1966 Buick Riviera. Backsliding, poor decisions, and good money thrown after bad… Lots of good money thrown after bad! But even with all that, I truly loved this car!
My ’71 Riviera had been a very nice car in really good condition. Straight body, nice shiny paint, a clean immaculate interior, and in good running condition.
So what should I do with it? How about I sell it, and start over again with something really rough?
Yeah, that’s the ticket!
I had developed an idea that I wanted an example of all three early generation models; a ’63-’65,’66-’70, to go along with a ’71.
For some reason, I forgot all the lessons that I’d learned with my old ’66 Lincoln. I should have known better than to buy a car with a lot of problems that were clearly apparent. While the body was straight, and all the trim was complete, the paint was badly faded. There were areas of light surface rust on the top surfaces of the car. It didn’t have a vinyl top –I’d insisted on that– but it was apparent that there were rust issues around the windshield and back window flanges. Those were swollen with rust and allowed water to leak inside. The interior wasn’t that great either. The front seat, an Astro Bench, was cracked and had split seams, and so did the rear. It was a highly optioned car; with a custom level interior, long armrests and dual door release handles. The cruise control and a/c didn’t work, but all the power windows and the AM/FM radio did.
To top it off, it didn’t run very well either. It was hard to start, ran poorly when cold, and there was an audible clicking sound from at least one lifter.
So why did I buy the thing? I’m guessing that with what I could sell the ’71 for, I could buy this scruffy ’66 and an equally scruffy ’63. I liked the ’66 style better than the ’71, or even the ’63. I thought that I could always find another Boat Tail later on.
Of course, a reasonable person would think that it is more important to have a single example in the best shape possible, instead of the specific model year style that you preferred. (This was the reasoning that led me to my recent purchase of my ’97. Maybe not the most beautiful model, but a car in good condition at a good price).
This car led me down a tortuous rabbit hole of repair, replacement, expensive shop labor, engine rebuilding, and more. Inquiring minds might ask, “Why didn’t you just walk away?” I’ll answer in the words of the Jackson Five who had a hit entitled “I Never Can Say Goodbye!”
Another trite saying is, “In for a dime, in for a dollar!” In this case, several thousand dollars, but why get ahead of the story?!
When I brought the ’66 home, my young son took a look at it and exclaimed. “Dad! Not another fixer upper!” Out of the mouths of babes!
After I fiddled with the choke mechanism and replaced the exhaust manifold heat pipe with the choke, I got the car to start and run much better. What about that lifter click? I blindly hoped that it was due to the lack of use, that the lifters were “gummed up” and it would work itself out after I started driving it more. Gummed up? Oh, it was due to a lot more than gum, as I would soon learn. Maybe I just needed to replace a lifter. So I pulled the rocker arm covers to take a look. What I discovered would chill the heart of any sane mechanic!
What follows is a grimy account of the problems associated with trying to repair an old car with an equally neglected old engine. I’m going to go into some detail, because it is an integral part of the decisions that I made. Part two of this post will deal with my experiences once the car was restored to driving condition.
The rocker arm shaft mechanism was encrusted in a thick coating of baked on oil sludge and the drain channels were half choked up with more sludge. This was the filthiest motor that I had, or would ever see. Did the previous owner ever change the oil?
I would have to remove the intake manifold and the sheet metal valley cover under it, to access the lifter valley so that I could replace the lifters. Next, I would have to pull the rocker shafts and push rods to be able to remove them. Once I pulled that cover and looked into the valley, I realized that there was no way that my halfway measures would be of any use. Sludge, sludge, and more sludge! I would eventually scrape more than a small coffee can’s worth of sludge off the internal surfaces and components of the engine upon its eventual teardown.
I removed the heads and dropped them off at an untried and un-recommended machine shop for a rebuild. They were returned, cleaned, and repainted and I thought they would be ready to bolt on. I didn’t know that this machine shop had never worked on old American V8s, as their primary experience was on small import four cylinder engines. This point will be important later in the story…
I found the problem for the clicking lifters when I tore the engine down. A couple of valves were burned and stuck partially open, this extra clearance resulted in the noise as the valve train took up the excessive clearance.
