(please welcome our new Saturday COAL Series writer) I have been a “car guy” essentially since I was born. Growing up in the tire capital of the world (Akron, Ohio) at a time in the ‘70s when the big manufacturers still made tires in the city, some car culture was bound to rub off. In my case, though, it seems to be innate rather than learned. When I was very small neighborhood walks were a chore as I made my parents stop and look at and into every car parked on the street. There are many photos of me as a child playing with cars, looking at cars, pretending to drive cars, and getting cars of all shapes for Christmas. My love of cars was a bit more intense than my parents – my dad was interested in cars and his brother is a real car guy, but mom didn’t care very much at all. No problem – I had enough car enthusiasm to cover the whole family.
As you might expect given this background, I spent a lot of time thinking about what my first car could be. Something new, something old, something sporty, maybe a big American boat – the possibilities were endless and I made a lot of plans and schemes to get that perfect car. Dad raised my hopes quite a bit when I was 13 as he talked my mom into letting him buy a ’72 Olds Cutlass Supreme convertible. He said it would be “Mike’s car” when I was old enough to drive. The car wasn’t exactly a creampuff – it was a dull dark gold/brown color with a brown interior, rusted Cragar S/S wheels with old Goodyear white lettered tires, and an add-on FM converter with speakers sitting on the back seat.
I made plenty of plans about this car and even tried to get my dad to let me use my allowance to put some new tires on the Olds rally wheels that had come with the car. However, it became apparent that the car wasn’t exactly the safest or most reliable in the world, what with 4-wheel drum brakes and a column shift that put the automatic transmission in the correct gear some of the time. As a result, the Cutlass disappeared a year before I got my license, so we were back to square one.
Roughly five months before I reached sixteen, my grandmother on my mother’s side passed away at the relatively young age of 65. My mother’s father had already passed in the late ‘70s when he was in his mid-fifties, and Grandma’s estate included her car. My dad asked me if I would be interested in Grandma’s old car – at this point I was interested in anything that had four wheels that could take me around the suburbs where we lived. However, this particular car was not exactly on my list of “dream cars.”
In 1975 my mom’s parents went to Pride Chevrolet (a dealer in Akron long since closed) and bought themselves a shiny new Colonnade-era Monte Carlo. In ’75, Monte Carlo buyers could indulge their sporty car desires with big block 454 power (albeit with just 215 net horsepower), swiveling bucket seats, Rally wheels, and full instrumentation with tachometer, voltmeter, and temperature gauge. However, my grandparents didn’t have any sporty car desires so they came home with the base model Monte Carlo Coupe very similar to the blue one shown on the back cover of the brochure.
My grandparents picked a medium green color with the base black cloth and vinyl interior. They surveyed the options list and only picked the Turbo Hydramatic automatic, an AM radio (one speaker), tilt steering wheel, white sidewall tires, and air conditioning. The base emissions-strangled 145 horsepower two-barrel 350 V-8 was plenty for them (no big block power or dual exhausts here), and the base wheel covers worked just fine (no need for those upmarket fancy wheels). My grandfather passed not long after they purchased the car and my grandparents only put about 30,000 miles on the car during the 10 years they had it.
The car met my parents’ strict requirements for a car for me – it was essentially free, it was not particularly powerful or fast, and did I mention it was free? As a result of this extensive analysis of the pros and cons of Monte Carlo ownership, the car came home with us. Although it had relatively low miles, ten Ohio winters and infrequent use hadn’t exactly been kind to it. The lower fenders, rocker panel, and door on the passenger side had extensive rust that had begun to bow out the stainless rocker molding and rotted away the mounting areas for the wheel opening moldings.
My father and I hypothesized that my grandmother, not being the greatest or most confident driver in the city of Akron, stayed in the curb lane on her occasional trips to the mall and back and thus continually plowed the right side of the car in accumulated slush and snow. A bigger problem was the car’s propensity to stall at the most inopportune times when it was cold and the throttle was opened quickly (as one might do when pulling out into traffic, for example). Numerous trips to a local mechanic uncovered nothing out of the ordinary, so eventually I accepted the fact that first-year catalytic converter cars like this one weren’t very good for cold-start driveability and just learned to take convoluted routes to avoid major roads until the car warmed up. I also found that the car seemed to run a bit better on gasoline from certain gas stations – unfortunately it didn’t like the gas from the stations my parents preferred, the source of a number of arguments at home.
