It’s been a while since my 2002 Tacoma post but as you may recall, I had been shopping for a bigger truck to accommodate our growing family as we were to host a foreign exchange student soon. Right around this time, a close friend of mine was looking to sell his company truck at trade-in price. It was too sweet of a deal to pass up.
My friend has always been very meticulous about keeping up his things and this company truck was no exception. Always serviced at the dealer and so very clean despite being subjected to salty Iowa roads for six winters at the time of purchase. Frequent underside baths are cruical. There was a scant 120,000 miles on the odometer, hardly break-in for the mighty 4.0 V6 Tacoma, though the six-speed manual transmission is known to be somewhat of an Achilles heel in these trucks. This trans had already had a full reseal and clutch replacement at 60,000 miles. Now the throw-out bearing was chatting up a storm as they’re known to do (there’s another six-speed in my neighborhood that does exactly the same as it drives by). My wife did not appreciate the loud aftermarket muffler but I was too cheap/not bothered enough by it to change it. Overall the truck was pristine, recently had new tires installed and the price was certainly right.
We appreciated the bigger cab and rear access doors when our student came because we would frequently all pile in to go biking, camping, kayaking, hiking and other adventures where a truck was required. It was the right call and though he’s since left, I’m glad I didn’t opt for a crew cab for just my wife and me (though we hope to host another student again sometime soon).
The truck was great for that year but my most frequent destination was to work, situated on the other end of town, and the trip there is all stop and go traffic. I love manual transmissions but going through the gears all the time can be tedious and this was not a particularly fun manual vehicle, either. I recognize this is a heavy, mid-sized 4×4 truck and not a sports car but this truck would hardly accelerate to keep up with traffic without really givin’ it the mustard. So between all the shifting, rev hang and perceived laziness of the truck, I was just curious to see what an automatic truck might do for me.
I was really hoping I could trade in this truck and get into a similar automatic truck for minimal money out of pocket but last year through current is hardly a buyer’s market. One Saturday I sought out a suitable automatic truck that was within a decent price range and we test drove it. We both loved it. She liked the quieter exhaust and I found the automatic to be much more suitable and also peppier. It also kept the engine speed a bit lower out on the highway despite being having one fewer gear? Must be some overdrive/torque converter voodoo… The truck was two years newer and had 50,000 fewer miles but was also a rebuilt salvage title truck that had recently been repaired. We liked what we saw in that truck.
The dealer did not want to give me all too much for the truck so I thought I’d be better off with a private sale. Pricing it was a dilemma. KBB really isn’t a good guide and comparable trucks were selling or at least were listed for quite a bit higher locally. But I also knew I didn’t want to sit on it forever and miss out on the truck we test drove. I priced it quite a bit lower and had instant interest that morning. The first inquiry was some random guy but the second was my really good friend who lives just a few blocks south of me. I would’ve offered it to him first had I known he was in the market! So, of course, I sold it to him. I also lowered the price twice more for him because in my close circle we have a thing called “friend price”. I got the truck for a great deal from my buddy and so should he.
I am grateful for the truck while we had it that year. It filled our needs well and didn’t cost us much to own during that short while. My friend still has the truck and enjoys it so I count it as a win that he got a great price on it and appreciates it.
It’s always great when you can sell to a friend, and both are still happy with the sale! Timing is everything, and it seems to have been working out just right for you! 🙂
You bet! It worked out well coming and going with this truck.
Interesting that you didn’t like the 6MT, as it’s certainly has its fans. The only six cylinder MT Toyota’s that I’ve driven have been 3.slow and the later 3.4 V6 with 5 speeds. The 4.0 AT’s I’ve driven have seemed well matched to the motor, but my 6 speed AT 3.5 3rd Gen is pretty doggy down low. Not sure an MT would help much, and as much as the MT fans like their’s, there are also complaints about the shift hang, notchy shifting, and tall reverse gear. I hope you like the new(er) one!
Yeah, maybe the truck needed a tune-up or some maintenance (which I doubt due to the truck having all records and serviced at the dealership) but it felt like driving a big ol dump truck with that engine/trans combo. The 4.0 matched to the 5-speed auto is a rocketship comparatively.
My buddy has a ’19 with the 3.5 and a 6 man and I think he gets along well with it but being his first Tacoma, there’s nothing to compare to. I know many 3.5 owners lament the loss of power over the 4.0.
That’s an attractive truck inside and out, and the manual is a plus too! It’s a bummer I don’t fit well into Toyota Tacomas since I like most other aspects of them…
They’re pretty great trucks! Though some new contenders are shaking up the market. If I was looking at new trucks today the new Ford Ranger and Honda Ridgeline would be on the shortlist, too.
Great story, Sam. To echo Moparman’s comment, it’s great to be able to both sell your truck and help out a friend with the sale.
Looking at the picture of the Tacoma from the side with the doors open, I’m fairly certain that I’ve ridden in cars before with much less interior space in back than that! LOL
I’m glad you all found a new-to-you truck more suited to your needs. I loved driving my manual-transmission cars, but that was when I lived in much smaller cities and rush hour / stop-and-go traffic wasn’t an issue.
Thanks, Joseph!
Yes, doing the three-pedal shuffle can be tedious sometimes but I do miss going through the gears!
For sure. I’m still wrapping my brain around the fact that manuals are going away. It just doesn’t seem right!
Yes, it’s a shame! Thankfully there are still just a few options out there yet. More of a reason to buy a classic, eh?
Haven’t experienced a 4.0 to any significant degree. For 10 years I drove a 2002 4×4 with the 2.7 liter 4 cyl and a 5-speed. Great truck! I liked the torque curve for regular driving, although it was a little wheezy on hills when climbing hills on the Interstate.
I replaced it with a 2019 Access Cab 4×4 with the 3.5 liter and the 6-speed MT. The 2002 was sold to a co-worker for an amount below market no doubt similar to the friend price you mentioned.
I love the extra doors over the 2002. I miss the low end driveability of the 2.7, but the 3.5 does step out when you spin it up bit. The extra power will be appreciated if we ever pull the trigger on a smaller camp trailer. The 6-speed was an adjustment due to the wider shift gate and the cab is noisier than I expected, but insulation is on the to-do list.
I’m not a fan of the seating position, but knew it would be different that the 2002 based on magazine tests/impressions. One of those trade-offs you make with most any vehicle. In 2019, the selection was sparse if one wanted an extended cab, 6 cyl., MT, 4×4 medium sized truck. If I’d been willing to consider an automatic, I would have definitely cross-shopped, since the magazines seemed much more impressed with the Ranger powertrain.
I do miss the smaller size of the 2002 when it’s just my wife and me. That was a dang good truck. But the roomier cab was sure nice when our family temporarily swelled!
My dad is considering a new truck but the Tacoma was ruled out due to that “sit on the floor” position. I wonder if that’s something they’ve addressed in their 2021 refresh… And yes, the new Ranger seems to be giving the Tacoma a run for the money.
Low seating position is pretty much a trademark of small(er) Toyota pickups by now.