There are advantages to being a licensed amateur radio operator. The obvious one: you have communication no matter what happens to the infrastructure. A not so obvious one: Most ham operators are more than willing to help if you have an antenna to put up, or a problem with your equipment. A obscure benefit: Once in a great while you’ll head over to help a fellow ham operator, and discover a Curbside Classic sitting in his garage.
My friend Lee is a retired sheet metal fabricator that lives in St. George, Utah. He asked me to come over a while back and look at some radio equipment, and help him with a computer problem he’s been having. We spent a pleasant afternoon together, and he walked me through his garage.
Over in the corner sat…uh…”Lee, it’s an old car! What is it?”
“An original unrestored 1937 Packard Super 8.”
In 1937, the Super 8 was Packard’s largest and most expensive 8-cylinder model. Listing for $2450 ($38,000 adjusted), this automobile had been modernized for 1937 with more manageable size and lighter weight, which translated into improved performance. The car was also streamlined, as was fashionable at the time, with a raked radiator. The radiator has adjustable fins, controlled by a thermostat, to control airflow and assist in warming the car on cold days.
The Super 8 came factory equipped with a 320 cubic inch eight-cylinder inline engine developing 130 bhp, with a three-speed floor shifted synchromesh transmission, independent front suspension, and, in a first for Packard, four-wheel hydraulic drum brakes.
This car was bought in 1937 by Dr. Asa Dewey, as evidenced by the medical symbol on the front license plate. This was back in the days where doctors actually made house calls, so it was vital that the good doctor had reliable transportation. Lee bought the car in 1962, which makes this a 2 owner car.
Did someone mention reliable? I’d say so. 74 years later, Lee takes the Packard out several times a year and exercises it. The only problem he seems to have is keeping the 6 volt battery under the front seat charged enough.
Lee even showed me 65 year old repair manuals that covered all major brands of cars. He showed me the Packard in each of the books. He also showed me a schematic he drew of the car’s electrical system.
Which brings me to the final benefit of having this gentleman as my friend. How many of these curbside classics have the authors ridden in? Lee took me for a spin in the Packard. It fired right up at a touch of the starter (If it doesn’t it provides a means to crank it: The front emblem opens up to reveal a crank hole). For a car almost ¾ of a century old, it has a wonderfully smooth ride. Lee informed me that the car still has the original “fillable” shock absorbers, where you would simply fill the shocks with hydraulic oil when they got low. The surprise was when he said the shocks were dry at the moment, having sat for a while. A testament to the springs and frame of this beautiful unrestored classic. All gauges work, with the exception of the temperature gauge and the clock. Lee has added an aftermarket temperature gauge under the dash on the left side of the driver.
Torque is incredible. In rounding a corner, Lee didn’t even shift out of third. He told me when he lived in Salt Lake City he would start at the bottom of the State Street hill in third, and never downshift the entire way. Quite a feat. Try to do that in modern cars. Especially starting from a stop in high gear. My F-150 complains if I try it in second (it’s a 5-speed).
Unfortunately, Lee is getting up in age and can’t work on this car as much as he’d like to. He told me he’d be willing to sell it to the right person who would appreciate it the way he has and put some real love and care into it. He’d be interested in talking to you if you are that person. I can put you in touch with Lee. Email me at rwayman@gmail.com and I’ll pass your message on. He will entertain all offers. (note: this was first posted in 2011 – ED)
Not your everyday Curbside Classic. But a fascinating one. A chance to see an original Packard Super Eight doesn’t come along every day. Grab the chance if you get it.
What a beautiful car – and an amazing story. This was great to drink my morning coffee to.
Me too! My Curbside Coffee is how I start my mornings! Ohh, if I had the money, some storage space and the mechanical expertise to fix this, I’d be on the way to St. George today!
Stories like this are why I love cars so much.
I like to see an original car that’s been taken care of. What a nice old Packard!
Beats a trailer queen any day of the week! It’s driven and enjoyed…which is how it should be.
Wonderful. Does he run any vintage radio gear as well? Hams should have a site like this for the old “boat anchors”. 73 de KC7IT
I bet there are forums for “Boat Anchors” too. I used to have a old 2 meter rig I often used in my ’63 LeSabre. It wasn’t from the era of the car but was from the early 70’s which is when I bought the Buick. You can look in my Ham borther’s garage and see a 56 Buick and my other ham brother and see a 60’s Triumph bike. In 2012 I operated the PA QSO party mobile from my ’63 at a car show and then two other counties in WPA. 73s KA3KSP
Awesome. You’re a lucky guy. Are those machine guns coming out of the escutcheons on the front bumper?
Wonderful find. My grandfather was pres. of Savannah Power in the 1930s. A perk was a new Packard every year so I have been a big fan. Sadly he died before I was born
Funny you should mention that, Packardfan. He told me that Al Capone owned one of these cars.
No, they’re not machine guns. I don’t even remember now what they are other than some sort of ornamentation.
MikePDX: No, no vintage gear at Lee’s place. Nor at mine – unless you count my novice rig from 1982.
Thank you everyone for the nice comments. Lee’s watching this page as well. Keep ’em coming!
Nice ride. That’s what shows love for a machine, keeping it beautiful and orginal.
Wow. Just wow. This is a gem that ought to be preserved for another generation.
There is nothing nicer than an original, old, unrestored car. Any idiot with enough money can have any classic he wants. But a car like this is truly, truly a rare and beautiful thing.
That’s how it all started for me, a somewhat weathered, “seen better times,” definitely unrestored classic, which nevertheless was loved by its non-mechanically inclined owner who loved the car dearly and faithfully spent large amounts of cash at a local chain mechanic at every slightest hiccup. Unable to keep up with the car any longer, the owner was looking for someone who would (their words) “know what they have in this car.” The way I stood there and stared at the car (no mechanical knowledge whatsoever at the time) I guess I had made my case. When we struck the deal the owner played a farewell song on the car’s stereo as a way of saying goodbye, and then a new chapter in my life and an incredible relationship/adventure began.
