This starts my “beater” COAL series. About the time we had the 1998 Jimmy, I started with a long line of somehow distressed used cars that attracted my interest in various ways. So, the wife and kids mostly had the “good” cars you have read about up until now, while I had some that were “challenged” shall we say. Yet, they were good enough to be relied upon as daily drivers. I would avoid good looking cars that had a major mechanical failure or malady, since that was beyond my skills. Those were (and are) plentiful. I latched onto generally well-running cars that were cosmetically distressed, which is a little harder to find in my experience. In this entire series, I don’t recall ever being stranded once, which is pretty remarkable. I would have days of no heat, no AC, no stereo, hard starting, and that type thing, but never a failure to get from Point A to Point B.
This was the first in that lineup: a 1978 Mercedes Benz 450SEL. In my travels for work, I drove by a foreign car garage a couple of times a week. One of those places whose name usually ends in “Haus” or “Werke”, such as “German Haus” or “Euro Werke”, you get the picture. Anyway, they were usually full of cars, which never seemed to move, or to leave. In fact, the daily customers were relegated to parking on the street.
They usually had a lot of interesting things around. They were heavy on Volvos and Saabs, as I recall. The 450SEL always caught my eye though. It was always easy to catch a glimpse of it, as it never moved for about a year. From a distance, it looked okay, but it clearly was no show quality car.
One day, it was gone. Geez, how disappointing, I thought. Did they sell it? Crush it? Maybe the owner had finally come to collect it after all. The next time I passed by though, it was back. On the front row this time, with a for sale sign in the windshield.
I swooped in for a closer look. It looked OK overall to be about 20 years old at the time. The silver paint was weathered but might clean up well. The inside didn’t look bad, it actually looked pretty decent. It had navy cloth seats which seemed odd, I had never seen cloth seats in a Mercedes. It also did not have the Chrysler based automatic climate controls I had expected, it had round European controls like my mom’s 1979 240D. Finally, the speedometer was in kilometers, not miles.
I stepped into the office to inquire how much. “$750.00 cash”. Geez, really? That’s like $1,100.00 today. So, think of finding of a serviceable 1997 S Class today for $1,100.00! The garage was selling it for a storage lien. In our state, a car can be sold for a mechanic’s lien or storage lien after posting notice at the courthouse, notifying the owner and DMV, and waiting the requisite number of days.
The story was that the owner brought the car in for not starting. They got it to start, but the owner (a local college student) disappeared. When the garage went to notify DMV, DMV in our state could not find any evidence of the VIN ever being registered in any of the 50 states. The DMV investigator had even come in person to see if the VIN was fake or changed. Nope, it was a genuine factory VIN, but no USA registration history, ever.
Apparently, it was a grey market import of some sort. It did have the US sealed beam headlights and US bumpers added along the way, but everything else about it indicated it was at the very least a Canadian vehicle, and maybe European. Why anyone would do this, I am not sure, since the 450SEL was sold in the US at the time. Perhaps it had more power by virtue of not having US emission controls, but we’ll never know.
So, the car was mine for $750.00 if I wanted it, but the mechanic said “It runs rough, and I don’t know if you can get a title ever, at all. And I’m not working on it any more either, so don’t ask. I want it gone.” Who cares, I thought, it was a great project and toy for $750.00. I knew that I couldn’t tag or insure it without a title, though, so I went to the local DMV office a few days later to ask what could be done. Well, it turned out I could get a title in my name for a $200.00 cash bond. If no one surfaced in 12 months claiming to own it, I get the cash back.
So, I bought it, and posted the bond to get the title and tag issued in my name. It did run, but very rough, with poor acceleration. I knew just the person though to tackle that. My father in law had grown up in the 1950’s, and had told me tales of his hot rodding friends from high school. One, in particular, had retired from his factory job and tinkered with cars in his basement garage. I knew from driving past his house that this old friend liked old BMW’s and usually had a number gathered there, running or not, and some for just parts.
