hands was one dark brown ’74 V-6 4-speed manual with tan interior; a cassette tape deck was the only option.
The Capri proved to be a pretty good car, at least given the state of the automotive art in the mid-seventies. The Cologne V-6, which oddly enough would reappear in the family Ford Aerostar a couple of decades later, was a solid if not exactly inspiring performer that returned 119 horsepower and fuel economy sometimes in thirties. The Capri was certainly stylish, although its new for 1974 five-mile-per hour bumpers didn’t do the basic shape any favors. The styling obviously was cribbed from the premise of the original Mustang, but it seemed more successful in my eyes than the recently introduced Mustang II, about which the less said, the better. The subsequent ’76 Capri, on the other hand, was a looker, but short-lived in the US for reasons understood only by the corporate wonks at Ford.
So, what was the owner experience like? Well, the little Ford (Mercury) handily survived its first Wasatch Front winter. It was, to be honest, crap in the snow, especially after the front wheel drive Simca, but fwd was still scarce in those days so it was essentially on par with everything else. Once the snow melted and ski season was over the Capri was faced with its first real test: two friends and I had come up with the wild idea for a Road Trip in lieu of Spring Quarter. We even had sanction from the University, who in those less-structured and simpler times often let us do whatever the hell we wanted as long as we turned in a paper at the end of the term. Our proposal was to do a circuit of the continental USA, checking out historical and literary sites along the way, and in doing so provide grist for academic mill. Eventually, we did write up the results of our escapades and somehow received credit, although the details remain murky to this day.
The Capri was our vehicle of choice as out of three possibilities it seemed the one most likely to survive the trip; plus, it wasn’t a pickup truck. Given its dimensions, we were packed pretty tight for a trip of three plus months, but then we were accustomed to traveling light in those days. We headed south to Arizona, turned left at Tucson, and trekked through Texas and the Deep South, spending time in Baton Rouge, New Orleans, and Mobile, Alabama, inside of which we were stuck with the Memphis Blues, again. From there we spent time on the Florida beaches (more research) before heading up the East Coast with stops in South Carolina, Washington D.C, New York, and Cambridge, Mass (‘our fair city’), where we crashed in a friend’s Harvard dorm before continuing into the nether reaches of New England, arriving eventually in Canada, specifically in Montreal and Toronto. In due course we made it back down into the lower forty-eight with stops in Chicago, Milwaukee, and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, taking on the Midwest and then back to the Rockies, looming in the distance.
Our Capri swallowed the miles without complaint, although a troublesome shimmy developed in the front end that stops to a couple of Ford dealers failed to address (‘they all do that’). The upholstery on the backs of the rear seats cracked in the Florida sun and was replaced under warranty. The only other issue occurred when the car appeared to completely disappear one morning on the first of April, but that proved to be only a misguided prank on the part of my buddies. (Travel tip: do not inform your friend that his car has been stolen 2500 miles from home and expect laughter.)
One other development came during a stop in Maryland where I caught up with a certain young woman I’d met in Trieste the year before. One thing led to another, we came to an understanding, and then an engagement, a fact ultimately not alluded to in my official term paper.
Which leads us to the next Capri road trip, which ended in a wedding sometime later that same year. I posted a note on the travel bulletin board in the Student Union: “Wanted, passengers, preferably with drivers license in hand and no criminal charges pending, for a trip to the Mid Atlantic region. Please leave drugs at home.”
A response was soon forthcoming, some bloke and his girlfriend both with valid drivers licenses, an important item due to the fact that I was planning on driving straight through to Maryland. In theory, they also weren’t carrying drugs, although that fact remains somewhat hazy. They showed up at the indicated time and place and we were off to the races, or at least the East Coast. One fact the couple conveniently neglected to mention was that girl couldn’t drive a stick. Ostensibly, that removed one driver from the equation, but they both laughed and insisted that she was perfectly willing to learn–how hard could it be? The answer came somewhere in a Denny’s parking lot in Lincoln, Nebraska, where the Capri faced the most difficult trial of its short life, as her clutch came very close to complete disintegration. The girl (and I!) ended up in tears as the boyfriend, much to my chagrin, berated her for her complete inability to make a simple standing start. She never did get the hang of it, so we were down to to two bleary-eyed drivers for the 36 hour drive. I sincerely hope that said girl dumped that jerk, but I never heard from either of them again so I couldn’t say.
