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Curbside Commentary: “Real Car Guys” vs “Tourists.”

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In reality, there is really no conflict between “Real Car Guys” and “Tourists”.

One of my favorite blog sites has been “My Jaguar Experience”, which presented a dichotomy of this nature. The story was the experience of trying to daily drive a Series Three Jaguar XJ6. It covered the never-ending series of little problems that resulted in a major breakdown that ended the ownership experience in an unhappy end.

The author placed a lot of blame on himself, which I felt was pretty unfair and unnecessary. He was not a hands-on enthusiast and was not the kind of person who would diagnose a problem and perform the repair himself. He had never made any claims to the contrary.

He broke down the enthusiast community into two camps. The “Real Car Guys” and the “Tourists.”

The real car guy’s motto is: “We can do it!”

That’s the attitude! Image from the web.

 

The real car guys are those that have quite a bite of mechanical knowledge and experience, and will perform much of their cars needed maintenance and repairs. They also possess the necessary tools and equipment. The real guys also have the proper attitude, which is something like the following: “Any older mechanical device will eventually wear and need repair. This is no big thing. Identify the problem, secure the needed parts, and just fix it. When there are no apparent problems, just keep your eye on probable avenues of future repair.”

When a problem exceeds their level of skill or ability, then they just might perform part of the repair. Remove the transmission and take just that, to a repair specialist, for example. This alone will result in substantial savings.

“If you’re going to be a tourist, be a rich one!” Thurston Howell III image from web.

 

Tourists, on the other hand, are just visiting the territory you might say. They might mingle with the natives, assume some mannerisms in speech and dress. You would never mistake them for the real thing. So in the automotive hobby, they might even be described as “posers.”

They might have an actual interest or even a preference for vintage or classic cars. They can be quite knowledgeable and well-versed in the enthusiast lingo. Usually, they are not “hands-on” guys. They usually lack the skills or aptitude to turn wrenches on their own machines. Often they will say that they are “all thumbs” or “mechanically challenged” or use some other self-deprecating phrase.

I propose that what most of them lack is the real need to work on their own stuff. The tourist usually has more resources available than the grassroots gearhead. They can easily afford to pay for a shop to handle their repair work, or they choose to save up and budget funds for the inevitable repairs.

If they are not really affluent then they might have to restrict their hobby to a single vintage car. It becomes the focus of their carefully planned expenditures.

On the other hand, if they are really affluent, then they just buy the best example out there. Low mileage, well-preserved, or restored vehicles. They are the ones that pay top dollar for the best cars.

“…the gearhead will often brag about how much work they are putting into their cars.”

 

Compare that to the typical “real car guy,” sometimes referred to as the  “gearhead.” He often acquires a stable of worn and broken down cars with the hope of someday fixing them up. He will often pile way too much on his plate. Oftentimes this gearhead is of the bucks down variety. As a consequence of this, many, if not most, of his projects will never see completion. He might keep several vehicles in service as runners or daily drivers. While a rich guy can boast about how much his project is costing him, the gearhead will often brag about how much work they are putting into their cars.

The low-bucks gearhead knows that the only way that he can own and enjoy “interesting” cars is to buy them in a “challenged” state. The kind that are advertised as projects that need a lot of TLC. As if love alone could ever fix up anything mechanical!

Having a stable of project vehicles reduces the amount of cash available to spend on any specific car. This will make anyone, even someone of average means, behave somewhat like a bucks-down guy. This provides plenty of incentive to do it yourself.

The fact that a “tourist” occasionally finds himself over his head in a certain car does not mean that he is a poser. Unless you are like old Thurston Howell III, where cost is never a consideration, everyone runs into their financial limits. People in both camps have run into that situation.

Most “normal” people have no real interest in buying, maintaining, using, or preserving a vintage car. They may murmur about some car from their high school days. Or wax nostalgic about their buddy’s ’57 Chevy or ’65 Mustang when they see one on the street. But their reality is about having a vehicle that takes all the risk and pain out of daily transportation. Who can blame them? We all have lives to lead. A brand new car, or at least the newest that they can afford, makes the most sense.

The old car enthusiast is an entirely different animal. For some reason, not only does he have an interest in vintage cars, he even wants to own one! Even worse, he actually wants to drive it, sometimes every day! Most older car cars are cheaper than a new model. Most of us low buck enthusiasts depend on massive depreciation to bring desirable cars down to our financial level.

So is there really a conflict (chasm?) between the “tourist” and the “real car guy”? I don’t think so. For one thing, there is actually quite a bit of crossover that takes place between the camps. Many car guys cross over into the tourist camp when conditions change or improve. Old age, physical limitations, and more disposable cash combine to limit the car guys’ direct involvement in the day-to-day wrench turning.