I did try to learn to drive in this car but its enormous size and block-long hood made it rather difficult. I spent most of my time learning on my mom’s Fox-body ’83 Ford LTD (four doors, two-tone blue paint, JCPenney cassette stereo, and anemic 3.3 liter straight six). Not long after I started to drive my parents decided to purchase a new car and offered me the choice of the Monte Carlo or the LTD (they would trade in the one I didn’t keep). Being a practical 16-year old I chose the 11-year old V-8 car with the rusty rockers over the 3-year old Ford (perhaps not one of my best life choices). On the plus side, I talked my parents out of the Buick Park Avenue 4-door and into a Lincoln Mark VII LSC with the Mustang V-8…my car guy credibility finally paid off.
My dad offered to have the Monte repainted at a local body shop since I decided to keep it. He let me pick the color and new wheels, so of course I picked a bright red Buick color (Red Firemist, the very color of the Park Avenue that I talked my parents out of) and Corvette Rally wheels with white sidewall tires. After many months of waiting, partly due to the rust repair that required rebuilding the entire passenger door, the car finally came home. The obligatory mudflaps (it was Ohio, after all) and a two-speaker JCPenney cassette stereo (with speakers in the back) finished things off. Keeping with a long-standing tradition in my family that I carry on today, the car’s arrival after painting included a photo session for posterity. (Since it was a film camera there aren’t many photos, though – developing pictures was expensive.)
That car taught me many things during the time I had it. I learned how easy it was to break back into the car when I locked my keys in it – two high school buddies were able to use a coat hanger to pop the lock during study hall. I learned that even expensive paint and body work on old cars would eventually rust (the rear wheel openings began to bubble not long after it was painted, and other bubbles showed up at the trailing edge of the hood). On the good side, I learned that having my own car represented exactly the kind of freedom and fun I’d always expected to get from my first car.
The car carried me through the rest of high school and gave me some much-needed credibility as I was part of the “nerd crowd.” My parents even let me drive it daily to school during my senior year instead of taking the school bus (whew!) The Monte also took me to college as a commuter to the University of Akron for my first year: maneuvering that barge around the tight parking lots on campus was not exactly fun, and the cold-start stalling behavior was particularly dangerous in downtown Akron.
After my first year my dad offered me the opportunity to get another car (which I will talk about in my next COAL) and he took the car himself. He drove it for a couple of years before giving it back to me when I went off to Sandusky for an engineering co-op job. At that point the car was getting a bit tired, and on a trip back to Akron the car began running a bit rough. The problem turned out to be a burned valve that resulted in the car only running on seven cylinders, which explained why throttle response on the Ohio Turnpike was a bit soft. My parents decided to sell the car then: I was tired of the car by then but was still a bit sorry to see my first car go. On the other hand, there were so many other cars to try!
Well written…good read. You brought me into your world with the Monte, and made me think of my first car experiences too. I do remember the cold start stalling ” fun” when trying to go pick up my first girlfriend and having to drive around with a fussy running motor. LOL!
Learning about cars was a worthwhile endeavour that kept most young teenage boys out of a lot of trouble. It was necessary for most of us if we were gonna be piloting our own huge GM cars by 16 years, and upping our “cool” factor ten fold in the process…who knew?
I told (threatened) my parents ( who never owned a car- yea we walked evvvverywhere!) that I was gonna run away, and buy my own somehow, some way the day I turned 16! If they didn’t cough up enough cash and buy one.-I can’t imagine how I had the guts to bring this statement to life and live to tell. We had many intense “family discussions” over my jackass desire to bring them into the car driving world.
It worked! Surprise surprise! Oh happy day! Just shortly befor I turned 16, on the cusp of figuring out how I was gonna run away and go buy a car…imagine… Mom went to the Chevy dealer and bought a brand new bone white1980 Chevette! I was so blown away! To this day I have always endeared my mom for making my dream come true. Her and I spent countless hours driving around…me with my beginners, her with a brand new license. The two of us were inseparable for a very long time cruising about in that little car.
She made our family step into the automotive world.
Thanks MDLAUGHLIN, for bringing my first car memory back to me with your first car story. Excellent, and I look forward to your other write ups.