I decided that I would strip the block and see if I could clean it up satisfactorily. On any old V8 engine the timing chain and sprockets would likely be worn out. I decided to check, and that required removing the water pump, and under that, the timing case cover. The water pump was held on with good sized bolts and though they were rusty, they yielded without too much trouble. The timing case cover is made of aluminum and held on with many smaller bolts. As I removed them, one snapped off, then another, and then another. I finally removed the cover and discovered that two had broken off below the surface of the block. I removed the broken bolts that were sticking out, but could not get access to drill out the broken bolts. I used penetrating oil and every trick that I could think of without success.
I went to the local auto store and bought an engine hoist so that I could pull the engine. Looking at the rusty, sludgy mess lying on the garage floor, I knew that a full rebuild would be needed.
This time I asked the crew at my local independent auto parts store for a recommendation, and found a good nearby machine shop. I cleaned the exterior of the block off as well as I could. I wrapped it in rags and put it inside a large trash bag. I had laid some cardboard in the back of my new Honda Civic hatchback and loaded the motor for its trip to the machine shop. The shop would disassemble the block, remove the crankshaft, cam, and would boil out the block and remove the broken bolts. They would also bore out the block, refinish the crankshaft, and replace the camshaft bearings. In short, a total rebuild.
When it was finished, I carefully reassembled the engine, including the rebuilt heads. I used the hoist to set the motor back in the chassis and tied up all the loose ends. Then it was time for the moment of truth!
If you’ve ever rebuilt, or done extensive repair to an engine, you know there is a lot of apprehension when starting it up for the first time. You didn’t forget any parts did you? You didn’t forget to torque everything down properly, did you?
I primed the carb and turned the key and the engine fired up to life. I nursed the throttle to keep it running until it warmed up. Clack, clack, clack clack! Maybe the lifters just needed to fill up with oil. Give it a little more time. The engine came to operating temperature and settled into a steady ideal. Clack, clack, clack, clack!
Wasn’t this the problem that I tore down the engine to fix? What could be the problem? I decided to pull the lifters to confirm that they were full of oil. They were all full. I “soaked” them in an oil bath then reinstalled them. The rocker arm assemblies had been thoroughly cleaned and didn’t appear to be worn out. All the push rods looked nice and straight, I re-assembled all the parts and fired it up again. Clack, clack, clack, clack! Argh!!! Channeling an old Peanuts special Charlie Brown response! There may have been other less family friendly responses that escaped my lips. !!!###@@@@****!!!! What could it be? The engine ran and idled fine.
Days passed and I wondered if it was the rocker assemblies. So I decided to buy a new, not rebuilt set. More time and money passed. When they arrived I changed those parts out.
Crossing my fingers I fired it up. It started right away. Clack, clack, clack, clack! Argh!!! I turned the engine off, closed the hood and walked away. Time to mull over my options. Could this be a problem with the internal engine components? I did not want to to pull the engine and tear it down, again. But something had to done, but not today.
There was an old established garage housed in a converted horse stable a mile down the road from my house. The Evergreen garage had been in that spot for over seventy five years and their mechanics were quite familiar with American V8s. Like many shops, the people were friendly, but they could only spend a limited time dispensing free advice. “Bring it in and we’ll take a look at it when we’re not busy with other jobs.” That was their concession on giving me a break on the expense.
A couple of days later I fired up the Riv and clackety clacked my way down to the garage. I left it there and walked home. They would call me when they found something out. I got a call a few days later and they asked me to come by. They hadn’t found anything wrong with the rocker arm assemblies and asked if they could pull the heads. I told them to go ahead.
Days passed and I got another call to drop by. They had found the problem.
They had pulled the heads, and wouldn’t you know it? Some of the valve heads were hitting the tops of the pistons! Clackety, clack! He showed me the tops of the pistons and there were clearly visible marks.
“How could this be happening? The heads had been rebuilt?”
The mechanic led me to a workbench where the heads were sitting. He held a straight edge along the top of the valve tips. Some were standing higher than the others. This resulted in the rocker arms forcing the valves far enough down to strike the pistons. Clackety, clack!
When the prior shop had ground the valve seats this caused the valves to be recessed further in the head, resulting in the improper height. The shop should have trimmed the valve stems length to compensate. This was a common procedure with old time valve jobs, but the shop that I had chosen was unfamiliar with the process. They would simply have replaced the valve seats in the engine they were familiar with. The mechanic told me that the heads were pretty much toast, as they also had been excessively machined to ensure a flat surface. A set of rebuildable heads would have to be sourced, then everything could be properly rebuilt and assembled. Where are you going to find thirty year old heads?