I went to talk to him about the 450SEL. “Son, I just don’t know nothin’ about a Mercedes. I really can’t help you”. I pleaded with him to just at least look at it. “It can’t be that different from these older gas, fuel injected BMW’s”. He reluctantly agreed to look at it. I chugged and sputtered over there and left it, telling him that if he couldn’t fix it, it was OK, I just appreciated him trying.
A few days later, the old timer called me back. “Come get your car, it runs like a top. You owe me fifty bucks”. This sounded too good to be true. Indeed, it did “run like a top”. It now started, idled, and accelerated as you would expect a Mercedes V8 to. The solution was simple; he found that the adjustments and settings were indeed pretty much identical to the fuel injected BMW’s. And, every such setting was as far out of adjustment as possible. Either someone completely incompetent had worked on it, or, it had been purposely misadjusted to make it run rough or poorly. Maybe they were trying to make it not run at all, so the college student couldn’t make off with it at night. Who knows, but once properly adjusted it was running great.
So I was then able to start cleaning it up. I shampooed the seats and carpet of course, and buffed out the paint. That helped a lot. It was never going to look new, but a little elbow grease went a long way. I painted the “bundt cake” alloys with silver spray paint. A lot of owners about this time were throwing out the 14 inch “bundt” wheels for the newer, flat faced, 15 inch Mercedes alloys. I always liked the bundts myself, and thought the flat faced wheels didn’t look right on these older models.
There was no radio present at all, so I turned to Crutchfield and installed a low-key Blaupunkt that looked right in the car. A window regulator or two was bad, so I replaced those and restored operation to all the power windows. Otherwise, I really don’t recall doing much mechanical work to it. My mechanical skills are limited, but I didn’t have to do brakes, filters, fluids, or anything else.
I drove the 450SEL for about 18 months. I figured I needed to wait at least 12 months to be able to have a “good” title. As with most of these beater cars, the tipping point for selling it on was when something else caught my eye. I can’t swear to my figures, but I made pretty good money on this one. I think I sold it for $3,500.00 or so, which was pretty good profit considering I also made regular use of it as well.
My wife swears all these beater cars were money pits, and I remember making money on most of them. So the truth is probably in between, more or less a wash over the years, all things considered. But a “wash” on the purchase and repairs would mean the miles were free, which isn’t bad. And there was a lot of entertainment value for me. I enjoyed the cleaning and minor mechanical tweaking that could add quick value to a car.
What was your first “project” car? One you could actually drive, mind you!
This generation of MB was pretty well built. The upholstery was very durable compared to modern cars. The mechanical were pretty solid. The only problem is they tended to rust. The trunks would sometimes fill with water. This car may have been originally purchased by somebody in the military. It was common back in the 70-80s to purchase a car in Germany and bring it back due to favorable exchange rates and less of a premium car mark up from dealers as Mercedes was/is pretty common in Germany. Farmers would use them to drive to their fields. They even use them as Taxis.
“… They even use them as Taxis.”
Indeed. When I was working in Holland in the early 1970s, most of the taxis in Amsterdam were Mercedes 240 diesels. With the very narrow streets semi-circling the train station center of the city and the frequent steep bridges up and over the canals, there was no need for speed or size, just torque and longevity.
After I returned the the USA, the sound of a 240D brought back memories of my time in the Netherlands.
in my experience (’83 240D) the water in the trunk was usually due to the drains being clogged. after i learned to clear them out with a stick, i never saw water in the trunk again.
At last a happy story where nobody, or their wallet, was injured. Thank you!
In regard to the trunks filling with water remark above, this can happen after even a light shunt which deforms the sheetmetal but is enough to break the watertight seal around what are quite large tail lamp apertures. Forward motion just draws water in.
A “beater” (and well running and clean) 1978 Mercedes Benz 450SEL, Huh?
Okkaaay.
I need to rethink my idea of a beater as a rusted out Datsun B210 with mismatching tires, wheels, no hubcaps, slipping clutch, and a barely functioning muffler.
CC’s version of Terminator Two’s Enrique’s reaction when meeting Uncle Bob.
I definitely look forward to read about your beaters here. And what a start to a beater career this car was!
