If you’ve made it this far in my COAL series, you’ve made it through six months of posts covering 20+ cars and two motorcycles. And yet, there were many more cars that weren’t worthy of a full 800 words, and kind of fell between the cracks. So here, in the interest of “no car left behind,” I will give proper treatment to these cars.
2001 Nissan Altima GLE
Remember that horrible 1998 Plymouth Neon I inherited with my wife Kristen? What exactly happened to it, anyways? Regular readers could be excused for thinking I replaced her Neon with her 2003 Honda Accord that was in the next COAL, but there was actually a car between these two: A 2001 Nissan Altima GLE that I traded in the Neon on.
Oh, and remember how I take photos of pretty much every car I see? The Altima somehow managed to escape my lens, despite spending two years with me. This was well into the digital photography era, so it’s not like was being stingy with the film. So this will be the rare car where I have to use representative images.
I honestly don’t know why we picked a Nissan. My previous experience with my 96 Maxima was adequate, but not endearing. We may have seen an ad for a really cheap lease deal: I don’t really remember.
This car was not sophisticated or fast, but as a second car it didn’t really need to be. The GLE was the only version of the Altima available with leather seats. It was a pretty rare option, and it made the interior look a lot fancier than the standard mouse fur interior.
Our Altima was comfortable and quiet, and generally not a bad car. A decade and a half on, I still have relatives that go on about how comfortable the seats were in that car.
2012 Lexus RX 350
After our insanely awesome 2009 Acura MDX, we decided that for our next vehicle that we no longer needed a three-row crossover, and would rather have something a bit smaller and easier to handle and park. Truth be told, neither Kristen nor myself are big car people – we’ve always preferred small cars. The only reason we got the earlier large crossover SUVs was out of necessity of having two children and all the associated stuff.
Yes, I can already sense the obligatory comments about how your family of six got by with just a VW Beetle when you were growing up. Sorry, but I’m not that kind of person.
The RX is eminently popular with soccer Moms everywhere, but to me the car had some significant flaws. For starters, the interior, while nice, was nowhere up to the standards of a luxury car. If you enlarge the picture above, you can see that there are mismatched plastic textures and hard plastics all over the place. For a luxury car, Lexus was surprisingly stingy with the amount of wood trim on the dash (none). It also had one of the worst infotainment systems I’ve ever used (OK, second-worst: Mercedes Benz COMMAND is the worst). The system was slow and sluggish, and the mouse control is no substitute for a proper touch screen.
The HID headlights were also among the worst I had ever experienced: They were essentially two flashlights on the front of the car. My wife complained about poor visibility at night: I had to leave the driving lights on all the time just to have enough illumination. The wood-rimmed steering wheel looked and felt nice, but it was slippery and unheated, which in the winter made it very cold.
Speaking of winter, a decent heater is something you pretty much take for granted on any modern car. However, the heater on the RX was reminiscent of what one might experience on a Volkswagen Beetle – basically equivalent to someone exhaling on your feet. It took forever for the engine to warm up, and even when it did, the amount of heat coming out of the ducts was tepid, at best. The heater in my IS 250 was similarly flawed, so maybe it is a Toyota/Lexus thing.
For a car aimed at women, there was surprisingly little storage space. There was no sunglasses holder in the overhead console, a feature that is pretty much ubiquitous. The compartment under the armrest was tiny, and the shifter occupied all the space in the center console, leaving no space for any cubbies. But the biggest sin is that massive center console had no openings underneath for a woman to place their purse.
This car was Kristen’s choice: since she was the primary driver, I let her pick out the car. To me, it seems that Lexus is trading a little too hard on their brand name and image, and not enough on the product itself. You can do this only for so long before people wise up (just ask Cadillac, Lincoln, Chrysler, and other luxury brands that have fallen from glory).
2015 Lincoln MKC
Eagle-eyed commenters have already spotted this car in my 2002 Audi TT COAL (man, I can’t put anything past you guys). As our kids continue to get older and ride with us less (eventually driving their own cars), we continued to downsize our “family” vehicle. We decided to move from the mid-sized Lexus RX 350 to a compact SUV. While there are many great options in this space (including the Lexus NX), but with the Ford X-Plan pricing I had available to me at Cardinal Health, the price on the MKC was hard to beat.
The MKC, along with the 2014 MKZ and the 1970 Mark III allowed to briefly complete the Lincoln hat trick: Having a Lincoln in each of my three garages, as pictured in the hero shot at the top of the article. However, like a solar eclipse, this confluence of vehicles would be short-lived.
The MKC was for the most part the upgrade from the RX 350 that I hoped it would be: Ample storage space, despite the smaller dimensions. This is in part due to the replacement of the shifter with a pushbutton transmission, which freed up a surprising amount of center console space. The MKC also sports a heater that works, and excellent lighting (inside and out). The color-changing LED ambient lighting inside is a particularly neat trick.
