(first published 5/30/2011) It’s not that the larder was getting low, but after a few days of hut-building, the primeval urge to find fresh prey can no longer be denied. Its the essence of CC; we hunt, then gather around the (electronic) campfire to share our quarry. Armed with a brand new weapon with which to capture the elusive prey, my companion and I set out on our walk-and-stalk. I’m on high alert, scanning up and down every street we cross for distant tell-tale clues. I follow my nose: “no, let’s go a different way today”. Good thing too: rounding a corner I see it two blocks away:
“A Rhino! I mean REO!”
“What? Where? I don’t see anything”.
There’s no other truck with that distinctive prow, and is it ever rare. Catching one of these in the wild is the automotive equivalent of catching a near-extinct Javan rhinoceros, if not more so. There’s about forty of those rhinos still alive; Reo Speedwagon pickups of this vintage? Maybe half a dozen or so. Kill!
And to what do I attribute my rare catch? Let’s just say my odds of catching it were improved by sneaking up on Eugene’s exotic cars’ favorite watering hole, The Sports Car Shop. No, it’s not there for sale; that would be cheating. This Reo really does live in the wilds hereabout, and it was out for a romp. It’s owner Ike had just pulled into the parking lot, his passenger eager to check out a lovely white Porsche 356 coupe out front; the perfect decoy for car lovers.
And Ike is quite the hunter himself, although he hunts to keep; I’m a catch and release (the shutter) type. The Reo is hardly the only one in his corral. I didn’t get the full rundown, but he owns what are undoubtedly the two coolest and my favorite pickups in town. The Reo, and…
this little pygmy truck, a 1979 Suzuki Jimny pickup (CC here). We do share taste in big-wheeled out-of-the ordinary pickups, big or small. These two trucks perfectly bracket the two extremes of pickupdom, as well as my own specific range of needs and desires in them.
The baby one to run to the hardware store for that kanuter valve bushing, and that one-tonner to haul really big loads of gravel and whatever. My F-100 is the compromise right between them: too big for parts chasing; too little for really heavy loads and trailers: jack of all trades; master of none. Kind of sums me up too; some of us just have to learn to live with our compromises. Not Ike, apparently.
He proudly showed us pictures of his latest find: a Triumph TR-3 with overdrive he spotted mostly hidden under a tarp in a shed, but in remarkably good condition. Bagged it for $500. That raised a few eyebrows in our circle, especially Bob Macherione’s, the pro in the group. The TR definitely has a certain truckiness to it, and not in a bad way.
But the Reo; well that’s the trophy. Records are a bit sketchy, but it seems like about 200 of these 1949 D19XA pickups were made, and only a handful survive. The story of REO, and the pickup model is quite a yarn, so let’s pull in a bit closer to the fire…
REO stands for Ransom E. Olds, whose first company carried his last name, and built the first mass-production car ever, the 1901 curved-dash Olds. Selling for $650, the one cylinder Olds was the first car that really caught the public’s interest on a large scale, and it’s ruggedness earned it a stellar reputation. Henry Ford’s Model T was the logical next step.
Like so many founders in the automotive gold-rush days, Olds clashed with his backers and was shown the door in 1904. He started his next company, named REO, to avoid a copyright suit with Olds. Reo It got off to a fantastic start, but the Model T put the brakes its success, like so many other car companies at the time. Olds stepped back from active management in 1915, and in the late twenties, Reo’s ambitious expansion set it up for a crash in the Depression. Reo stopped building cars in 1936.
Reo also started making light trucks in 1915, under the REO Speedwagen moniker. Incidentally, both spellings, REO and Reo, were used at various times by the company. Car and truck sales were roughly equally divided, and pretty modest in numbers. Reo never achieved the success of Olds’ first company.
After car production was suspended, Reo became a truck only manufacturer, mostly in the mid-sized range like this dump truck from 1939. Reo’s mainstay engine was its Gold Crown six, which typical for the era was profoundly undersquare, with a 3 1/8″ bore and 5″ stroke. A straight eight was also made between 1932 and 1936.
