At some point in 2021, my good friend Nolan posted his newly acquired 2000 528i in a group we’re both a part of. He’d just bought it from a woman in Colorado, where he frequently was, and it was to be his daily driver. For reference, Nolan buys, restores and sells vintage cars, usually British sports cars: think Austin-Healeys, Triumphs, MGs, Lotuses and other cars that are small, spartan and less-than-comfortable. So, the 5 Series would have been quite a nice daily for him.
I’ve always liked the fourth generation “E39” 5 Series, which lasted from 1996 through 2003. It was a comprehensively engineered, safe and athletic car at every level: from the lowly 520i and 520d cars that were sold in other markets all the way up to the powerhouse M5. Although this car was in somewhat rough cosmetic shape, it did have one draw: it was a 5-speed manual.
Fast forward several months later, to early 2022, and Nolan has decided to use a different car as his daily driver, for the sheer excitement of something new. Because of course he has. He’s as bad as I am when it comes to switching cars, only he manages to actually make money doing so. Anyway, I’d expressed interest in it, and specifically interest in better learning how to drive a manual. I kind of knew what I was doing when it came to manual transmissions. I’d gotten a rough (and I do mean rough) start on a friend’s 2009 MINI Convertible S 6MT. And then someone formally taught me on their brand-new 2018 Honda HR-V 6MT, because I’d helped them find the car in the first place. But I wanted a manual-transmission car of my own, to really hone my skills. Over lunch one day, I expressed interest in it, so Nolan took me to see it.
As I said before, the E39 5 Series lasted from 1997 through 2003. 1997-2000 models were pre-facelift, while 2001-2003 were post-facelift. This E39 had the updated version of the M52 I6, measuring 2.8 liters and developing some 193 hp and 207 lb-ft of torque and a ZF 5-speed manual. It was also an M Sport, so it lacked most of the exterior chrome and had the 3-spoke steering wheel in place of the usual 4-spoke. The M52 was fundamentally bulletproof, so I wasn’t worried about that. Nolan told me the clutch had recently been replaced by the former owner, and there was proof of that in the glovebox.
That’s not to say it was a nice car. There was a lot wrong with it, mostly cosmetically. Walking up to the 528i from behind, I was immediately greeted by a faded roundel, a cracked rear bumper, a small dent on the edge of the trunk-lid, and questionable tires. Around the front, much of the trim on the bumper was tired and hazed, the front roundel was equally as faded as the back, and someone had replaced the headlights with aftermarket ones at some point. Inside, the headliner was failing, the A-pillar trim was missing (Nolan assured me he had these at his shop), the seats needed dying, the speedometer worked intermittently, some of the radio pixels had failed and the front cupholders were broken. But it drove okay. I stalled several times, but it seemed to run fine, which was all I wanted. With that in mind, I offered Nolan $1,800 instead of the $2,300 he wanted, and we struck a deal.
So, when Nolan said he’d let it go for $2,250, I talked him down to $1,800 and then struck a deal.
I came several days later to get the car, without Nolan there, though I had the keys. I figured the battery would be dead, and it was, so I came with a fresh battery. Getting it to the gas station (it was on fumes) and then home, 25-odd miles away in Edmond, was nerve-wracking, but I managed not to stall it. During that time, I observed the speedometer and cruise control failing to work and got a warning for a bulb being out on the right rear.
My best friend Austin drove it a few days later and came to a lurching stop so suddenly that the front passenger window regular, already on its way out, completely let go and allowed the window to drop fully into the door with a loud thud. So that was the first fix. I thought about just going to the junkyard and grabbing an E39 regulator, but didn’t want to go through all the trouble of replacing it and then having it fail again. So, I bought a new one off of FCP Euro for $50, which included their lifetime warranty, and installed it.
The other fix I performed was simple, which was for a problem I hadn’t noticed when I was buying the car. The sunroof opened and closed without issue, but someone had tied a piece of string to a hole in the deflector, which you needed to pull to fold the deflector and get the roof to close. Otherwise, the glass would impact the deflector and the pinch protection would cause it to stop and open back up. A quick perusal of the E39 forums told me that this was a common issue. Bending the deflector slightly and making sure the springs were greased was all that was needed to get everything back working, according to the forums. Failing that, you could unbolt and remove the deflector, and the additional wind noise would hardly be noticeable. I tried the former solution of bending it back into shape and it worked just fine.
At some point, after I had to replace the new battery under warranty, I got the bright idea to wire in a switch, so that I could safely disconnect the battery if the car went unused for more than a month.