They were willing to locate the heads and finish up the job, but I’d already spent close to a grand on their labor and assessment. I told them that I was going to locate another set of heads and I would get back to them. I had driven the Riv to the shop, but I had to have it towed home in shame, with the disassembled components in the trunk!
Could things get any worse? Tune in for part Two.
I have some history with a Nailhead.
Oil is carried up to the rocker shafts in very small passages that emerge with the hold down bolts.
The exhaust valves at the “long” end of the staggered heads might burn first if, say, you drive from Lexington to Louisville wide open.
Still, the darn thing never Kia’d out !!!!
Oof, that’s a sad story. There’s really nothing like paying someone else good money to screw something up.
When I got ahold of my grandfathers 1980 Concord, the engine was sludged up like that. I think because he drove very little he never changed the oil for years and years.
I hope part 2 is more successful and less expensive.
Backsliding, poor decisions, and good money thrown after bad
You’ve just described my entire life with old cars! Seriously, for some of us, there’s a real draw toward making something work that’s been neglected. If I ever tallied up what I have spent on my junkers, it would be clear that I could have simply bought a much nicer car. But I wouldn’t have a hobby, and cars like this Riviera are what I’m comfortable with.
Sure, sometimes I wish I would just buy something like your boattail and be done with it, but I never actually do. Regarding the Nailhead: It does have a few quirks, but it’s still the coolest looking V8 out there (IMO). And it’s pretty tough to beat a Riviera. Although I will always prefer the ’63-’65, the second generation is pretty close.
Restoring an old car is kinda like life: If only we knew everything we needed to know before we got started. Sigh.
Looking forward to part two.
Seems like nowadays (or in the recent past) most of the “old school” shops like Hinman’s Evergreen Garage in San Jose have disappeared, especially in expensive high-tech areas like Silicon Valley. There is still a repair shop there but it is under different, younger ownership. Fortunately there are still a few mom and pop repair shops with the knowledge out there but you have to look hard or drive a ways out to find them.
What a sorry tale of woe! Old cars can be pleasure or pain. It seems that your experience was the latter.
Finding 40+ year old cars is not easy. The best ones would have been snapped up as soon as they became collectable, leaving rather rough examples as one’s only choice.
I am sure everyone is waiting for the rest of the story.
I feel your pain.
I hate that, taking something to a machinist and they pronounce it knackered, the head for my Superminx had valves all over the place with height, fixed now and the extra compression ate the bigends, then the block turned out to be cracked, fortunately these cars are still fairly common in the wild and in certain wrecking yards, so its nearly back on the road, any NOS parts I have are fitted now, The joys of buying a faiorly original collector kept car, I know why it was parked for 5 years.
Two for one! I could totally see your thought process around selling the ’71 in the hope of getting the ’66 and a ’63. I also love the style of the ’66 – even that door panel oozes class.
As for the rest, oooouch…
Thanks for the comments, but as the caption for the first photo said, I really did love this car. It was a worse experience than it had to be, perhaps a bit more due diligence on my part could have helped. But that’s why I have an interesting series of stories to share!
As a guy that likes to drive my old cars, I knew that the smart thing would be to buy a newer car and finance it and then hold onto it for a long time. That’s what I did with my family cars. The problem is that I no longer find 99% of new cars to be interesting or appealing. I’m okay with having a late model ho hum car for transportation, but I like to enjoy my hobby cars, and I haven’t lost my shirt… yet.
Down the rabbit hole you did go, been there and done that far too many times my ownself .
I know the paraffin based oil sludge too, if the engine runs well you can ‘drive it clean’ *but* you need to be careful or you’ll ruin the engine easily .
Oh, boy ~ another incompetent Machine Shop ~ this is why I don’t let anyone else touch / do anything to my machines and even then I still have mixed results or get taken .
Depending on where you’re located a nice set of original un machined cylinder heads are closer & cheaper than you think but I’ll wait until I read part 2 .
I like the ’63’s better than these but in matters of taste, everyone else is _wrong_ .
-Nate