Like many truck manufacturers, the smallest models were firmly in pickup territory, with 1/2 ton ratings. The 3/4 ton Model BN was the basis for this lovely woody wagon. During the late twenties and thirties, truck styling generally mirrored car styling as much as possible, and even the biggest trucks, which really weren’t very big in the pre-interstate era, tended to sit low and have handsome hoods and fenders. During this era, the smaller Reos typically used a Continental-sourced six.
1941 was a year that many manufacturers restyled their vehicles, and often for the last time until well after the end of the war. Reo introduced its new “alligator” front end, named after the way the whole front clip (minus the fenders) flipped up for engine access. Most truck continued with a center-hinged two-piece hood. For some reason, it reminds me more of a rhino’s head.
Actually, it reminds me much more of this, the Union Pacific M-1004 of 1936 (built by GM’s EMD). The train streamliners of the thirties were profoundly influential, as is all-too obvious on the new 1941 REO.
This 1949 pickup is a mode D19XA, which was the smallest version of the post-war Reo lineup. It’s hard to get a lot of detail information about it, but it appears only some 200 or so were built, apparently because Reo was essentially abandoning the low end of the truck market, to focus on the mid and larger part of it.
The post war era saw a rapid expansion of highways and of course the interstates, which corresponded to an explosion of truck sizes as interstate trucking really took off. And the small end of the market was crowded, as the big manufacturers used their economies of scale to undercut a smaller company like Reo.
Reo eventually couldn’t keep up in the large truck market either, and was taken over in 1954 by Bohn for a few years before Reo was absorbed by White Motors. White eventually consolidated its Diamond T and Reo divisions into the Diamond Reo brand. Eventually, that was spun off, and Diamond Reo continued as a small builder of specialized trucks until the end came in 1995.
This one or one and a half ton truck is the equivalent of the big super-duty pickups that have become common again, but had rather fallen out of favor in the fifties and sixties. With its big wheels and heavy duty components, this is one tough looking and working rig.
We lifted up the alligator jaws to check out the Gold Crown 245 Cubic inch (4 liter) side-valve six, which is rated at 89 hp @3100 rpm. This is pretty typical of the period, when even the biggest trucks might have 150 hp. Trucks were just slower, which was a perpetual pain when coming up behind one. That was the big appeal of four-lane highways, as the speed differential was often huge, especially on any upgrade.
Ike fired up the six, which like all old low-compression flathead sixes runs so quietly and smoothly, you hardly know it’s alive. The hydraulic pump is there for a good reason:
This Reo has a dump bed. Now I’m really jealous. I’ve been needing a truck of this size and capacity with a dump bed for years. Makes me want to go look for something like this, but just not quite so exotic.
I’d be pained to see a couple of yards of gravel get dropped into this bed by a front end loader, although it looks like this one has seen a bit of use since this truck was restored.
With this Detroit-Timken rear axle geared at 5.66 to 1, this Reo is anything but a speedwagon on the road. I forgot to ask Ike, but I’d guess it tops out at somewhere between 45 and 50. That wouldn’t be a problem for me, given my usual radius of action.
The cabs on these old trucks are as far a cry from modern trucks as are the horsepower ratings. That’s the accessory heater down there (heaters were an option back then, cars included). The stick shift , hidden by the big wheel, works a Warner T-97 four speed, which was a mainstay in light-medium trucks for ages. Its granny low first will pull stumps indeed.
Don’t try to take pictures of a flat-glass instrument panel on a (rare) sunny day, for obvious reasons.
Having shared our hunting stories, we were all ready to roll. Ike pulled out in the Reo, Bob went back in to close up the store, and we walked on, satiated, and not even bothering to look for other prey.
What kind of cupholders did it have? Where is the iPod dock???
Really nice truck, with an even better name. Looks like it’s missing one of the studs for the exhaust manifold though.