Thanks! Interesting you mention your parents never owned a car. The grandparents who owned this Monte first (my mom’s parents) lived in the city of Akron all their lives, and they were in their mid-to-late forties before they learned to drive in the late ’50s. Took the bus or walked everywhere – it’s just what a lot of people did.
Glad that we can find some common ground with memories of our first car – that first set of wheels makes all the difference for being independent and doing your own thing.
I enjoyed reading your story of your first car. Shame the rust worm eventually got to it. A ’75 Monte Carlo is a nice-looking car. (I was thinking . . . I’ve never known anyone to say: “Yeah, for my 1st car I want something really ugly! How ’bout it, Dad? Mom?).
I grew very fond of my 1st car as time passed. I decided to keep it until it falls apart. Nearly 28 years later it’s still perched in a carport ready to go. I used to hear stories when I was (much) younger from all kinds of folks about their first car and how they wish they still had it -or- at least had kept it longer.
Great story, and I understand all about Monte Carlo affection. My original has been with me for 29 years, and the twin around for 15. Both are fairly basic 350/2 barrel, which were converted to 4 barrel upon acquisition. I never experienced any of the drivability issues mentioned, with the original up to 265K miles and still running well.
Dean, the one you brought to Dearborn (on the left) is a beauty. I stopped to photograph it before I learned it was yours!
Welcome MDLAUGHLIN,
It seems we all remember our first love … car that is. Not matter how rusty, or leaky, or lethargic, or stall prone, the memory of that first auto love stays with many of us more or less forever. At the age of 73, the most consistent part of my [non-nightmare] dreams are of my late high school / early college years and that old yellow rusty, leaky, and very slow first car.
Or, more recently, I dream that I discover a heretofore unknown door in my condo garage and behind it, that badly neglected first car, with flat tires, dead battery, and stale gas, and dried out seals. “Oh, I should not have neglected it for the past 58 years; this is going to be a lot of work!”
Then I wake up.
Nicely written story; looking forward to chapter two.
You’d want to fix it so the top could be raised and lowered again.
Hello Staxman,
That would be nice. I could lift that ’53 Chrysler’s top when young; not sure if I could do it now.
But the ’99 Miata? One hand, sitting in the driver’s seat. Piece of cake (as they say).
No, no :
It’s ‘piece of pie, easy as cake’ =8-) .
-Nate
Love the older cars. Have a 74 plymouth fury 3, 2 door. Given to me by my grandparents. Nice cars in the 70s. Im from ohio too. So is the car
Great COAL! I loved reading about when you were a kid and wanted to stop and look at every car–I did the exact same thing. So many of us here were just “born” car nuts (I know I was), it really is innate.
I totally see why you picked the Monte Carlo over the LTD, even though the Ford was much newer. The Monte, even in base form, had swagger and the LTD did not. I also like the upgrades you gave the car: the Chevrolet Rally Wheels looked great on the Montes, and the Buick red was a perfect color choice to show off the lines.
Looking forward to the next installment!
It definitely had swagger, that’s for sure. I guess for a 16-year-old who mostly ran with the nerd crowd, I might hypothetically have been compensating for something with a bright red personal luxury coupe instead of the practical LTD. Everything happens for a reason, right?
Great piece! Really enjoyed this one. ’75 was a good year for these Montes, and I liked the “after” pictures (good choices on the paint color, wheels, and whitewalls). Coming from a car-industry town myself, I can identify with your innate car-ness. Looking forward to your next installment.
You are a wonderful raconteur. Thanks for sharing your story, Mike. I look forward to reading of more of your automobile adventures as I am sure our fellow readers would agree.
Thanks very much – this is why I love Curbside Classic. Where else will you find someone using the word “raconteur” in a blog post reply? Love it!
An enjoyable read, looking forward to more.
Ah yes, a mid 70s car with a stalling problem. It wasn’t a “first year catalytic converter” problem, just a mid 70s “how are we going to meet these emission regs with a carb” problem. It seems that you either got a car that ran decently or you didn’t. Mom’s 74 LeMans was awful until fully warmed up.
And the rust, teaching hard lessons to young car nuts in the north since forever.
