Note: None of the images in this post are of the actual car
In 1961, the first Olds Cutlass, then called the F-85 Cutlass, was introduced. It was such a popular name that over the years there were cars called Cutlass, Cutlass Salon, Cutlass Ciera, Cutlass Cruiser, and Cutlass Calais. But there was only one Cutlass Supreme and that is the topic of this COAL.
I have to admit that I was not a big fan of the 1970’s vintage Cutlass Supreme. They were gas thirsty cars with big engines that did not have comfortable interior space. However, the general public did not share my observations and the Cutlass Supreme was the best selling Olds for many years. The downsized Cutlass introduced in 1978 did catch my eye with its thrifty 3.8L V6 and good interior space. I resisted the urge to buy one until 1988. In 1984, my neighbor’s son bought a new Cutlass Supreme with the V6, half vinyl roof, and rallye wheels. It was champagne colored with a brown cloth interior. Whenever he’d have it in the drive for a wash, I’d wander over and check it out. I liked what I saw, but not to the point of buying one. Other things had priority.
In 1988, I had heard that my state held periodic auto auctions in the state capital. Although primarily the means through which local taxi companies purchased the old police cruisers, there were also more civilian looking cars sold. I decided to attend the next one and see what I could buy. I was into car flipping at the time, so was always on the lookout for cheap wheels that needed little work and that also had good resale potential.
First on the list that day was a 1985 maroon Cutlass Supreme. It had the 307 Olds V8 and about 50,000 miles. Cloth interior, automatic transmission, AM radio, air conditioning, and not much else. No power seat, windows, or locks. Plain steel wheels with full wheel covers. Since most of the audience in attendance that day were interested in the police cruisers, I didn’t have much competition. A few bids later and the car was mine! It was a good price and the car seemed to be in good mechanical condition, although you weren’t allowed to test drive them. A few cars later, a similar Cutlass Supreme went for a higher price. Most likely the result of bidder’s remorse on the first Cutlass.
Once I got the Cutlass home, I started to look it over in detail. The engine ran well and all of the fluids looked good. The first thing to go was the AM radio. I found a factory AM/FM cassette radio with equalizer that made a vast improvement in sound and versatility.
This radio was simple to operate as compared to aftermarket DIN units that have tiny buttons. My next focus was the tires. Two of them were in good shape, but the other two were nearing the end of their useful life. A co-worker had a 73 Chevy Nova that he wanted to get rid of and said it had good tires. I went to look at it and he was right, the tires had decent tread left. Not only that, they were the correct size for the Cutlass! Let’s talk price, I said. His response was that he wanted the car gone and that if I wanted the tires, I’d have to take the entire car. Price? Free! My response? Sold!! I didn’t really want the car, but the price was right.
What I didn’t realize at the time of the Nova acquisition was that the car had a 350 V8. Wow! Couldn’t get the engine to start as the starter was bad. Upon talking to a different co-worker a few days later, it turns out his son was looking for that particular engine. $400 and you get the whole car as is. Sold! Hooked up my tow bar and moved it to his house. They were thrilled and later told me that they changed the starter and the engine ran fine.
The trunk of the Cutlass was a decent size, except for the intrusion of the spare tire. It would have been better if the spare was under the floor, but there’s not much anyone could do about it except take the spare out entirely.
The Cutlass was a decent car with style and power. With the lockup torque converter, it got much better mileage than the other V8 cars I’ve had in the past. Only rust issue was near the end of my ownership. I went to close the driver’s door and I heard something rattle. Closer inspection revealed that the door had rusted out where the door skin met the frame at the bottom. A little bit of welding later and it was repaired. The only mechanical issue I encountered was failure of one of the A/C lines. I knew someone who could re-weld the aluminum part of the hose assembly and it was as good as new.
I had planned to hang onto this car for a while, but soon had the opportunity to sell it at a profit. On the flipper side of my life, I had sold a 1978 Chrysler Cordoba. The folks that bought it soon realized that they really didn’t like it and wanted to sell it back to me. They had seen the Cutlass and asked if I was interested in cash and trade. I gave them credit for the Cordoba at the purchase price and added $1500 for the Cutlass. I was soon able to sell the Cordoba at the trade in price, so in the end both cars were gone to good homes.
It’s amazing how popular these cars were and then how quickly the sales fell off a cliff; the Cutlass in particular and coupes in general.
Makes me wonder how many more G-body Cutlass sedans they’d have sold if they’d been a bit bolder and given it the coupe’s urethane nose and rear bumper instead of going with a clone of the already-six-year-old first-gen Seville.