“Looks like it’s missing one of the studs for the exhaust manifold though.”
I’m betting 1/2 the stud broke off and still resides in the head.
Great old truck a real working truck not like the soft rubbish made now, never seen a later REO there was a 1936 Speedwagon in my home town but havent seen one in years good catch Paul,
Nice find! That CC Clue was one of the greatest. I would never have thought of an REO truck. I have only seen one of these live and in person but, alas, it was at a local show. The one I spotted had Silver Crown Power though.
Dear Longrooffan,
I’ve been looking for a picture of this model Reo for some time now. My Dad had one when I was about 5 but almost no photos exist in our albums. Any chance I can get some pix of this model ? I know this thread is pretty old but it’s the first I’ve seen that has this photo. Our model had the Silver Crown power on the radiator also.
Regards, Dave.
Here is the badge on its nose.
Great article, even if it did cause “Can’t Fight This Feeling” to play in my brain for an hour or so…
See you thought of REO Speedwagon and I thought of one of my favorite country groups, Diamond Rio (spelled like the river to avoid a lawsuit) so now I’ve got “I’ll Start Walking You’re Way You Start Walking Mine” in my head.
I was thinking of them too – how many defunct automotive brands have *two* famous bands named after them?
In addition to “In My Merry Oldsmobile”, another famous Olds-themed song is “Rocket 88”, perhaps the first rock song to become a major hit.
I think the real reason Diamond RIO was spelled that way was to avoid confusion with the Pittsburgh-based Rock band of the 1970s…
Sorry, I would still take the ’79 Suzuki Jimny.
Fantastic find. I wasn’t aware Reo was making trucks that small in the postwar era.
Looking at that cab…I’m getting some deja vu. When I was a kid, our small-but-growing little town put in its first order for really big trucks…sanitation and general-purpose dump- and salt-trucks. They chose Reo…it was 1965, and the cabs of those trucks looked like something out of another era.
The windshields were one-piece but flat; and the doors and lines almost identical except for vent windows. They really looked like antiques…something REALLY old, like from THIRTY YEARS AGO! (that’s a kid’s wonderment, there)
It was only a couple years later that Reo and parent White went with standardized cabs…again, our city ordered up two more. Identical on the hood; identical size; but entirely different cab. A cab that stayed with them right up until the end of White.
Anyway, great find. Great write-up.
A couple of years ago someone brought a restored Reo dump truck to the local Wednesday cruise (that’s at the A&W in Port Orchard). It had the same cab and nose as the pickup you found, and although the wheelbase wasn’t much longer it did of course have dual rear wheels. It looked like it’d just been restored, to the point where the inside of the dump box was shiny.
What a great writeup on a great truck. Its a treat to look at something this rare.
What a fantastic find! I’ve seen a few mid duty Reos before but never realized there was a pickup version.
I actually have seen one but didn’t know what I saw.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daveseven/3661099261/
I know of a guy named Ike. Now I’m curios and wonder if he bought this REO from a guy I knew about that owned one and lived in Roseburg.
I have a 1946 that I am restoring and have pulled my hair out looking for a water pump. I dont care if it’s new, rebuilt or if someone knows who could do it. Please feel free to email me:
dmn88me@hotmail.com
Great article! Inspired me to go up to my garage and take a look at my 1944 REO Crane. It’s one of many projects on my list to restore. I think the Pitman Hydra-Lift Crane on the back really makes it a truck worth restoring. It’s so long and angled into my garage basement that its hard to get a great picture of it; but I tried.
hi would be interested in selling 1 of the reo 3606303439 thanks barry
Hey, look at that!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=495314357174270&set=a.177408148964894.33870.100000871299418&type=1&theater
The smart one playing guitar was my Granpa, Chico Gomes. He used to ride a 1949 REO in the muddy roads around Itapeva on early 50’s- São Paulo state, Brazil.
Your publication helped me to recognize the truck brand, thank you!