No doubt – and it wasn’t like I didn’t take care of the car to prevent the rust. We did the whole undercoating treatment (remember when that was a thing for those in the north?) and I washed it every week (since I didn’t have much of a social life in high school). Once rust starts, it’s almost impossible to stop, especially for a daily driver.
Definitely true on the emissions regs versus carbs comment – things really didn’t get “right” until fuel injection and electronic engine controls came into the picture. The car’s two-barrel carb was laughably small – you could strangle the engine by covering both barrels with one hand.
Welcome to the COAL mine! Which part of Akron is that? Kind of looks like Fairlawn from the pix.
As bad as the Colonnade era Montes were, the downsized 1978 models were worse. My dad had a first year 1978, and the panel fit was terrible, the frameless windows sealed poorly.
Thanks for the welcome! The pictures of the Monte are in front of the house I grew up in, which is in Uniontown (OH) – in between Akron and Canton. The picture of me “washing” Dad’s 72 Cutlass was at our house in Goodyear Heights. Ironically, there is a Fairlawn connection to that photo – the car is missing its wire wheel covers as they were stolen at Summit Mall in Fairlawn. Weird how these things work out…
Welcome to CC from another (now former) Northeast Ohioan. I’m from outside of the Youngstown area.
Your photos of your 75 MC reminded me of all of the folks I knew that had one of these cars back then, they were as thick as thieves. In a way, I’m surprised I didn’t have one, but I had more Fords and Mopars back in the day.
My wife’s stepmother’s second husband (I am not kidding here) had a silver one similar to the white one in factory pic you featured. It was his “work car” that he drove to and from the steel mill and it had all of the wonderful issues your car did: the anemic 350 which stalled frequently and was a pig on fuel and more rust than sheet metal. It was a glorious POS long before he junked it at eight years old.
Glad to see Northeast Ohio represented here, makes me nostalgic for home.
Great post! To my mind nothing is more representative of the disco era than these Monte Carlos.
’70s boats in general still seem to be very good collector car buys if you can find a good example. If you were watching the Mecum Harrisburg auction this past Thursday night you probably noticed this very nice appearing ’73 Monte in a quite nice “triple green” color going across the block for a mere $8K. Well bought I’d say.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/PA0817-303086/1973-chevrolet-monte-carlo/
You have a real talent in your writing to make the reader feel that they are right beside you. I’m really looking forward to more!
Agreed ;
Well written and the car looks nice in red with the white walls .
Disdabling the EGR valve and properly setting the ignition timing woke these sluggish barges right up ~ it was very common for us to get in Customers right after or right before the annual smog test for one of t’other of these tune up/downs .
-Nate
Ah – wish I’d found you as a mechanic back then! At the time, I couldn’t get my arms around the idea that the poor performance was just “how they were” and not something actually broken. I drove a local mechanic nuts trying to find the source of the stalling problem – but with no actual problem to find, he just had to keep giving the car back without any repairs.
Yeah well;
The 1970’s were what really made me learn the tuning thing as new cars (even my beloved VW Beetle) really ran like crap .
I fought endless battles with my Business partner who’d smoke up $3,000.00 worth of freebase cocaine in 24 hours but couldn’t see the way to us buying a $50 Craftsman inductive, dynamic timing light with an advance dial so I had to pay for it out of my own pocket, I still have it although I had to replace the leads a few years ago .
I still get requests to bring it to various old car Tech Days along with Dwell/Tachometer, wire typ spark plug gauges and other basic tune up tools that even then very few fully understood how to use .
Those damn EGR valves were the primary cause of off idle flat spots and stalling ~ there was a Chevrolet Dealer in N.E. Los Angeles (North Fig. & Av. 51 for any locals here) that got a surprise inspection from the A.Q.M.D. who discovered that _ALL_ the brandy new cars in the pre release lot, had the EGR valves ‘dimpled’ = whacked in the tin cover with the round end of a ballpeen hammer, preventing the valve from opening .
Oops ~ $10,000.00 fine PER CAR back then and if they didn’t like you they could not only yank your license, they could prevent you from _ever_ working in the Auto Trade again ~ scary though for those like me who can’t do anything else .
What pissed and still pisses me off is : people who know but refuse to share their knowledge .
Knowledge is useless unless shared .
I love waking up old poor running engines .