My first “beater” was a ’98 Mazda Protégé, 5 speed. In 2006 I bought it off the back row at the local Chevy dealer with the fresh driver’s license of my 1st son in mind. I wanted to dust off my and update my auto repair skills that were dormant since 1986. I leaned about OBDII codes, fixed the brakes, took it for auto crossing, replaced the front struts, and the sway bar links. Both my boys learned stick shift with it and it was sold after 6 years with an oil leak that dripped on the exhaust. The smoke of course went into the cabin….The overall cost was ok because I only paid for parts, no labor at all. And yes, I learned about OBDII and I am fan of it.
My only project car I ever had was a 1965 Mustang coupe. It was 6 cylinder 3 speed manual & it had front end damage. I bought it from a buddy of mine for $50. He had plans of fixing it & had picked up the necessary parts to fix it, When I brought it home, my Dad had a fit. He couldn’t believe that I paid that much for it (this was 1971 when $50 was a lot of money). I knew it ran but I had to charge to battery. That done, I started it up & it ran good except it started overheating. A trip to the parts store for a thermostat & gasket (cost as I remember was 3 or 4 dollars) solved that problem. One day I had it sitting outside & a guy pulled up & asked me if I wanted to sell it. I asked him what he’d give me for it. He said $100. I figured almost doubling my money in just a month was a pretty good deal, so I sold it. When my Dad noticed that it was missing, he asked me where it was. When I told him I sold it sold it $100, he never said another word about “spending all that money on a pile of junk”.
You came out well on the title issue. And on everything else, come to think of it.
My first project/driver was a 63 Cadillac Fleetwood that I bought in 1978 for $400. It had sat in a garage for over a year. I was 19 and in college away from home. The lack of time, knowledge and money proved insurmountable and I gave up after 6 months. But between the serial $100 repairs (which were not minor to a college kid 40 years ago) it was a very nice car.
Good for you. I bought a 1980 Caprice with 100,000 miles around 1990 for $1000. Fair appearance but ran OK. (I was desperate.) Cleaned it up and it looked much better. Drove it for 50,000 miles and sold it for $1000. Had to rebuild the transmission but did not face any other serious mechanical problems. Probably should have kept it but my finances were in better shape and I wanted something better.
wow, you’re beater was my dream car. i’ve wanted one of these since i went for a ride in high school with someone who hooned the hell out of their father’s brand new late 70’s 450sel.
I don’t think it’s fair to call a beater a money pit when new cars shed relatively more money due to depreciation. I’ve bought new vehicles for business but never for personal transport. I did so once and it was disastrous. Now all my cars are used, most of which are projects. It makes little sense for my to buy new and take a huge hit on depreciation that I cannot write off against tax.
I like working on older cars. It’s satisfying to buy an interesting older car for pennies and make something useful from it.
I had a Mercedes that probably looked almost identical to yours, only it was a 1980 300D — which was a very different car mechanically, of course.
It had the Euro bumpers and had been owned by “Trotting Track” in Lexington, Ky. I bought it when I lived in Tennessee, but as it happened, I later moved to Lexington. I assume it was used to drive bigwigs around at Red Mile race course here and may well have been imported.
As others have mentioned, rust is a huge problem with these bodies. Despite looking pretty sharp, mine was pretty much literally only held together by the paint on the bottom half; I once tried to jack the car up using the factory jack that stuck in a hole in the side body (great design…) and the “metal” just started folding.
The diesel in mine was weak — to take off, you floored it and it would roll away slowly. I suspect turbo problems, but I didn’t have the money to get it right. Pulling out of my blind curve rural driveway was always a death-defying thrill.
I paid $2500 in 1998 — way too much, and by far it’s my biggest regret in car purchases. I put it up for sale and managed to get $1800 after several months, and was lucky at that.
I still itch for one of them (a 450SEL), though…
You didn’t have turbo issues. The 1980 300D was naturally aspirated IIRC.
Quite a lot Mercedes from the mid 70s through the 80s were gray market imports. It was a big business, as a matter of fact. There were many companies importing and federalizing them. The reason: exchange rates and inflation had made the prices of official US market Mercedes very expensive. As the dollar rebounded very strongly, that meant that European prices (in dollars) were something like 30-40+% lower. So it made a very attractive business case to buy European cars, new or somewhat used, and spend the money to federalize them.
