A near impossible task is to fill in the gap that JPC leaves behind. Thank you JPC for many months of excellent COALS! I can only try to aim for your level of writing and hope not to disappoint too many readers.
This, my first COAL, is not about a Car Of A Lifetime really, but is a short introduction of myself as a new writer for the coming weeks. When Paul N asked for a COAL writer, I wondered if my experiences would be interesting for the Curbside Classic community knowing I am not American but from the Netherlands. The car culture here is a little different compared to the US, and the cars I lived with and were around me may not be as well known to US readers. Then again, it is refreshing to read about cars out of the ordinary. In the past years as a reader (and sometimes commenter) of Curbside Classic I loved to learn all about the US car history. This diversity is one of the reasons I like Curbside Classic, not to mention many excellent CC writers who go beyond the car thing and tell about their lives and interests.
About 40 years ago I got my drivers license. Since then I have continuously owned cars. It started with very cheap cars, I always hesitate to spend much money on buying cars. Cheap cars meant it was possible to have more than one car and still spend far less per month compared to ordinary people on their monthly lease or whatever financing they need – I have never needed financing.
My main interest is for cars outside the main public interest. I think it is more fun to drive a car that is not seen often. Not popular cars means you get more for the money (no-one wants them) but also more difficult to sell (something I like to forget). For me, interesting cars are of an older generation and usually came from the United Kingdom, or Great Britain. British cars were never much around where I grew up, the Dutch always have been more interested in buying German, French, Italian or Japanese cars. American cars were and are also rare in the Netherlands but they are expensive to run. Not only on fuel but also because they are heavy, and heavy means high rates in our tax system.
Around the age of 13 I discovered a monthly UK classic car magazine: Thoroughbred & Classic Car. Beside being good for my English, it opened up a new world for me. An insight into British classic cars. It was amazing how cheap those old cars were, and so much more interesting compared to current cars! I decided that would be the future for me. Seeing what could be possible I vowed to never own a boring common car. Never an Opel, Volkswagen or Datsun for me! School friends were more interested in the latest Saab Turbo, Golf Gti and of course dream cars like Ferrari, Maserati, Corvette and so on. I was more realistic and reckoned I would not be able to afford such expensive machinery in the near future so took more effort into studying affordable classics. The problem was finding one. In the UK, as evidenced in the magazine, they were everywhere but where we lived there were none.
Dealing with old cars, British cars have some advantages against French, German, Italian or other countries. In the pre-internet days, information was fairly easy to come by, there is always a good supply of handbooks, workshop and parts manuals, written in clear English so easy to understand. For almost all cars you will be able to find a good factory workshop manual. These manuals are excellent with exploded views for the parts and good, down to earth descriptions of work needed. Try finding that in Italian or French manuals, if even available. Many owners were used to do DIY maintenance and a whole cottage industry (often very small) is there in order to keep parts available. There are many specialists. Car makes often used generic parts for electrics (Lucas, insert your old joke here), brake and clutch (Lockheed, Girling) and other items (instruments, locks) which is good for the availability. The cars often have enthusiastic owners & a big following which translates to active owners clubs and internet forums.
Of course not all British cars are interesting, at least not for me. I am not a Ford lover, Vauxhall (GM) also keeps me cold. Cars made after the mid seventies usually got boring – of course there are exceptions. Up to the mid seventies UK cars had good styling, practical sizes, a touch of class and individualism. It seems it was easier in those days to experiment more and do things differently: use of fluid suspension (BMC), overhead camshaft engines (Jaguar, Hillman Imp), old fashioned styling (Armstrong Siddeley), advanced styling (E-type), re-introduction of a separate chassis (Herald). It looked like anything was possible. Very interesting times unlike today it seems, at least in my view.
Production quality became the Achilles heel of British cars, this has lots to do with union strikes, wrong management decisions, not enough testing beforehand, etc etc. I am not going deep into that because it is a never ending discussion.
We are lucky that the Brits did produce some fantastic cars, most of which can be used without much problems still today. Spare parts availability is often very good and not eye watering expensive compared to car makes of other countries. In the pre-internet days, this was a huge advantage.