-Nate
OBTW :
I too have anti – Govt. rants, here’s one : those 1970’s vehicles all ran so badly because instead of the Govt. saying “here’s the emissions you must achieve” they said “you must install these devices” and didn’t allow the engine makers to peak and tweak them .
This is why you have modern engines with the SAME emission control devices that all run *much* better and emit less pollutants : the Manufacturers were finally allowed to design and calibrate them .
EGR at or just off idle, is going to make any engine run like crap .
Same deal with blindly retarding the ignition timing ~ most of those old cars I tuned whistled through the smog tests and had more power, didn’t run blistering hot and so on, so forth .
I’m no Engineer but I pay close attention to those who are =8-) .
-Nate
Unfortunately, as with so many other anti-government rants, your facts are fake. The government never said “you must install these devices”. Never, ever. The EPA and CARB emission regulations from day one set levels for the thee main smog-forming emissions: HC, CO, and NOx. It was always up to the manufacturers to meet the levels, in whatever way they chose. And different manufacturers used decidedly different technologies to do so, like Honda’s CVCC.
EGR was never mandated, but it was the easy and obvious solution to reduce NOx. But the early EGR systems were very crude. EGR technology improved over time, and almost all gas and diesel engines still use EGR.
The poor running characteristics was primarily the result of Detroit sticking with carbs; some manufacturers’ engines had decidedly better driveability due to using fuel injection.
The reason modern engines run better is simply because technology has come a huge way since 1970 or so.
The government only ever set emission limits, which of course got lower as the years went on. The manufacturers always had 100% freedom in how to meet them.
The only emissions control devices that were gov’t mandated were the charcoal canister to store vapors. However there was no mandate on how it is purged. For example some use a solenoid while others have a simple fixed orifice.
But for what comes out the tail pipe there have only been limits on the specific pollutants and the auto makers were free to achieve it however they felt.
In regards to the EGR valve I know there were certain years where the Ford 2.9 had an EGR valve with a 5sp and didn’t with the automatic.
O.K. Paul ;
That’s what my GM Factory and my Ca. State smog mechanic licensing training said, I guess it wasn’t the first time I was lied to .
The EGR valve running issues were fairly easily corrected by not allowing the valve to open below certain RPM and never on a cold engine, not sure why almost every manufacturer decided to have this easily overcome problem at the same time ? .
-Nate
I’m guessing it was how you interpreted the language/writing. Yes, the devices were “government mandated”, but not the specific choice/design of the devices. Which is why there were variations in the devices and their use.
Here in California every 1975 or older vehicle MUST have all original style emissions related equipment installed and functioning with original factory ignition timing regardless of actual measured at the tailpipe numbers. I think this is what Nate is referring to.
and yes its a flipping stupid rule
Thanx Snucks ;
Indeed as I / we /us spent hours and days looking through the standards booklets looking for loopholes or anything we could use to make those damn engines run right and they were explicit (sorry Paul) about stiff fines and loss of license etc. if we changed/adjusted _anything_ to non by the book specs in spite of the fact that doing so easily made them run cleaner .
They also continually changed the goal posts by reducing the allowed emissions while lying and claiming they hadn’t.
In the end I dropped my plans to become the LAX Vehicle Shops primary smog technician (no one else even tried) .
-Nate
Snucks: read Nate’s comment again. He’s specifically talking about the 70s cars running poorly because the manufacturers had to use government-mandated devices. I understand the issue that your talking about, but Nate’s comment clearly was not directed at that.
And the reason CA does that is pretty simple: the tailpipe tests are not anywhere near as comprehensive as the original EPA tests, which covered a wide variety of conditions/temperatures, etc. And the devices had to be warranted to function for an extended period of time.
Now I can see how transplanting a more modern engine with its complete engine control electronics should be allowed, but just dicking with the original engine to meet the limited tailpipe tests would open up the situation for all kinds of monkey business.
That’s me explaining their POV; frankly, given how few old cars are on the street, and how few miles they are driven, I do think there should be room for some accommodation.
True this Paul ;
It was 1960’s & 1970’s vehicles mostly at that time .
We did have to ensure the vapor cannisters and all attendant hoses / etc/ still was intact and working .
The EGV valves were designed to lower N02 emissions but thankfully the machines didn’t test for that at that time .