Unfortunately, the MKC is an example of an otherwise great car brought down by a single critical flaw. In this case, that flaw is a punishing ride with poorly controlled lateral motions. Any uneven surface sends the car (and the occupants’ heads) rolling to the left and right. The MKC comes with the Lincoln Ride Control, with three settings: Comfort, Normal, and Sport. Switching the setting only seems to alter the dampening, while doing nothing about the punishingly firm spring rates. Comfort has the least amount of damping, which makes the head bobbing rolling effect worse. Sport mode has the most damping, reduces (but not eliminates) the jarring lateral motions. Since it doesn’t seem to otherwise negatively affect ride quality, we leave the ride control set to “Sport” all the time.
The basic principles of automotive suspension have been understood for over a century. Yet it still blows my mind that so many modern cars have poor ride, handling, or both. To me, this is basic block-and-tackle execution, kind of like a proper heater. I am surprised at how many carmakers continue to get the basics wrong.
Related Reading
Curbside Classic: 1999 Nissan Altima – Call It A Product Of The Lost Decade – Brendan Saur
Curbside Classic: 2000 Lexus RX 300; The First True CUV – There, My Son, Is The Future Of The Car – PN
My vote for the best of these three (with no complaints) is the Nissan Altima. But then I own one, so I’m biased.
Happy Motoring, Mark
Love the lead photo, even if I am more of a Cadillac man.
I’m both surprised and unsurprised about the RX’s interior. The GS I rented last year had some dated switchgear and a little bit of hard plastic too, even if the interior was otherwise a class act. What surprises me even more is the lack of a sunglass holder in an RX. Really?!
I do like how honest the RX is though. It doesn’t purport to be a sporty crossover and, from all the accounts I’ve read, it couldn’t be further from one if it tried. For a lot of people, that’s perfectly fine. But I’d take an Infiniti FX/QX70 any day.
A shame to hear about the MKC. That is extremely disappointing. It’s like what i’ve read about the MKS, particularly in Ecoboost trim. I wonder what the new MKX is like to drive? I really like the look of those.
Our Sienna – roughly the same vintage as your RX – has the same ventilation issues. Poor airflow unless the fan is on “jet turbine” setting, etc. Later model Toyotas I’ve rented seem better, so I wonder if the company somehow used substandard ducting for a few model years, or misestimated the interior volume of their vans and SUVs. An annoying flaw, to be sure.
I’m not too surprised about the fact you have no pictures of your Altima as the 2nd generation looks like a bit of a styling dud after the 1st generation….but boy, that interior looks nice for a late 90s car.
Speaking of interiors, I’m not surprised about your negative feelings about the Lexus. My sister is about to trade her 2nd Prius for her 3rd. I rode in it and was surprised by the very hard plastics of the interior. A few parts felt and looked like metal, but not in a good/pleasant way. I also don’t care for the styling (overly styled?) design of the interior.
I am surprised about the ride of the MKC. It sounds as though Lincoln is so desperate to shake-off their reputation for “pillow-soft” rides that they have gone too far in the other direction….so to speak. Or maybe they are overdoing the handling side of the ride equation to compete with Cadillac and the German car manufacturers?
I think I should not be surprised by the lousy heater in a Toyota product. My Pontiac Vibe, based on the Toyota Corolla platform fits your description of the RX’s heater perfectly.
….and the excellent HVAC system in our 2010 Ford Focus shows how it’s done right.
I think the heat in my HIghlander is great but the AC is a bit weak and always has been that way. Although honestly I’ve felt that most modern vehicles have weak AC – I sometimes wonder if with the increasing pressure to post improved fuel economy numbers with each generation that compressors are being undersized compared to the past?
The only vehicles I every owned that I thought had really great AC were my 1982 Celebrity (which probably had a compressor that rivaled the displacement of the Iron Duke that powered it) and my standard cab 2004 F150 Heritage. With the Ford I just assumed that they probably used the same size compressor for all the cab configurations and I benefited by having the smallest cab offered. 🙂
You’re on to something with the fuel economy aspect, I’d say. Perhaps the compressors run less often. The change in refrigerant also plays a role, I would guess, though it ‘s not my area of expertise.
I’m pretty sure that Ford uses the same A/C compressor et al in every one of their vehicles. Both my current Mustang (2014 convertible) and its predecessor (2011 fastback) have/had extremely good air conditioning. In fact, I have had to dial back the temperature when in the Mustang for extended periods with the A/C on.
The A/C in my wife’s 2009 Highlander seems up to the task, at least to me. It takes a while to get all of that interior volume chilled but once that happens the car remains comfortable. The same thing is true with the Highlander’s heater, takes some time to get everything warm but after that no problems.
Since we have retired we no longer have to get into a car that has been sitting out in the cold or heat all day. Both cars are kept in the garage at home and, while the garage is not heated per se, both the furnace and the water heater are in the garage so even in zero degree weather it is reasonably comfortable.
How’s the Vibe’s A/C? I’m given to understand that it uses a Delco or Delphi compressor rather than the Denso one in the Corolla/Matrix.