From my 16th year onward, I worked Saturdays at a local Volvo specialist garage. Here I learned much about cars and its construction, tools and even earned a little money. Later I could work on my own cars using all the equipment the garage had. This was excellent because my father did not really own tools. There was a hammer, a pair of pliers and a couple of screwdrivers, but that was about it. I cannot remember him ever doing repairs, fixing a light or even hanging up a picture. If anything was needed around the house he would call in the help of a neighbor. Bikes, cars, these technical things were left to experts.
The Saturday garage was my where I learned everything mechanically about cars. All kinds of tools, the flange tool to make copper brake lines, replace shock absorbers, exhausts, finding out how the electrics work on a car, dismantling engines etc etc.
Tom the garage owner allowed me to drive all kinds of cars. I was welcome to borrow an old trade in such as an old Saab 96, the 2CV van, an old ratty Beetle (did not like that, too much noise, expensive on fuel) and of course various Volvo 144, 142, Amazon. Every Saturday the first and last thing to do at the garage was to drive out the cars onto the forecourt, and back inside at the end of the day. Most cars were Volvos, plus the more common cars (Opel, VW, Datsun, Toyota, etc). I loved moving the 12 cylinder Jaguar XJ, what a car! A big impression was made when we (Tom and me) were to pick up a Volvo from somewhere, taking the Range Rover and a trailer. I loved driving the Range Rover. High on the road, it leaned a bit in the corners, pretty fast, you felt like a king on the road. I promised myself I would own one someday (see later COAL…).
Those years (early / mid 80s), old cars were just old cars. Cars usually did not reach a 10th year because they were too rusted before that. At the Volvo specialist, seeing a car older than 12 years was rare. I remember a local Volvo Amazon, in for some brake work, which dated from 1962, so around 20 years old which was exceptional. My first “classic” car was just 13 years old at the time, this was seen as a very old car. Classic cars just did not exist, at least not visible on the street.
This gradually changed during the late eighties. More classic car clubs appeared, club magazines became more attractive with sharper pictures (using copy machines instead of stenciling). Being a club member was useful, knowledge about makes, types and spare parts was easily found. Remember the pre-internet years?
From 1982 until 1997 I only had classic cars, not wanting to pour money into depreciation-prone modern cars. The commuting distances were not too long, less than half an hour. My cars were parked on the street so I always had to monitor the rust would not become too severe. I did all the maintenance myself, the number of tools I own grew steadily during this period. Yearly trips were taken to a large swap meet in the UK (Beaulieu) where I would search for spare parts (list in hand showing the parts numbers).
When I started working for an IT company I was seconded to other companies. The commuting distances grew longer – sometimes very long. I had to select a brand new company lease car. A few years later I was working for another company and had to commute 200 kms (130 miles) total per day. Experiencing lots of traffic jams, I bought a 5 year old automatic. Since then, a “modern” always has been part of the household. My current “modern” is 19 years old but I have no reason yet to look out for a newer car. It has all the things I expect in a modern car – except maybe the fuel consumption.
In the coming weeks, each COAL I will try to explain why I wanted that type of car, what was the attraction, what were my experiences and adventures with it. Next week I start off with a 10 year old car I bought when I just got my drivers license in 1982. It was very cheap because it was stolen / recovered (without its keys).
Looking forward to your write ups Dion. British cars, from Leyland sold well in Europe . Yes those work shop and parts manuals help keeping those gems still on the road and marque clubs gave advice. So much easier now with the internet and 3D printing. Bet you were a good customer of Rimmers of Lincoln for parts.
Indeed, Rimmers have been a good source for parts in the last years. Excellent website with clear exploded views of the parts. Fast service too, they used to send within 3 or 4 days. But that was before Brexit, I tend to not order from the UK anymore because of the handling and importing fees. I bet the Brexit has a very big impact on these parts shops. Everyone I speak has either stopped ordering or do far less orders from UK suppliers.
Brexit must have hurt Rimmers and EBay. UK. Autodoc is a good source of modern car parts and their is specialist marque suppliers in most European countries . Land Rover parts, no problem.
I’m still buying vehicular stuff on ebay UK……
-Nate
But then for you as USA citizens nothing has changed. In Europe the import procedure has changed. When the UK was part of the EU, it was easy and cheap to buy from the UK. Now it has gone to more expensive and taking longer.