I have a photo of a 1939 Reo Bus and I would like to show it here. Please help me to do so
I really enjoyed this story the first time around, and again today. Now, I notice two things. First, that front bumper is a fascinating design, though it looks like any decent tap would do some damage to the fenders.
Second, that color of green was a staple for pickup trucks pretty much through the mid 60s. My 63 F-100 was about this color, which made the truck feel older than it really was.
You are to be commended on your good eye. I would not have recognized this one right away.
Wow. I tend to not be real excitable anymore but this would do it. Have a friend that had one of these. He sold it and bought an old ford roadster with a sbc. Now they are all parked.
Used to see kits to make dump beds like that and I expect they are still available. My compromises now seem to be centered around trailers that get the job done. Wife says I am obsessed but it tends to be cheaper that way. This article has me thinking of a mechanical dump bed on a trailer. Probably break less.
Good article and a great find.
“…..and I’m gonna keep on loving you….” Sorry I had to make reference to the band Reo Speedwagon in my post.
I had read somewhere that the Speedwagon was the ancestor of the modern pickup truck.
The company also made cars like the Reo Royale but gave up making cars after WW2. I have always wondered if there is an REO car club for owners of the REO cars or do they simply belong to one of the numerous Oldsmobile clubs?
Enjoyed that even more the second time around. The REO in my home town was/is a 36 about 4 ton chassis it had sign written on the bonnet “over a Million miles on Mobil oil” when it was repainted/restored in the 60s it had been a frontline freight truck from new and had been worked hard Mobil paid for the signwriting, that compnay has since gone brioke but I;d bet Kelvin still has that REO stashed away or maybe his son I was at school with has it now, must find out.
I never knew about the connection between REO and Randsom Olds. I learn something new every time I check in here.
Nice truck, what a find.
Our local public works dept. has a larger restored REO dump truck with chain drive, They bring it out for local parades and events. I’ll take some pics next time I see it.
For the record, Diamond Reo isn’t dead, not completely. The rights are owned by a company based in Swatara Township, Harrisburg PA. If you drive US 322 past the Wal-Mart from Harrisburg to Hershey you’ll see the Diamond Reo sign on the right. They still manufacture a limited number of vehicles to this day (so they claim, I’ve never personally seen one).
The town where I grew up in Eastern WA actually still had an REO in their fleet back in the 1970s. I had never seen one before and didn’t know anything about the company until much later in life. My best friend and I used to have long discussions about all of the ‘mystery’ truck brands (REO, White, Autocar, etc etc) that we would occasionally see.
I have a 1947 Reo Speedwagon that I am taking offers on. It is whole, but is getting rusty!
Anyone interested email me rapunzel812@hotmail.com
Hi Sara-
Do you still have this? If so what parts are with it? If so my name is Tammie and the # is 330-830-3097. Thank you for your time!
Check out this (slightly modified) 1947 REO Speed Wagon!
THAT IS THE MOST AWESOME TRUCK THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN ,IM BUILDING A 1948 FOR SOMEONE ,AND I WANT ONE ,PLEASE SEND MORE PHOTOS THAT IS SO COOL THUMBS UP TO YOU GREAT JOB TONY
Looking for a 1947 ton and a half REO speedwagon truck- any ideas?
I have a 1948 reo speedwagon for sale. its a d19b flat bed. I think its a 2 ton but its been restored in 2009. 217-841-0054
Nice example of a REO truck at its best TH. Nice to see some still around in the America’s. Looks just like 50, but mine only has its patina’s lustre left on it from its past/last years of duty in the 80’s. Original tyres are getting a bit dry, but it is old rubber. Not like that new “rubber”stuff that has a shelf/time life like a Mission Impossible series introduction tape that self-destructs shortly after it’s played its last audible. “Poof”
Much like how Mr. Olds & its later Corporation’s that backed this beautiful marque faded into oblivion from pressure by the larger manufacturers who did get them Fed employment loans to bail them out time after time.