In LA in the mid 80s, there were good sized showrooms with nothing but gray market Benzes, BMWs, Porsches, and other premium European cars.
Yes, Germans rarely bought a Mercedes with leather upholstery back then, which was not considered to be appealing or luxurious. German (and most European) Mercedes invariably had this very high quality velour-ish cloth upholstery, except the taxis, which had the MB Tex. Vinyl and leather were considered utilitarian. Frankly, there’s something to that.
Agree on the European view of leather. My Irish ex-in-laws looked down at the leather interior of our Eagle Vision TSi. Their rental Eagle Vision ESi had “much nicer” cloth seats.
These W116 S Klasses Sedans kept their resale value for a long time, esp. the Diesels .
Slow Diesel always means needs tune up, the Diesel engine requires different tune up than gasoline engines do .
Beaters are cool ~ I’ve never bought a new car or truck ~ only Motocycles .
-Nate
2 years ago I bought All original 59K miles 1979 black / beige interior Mercedes 450SEL 6.9 U.S. SPECS . Approximately just over 7000 of these were made worldwide! The asking price was 40K I did pay 37. V clean All original car but I had some issues repairs done to hydraulic suspension and rear differential. This was the true 70s Muscle sedan from Mercedes.
I’d wonder what sort of fuel economy (or fuel consumption) you got on the 6.9. Those cars were pretty thirsty on fuel, I’ve heard, though of course they were fast and powerful.
The 6.9 engine is thirsty for fuel but its slightly bit better than my 1978 Cadillac Coupe Deville the reason being different technology carburettor vs fuel injection I would make guess about 2 mpg more than Cadillac. Its 285HP it’s fast big sedan but of course cant compete with todays 500 and 600 HP cars & suvs !!
As I recall they were considered the “fastest production car” available in the late 70s.
I learnt my lesson the hard way with a Mercedes beater. Mine was a ’86 420SE bought cheap, and everything that could go wrong did. And parts were expensive. Buy an S class at this end of the market with extreme caution!
At the time Mercedes Benz was the finest car in the world: Rock solid reliability, faultless build quality, superb driving dynamics, ergonomically perfect interiors and beautiful timeless styling.
Mercedes Benz still builds some of the world’s best automobiles, but unfortunately some models have slipped a few points in quality and reliability in recent years. But Mercedes has made a commitment to improve quality and reliability to once again be the King of the luxury car market.
Despite a minor slip in quality, Mercedes Benz products are still way over the moon superior, in every way, to Cadillac’s and Lincoln’s questionably built products.
An interesting story. These vintage-late 70s early 80s Mercedes were really nice looking, even with the big bumpers.
Never been a fan of leather, would rather have cloth seats.
In early 2012 I won an auction for a 2002 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series. The car was in great shape shined like new, ran great, and even had fairly new Michelins all around. It did have 165k miles but it had been taken care by its previous owner. I got the car for $650 but there was a catch, it had been hit in the front. I replaced the front bumper assembly, grill, and one headlight. The airbags had not deployed. After having the bumper painted by the local Maaco shop, doing all the fluid and filter changes, registration, title transfer, sales tax…etc I was out a total of $2200. Today the car is still with us, its my wife’s car, and it has 208k miles. It still runs great and will probably keep it until the wheels fall off. I’ve come to love these old Panthers.
My first beater was a 1990 Honda Accord EX that I inherited, but after the belt snapped on that one and ruined the engine head (yay interference engines), I bought a 1997 Volkswagen Jetta GLX VR6. Lost my shirt on that one. It really deserved to be driven enthusiastically, but the original owner had been a professor who’d faithfully driven it the 5 miles to and from the university every day, leading to a host of drivetrain-related issues.
That turned out rather well for you. I’ve owned plenty of cars with a similar philosophy. Overall I have made a profit but like your wife mine only seems to remember the few that didn’t turn out as well. Still cheaper than depreciation though!