Can’t wait!
You make a good point about ‘old cars’ in 1980. Rust was almost a marketing tool, ensuring you’d need a replacement within a decade and it wasn’t unusual for a five year old car to look scabby round the edges. When I started my first job after university in 1980 I remember regularly seeing a ‘Jubilee’ Minx (1957-8 Audax model) on my commute and thinking how unusual it was to see anything that old. By then even late ’60s cars were thinning out. Now a 15 year old car is nothing exceptional.
Fifteen year old cars nowadays can look as if they are two year old. Amazing.
Impressive collection, I’m sure you have a lot to tell about them. I predict a long running COAL series!
You reminded me of my early teenage years where I would often walk around Amsterdam looking for old interesting cars which was very easy and when I came home it wasn’t uncommon for me to have taken photos of 20 cars a day. MGBs, Citroen DS, Volvo Amazons and 60’s – 80’s American cars were easy to find until the late 2010s. Most of them were rusty, only the DS’s were usually in good condition.
That’s all over now sadly, time has changed.
Only a lonely rusty 1960 Sunbeam Rapier nearby remains, I wonder how long it will stay.
This one?
https://www.2dehands.be/v/auto-s/oldtimers/m1768178429-sunbeam-rapier-1960
It has been on sale for a very long time. Seems no-one is interested in proper old Rootes cars anymore.
It is, I’d like to have it but I have too many cars and projects already. I have a Firebird and dune buggy in need of some paint work so I have little time for it either sadly.
Yes, I know the feeling! Sometimes you have to restrain yourselves. But it is hard to see an original Dutch registered Sunbeam Rapier not finding a new caring owner.
By my count, it looks like you have 47 cars to write up. This is going to be fun, and definitely something to look forward to on Sunday mornings.
It is a lot! But not all were close to my hart and do not deserve a COAL
Welcome to the mines, Dion. You are off to a fine start, and I think you will find the next several months to be very rewarding. I always get excited with the prospect of a new COAL series, but this one promises to be more interesting than most.
Since you have so many interesting cars that we will likely never see again, I have one request: Please make sure to give each car its due (e.g. try to avoid multi-car COAL posts). I’m sure the readers would like to breathe them in one at a time, like a fine wine.
Thank you Tom. I have been reading the site for years now and always loved the COAL series. Never realized I could do something myself.
Gathering and ordening pictures has been interesting, I saw pictures (the printed versions) I had not seen in decades. There will be a few multi-car COALs, mainly for cars that are of the same type or for which I have not much experience.
Welcome Dion. i get the feeling I am about to learn a lot more about obscure and aging non-USA vehicle makes and models through your COAL series.
I spent a few months working as a consultant for KLM in Amstelveen. Most of my commuting to work from Amsterdam hotels was via trams or modern car rentals, but I think I saw more 2CVs and Dianes in the KLM employee parking lot than any other type of vehicle.
When I returned to the USA, American cars seemed unnecessarily large, heavy, inefficient, and poorly suspended. Sadly, after a short time back home, the logically space efficient and fun driving cars of the Netherlands faded from my memory.
Ironically, nicely restored 2CVs are currently going for rather hefty amounts of money on some domestic USA auto auction sites.
Your COALs will pick up Dutch auto stories for me about 10 years after I was there. I look forward to this first hand update about your beautiful country and all the oddball vehicles you have encountered.
Thank you RL.
As you say, 2CVs and Dyanes were sold very well in the Netherlands in the 60s and 70s. I have something to say about them in a future COAL so stay tuned!
Well, as a (Canadian) Dutch guy myself and a former TR4 owner I am looking forward to this series!
Ah, another TR4 owner! Why did you sell yours?
Many cars have been bought and sold but my TR4 will always stay. Will be explained in a couple of weeks time!
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cars-of-a-lifetime/coal-1962-triumph-tr4-know-when-to-hold-em/
Ah, the whole sad story is told here
Aw, that hurts. So sorry you never could experience a driving TR4. Whenever you’re in the Netherlands you are welcome for a ride in my car.