In the 1970’s we had the Hamilton Test Centers run by the State and they were a mess ~ I was running my VW Shop then and the CO was allowed something wild like 3 + % and over 700PPM on the HC so if any old VW failed to pass that you had a _serious_ problem .
If you tuned them to factory ignition timing they’d fail more often than not .
As every Mechanic does, I knew Hot Rodders and they taught me quite a bit about how to sneak in adjustments so the 1972 Impala V-ate would run pretty well and pass the test easily unless it had some way too big carby or some sporting camshaft installed by the DIY’er .
Most Hot Rodders either had buddies who’d let them slide on the test or would work hard for a day or three, pass smog test then change it all back again ~ _way_ too much hassle for me .
I discovered that mod 1960’s 3/4 & 1 ton truck cams woke up almost any engine they were installed in , again with careful timing and lying through our teeth to the smog test guy .
Agreed : no reason whatsoever not to allow modern engines in older vehicles as they’ll always run better and cleaner but, it you tell the tester your 1982 thing has a spiffy 2001 fuel injected engine, you have to retrofit _all_ the crap _and_ it’ll need inspection by the State and have a foerver document that goes with it stating it’s compliance and will need to be tested at the engine’s build date forevermore, not the chassis build date .
Similar to the rigamarole grey market engines have to go through ~ it’s maddening .
My buddy put a modern engine in his old dead 1980’s Jeep thing and for lack of a factory air cleaner and rubber boot that’d finish the job, they refused to pass it even though it passed every test on the dyno….
-Nate
@Nate, I’ve never seen a pre-computer controlled EGR equipped vehicle that didn’t have a thermo vacuum switch to prevent EGR from opening below a particular temp. Whether the worked properly in the long run is another story. They also were run off of either a ported or venturi vacuum source so that it took more than just cracking the throttle to make them open. However there were a few that used a vacuum amplifier which was troublesome and could cause the valve to open prematurely.
And those EGR valves were carefully calibrated to the specific vehicle, not just the specific engine or application. That is why there are dozens of part numbers of those 2 extremely common Rochester Products valves and why the aftermarket consolidated them into single part numbers, included a booklet to look up the OE part number to detrimine which orfice to fit, and the 2 part sticker for you to write the OE number on and lock it in with the clear sticker.
At Snucks, don’t you mean every 1975 and newer vehicle? However it is false that they have to have all of the OE equipment and set to OE specs, That only applies to vehicles with the original power train. However there is no law that says you can’t change the power train, just that if you do you need to use an engine from the same or more stringent standard and then use all of the emissions control devices from that application with a few exceptions.
As Paul stated those tail pipe tests, particularly the earliest versions don’t come close to the entire range of operation and most of those early machines were unable to measure NOx the thing that the EGR valve controlled. Late timing was there to help the Cat light off earlier as well as lower peak in cyl temps to aid in the lowering of NOx. However on the flip side the fact that the EGR slows the combustion means that you can actually run more timing than w/o EGR and it actually improves efficiency. 70’s Fords often pinged under a moderate load when the EGR was disconnected, plugged or not otherwise flowing properly.
@Nate, I know a lot of IH people who live in CA and have 75 or newer vehicles who run the good old Holley 2300 universal or Motorcraft 2100 on a day to day basis and then pull out the correct Holley, its air cleaner, plug the EGR set the timing to TDC and get it through the test. Then next week they swap the “good stuff” back on. Or those that had the Thermoquad that run a Edelbrock most of the time. I do know a few people who went through fits trying to get their 1980 to meet spec as those had a lot of one year only components.
Just so Scoutdude ~
Unless you’re a dedicated DIY’ing Gearhead mot just found it too troublesome and simply scrapped these cars the first time they failed smog tests .
I well remember the local junk yards jammed full of them .
Part of the reason I buy many of my vehicles out of junk yards is : they tend to have far less DPO & DPM bodge fixes and overall damage under the hood .
Tuning older carburated IC engine is an art, one I’m fairly familiar with but the art in general seems lost to – day .
-Nate
During my apprentice ship, our EGR cure was a ball from a bearing in the vacuum line to the EGR valve. Easy to fit and remove. And a few extra degrees of timing as noted helped too. Great article too.