Other than that, in the intervening 18 months or so, I’ve not really done anything with the 528i. I’ve driven it mainly at night (since the A/C doesn’t work) and practiced driving a manual transmission car, and I’ve gotten pretty good at it. At the outset, I had it in my mind that it would be a good project car, but I can’t see putting any money into it. Good condition E39s in vastly more desirable spec go for under $5,000, and this 528i needs at least $3,000 in cosmetic work alone to look anything like presentable. Recently, the passenger-rear window regularly failed and dropped the window into the glass, and I think for that one, I really will just pull the door panel off and prop the glass back up. I haven’t even fixed the wonky speedometer, which I bet is just down to a bad wheel-speed sensor and would be an easy fix.
I’m the type to fire the parts cannon at a car—and spend copious amounts of money in so doing—to get it looking and driving nice, so it’s been an interesting experience to have something where I know I’m not going to do that. That said, the driveway is getting a little full, so I think it will get the old heave-ho soon. I’ll probably sell it or donate it to a charity, or perhaps a local automotive school.
A handsome and no doubt reasonably fun to drive automobile……..when it run$$$….OOP$. Reminds me of my Porsche ’68 912 5 spd. and ’74 914, 2.0L; both of which cured me of the urge to ever have another fine Jhurrmun car!! They too were definitely fun to drive, when they ran.
Actually they reminded me of my 1957 Triumph 6T Thunderbird 650 I had long ago: it left a trail of parts and oil all over the Mojave and L.A. area. The bike did a GR8 job of keeping a young Marine’s wallet FLAT! It did SOUND good tho when running with its stock exhaust system.
Achh but vee live and learn……maybe?? 🙂 Think I’ll stick mit der Jhurrmun BIER instead!! DFO
The only E39 I’ve driven was a 5 speed, but with a V8, a 540. It was very nice, but it was my boss’ car so I didn’t really explore its potential. As I recall he kept it for well over 100K and it looked perfect cosmetically, so I think they do hold up ok if not neglected. He drives an M5 now, his 3rd or 4th BMW; the 540 was the first, replacing a 911.
The 540i and M5 (the V8 models) would have had the 6MT, rather than the 5MT that the I4 and I6 models had.
Also, due to packaging, the V8 models had recirculating-ball steering, while the smaller engines had rack-and-pinion.
Thanks for catching that. You know, as I typed 5 I wondered about it, but this was at least 20 years ago. And I only drove it in town … probably never got it out of third. In hindsight, it must have been the first 6MT car I’d driven, and I’ve never owned one, nor a 3MT for that matter; just 4 and 5. Several 6 speed motorcycles though.
The E39 was the last German sedan I had a serious lust for. It was the peak of the classic BMW formula.
I am a bit surprised at your restraint on this one, but you’re right, it really is a hooptie now. And I can see the appeal of it, for what it is. Enjoy it and…move on.
Yes, any money I put into this would definitely be a labor of love. And I don’t love it. I like the chassis and suspension a lot, but the engine and transmission leave a lot to be desired. I wish it had a 6MT (like the 540i and M5) got, because it cruises on the highway at 2,500 RPM in top gear, when I think 2,000 RPM would be ideal.
Perhaps I’ll find a cherry 540i someday. Or a wagon. Or a 540i wagon.
In my (and BMW’s) opinion, 2000 rpm would be too low on this small six’ torque curve. 2500 seems just about right for me, given how smooth it is. It’s annoying to not have decent throttle response on the highway when wanting to speed up a bit. It would require a downshift.
Cool old beater, but you are wise not to get too invested. Old German (of this vintage anyway..) cars remind me of “that” girl who comes along once in awhile. Fun to hang with, but trying for a commitment is going to be expensive, painful and ultimately end in disaster.
Enjoy it, but know when to cut bait!
There is something freeing about a car when you can get past the urge to significantly improve it, or to bring it back to what it is supposed to be. An old friend worked for a small service station, and the proprietor was known for this advice when someone came in with some minor problem: “Drive it.” This is the car that fits that bit of advice.
When I tired of replacing window regulators in my aging 93 Crown Vic, I took the panel off, raised the window and then drove a screw into the track to keep it from falling back down. It was a rear window so was all but useless anyway.
I will confess that I still get the attraction of these BMWs. But I am long past the point of wanting to adopt one.
This car is why BMW means :
Bring
My Wallet .
Old German luxury cars are always money pits after five years, why there are always so many for sale dirt cheap .
The main thing is : you got it cheap, had your fun and are ready to dump it, getting good $ for it isn’t hard, do a massive detail and cleanup, some kid or dufus will grap it quickly .
ALSO :
Bavarian
Money
Waster .
-Nate
A fun read as always Kyree. As Nate mentions above, when I was looking for a winter beater last year, old German cars are all over the place at dirt cheap prices. Tempting in a way but I’ve never put the brakes on and had a window fall down in anything I’ve owned. I don’t even think I have changed a window regulator ever.