On the other hand, many tourists become quite familiar with their cars and will start to stick a hand under the hood once in a while. Even if they don’t start tearing down their motors, they can become adept at minor repairs; like tune ups, and changing belts and hoses. Little things like changing bulbs and chasing down minor electrical gremlins can make it easier to keep an older car on the road.

Besides, many tourists actually provide the paycheck for a lot of real car guys. A lot of real car guys are in the business of providing services to the tourists. Like the artist/patron relationship, some of the best and most creative builders and restorers rely on that blank check provided by the wealthy patron. It keeps them in business.

So what do I mean when I use the word “poser?”

I used to wear a gold chain, but it was much thinner. image from the web.

 

Or as they are sometimes referred to as, “gold chainers.” A much harsher term of judgment.

I don’t mean the guy who just recently developed an interest in older cars. Lots of guys couldn’t afford the money or time for a hobby car when they were in the middle of career and family responsibilities. It had been an interest that they had only been able to indulge as they got older.

And it’s not just because the owner is affluent, and can afford to have the work done properly by a shop. Or they can buy those best examples. I think that every enthusiast would choose to buy the best if they could afford it.

I would only refer to a person as a poser if they claimed that they performed the work on a car as something that they did, when they didn’t. Or if they didn’t bother to learn anything about the car that they had built for them.

The other case is when the focus of the car is not on the car itself but on the amount of money spent on it. And they make a point of constantly mentioning the cost of things in an obvious attempt to impress the onlooker.

Like many things in life, it’s not an either/or proposition. The tourist and the real car guy, and even the poser, are all in the same camp. They are all interested in vintage cars, as opposed to the greater car-consuming culture. They are like two ends of a continuum or just facets of the same gemstone. We have much more in common than the differences that separate us.

I think that wherever we currently fall on the continuum, we all got involved with old cars just to have a little fun. As long as the hobby is still primarily fun, we should just enjoy it, and cut our fellow enthusiasts, as well as ourselves, quite a bit of slack.

 

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Vintage Review: 1965 Buick Riviera GS – The Ultimate Riviera; In Looks And Performance

 

Yes, I know it’s an endless point of debate, but let’s face it, the original (1963-1965) Riviera is the greatest of them all. It was an absolute styling sensation when it arrived, arguably the best-styled American car not just of the sixties but even the whole post-war era. And it wasn’t just a pretty face; its performance was outstanding, and not just in a straight line. The Riviera was a world class gran turismo.

In 1965, Buick upped the ante with the Riviera Gran Sport. Standard equipment was the ultimate 360 hp dual-quad “nailhead” 425 Super Wildcat V8, a reduced backpressure oversize dual exhaust system, a 3.42:1 Positraction rear axle and a few other goodies. CARS magazine wrung one out and was duly impressed.

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Vintage 48,000 Mile Test: 1976 VW Rabbit – How VW Handed Over The US Import Market to the Japanese

(first posted 11/10/2018)        Here’s the final installment of Road and Track’s long term test of a first year 1975 Rabbit. The plan was to test it only to 24,000 miles, but since the car required extensive upgrading to 1976 specs (by VW) and then suffered a major failure (broken crankshaft) along with numerous more minor maladies, the test was taken all the way to 48,000 miles.

And it shows just why VW lost its grip on the US market to the Japanese.

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Car Show Classic: 1972 AMC Javelin Pierre Cardin – No, Really…

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(first posted 7/31/2014)           We here at CC simply don’t do things part way.  Maybe we have all been schooled by the Teutonic discipline of our founder, but we just can’t stand to see a job left unfinished.  Which is why we have been in such anguish on the topic of AMC’s designer cars from the 1970s.  After we brought you a 1974 Oleg Cassini Matador and then a 1972 Gucci Sportabout, we have been wringing our collective hands over the incomplete status of our collection of these most fashionable Kenoshans.  Of course, we have Curbside Correspondents in SoCal, the PNW and other areas of old-car spotting heaven who continually delight us with their rare finds.  But when the chips are down and heavy lifting is required, it’s just time to come to the Midwest, that’s all.  Which is where we found the car that completes our set: the 1972 Pierre Cardin Javelin.

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Curbside Classic: 1987 Cadillac Allante – Apple Pie In An Italian Suit

(first posted 6/9/2018)          Everyone has different theories.  My theory is the creation of the Allante goes something like this….

…One day back in the early to mid-1980’s, Somebody in Charge at Cadillac awoke with a hangover.  Too much rum and dancing with foxy brunettes while dancing to Donna Summer can have bad consequences. Read the rest of this entry »

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Vintage Ad: Continental Kit With Trailer Hitch For Bugeye Sprite – “Want To Haul A Trailer?”