This REO has been sold
i have one in canada…but all i am selling is the fronr half of the frame and the motor;;;;;;;;;;;;;text me 1 306 747.5635…..or e-mail …..victorymanwilf@HOTMAIL.COM
I may be able to get my hands on a very clean 1949 REO Speedwagon truck cab with title. Looks like the one pictured in this thread…complete chrome, pretty solid. Can anyone tell me what would be a reasonable price to pay?
Vanessa
Vanessa, do you mean cab and chassis, or just cab?
Any pics? I’m sentimemtal, but its a shame many of these are no longer around. I learned to drive truck in a 47 dually dump that was previously a milk hauler can truck which my dad drove. Double clutching vacuum 2spd, I’m thinking the windshield vented. We hauled coal, cement bagged, oats, corn, all on a 5ton farm license in Wisconsin into the late 70s.
Had a 41cab and chassis that went to a rat rod project.
Tom,
Came across your post while researching a 1948/49(?) REO Speedwagon that was used on a family farm circa 1950. I believe the vehicle originally was sold new as a box truck. The box was made of wood. This was removed and an all metal dump body was installed (the box was used as a doghouse). Your memory (“I’m thinking the windshield vented.”) rang a bell. I remember what looked a door window type crank mounted on the upper center of the dashboard. The windshield opened out from the bottom.
Did you ever get a price and what was it for a 1049 Painted REO Speedwagon Dump Truck with title???
We have a 1929 REO Speedwagon Stakebed ready to sell. Anyone interested, it’s in Oregon.
I’ve got a 1934 BN series long-wheelbase REO Speed Wagon used for passenger transport in Australia and restored in the late 1990s and now running a modern drive train. I’m struggling to find other examples apart from the woody in your story. Is it the last of its kind? http://www.belle.net.au/reo-speedwagon-vintage-limo/
An inspiring article some very rare models there. We offer for hire the Jaguar MK5 models for wedding car services in Perth Western Australia. However the parts required for maintenance are getting rarer to find.
Can you tell me where you found the vin number on your truck. I have a 1942 REO and am unable to find the number.
Most amazing trucks. Nothing like driving it down the road to town. Found mine in an old cherry orchard in eastern Oregon 16 years ago! Took 6 years to restore, but it was love at first sight, so what’s a guy to do!
I own a 1948 reo speedwagon that I have restored . Unfortunately I have neglected to drive it for a while and I need to get it running again. Does anyone know where to find carb kit?
I bought a 1946 REO one and a half ton dump truck (Kansas grain truck) just for the cab so I could build a rat rod. I want to sell the engine and tranny. I’ve replaced and/or had rebuilt external engine parts and it starts and runs smoothly. The clutch works fine and I assume the trans works but I can’t say for sure. The truck had less than 23K miles on it when parked so I feel it has had little wear. I’m in Okla and it would require personal pick up. I’ll be glad to send pictures or a video of the engine running if I can find a youngster to help me do that. lol Mike Rice 405-808-1928
My 16 year old son just inherited this 1949 REO from his late grandpa. His grandma gave it to him to have in case of future medical expenses as he has Cystic Fibrosis. We are unsure if we should restore it or leave as is. The only thing not original from what we can tell is the paint. My father-in-law had a local high school shop class give it a rough paint job not long before he passed. They did no body work.
I am glad I found this article as we know very little about this truck. It appears to be very similar to the green one in the article. It does have a dump bed.
Another view
Interior
Engine
I HAVE A PERFECT 1941 REO BEEN STORED I A GARAGE SINCE NEW IT IS A RACK BODY IT HAS 7600 ON IT 100 ORIGINAL COULD BE THE NICEST ONE ORIGINAL ONE YOU WILL EVER FIND I WIll SEND PICTURES WILL TAKE PART TRADE FOR PORSCHE TRUCK IS IN N.J CALL J DONOVAN AT MY FLORIDA NUMBER 1 386 481 3975 ASKING 69.000 OBO
I’ve seen some nice REO’s been turned in to modern Limousines while travelling. Have a look at this Ford I can across while travelling in Perth Australia. They call themselves as Perth Limo Hire. https://perthlimohire.com/
Nice truck, what a find.