Which is surprising as my 2009 Pontiac Vibe( one of 3000 that were painted in Mystic Blue Metallic) was an oven in the winter with the heat on(and mine was a base model (1.8l) with manual transmission, windows, locks)
The car with the coldest A/C I have owned is my 1995 Caddy DeVille. On a super hot day 10 minutes of running the A/C and it is freezing.
Lincoln has the distinction of being one of those brands that often much more compelling as a CPO buy than when brand new.
How do you like the MKZ? A certain site that is tangentially related to this one ripped apart the build quality on the MKZ they reviewed. I’m also curious whether you got the 4 or the 6 cyl version. (And if you already did a COAL on it, I apologize – I was probably traveling for work when it was published.)
The MKZ is a great car. I already covered it in a previous COAL. There is a link to it in the second paragraph of the last section of the article above.
I had to go back and look to see I didn’t actually post a comment on the MKZ article… nope I did not.
That’s how I got the MKS. Well, specifically, the dealership advertised it as certified. Once I realized I didn’t get any CPO paperwork, I asked them about it. But before I did that, I went ahead and took a screencast of everywhere they’d said it was certified on their website and two others. Only after I threatened them with that screencast did they acquiesce and certify the car.
“Yes, I can already sense the obligatory comments about how your family of six got by with just a VW Beetle when you were growing up. Sorry, but I’m not that kind of person”
I kind of know what you mean. When I was a 8 my mom bought a used 1983 cavalier wagon. It was a tight fit for a family of four. We had the car for two years before she got fed up with no space and two kids going he’s/she’s touching me or they’re on my side.
So in mid 1991 she bought a 1976 Buick Park Avenue Limited for $900 and turned the wagon over to my stepfather to drive to work.
A larger car with kids is great if you can afford it.
Our family of 15 got by just fine with an Isetta, thank you very much. A Beetle was for the *fancy* side of town.
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Isetta? Enclosed cabins are for the rich. We had a scooter.
You had two wheels? 1%’er.
Wheels? We had bricks
I was hoping you’d do a piece on the Mark III in that garage – IMO a “real” Lincoln!
Ask and ye shall receive: https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cars-of-a-lifetime/coal-1970-lincoln-continental-mark-iii-the-plot-twist/
Thank you Tom!
I, too, have one of Lincoln’s recent cars, a 2014 MKS with the standard 3.7-liter / FWD combo and the Elite package, and it both amazes and underwhelms me.
You could tell that when the MKS debuted in 2009, Lincoln was trying to make something special. But it was still a parts-bin car. And the corporate parts bin just wasn’t that nice. Things started to turn around for FoMoCo as a whole circa MY2011, when MyFord / MyLincoln touch debuted on the refreshed Edge, MKX and redesigned Explorer, bringing with them a whole host of other interfaces and a general upscale ambience to the cabin that had not previously been there. The MKS didn’t get these upgrades until 2013, when it was face-lifted. To Lincoln’s credit, that 2013 refresh was pretty major. Just as much attention went to the handling, braking, and just about everything that early owners / reviewers had complained about.
I’d call the 2013+ MKS a solid upgrade over a base / entry-level FWD luxury car of the same era, like the Lexus ES, Buick LaCrosse, and especially the Mercedes-Benz CLA. But beyond that, the allure starts to fall apart.
Kyree I’ve read a lot of your comments over at TTAC and always enjoy them! I don’t post over there because that place tends to get quite nasty at times but I find your comments to be well-balanced, informative and interesting. Keep up the good work!
We test drove an Edge- the plebian version of your Lincoln for those unfamiliar- in April this year and turned it down based on the suspension. The unnamed Ford dealer in Montrose tried to gloss over with a “you’ll get used to it”.
Actually, the MKC is based on the Escape. The MKX is based on the Edge
Yes, usually in those automatic suspensions, the damping ratios could be adjusted but little could be done for the spring rate ( if it’s air ride, it could be even more complicated and less controlled. Spring rate is beyond control sometimes )
Many professors made a career out of it but you see it’s not that refined after all sometimes.
In my somewhat Luddite opinion, almost any modern car has a huge handicap in ride quality, due to low profile tires. In many ways, a late-model light duty pickup or body-on-frame SUV with P metric 70 or 75 aspect ratio tires has a more comfortable ride in the real world of potholes and expansion joints than most passenger cars or crossovers. Older Peugeots, Citroens, Mercedes and Alfas rode nicely on their pizza cutter tires as well.
The lead pic is seriously appealing. A Mark III is definitely on my list of old cars to get if get back into old cars. Your logic in picking that particular Mark is impeccable, it’s the car I’d want.
The MKZ is rather sharply on my radar right now. We recently completed car shopping for my college daughter, and wrestled weather to buy for us and provide a hand me down, or buy for her.
If we had bought for us, a two year old off lease black MKZ AWD with 20,000 miles, all the toys we wanted, 5/70000 mile warranty and depreciated to under half of sticker with no negotiation was at the top of my wife’s list – an excellent way to buy a loaded Fusion with a NA large displacement V-6 – which you can’t get in a Fusion.