I was turned off by the leading edge of this generation. But around 1987 or so got one of these as a rental. It was decently powered with the 307 and I understood why they sold so well. This was one design that seemed to improve with age.
When these were at their peak in the 1980s, I used to want the sedan version. I guess what I liked was the ’76-’79 Seville-inspired look.
“Brougham”, of course!
The 1987 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Brougham sedan:
Another thing I liked about these and their corporate cousins the Buick Regal Limited and Pontiac Grand Prix LJ/SJ is that you could get leather “seating surfaces” as an option. And on the coupes only, for some reason, it was only the coupes, an astroroof.
I wonder how many of these cars rolled off the assembly line with leather AND an astroroof? Quite the rare find back then and even more so today.
Not many I am sure, but I had a Regal Limited with both. In 1985, I wanted a new car and decided on a Regal or Cutlass, but I was adamant that I wanted leather. Here in my area of North Carolina, people were just not buying them with leather and dealers stocked what sold. A trip to Charlotte to Folger Buick, Charlotte’s premier Buick dealership that had been in business since 1937 solved that problem. I remember telling the salesman what I was looking for and he pointed and said, “son, there are two rows of them with leather over there, take your pick.”
And, there they were… Every color offered and all equipped pretty much the same way. Getting the leather interior also got you the option of a neat little lockable storage compartment ahead of the front seats. My dad helped me get the car and I drove it until trading for a new 1991 Park Avenue. As many have said, I should have kept that one… Outside of that day, I never saw another one with leather.
My mother had one of these as a young professional in the ’80s. Even as a small kid, I remember how broughamy and out-of-date it felt compared to the very aero Camaro my father had concurrently. Mom said the thing was great in the New York snow and that it handled like a tank.
Once again, I agree with J P.
The “downsized” 1978 Oldsmobile Cutlass & Buick Regal were steaming piles of automotive offal exterior styling when compared to the cars they replaced, IMO.
With the 231 V6 they were under-powered dogs that gave little increase in gas mileage when compared to the 1977 models. The V8 models were acceptable, but not outstanding.
Gradually, over the ensuing years, as the exterior styling got tweaked, they became better looking cars. By the model year of this article car they almost looked good, if the right colors were chosen.
I personally believe that the base cars (like this article’s car) were more attractive inside than the more “upscale” models.
I had a 76 Cutlass with a 350 V8. Around town mileage was in the neighborhood of 10-13 MPG. The 307 in the 85 Cutlass got around 17 MPG in town.
This was what GM did well back in the day: body on frame, RWD and mostly V-8 power. It seemed that because of hubris and their unwilllngness to learn from the competition, GM’s switchover to smaller FWD unibody platforms was fraught with disaster.
Good article! I had bought an ’84 Cutlass Supreme Brougham in 1998 as my first car, as I’d always loved how tough and rugged these looked, especially with rally rims. I could do a COAL on it. It was a burgundy/ dark brown red color, in really good condition, and I’d learned the hard way that you just can’t make the 305 into a muscle car engine……but it sounded awesome with a couple of Rhino mufflers for a custom dual exhaust.
The guy that I bought it off had did some significant work (especially on the paint/ body), as I’d found out a few years later when getting ready for a repaint, the bondo was bubbling and after removing the lower door skins, there was significant rust underneath. That lower chrome door trim must have had hid some terminal rust. It was a nice, smooth driving car though, and considering its age, it gave me few mechanical problems (choke stuck open in the winter when I was driving, and I had to steer towards the curb……luckily that engine didn’t have much power to begin with!). The rear framerails were getting the usual rot, and eventually, a guy ran a red light and T-boned me. It was a total writeoff, as the whole driver’s side from the door to the front of the car was pretty much demolished. But it saved my life.
I had encountered a guy on Kijiji that was buying G body cars, and asked him if he’d seen mine in an Autopac auction. He remembered it, and said that “it is a donor for many cars all over North America”, so that made me feel good. There were still a lot of great parts on it.
I had a ’83 Cutlass with the bucket seats, rallye wheels and console. I bought it used, but I found the build sheet under the back seat which indicated that it had the handling suspension. That’s why it handled much better than my buddy’s ’82 Regal.
Had it for 12 years with minimal issues. Any parts needed were dirt cheap and readily available. Very easy to maintain!! The 231 V6 was slow, but it kept running and running with just oil changes. Finally gave it up because I couldn’t get Freon 12a at the time to recharge the A/C.
I consider it one of my better automotive experiences!!