The return trip back West was much more memorable, with only two newlyweds aboard. Happily, the bride in question had awesome clutch skills as she had grown up on a steady diet of VW Beetles and Microbuses. The little Capri remained in our care for another couple of years (including a trip to the inaugural Long Beach Formula One Grand Prix in 1976), at which point its liabilities came into focus. We needed more room as the family began to grow and so, notwithstanding my Dad’s conventional wisdom, I found a low miles Saab 99 that seemed to meet our every requirement, although I don’t remember exactly what those were. Certainly, it was a hundred percent better in the snow and it had seat heaters, a feature that seemed heaven-sent when the temps dropped below zero, plus the rear seat folded down and you could haul a cubic ton of stuff. And on a side note, Henry Manney had given the 99 his blessing usually reserved for big Citroën Basking Sharks and the like. And so, we sold the Capri to some kid down the road and settled into Swedish bliss.
The addendum to this tale is that some months later we passed the home of the new owner of the Capri . . . and there she was, resting in the drive, her front end pretty much pushed into the firewall, completely destroyed. Sometimes it’s best not to know the fate of your treasured memories.
Great story, great car. The Capri was very popular here in the UK, without those awful 5mph bumpers! I tried hard to get my Dad to buy one but a new car was always going to be a no. You can still find them on EBay and the likes occasionally, but they are like hen’s teeth these days. One guy here is restoring one on you tube, check him out, search Rusty Love.
If I didn’t have to run such questionable pursuits past my ever skeptical and rational wife, I would find a a nice ’74 Capri to restore myself. However, I imagine such a task would be better undertaken in either of its native countries, whether the UK or Germany. Will definitely check out Rusty Love, though!
Nice cars and like the Escorts, crazy wild excellent driving experience …my one was a small block Windsor 5 litre V8 along the lines of the Mustangs. A nice fresh one with extractors etc. and had a Toyota 5 speed box.
And it absolutely flew….I saw a similar yellow one at the Targa Tassie which had 500 HP and the dude was saying if he could put something bigger than 225s on it he could take the Porsches…and maybe he could? They are very light and beautiful to drive fast, mine had about 300 HP I guess and the rear was well alive, it was a car you steered with your feet, which I like…it always surprised me how hard other supposedly fast cars were trying when I was just purring along behind them without much effort at all.
Wish like hell I still had it. Am currently driving a V60 Volvo in-line five turbo diesel…such is life. Nice seats…. .
Great story…I want to hear more about that around-the-country road trip. That sounds epic, and I hope you took photos. I too come from a time and place where a trip like that could be done “for credit” in college. It’s debatable as to whether that was a good thing or not, but it certainly did encourage a degree of exploration that college students today do not feel empowered to do.
Your dad’s opinion on used cars…I could have quoted my parents saying the same thing; and they never purchased a used car during the time I knew them. That too is a “time and place” thing that probably speaks to not only changes in how cars are made and financed, but also general public perceptions about their fellow (car-selling) man. I can still recall that “used car salesman” was a general derogatory term used by my parents to designate any shifty, dishonest, individual (or someone they thought was shifty and dishonest). Once again, times change.
Thanks Jeff! Wish I had photos of the world tour, but it seems I neglected to take along a camera, which is probably just as well as most of the existing photos I took in those days would never pass scrutiny in our present day. Still, I wish I had a few for old time’s sake. I agree that it was overall a plus that we had more say in our education back then. We did some amazing things when we were off the leash, so to speak.
I don’t recall the reputation of a new car salesman being much better than that of the used car salesman in those days. Both were highly suspect, and maybe they still are, although I managed to finally find a dealer I felt I could trust, only to have the whole joint sold to a more predatory type, sadly. But I agree, ‘used car salesman’ was certainly an unmatched pejorative whose equivalent may never be surpassed . . .
I really liked these Capris when they came out – at least as an observer, as they were gone (at least in their original form) by the time I was of an age to consider a new car. One turned up next door around 1973 or 74 – and it was a surprise. Its owner had previously driven a 6 cylinder 71 Firebird and before that a 67 Tempest Sprint with the OHC 6, both sticks. They had owned nothing but VWs and Pontiacs for as long as I could remember, but the Dad must have really liked that Capri. His was brown too – it seemed like 90% of the ones I saw were.
Wow, I wonder if my university would have let me go off on a road trip? I suspect that that sort of thing was going away in the 1978-82 period I was there. But the trade-off for my age group was that Viet Nam was long over by the time I hit 18, and so was the draft.
I am trying to remember if I have known of any of my former cars that got totaled.