I hope that Lee finds the Right Person to sell this car to. There is absolutely no way this car shouldn’t last another 3/4 century 😀 …I say, it needs to be someone who can make a daily summertime driver out of that thing!
Thank you for a great write-up!
That is a truly amazing find, Paul! Great job, you surely do deliver. 🙂
Uh, I meant Richard, sorry.
Awesome car a real time capsule
+1 I’d much sooner read about cars like this than the trailer queens that have had tons of money thrown at them
Heh. No problem, Btrig.
It was fun to see, ride in, and photograph. The words just flew off my fingers.
Richard
“The words just flew off my fingers”
Well put, and it’s a great feeling when they do 🙂
Thanks again for this Super story.
Fantastic car. Would be a share if this one got restored. It just needs to be used as Lee did. A car can only be original once and this one has plenty of life left.
The Fifteenth Series (1937, more or less) was the first year for IFS on the bigger Packards. The One Twenty had both independent front suspension and hydraulic brakes from the start in 1935, but the senior cars lagged behind. I presume the comparative sales of the junior and senior cars had a lot to do with that.
One tip-off is the bumpers. From 1930 through 1936, the senior cars have hydraulic stabilizers at each end of the front and rear bumpers, which served to damp wheel shimmy and vibration with solid axles. They were dropped on the Fifteenth Series, because IFS rendered them unnecessary.
Awesome car, terrific photos, great write up all capturing the essence of Curbside Classic! Thanks to the author and the owner for sharing, and kudos to both as well!
I saw a Packard roadster in yellow today same model as this it was cruising the Art Deco city saw it 4 times all over town nice old car.
Beautiful looking car. I love original survivors. If any upgrades need to be done to improve the driveability of the car or the safety of the car, that’s fine, but otherwise, I’d leave the car alone. 🙂
What a beautiful car and the patina just adds to the loveliness. Is it silver or grey? The license plates are also nice, but I am surprised there is not a hood ornament. Would adding a swamp cooler be sacraligious? If I had a lot of money lying around I would buy this Packard and keep it the way it is.
I have driven/ridden from Southeast Utah to Northwest Utah over three days, but have yet to visit the other corners or the spaces between them.
I agree. 🙂
” Ask the Man who owns one ! ” ~ sales slogan in Packard’s heyday .
Nice car this .
-Nate
When I was working in Berkeley CA in the early 1970s, a business owner, with the intention of doing a partial restoration for use in his business, bought himself an unrestored 1937 Packard hearse. Something had been done to it over the years to where the straight-8 was TOO TIGHT a fit…one day the fan belt broke and it was impossible to fit a new one…the crankshaft pulley was too close to the radiator…cleared by barely 1/4 inch, which to my mind is too darn close for comfort.
The car was “fixed” with one of those temporary “get-it-home” fan belts. The Packard
only went for short distances around town, and I never heard that the temporary
belt ever failed.
I left Berkeley shortly thereafter; I don’t know whether the business owner’s plans for
the Packard ever panned out. I think the chances are that it’s still a survivor now, but I’ve no idea
where.
The Packard sold about 6 weeks after this article was published. It went to a gentleman in Las Vegas who promised to keep it original and drive it as much as possible.
Color – well, I’d say it was a grey color. The paint was faded and chipped in places but I honestly don’t believe they had a car color of “silver” back then.
It was nice seeing this pop up again. One of my better writings. Lee is still kicking around and we both are active members of the local amateur radio club as well.
Well that is good to know, just have to hope the Packard stays in good hands. I have heard that about Silver cars because even my folks Saab 99 which was supposed to be Silver looked more like a Grey.
I just love old four door cars like that. If I had it, I’d give it some new paint (same color) and get the little things like that clock and temp gauge back in to working order. Might even win some awards, I’m sure!
Everything old is new again. Today those thermostatically controlled grille openings are called “active grille shutters”: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1079678_active-shutter-grille-vents-how-they-help-improve-mpg
Probably the best mass produced car the US ever let out of the barn. Thanks for sharing.
Great car and story – and appreciate the update on the prior owner in the comments.
Not hard to like prewar Packards, or Caddys for that matter. Postwar is harder for me, with both brands.
I heard “Uncle Joe” Stalin was a Packard fan, & thus the ZIS-110 was based upon the 1942 Super 8. Is this true?
Not hard to like prewar Packards, or Caddys for that matter. Postwar is harder for me, with both brands.
oh…there were some postwar Packards that work for me. (not my video)
“I heard “Uncle Joe” Stalin was a Packard fan, & thus the ZIS-110 was based upon the 1942 Super 8. Is this true?”
True. Packard was a popular car with many party officials before WWII. And that is why the ZIS 110 was based on a Packard, but it wasnt fully copied.
Such officials included NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria, who was known (even by American embassy personnel) to cruise around Moscow in his Packard, looking for young ladies to take for a ride. You can imagine what happened to the scrupulous ones.
So a good way to stay alive in that era must’ve been to suddenly remember an appointment whan a Packard approached.
Two words…. “class act” as is.
Glad to see this piece get re-run. I missed it the first time. I saw a very similar car (although not in running condition) a couple of years ago.
My idea of a perfect classic car: no obsessing over paintwork or shiny chrome. Just get in, drive and enjoy it.
Love it! Unrestored cars are so special…because you can’t recreate them. Once the orignality is gone, it never comes back. So I hope the new owner has kept it as perfect as it was under Lee’s care.