My best friend growing up was from a GM family, and Oldsmobile in particular. They had two Cutlasses, an 80 and an 84 I believe. One was the earlier downsized “chunkier” models and the other was as pictured above. The older one has the 260 V8 I think and the later the 307. Both seemed to be good cars, and I don’t recall being much trouble, having ridden in them a lot. Of course, my friend had a brother so this was a family of four (and me) riding in a two-door sedan! How times have changed. It was not even an issue really, climbing in the back. Seemed natural at the time.
My friend liked Cutlasses so much when he got his license, his first car was (of course) another Cutlass! That kind of brand loyalty GM would kill for today.
Lots of good memories of these cars, comfortable drivers and handling could be improved with better and wider tires, except in the winter, when the old-school winter tires were placed on the rear, and a few bags of lead shot tossed in the trunk!
A co-worker had a gold Cutlass in the early 1980’s. She took it to a busy dealer for service, and they lost it. She drove a loaner for 2 days or so, until her car was discovered in an adjacent parking lot. Probably lost in a sea of cutlasses.
It would have been better if the spare was under the floor, but there’s not much anyone could do about it except take the spare out entirely.
That’s where the fuel tank is located. You flip the rear numberplate down to access the fuel cap. Can’t imagine how the rear fuel filler was ever legal back then after the series of Pinto mishaps.
Cue in the fiery Pinto explosion…
And yet the Pinto didn’t have a rear filler. It was on the left rear fender.
And the bottom of the right quarter panel has a rounded area that hangs below the character line, to make room for the spare tire. I guess that was a better alternative than laying the spare tire flat in what was already a none too large trunk.
I had two of these- a ’78 and an ’84. They were both coupes, fully loaded but not Broughams. The ’78 had the 260V8, the ’84 the 307. Reliable, comfy, smooth- I probably put 5,000 extra miles on the ’84 taking a baby for evening rides to put him to sleep. Both cars wound up getting sold to the same people.
I love the cutlass supreme. I am on the look out for one with bucket seats and t top. I think it would make a nice weekend cruiser for me and family. Seats 5 has ac, v8 and with the right exhaust sound good.
Ah the 1985 Cutlass
I had a 1985 Cutlass Supreme Sedan up until a few years ago. It was a Brougham with vinyl roof and power everything.
The power seat motor died in the closest to the steering wheel position so I had to source a new one. I opted for a manual seat track because I did not want to screw with another faulty power seat track. It seems that was a weak point on this model.
I replaced the filler panel on the dash (with the Olds rocket) with a clock and the clock panel. The 84-88 Cutlass Supreme G-Body models had a digital radio with a clock so the clock was removed from the car option books and a filler panel was put in place instead. However the clock plug and screw holes were still there and the plug had power running through it so I just got the clock, clock panel and the screws and it was good to go.
I hated the spare tire location as the bottom of it hung down under the car and a couple of times I crushed it backing up against a curb which resulted in beating it back into shape with a rubber hammer and then spraying paint on it on both the inside and outside to keep it from rusting.
I have owned 3 RWD G/A body cars (1985 Cutlass Sedan, 1987 Cutlass Sedan and 1980 Malibu Sedan) and found them comfortable to drive
Very interesting COAL.
I’ve shown it before, but here’s a pic of my wife’s ’85 Cutlass Supreme. It was her Dad’s car, bought new in ’85. It’s still in near perfect condition, and is a very nice car to drive or ride in.
I’ve seen you post this before, and I never get sick of it. Beautiful Cutlass! Those rally rims and raised white letter tires best exemplify how quickly these cars took on a tough, sporty muscle car look, without abandoning the luxury/ classy vibe, either.
Thanks! Olds really did a nice job blending a luxury feel with a sporty flair. The V8 is very smooth, and starts from a stop feel quick with a nice sound, yet highway cruising is quiet and effortless.
Wow! So …. how much?
I bought and sold four with this body style as a very young man in the 80s and 90s: two Supremes, a Calais and a “442.” All of them used. The power and gas mileage weren’t great, but I thought I was getting away with something by owning such cushy, grown-up cars (the Calais and 442, at least) on the cheap.
And for what it’s worth, I thought the trunks were cavernous, even with the spare.
Out of all the G-bodies, these Cutlasses were always my favorite- the perfect combination of luxury and performance.
The only reason on never took the plunge on one of these is local demographics. Where I live, these cars were hugely popular with da homeboyz back during the cars’ heyday. And there lay the problem. If yours wasn’t stolen outright, you ran a big risk of getting carjacked, constantly harassed by local cops, or being shot at after being mistaken for a rival / enemy. Regals, El Caminos, and even Coupe De Villes from that same era often carried the same baggage.
Forutnately, most gangstas and wannabe gangstas could care less about these nowadays. They’d much rather have an older, slightly beat up Escalade or Navigator with rims worth more than the whole vehicle.