@Scoutdude ~
Don’t forget GM and some others used a very simple system of a vacuum valve that didn’t open @ idle to purge the cannister ~ a very simple system that occasionally failed spectacularly when the purge valve stuck open causing the worst ‘flooding’ you ever experienced .
-Nate
An enjoyable read. I question whether the car was worth doing the bodywork on, but your car, your right to put money into it!
Yes, in hindsight it probably wasn’t worth the money. If memory serves, we paid just shy of $2000 in 1986 money for the paint and bodywork for a car that was probably worth just about that much when it was finished.
My grandfather’s first new car was a 1975 Monte Carlo. It was pretty much the family car for a number of years and my dad took it to prom. My dad said that my grandpa never had power windows in his, when asked why, grandpa replied “just one more thing to break”
I don’t like power windows, either. If I had a choice of buying the same car w/ power windows or without I’d always select the non-pwr window vehicle. I still have arm strength left at 44 to roll down my own window. 😀
Nicely written COAL about your ’75 Monte Carlo. I too can relate to your Auto obsessions.
My first roommate in Chicago back n 1985 or ’86 also acquired an eleven y/o ’75 Monte Carlo that was a light yellow for the hard to forget sum of $250. (I think the seller sold so cheap as favor to a friend).
My roommate’s Monte Carlo had less than 100,000 miles and the most rust I’ve ever seen on a GM Colonnade with the possible exception of my brother’s thirteen y/o ’73 Pontiac Gran Prix. The Monte Carlo’s rust was everywhere creating an interesting patina, however it was pretty horrendous around the wheel wells. I seem to recall this Monte having bench seats, those swivel buckets are hard to forget – I use to carpool to work with a women who had a Monte Carlo with white vinyl ones.
I also understand your picking an older Personal Luxury coupe over a three y/o practical 4 door Ford – when I was 16 my first car back in 1979 was an eleven y/o 1968 Oldsmobile Toronado!
Love that Monte! When I was looking for my first car at 15 1/2 years old, I went and looked at one of these for sale. Great car. Great COAL.
Welcome! A great first post, wonderfully written and about a car I have affection for. I can understand why you’d pick it over the LTD, and how you loved it, but I can also understand why it was time to let it go. There is a world full of cars out there, after all. It looks like you and the Monte had a pretty good run anyway. Props for the upgrade you gave it… Nice colour and wheels.
Looking forward to your next piece!
Thanks for everyone’s great comments and welcoming attitude so far. I am glad that my early car experiences have resonated with everyone – looking forward to writing many more over the next months. (And I just added a COAL to my fleet yesterday – I have to write faster!)
Great read, very enjoyable, one’s first car might be the one that you remember the best, no matter how long ago it was.
Probably because I grew up in a small town with minimal public transportation but the concept of someone not driving just seems strange to me, unless that person lives in a major metropolitan area. My grandparents (father’s side) were both born around 1903 and they, apparently, began driving in the mid-twenties. Not that they ever had any cars I would have wanted; the only car I can remember them owning was the 1952 Dodge they bought new. It was sold after my grandfather died and my grandmother went to live with my aunt and uncle. After a few years my grandmother returned to Kentucky and started driving again; she owned several well used vehicles until she got too old to safely drive but, again, nothing that the teenaged me would want. I have to say though that her 1959 Pontiac did have some good points, the combination of that 389 V8 and four speed Hydramatic could generate some smoky burnouts.
Great COAL. As an Akron alumnus myself, I can’t imagine putting a Monte Carlo of that vintage into the commuter garages- did it for a while in a Panther then bought a Stratus.
“It was certainly…distinctive. Perhaps I should have picked the blackwalls instead.” A car like this needs whitewalls on big gaudy rims and an actual 1970’s pimp/drug dealer riding shotgun all the time. In for a penny, in for a pound.
Great looking car in a great color. In my opinion, the wheels and whitewalls really make the red pop.
Great read! I loved those Montes and still do! I think you did the right thing keeping the Monte over the LTD, for sure.
I think we are all fairly spoiled as many do not appreciate how great our cars have become. The rusting and stalling issues were prevalent back then, and you took your life in your hands with many of those big old rear wheel drivers in bad weather. And starting them? Fuel injection has changed what used to be a science, sometimes to each individual car – pump the pedal, maybe twice, don’t pump the pedal, etc. etc. etc!