Our local public works dept. has a larger restored REO dump truck with chain drive, They bring it out for local parades and events. I’ll take some pics next time I see it.
One of the problems REO had in the 50’s was they didn’t make a lot of heavy diesels, instead concentrating on gasoline powered medium duty trucks. That put them in direct competition with high volume truck manufacturers like Ford, Chevy, GMC, and International. Nonetheless, REO was able to develop a line of modern OHV gasoline engines starting with an in-line 6 and culminating in a very modern (and large) V-8 by the mid-50’s. These engines caught the eye of White, whose ‘Mustang’ flathead 6’s were becoming quite obsolete by the mid-50’s. After White purchased REO, the REO engines replaced most of the old Mustang engines in White trucks, going under the name ‘Super-Mustang’. In addition, some REO models were re-badged as Whites and sold through the White dealer network to build volume for the REO factory and give White dealers a more competitive low cost medium duty truck to sell. White consolidated REO and Diamond-T in the early 60’s due to low sales and overlapping product, forming Diamond-Reo. Diamond-Reo was sold off as White’s financial situation worsened in the 1970’s, and Diamond-Reo went bankrupt in 1975 after a deal to manufacture military trucks fell through. Diamond-Reo was taken over by a dealer in Pennsylvania and low volume production continued (much like the Studebaker Avanti) for many years.
You can find a series of PDFs describing the REO Gold Comet V-8 at this link:
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-other-440-the-late-great-54-to-75-reo-gold-comet-v8.455208/
The big truck gas engines of the 1950s fascinate me. International had its LV series topping out 549 cubic inches (9 liters). Ford had Super Duty V-8s topping out at 534 ci (8.8 liters). Mack stuck with sixes up to 707 ci (11.6 liters). These engines generally had more power than the naturally-aspirated diesels of the time but once turbochargers were widespread that was the end of the gasser.
Presumably still in service, this REO Speedwagon has been “Ridin’ The Storm Out” for 70 years.
What a survivor!
What a trophy! 🙂
My Dad used to drive REO trucks when he was in the US Army (1950-1953).
He used to tell the story of strapping the K rations to the exhaust manifold to heat them up, unfortunately of course as you can predict, he didn’t control when they next got to stop (he was a sergent) and they exploded causing a mess inside the engine compartment (which of course he got to clean afterward).
He later was stationed in Germany and told me they commonly drove VW Beetles (instead of Jeeps, guess they were more available)…once he became a civilian his first “second” car in our family was a 1959 Beetle, second hand, and pretty rusty before it was totalled by a teenager who ran into it while it was parked in front of our house. A new 1968 Renault R10 replaced it (my Dad’s first new foreign car). At that same time, he owned a 1965 Oldsmobile F85 wagon (the only Olds he was to own).
I’ve now acquired the 1934 BN series long-wheelbase REO Speed Wagon used for passenger transport in Australia and restored in the late 1990s and now running a modern drive train. I’m struggling to find other examples apart from the woody in your story. Is it the last of its kind?
https://allurelimousines.com.au/reo-speedwagon/
I have no idea.
I found this truck in a collapsed building so can’t get close enough to really check it out. It sure looks like the picture in your post although it is definitely heavier than a pickup as it was a delivery truck.
Anyone with insight as to how I find out more (after we safely remove it from the old building)?
I have many photos but can only load 1. Will try to load a few more as the turn signals are really unique and I have found no pictures like it yet.
Here is the turn signal. I think it is pretty cool and would be fun to see it work again.
The box still has some good paint on it and those mirrors! How many guys slammed their heads into those cuz they are the perfect height to getcha!