I think the fact that they were captive imports sold at every small town America Ford-Mercury dealer certainly helped them squeeze into the mainstream. I imagine it was the first import for many owners, and certainly it had many of the attributes on a domestic car, i.e. it was simple and straightforward, but with a sense of style, just like a native pony car.
Glad you missed the very real stress of growing up in the shadow of the draft during the Vietnam era. It was no joke, and left its mark on a generation.
Great morning coffee story and story telling!
These Capri belong to my favorite Ford models. There is one parked in a driveway in front of a garage. The Capri was there when I spotted it in Fall of 1986 and hasn’t moved a fraction of an inch since. The garage got a refresh though. Sometimes I go by there just to have look.
Thanks!
Thank you, Wolfgang! I always puzzle at the heaps that remain parked for decades. I suppose I should understand the desire to eventually get to something, but at some point the law of diminishing returns takes over. The ratio of rust and decay eventually becomes overwhelming. Still, we keep seeing all those garage finds on YouTube, so maybe I’m wrong, again.
My brother-in-law had the 1972 version with the V6 engine. He traded it in for a VW Super Beetle.
He regrets letting go of the Capri to this day.
A Capri for a Super Beetle? That’s one for the books! Aside from coming from the same country, the two had nothing in common. Why, the Capri even had a heater that worked! And a usable gearbox whose first gear wasn’t designed for tree stump pulling. It always seemed like the single virtue of the Beetle was its solid build, but that was also a problem because the damn things lasted forever, well past the point when you were completely sick of their 1930’s virtues . . .
My first car was a 1978 Capri with a V6 when I was still living in Switzerland. I really liked this car and for years I had dreams about my old Capri. So two years ago I bought a 1971 MK1 from Nevada and had it shipped to New Hampshire. I am now restoring this car.
I had a friend who bought a ’78, and the hatchback really did make it more useful than the mail slot conventional trunk in the first version. As I stated, I think they are gorgeous, and certainly better looking than its domestic replacement. It’s a shame they weren’t sold longer, but I suppose the finances didn’t make it feasible . . . who knows? Recalling the Merkur fiasco that followed a few years later, it’s a shame that some sound planning and marketing weren’t involved in Ford’s international endeavors. I suppose it was ever thus.
Good luck with the Mark I! Would love to see photos!
I wish I had more time to work on my “new” Capri, if work wouldn’t get in the way. Even though the car was somewhat drivable when I got it, it does need a lot of work to make it mechanically sound. Body is pretty good with little rust. The interior has a lot of sun damage. I am close to finishing the refurbishment of the dashboard.
“… and Cambridge, Mass (‘our fair city’), …
I like your subtle homage to one of my favorite NPR radio shows “Car Talk” with Tom (RIP) and Ray Magliozzi.
The Capri was a big hit in the NYC metropolitan area. A co-worker got a V6 4 speed in red that was his pride and joy. I even liked the big bumpers because all the new cars had them and new was always a good thing (at least to me).
The original 240Z had small bumpers, but when I was finally able to buy a new Z in 1978 it had huge bumpers that made the originals versions look skimpy. And as I often parked the 280Z on the mean streets of Manhattan, those big bumpers did their job well in protecting the car from park-by-feel New Yorkers.
Such sad news regarding what the Vietnam war cost so many families. If only the human race could learn the lessons that wars should have taught us after all these years. Yet the grief and sorrow continue to this day, important lessons unlearned, just in different places with different names.
The idea of the Federal mandated 5mph bumpers was to protect the cars lights from an accident up to 5mph. A parking bump. Just like the old Nerf bumpers did previously. Problem was all cars had to be the same hight for the idea to work hence the MGB being jacked up an inch.
Thanks for defending those 5mph bumpers.
Tom and Ray are sorely missed. I actually ran into someone last year on a trip east who has her car serviced at their garage.
The ’74 Capri bumpers were maybe some of the best designed of the era, I think because of their polyurethane covering. The chrome railroad ties bolted onto many domestics looked terrible.
My girlfriend had ordered an original Z in 1972, only to have second thoughts when the dealer jacked up the price substantially. She ended up with a Midget, still with the original chrome bumpers at the correct height, thankfully. The later Z’s still looked good with the larger bumpers, but I’m partial to the skimpy ones.
Cars in Italy and France, at least in the city, always seemed to wear battle scars . . . 5 mph bumpers would have made sense, but they would have weighed as much as an entire Cinquecento, I suspect!