So more power to those who keep these old German cars going. They are neat to see.
Six speeds sounds like too much shifting (I’ve never driven more than four), or do most people normally start in Second?
My 04 Deville had 3 out of 4 Pop ‘n Drop windows over 6 years. I learned the hard way not to grab tempered glass with vice grips. I was washing my dad’s 00 LeSabre, and both rear windows went at the same time.
The defining quality of a Hooptie is a beat up body with a good drive train. Usually they have been sideswiped with one or both quarter panels bashed in. This kind of damage is beyond the “unbolt and replace” scope of the average DIY er. As you mentioned, many of the power accessories and the a/c are likely to be B/O.
They are not super desirable models, so the new owner is not likely to invest any money in cosmetic repairs. We used to call these cars beaters, when they were regular low level cars, with the Hooptie title reserved for a thrashed luxury model.
Your old Beemer looked pretty good. You really have to like a car a lot to make the commitment to fix all the problems with the intention of long term ownership. You showed that you could do that with some of the other cars that you have reported on. As a financial proposition investing in fixing up any old car is a losing game, unless you manage to keep it over the long term.
Knowing when to call it quits is the important thing. I’m in a similar situation. I’ve owned my ’96 Mustang for almost 14 years as a hobby car. I made the commitment to keep it in good shape and have invested well over what it’s worth to keep it in good mechanical condition. I was going to sell it, as I’ve gotten another Mustang to replace it. But wouldn’t you know it, it has developed some mechanical issues that will prevent me from smogging it for sale. Now the registration is coming up, the repair will be several hundred bucks, and if I fix it, I won’t get any more for the car than I would before this happened. I admit that I’ve got a sentimental attachment to this car that has been built up over the years, but I would like the empty parking space
I’ll probably just pay the registration, and keep it for now. It doesn’t have to be smogged for the renewal. I’ll have another whole year to decide what to do.
Your 528 M is much less dramatic than your previous cars and I thought you were surely going to get in a pickle with this one. How do you like driving a manual transmission? Would you buy another manual if it was a sports car or go with a modern dual clutch transmission with paddles? Since you mentioned driving at night due to no A/C have you managed to avoid stop and go traffic? Other than my first car I have only owned manual cars. Primarily because all of them have been smaller economy cars with low output engines (by US standards) that benefit from being able to choose the best gear for the situation, especially driving in inclement weather.
Longtime BMW owner, driver and enthusiast here. Mostly my wife, but obviously I’ve put many miles on them too, but we’re pushing 300K miles, not Kilometers, but miles on E39s. Now I do my own work so that distorts it a bit, but for the current 525it we’ve put about 100K on I’m running almost $.06 a mile for maintenance and repairs. In other words oil changes, tires and everything else. For it’s predecessor, a 528it which I really liked much better, the number was $.045 for the 145K we put on it. So I’ve got to wonder how many of those old hoary jokesters who rant about how expensive they are to keep running have ever owned one. They do have quirks like the radiator and cooling system you have to stay on top of, but the 6 cylinder cars at least, just don’t wear out.
It is a good platform, we were almost ready to buy a Volvo 850, with more miles for the same money when we looked at our first E39. To say it was Yugo vs Rolls Royce is a bit of an exaggeration, but not by much. The 528i sedan was faster, quieter, had a much nicer interior, better A/C, better interior ventilation, just head and shoulders nicer car. I suspect it will last longer too. The 00 528it we sold with 253K on it didn’t use a bit of oil, dipstick said it was full at oil change time.
The cars are far to automatic for me, not just the transmission, but truthfully it’s all cars today. The power this and that are the worst things about them. And I’ve never even had to replace a window regulator, though I may be the only one with 300K on the chassis that hasn’t.
I drove an E39 528i quite extensively for a few months in Los Angeles in the late 1990s. It belonged to my then-partner, and his friends were astonished that he let me drive it.
I was hugely impressed, and it remains probably my ideal car – sensibly sized, nice to drive (even with an automatic) and silky smooth. I remember one drive from LA to Las Vegas – driving at 80mph through the desert, air conditioning keeping us comfortable and Cole Porter on the CD player – I decided that this was the ultimate ground travel of the 20th century.
More on BMW for other name, Break My Wallet, Break My Window, and new meaning is Big Mouth Woman, just look how big its front trademark kidney grill has become. More outrageous is the electric vehicles have bigger mouth.
Back to E39, I like it than E46, but many people will disagree that. My mechanic days the problem is E39 is heavier and less power making it a bit sluggish in comparison with E46. I only drove an E46 330i briefly, that vehicle didn’t offer the “wow” factor on me as much as I drove a 1997?Audi A4 with 1.8 liters engine coupled with 5-speed manual transmission. That is my personal taste and opinion.