I already like a lot of your choices, Dion – there’s even a Corvair wagon in there!
Thanks Aaron!
As an (Hillman) Imp enthusiast the Corvair always had my attention and when one was for sale locally at a ridiculous low price I could not let it go. Being a Wagon was even more interesting. More on that later 🙂
I am really looking forward to this series, Dion! Quality along with quantity and including some of my favorite cars….
Thanks Huey! Do not hesitate to put your comments here, always interesting to read others thoughts about cars.
Thanks for the props! From this start I have no doubt that this will be a great series. I love the teasers for coming attractions, and see quite a few things there that I am interested in now. I suspect that I will become interested in the rest as you write about them.
I feel a kindred spirit here, with another guy who enjoys the thrill of finding old/interesting things more fun than new stuff. I will confess that I never put it as concisely as you do, but I love your description – when you buy cheap old cars you get to have more cars!
Thanks JPC. Your kind of writing, amongst others, have inspired me to start my own series. Inserting personal stuff makes it just so much more interesting for a reader. As always looking forward to your next post.
Ah, excellent, this promises to be a fun and exciting ride! I’m looking forward to this one and am confident you can give everything its due. Your montages are like scrolling down the thumbnail side bar at BringATrailer…So much goodness to see!
Thanks Jim. I hope not to disappoint you. BAT has been a welcome new type of car purchasing method. There is much to like – the amount of pictures on any car is amazing, as is the possibility to publicly ask questions to the seller (and getting back answers).
Dion, welcome aboard. This looks like it will be a fun series to read.
You are correct. If done correctly, one can have lots of old cars for not much investment. It the “done correctly” part that can be the challenge. 🙂
Hi Jason, that indeed is the problem. I have always tried not to buy a car just because it is cheap. There needs to be more to it.
Dion, I’m all buckled up for a long and undoubtedly fascinating ride with you. Thanks for taking it on!
Hi Paul, think it may be a long ride indeed. So far I loved to stir up my memories. Feels good to be a writer of this excellent site.
WELCOME DION .
I look forward to reading your thoughts and experiences .
I too like Corvair Lakewood station wagons, I foolishly didn’t buy the less than ten year old one for $150 when it failed to start one morning, turned out to be a battery clamp all corroded .
I think you’r non U.S.A. viewpoint is going to be well liked .
-Nate
Thanks Nate! I liked that Lakewood but it got to me at a wrong moment so I had to sell it far too soon. I got spooked a little when I found out my car had a broken windscreen and these are unique to the wagons – meaning probably I had to import one from the States.
I have a similar history here in the states. I’ve had 49 Triumphs (everything from TR2-8, Stage, all versions of GT6 and Spitfire, a Herald, am looking for a LHD Vitesse currently), 2 E Types, an XK140, XJ6, MGA Twin Cam Coupe, MGA roadster, Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint, Maserati 3500 GT Sebring Coupe, Daimler SP250, some MGBs, BGTs, and Healeys. I just tended to go buy one and came home with several. I still drive my 73 Triumph GT6 10-15k miles year, and love to see other like minded folks writing. Looking forward to your posts.
That’s a proper car guy!
I once just missed out on a Daimler Dart, would have liked that I think. My GT6+ is stored aside and in the queue to get back on the road. Probably next year I think.
Looking forward to this. You have owned some amazing rides. I, as well, tend to gravitate to cars I find interesting. Ones that are usually outside the mainstream.
Thanks David, I have always read your posts with interest. “Outside The Mainstream” would be a good name for an internet site and which I would join immediately!
This will be an intriguing and hopefully long ride! Many unusual suspects I know nothing about. I’ll sit around and watch De Dion tube. Welcome/welkom!
Hi Johannes, I know you are more into trucks but have a feeling you will recognize many Dutch related stuff. Loved your Mopar car – was sorry you sold it.
I’ve owned it for 10 years and that was good. Maybe I was just getting too old for all that loudness when rolling down the road @ 70-90 km/h, let alone faster. It was time for something smoother and quieter.
This looks like being a fascinating COAL series, I still have an old British car its unusual here now and estates this model never were common but old British Australian and American cars are what we drove as every day cars when I first got a licence some were just junk even new some were really good tough reliable cars which is the brand I gravitated back to now but I drive a diesel Citroen as an everyday car.