As the current war in Ukraine illustrates, all wars are the result of very bad choices most often made by madmen. You’d think we’d learn, but that’s not the experience of my years on earth . . .
Like your passenger, I made my first attempt to learn the art of the manual transmission in a ’74 Capri V-6. I, however, was slightly more successful 🙂
I’ve taught several people to drive a manual . . . my only failure was the young lady in the story, but she was the victim, I think, of limited time available and her jerk of a boyfriend. it ain’t rocket science, after all!
The reference to your brother, lost in Vietnam, is gut-wrenching, especially in the way you expressed it. People lost in war are often statistics or a list of names somewhere, but your brief mention really conveys how the loss of a brother (or father, or son), done in such an arbitrary and bureaucratically driven manner, rips a hole in your life that is not easily mended, and the sense of loss never quite goes away, ever, I am sure.
These days, Capris are few and far between, but they really were a fulcrum around which car-enthused youth made their choices. The Capri may not have always been the chosen car, but it was usually in the short list, new or used.
Thanks for your kind words, Dutch. You are completely right about what happens to the lives in a family forced to deal with unforeseen and unbearable loss. It never really fades . . . each new (and unnecessary) war only emphasizes the arbitrary nature of human failing on a grand scale.
I forget the sales statistics of those first few years the Capri was available in the U.S. but they were impressive, as I recall.
Great stories surrounding an excellent car. “Traveling light” takes a whole new meaning when it’s three people in a Capri for an extended period of time.
I do love me a Capri, but it’s the stories around the cars that makes the COAL. Thanks for the stories in this morning edition.
Thank you, Ed, for your kind support.
Thanks Steven for another great COAL. I was in college from 1972-1977 but never heard of a road trip for credit. I did take my own vacation road trip after graduation, three full-sized males plus camping gear squeezed into my Vega which was perhaps even tighter than a Capri in some dimensions. We were used to doing things like that in those days. By the way your reference to the Italian pronunciation of Capri reminded me of my Mom, who refused to pronounce it in the American way. She had great memories of a visit to Naples and Capri in the early fifties. She too loved Italy, the country, the people and the art and cuisine despite seeming (to me) quite conservative. It was on that trip, or maybe a subsequent one, that she was in an accident as a passenger in a Fiat Topolino, an event which later made her a diligent seatbelt wearer (and seatbelt usage enforcer) and led to the purchase of a Volvo with belts in 1960.
Just returned from a three week hiking trip . . . packed pretty light, and still didn’t really need everything I took. Live and learn.
Glad to hear about your Mom . . . she’s my kind of person. Relieved she survived the crash of a Topolino! Not the sturdiest of cars. No wonder she bought a Volvo. Just saw a small procession of Topolini last week in the Val Gardena!
The Amalfi Coast is one of the most amazing places on earth. Capri certainly was an evocative name for a pony car.
That was a non-stop read, and a good one. Thank you for sharing so much of yourself, Steven.
Thanks F-85! I’ll try to keep them coming.
This car has never really been on my radar, but I’ve always liked the looks. Other than that, I know nothing about them. That yellow with black stripes is very nice.
I recall test-driving a yellow Capri . . . it was loaded with a sunroof and some other stuff–a little too expensive. A bee flew in the window and I nearly ran off the road. My chief memory of that particular hue!
That dark brown is a fetching color on this car. It deemphasizes the 5MPH bumpers.
Agreed! But even on the brighter colors, those bumpers weren’t too bad.
I bought a new 74 Capri in very early 1975. It had a Ford $500 rebate on it too. Mine was a bright electric blue colour with th brown interior and decor package. The car seemed very solid compared to my previous Datsun 510. It was my first new car purchase.
After a short time is was clear that the clutch was a weak point…wouldn’t stay adjusted no mater what plus valve adjustments were frequent. I remember the driveshaft bearing would ring too a certain speeds.
Sold it after 1.5 years for a new Trans Am Firebird!
Interesting, Corners! $500 was a pretty hefty rebate on a $3000 car. Don’t recall if we got any kind of rebate. I agree that the Capri seemed more substantial than the 510. I really liked those Datsuns, but they didn’t seem to hold up that well, at least in the experience of my friend’s that had them.
Don’t recall clutch issues on mine (other than in the included story of abuse), so maybe I dodged a bullet by selling it fairly early on. Don’t recall valve clatter, either, but it was a long time ago. Did you have the 2.0 four or the V-6?