I stumbled into this ad from 1961 and just had to share it with you. The continental spare mount is bad enough ($29.95), but it’s also available with a trailer hitch ($39.95) so that your 42.5 hp 948 cc powered Sprite can haul your boat or Airstream. I’d love to see it pulling the boat up the typical steep boat ramp. Do I smell a smoked clutch?

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Curbside Musings: Bringing Color Back – There’s Actually A Lot Out There, Curbside and Otherwise

Doesn’t that lovely line of Volvo 140 butts make you want to say “Man, I remember when cars came in so many different colors!”? That’s been my comment on that scene ever since I took the photo earlier this fall. I mean, look at that! Two kinds of blue, two kinds of yellow (is Butterscotch yellow?), and a deep green. Those were the days, eh?

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Junkyard Classic: 1987 Nissan Stanza – Mini Maxima

Nissan’s former reputation for sportiness, dating back to its days peddling Datsuns, is all but gone today. The Maxima died in 2023, but the manufacturer still maintains a well-rounded lineup of sedans with the Versa, Sentra, and Altima, albeit with most traces of sportiness removed.

Now the top dog by default, the current Altima took over from the Stanza as Nissan’s mid-sized model back in 1993. If the state of 5-year-old Altimas around me is any indication, this segment of cars tends to get ridden hard and put away wet by many of its owners. Without the reputation or resale value of, say a Toyota or Honda, to stave off repair bills equaling the value of the car, a mainstream Nissan sedan showing up in a junkyard in such excellent condition 37 years after it rolled off the assembly line is genuinely remarkable.

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Curbside Find: 1990-1991 Chrysler New Yorker Fifth Avenue – Playing To The Established Crowd

Photos from the Cohort by Slant Six.

In recent years, I’ve developed a habit of checking on old rock bands to see what they’re up to, especially those I never cared much for and yet were awfully popular. This often occurs after listening to playlists with my wife.

Hey… what happened to those guys? 

And more often than not, I’m always surprised when they’re still around. Not only touring but with a bunch of releases I never heard of. Not that I’m gonna check out their new tracks (or old ones), but I always find it nice to see how there’s a space in this world obsessed with newness for an old act playing to an established crowd.

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Vintage Snapshots: Two Dockside Classics With Mopar Photobombers

(first posted 11/13/2018)           I’ve been perusing another trove of vintage snapshots, and these two, presumably shot on the same day, rather grabbed me. It took me a couple of minutes to identify this splendid superliner, as initially I thought it was the Queen Elizabeth. It’s the SS France, which was launched in 1961, and was the pride of its country. But like all of these liners, it fell on hard times and she was laid up in 1974, and sold Norwegian Cruise Lines, and renamed the Norway. After a long career as a cruise ship, she was sold and resold, with the designs for either refitting or scrapping, but the liner was laid up eventually over environmental concerns. She was finally scrapped in 2008.

And how long did this 1960 Plymouth survive?

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Curbside Classic: 1968 Ford Fairlane GT – The Unexpected Wallflower

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(first posted 3/23/2013)     Ford may have been first to the intermediate dance (among the Big Three, anyway), but GM came fashionably late and better dressed. Styling, they say, sells cars, and GM’s mouthwateringly crisp, taut lines across its new 1964 A-body line suddenly made Ford’s fast-selling Fairlane look frumpy. Annual freshenings of the 1962 body did no good, and a 1966 restyle helped only a little. So Ford tried again for 1968, presenting this fresh, clean result.

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Obscure Rebadges From Around The World: Part 5

(first posted 11/13/2018)          It’s been a little while since I did one of these. Click the links for Parts One, Two, Three, and Four.

Obscure rebadges can result from many different scenarios. Sometimes an automaker needs to fill a hole in their line-up and they don’t have a suitable in-house product. Sometimes a rebadge is the result of a misguided joint venture. Other times, corporate acquisitions give automakers access to product that’s worth keeping around. Today, let’s look at four examples of how these scenarios led to obscure rebadges. Read the rest of this entry »

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Vintage Dealers: Pontiac Dealers 1950s-1960s

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Curbside Clueless Outtake: Get A Load Of That Road Hog

Whether it’s obscure ancient European racers or one of the myriad JDM sub-models I’ve never seen or heard of before in my life, CC hunting in Tokyo never fails to surprise and, occasionally, delight. Piggy-in-the-middle here, however, has me well and truly stumped.

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CC In Scale: A Gallery Of Japanese Car Models

One of my favourite regular CC posts is Tatra-san’s random monthly sightings where he shows us vehicles many of us have never heard of. With that in mind, let’s turn to some Japanese oddities, such as cars you may not be familiar with. No Skylines this time; even if they are my favourites, they’ve had their day. As always, there are more out there; these are just the ones that have taken my fancy.

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