By the way none of the cars in those pics are unfamiliar and I still have an owners manual for one of them
Hi Kiwibryce – hope all is good with your Hillman Minx? Nice to see these were / are still appreciated in Australia. You are right saying these are tough old cars. Regarding quality, an old friend claimed Rootes cars were just a notch up to comparable BMC cars and I tend to agree.
The yellow three-wheeled car reminds me of one similar in a Mr. Bean episode or two.
Looking forward to coming along with you on an interesting survey of vehicles!
Indeed, a Reliant. If you have a motorcycle drivers license, this was the only car you were allowed to drive. My fascination for them is that were made by an independent car company which even made their own engines.
It looks like a Reliant Regal Supervan with rear windows, the most famous example is the one from Only Fools and Horses
Count me as another who is interested to hear more about these, ususual to me, cars from someone who has actually owned them for better or worse…
Hope you will not be disappointed!
Indeed, I’m looking forward to this series. I love learning about makes and models I’ve only seen in pictures. Welcome Dion!
Thanks idiotking!
Welcome Dion! Really looking forward to your series which promises to be epic based on the teaser.
Not sure it will be epic but I will try to write some sense out of the adventures.
Really looking forward to this COAL. Growing up in Victoria, Canada which claims to be more British than Britain I was exposed to a lot of UK cars, and looking at your teasers this is going to be a great series.
It occurred to me that Canada has plenty of old British car for sale. Even more interesting is that they use kilometer speedos instead of the American miles speedo. But this seems not the case for all? Do you know when this change was made from mph to kmh?
I can tell this going to be fun!
Canada went from MPH to KPH on the 1977 Labour Day weekend, in September. After that all cars sold in Canada had to have metric speedometers and odometers. Overall it was a gradual change to metric; when I started in my forestry program in 1982 we were the first class to be taught only in metric. No cunits, chains or acres for us.
My gosh, we are in for a wide-ranging history of (mostly) European car models! I like the preview photos, and grouped together in packs is smart. I can tell we are in for a treat.
Welcome to CC! I’m favorably anticipating your stories.
Hope you will enjoy the COALs!
Welcome, it’s always interesting to see what people in other countries drive.
Exactly. One of the aspects I enjoy with Curbside Classic.
We have a treat in store! Roll on Saturday!
Thanks Roger! I always enjoy reading your posts.
Hmmm
Love your choices of Triumph’s, Jensen’s and Lotus. Also some of the Jaguar’s.
Is that a Daimler Sovereign or a Jaguar 420 ?
The Rover SD1. No grill like its Mercedes-Benz C Class rival, nor a Saloon, like British Managers wanted.
No wonder so many chose to have the Ford Granada Mk2’s. Later BMW 5 Series as well as the C Class.
Hi Steven – that is a Jaguar 420.
There are lots of successful cars without grilles – Tesla S comes to mind. Maybe the SD1 was too early for British Managers.
Jeetje Dion, wat een verhaal.
More to come Guus!
Dion, as an American I think your COAL series will be all the more interesting for showing a different perspective. I felt the same way about SajivW’s COALs, set in Sri Lanka.
“I think it is more fun to drive a car that is not seen often.” In the United States we have an expression for this: I don’t want to meet myself coming down the road. That was definitely a factor for me in my first 40 years of car ownership, starting with a 1968 Saab 95 V4. In the last ten years I’ve given in to practical considerations and owned more prosaic cars.
At first I thought you’d owned a Panhard 24CT, and then I realized I was confusing you with Rammstein, who’s also Dutch.
I assume you’re aware of the British magazine Practical Classics?
Based on the photos you seem to have a fondness for these cars in particular:
Citroën Cx
Hillman Imp and its derivatives
Triumph 2000/2500 sedan
I’m looking forward to many enjoyable hours of reading. I’m sure you won’t disappoint us!
Have been a subscriber to Practical Classic for many years, late 80s early 90s. Then there comes a time they start writing the same articles over and over again (This Months Special: the MGB!) and you know it is time to try something else.
You are correct in the assumption that I have a fondness for some particular cars!