My first car was a 73 Capri 2000, the same color as this one. I loved that car, had it for 5 years. I bought a 77 Capri II to replace it, it it was a major let down. I should have kept my 73. I’d love to find another one now…
My niece had a ’73 2.0 automatic. Definitely a different car, but still pretty spritely with pretty good mileage. What didn’t you like about the ’77? Would be interesting to hear what the differences were.
Great COAL Steven. I really enjoyed your story.
In the early/mid-eighties, I worked with a guy who had one of these, and we would sometimes go to lunch in it. At ten years old, and owned by basically a teenager, it was a little worse for wear, but I could see that it would’ve been a great car in its heyday.
Your car is an absolute doppelgänger to his car. The same in every way, right down to the color combo, and the fact his only option was the tape player, too.
When you said you went to Maryland, for a moment I thought that maybe the “some kid down the road” may’ve been him! The way he drove, it would not surprise me if his Capri ended up like you described!
Thanks, Rick! It really was hard to see the final fate of our Capri. Would rather have remained blissfully unaware, for sure . . .
I had two Capri’s: an I4 and then the V6, which was a much better highway car. Trips in SoCal to the snowy mountains could be scary, but not much different than a Porsche 924. Maintaining both cars mentioned was constant but not terribly expensive. The Capri got me to the 924, which I later sold because it started itself in the garage due to leaking battery acid onto the starter motor’s ground and into the passenger footwell. Today I would call either car a POC.
Steven, I recall working on 924’s in the 80’s and not being terribly impressed with them. Definitely seemed more VW than Porsche, and it’s interesting to think about the Capri in comparison. Objectively speaking, seems like the Capri would have some strong points.
That’s a crazy story about the 924 starting itself. Never heard that one before!
Absolutely loved reading this. Thank you. And now I’ll work on pronouncing it “CA-pri”.
Joseph, sei molto bravo! E grazie mille!!
An interesting car to be sure .
Moms bought her and her hubby a pair of them in 1975 (?) stick shift, I don’t remember them being slow when driven up the turnpike to Maine so maybe V6 ? .
They both came with Firestone 500 steel belted radials, one blew at 85 + MPH as I was driving, Mom work up and asked ‘what happened ?’ .
I’d heard about these new tires being bad and dangerous (“maypop”) but didn’t really believe it until then .
I told her all five were worthless, go get new ones or exchanged/re[placed what ever .
I seem to recall the rear seat being too snug, I have 32″ inseam .
Indeed it was a fun car to drive .
-Nate
Wow, that’s interesting. I still remember that mine came with Pirelli Cinturatos CN-36’s, one of which also blew out within a few weeks of ownership, but it was because I hit some debris on I-15. The dealer replaced it at no cost to me.
The rear seat was tight, but it was a sports coupe, after all!
Steven ;
Back then I was still 6′ tall but I only weighed 106 # so it was cramped but not terribly so .
Mostly I was in the car riding shotgun or driving it .
IMO it was a nice little car .
My younger sister had the same car in the same color inside and out except an automatic of course. It truly was a very nice car at those times Drove it a couple of times always after doing an oil change for her. I don’t know whatever happened to that car though in the 80’s. Your story also made me think about my sister being the only family member I never rode with in a car, with her as driver, and now it is too late.
I did have the chance to drive an automatic, too, as my niece had a 2.0 automatic. Not a bad combination, although I preferred mine. Hers was a’73, so it had the smaller bumpers.
I forgot to leave a comment earlier; this was another very fine read. I could relate to some parts, but fortunately not to others, as in the loss of your brother.
You did well, in taking the Capri. And kudos on getting credit for your trip. The good old days!
Here a shot from the rebuilt dash and upgraded instruments.
Ah, I spy the infamous foot-operated windscreen washer/intermittent wipe, just like my old ’71 Ford Escort had. Not such a great idea on a car with a clutch pedal, but it could have been worse if they had foot-operated parking brakes… Nice job with the dash!
My 78 Capri had an electrical windshield wiper pump. When I realized that the 71 had a foot operated pump I was wondering how well this will work. I had to replace all the cracked hoses from the pump to the nozzles. Then I tested the foot operated pump and I was surprised how well it sprays. Simple technology that works.
I had a couple of the V 6 Capri’s and really enjoyed them. Beat the crap out of them and broke parts and repaired them. The 72 lasted 300,000 miles! Great handling, 30 mpg w some headers we put on. I would of loved to have kept them but rust ate them and parts were harder to get as they aged. Light weight as well, two of us could pick up the back and get it out being stuck most the times. If they could made a car like it again I’d grab it ! Thanks for the blast past !