(first posted 6/23/2017) We live in a day and age of opposites. You may say black while I say white. We have red states and blue states, Fox News and MSNBC, and let us not forget that Bar-B-Que and PETA each has their fan base. In today’s automotive landscape this bifurcation continues with opposites like the Prius Hybrid and the F-250 King Ranch.
It was not always so. If we could go back fifty or more years, the stark opposites that are so common today were a little harder to come by. But there was this one: The 1961 Chevrolet Impala and this car, the 1961 Dodge Dart.
Let us get one thing out of the way. Yes, say ye sticklers for detail, Dodge was aimed a notch higher in the market – more at Pontiac than at Chevrolet. Well yes . . . and no. As America recovered from the nasty recession of 1958, the traditional “low priced three” became the place to be. All of a sudden everyone wanted in on the action. The 1961 Mercury advertised that it was “Priced right in the heart of the low priced field.” Dodge went Mercury one better with an entire new line of Dodges “Priced dollar for dollar with Ford and Chevrolet.” Uh, I think they forgot to mention Plymouth, which was not having an easy time selling cars as it was. But whether Chrysler (or America) needed a second version of Plymouth, that was what we all got in the 1960-61 Dodge Dart.
The Dart (which would not take on its familiar status as the compact Dodge until 1963) was offered in three separate sub-models from the low end Seneca to the high trim Phoenix. This Dart Pioneer was in the middle, so perhaps more akin to a Bel Air or whatever Plymouth was calling its middle line that year. Really, after finally getting a handle on the strange multi-layered Dodge lineup for 1961 I have no energy left to get the Plymouths straight in my head too, so you’re on your own. But to review, there were two Dodge models – the Polara (real Dodge on a 122 inch wheelbase) and the Dart (Plymouth-like-Dodge on a 118 inch wheelbase) which came in three sub-models. Are these the only cars that require three names to properly identify, like John Wilkes Booth or Lee Harvey Oswald? That both of these men were assassins makes for an appropriate analogy because these three-named Dodges gave killing Plymouth a pretty good try.
When we recently looked at the ’61 Chevrolet Impala, I was struck by a few things. We all know that it was one of the most popular cars in the land, selling over 400,000 units in just that top trim line alone (with the full range of regular Chevrolet coming in at around 1,300,000). It was also a beautiful car. It was not a simple design, either. It was a complex symphony of sculptured lines, angles and curves that all came together in one of the most svelte and athletic-looking big cars of all time. We also know (or at least I do) that these were not exactly renowned as great road cars in their day. That “Jet Smooth” ride was the result of a very soft suspension system and even their fastest steering box took 5 turns of the wheel from left lock to right. Also, the cars were afflicted by some really odd ergonomics, mainly a very low seat and a high steering column.
Then there was this Dodge. Could we consider the ’61 Dodge Dart as the opposite of the Impala? Where Chevrolet’s beauty was on display for all to see, the Dodge’s beauty was visible only to those willing to burrow deep down below its, ummm, unique looks. The old bit of wisdom tells us that true beauty lies within, and this was where the Dodge could strut its stuff.
Let us begin with the beautiful part of this car. I would propose that the large cars of the Chrysler Corporation may have been at their pinnacle in the years from 1960-64, at least in terms of their driving dynamics. The 1957 line is rightly famous as the cars that pushed big American cars to new levels of roadability. That pesky tradeoff between smooth ride on the one hand and taut handling on the other seemed to have been solved by the suspension engineers in Highland Park. Everyone credits the front torsion bars for the cars’ great agility, and everyone would be half right. The torsion bars (and the suspension geometry that went with them) proved able to minimize things like braking dive while providing a relatively compliant spring rate. The rear leaf springs were also re-imagined. Not only were they widely spaced on mounts outside of the frame rails (as opposed to below the frame or inside of it, as were the common practices of the time) but the axle was mounted ahead of the normal mid point of the leaf, about 1/3 back from the front shackle. The effect was that the stiff, short forward part of the spring located the axle very securely for minimization of squat and dive forces in acceleration and braking. The long, more flexible rear part of the leaf allowed for a smoother ride.
The inherent weakness with the 1957-59 cars was their traditional body-on-frame structure, which permitted too much structural flex. Although this flex was reduced in 1958 and 1959 models, it was never eliminated. The 1960 Unibody construction gave these cars the structural integrity that they deserved. Now, the best suspension in the industry was mated to one of the most rigid structures in the industry to go along with it. Later generations of Chrysler C bodies would begin to soften their spring rates in the quest for an improved ride, but those cars lost some of their handling edge in the process.
These cars’ goodness was not restricted to their suspensions and their bodies. Chrysler’s engines of this era were hard to beat, particularly the 383 and 413 of the B/RB big block family, engines that became the backbone of Mopar’s renowned performance cars of the 1960s. Although to get the 383 you would have to upgrade to a Polara. The Dart was offered with the standard slant six, a 2 bbl 318 (4 bbl with the Dart Power Package) or a 4 bbl 361 (the Dart D-500). Also, not to be forgotten was the excellent 3 speed Torqueflite automatic transmission which was without peer for both performance and durability.
So, we have proved that the ’61 Dodge Dart was far and away a better car than the ’61 Chevy, right? Well . . . perhaps to the ten five percent of buyers who prize function above all else. As for the rest who care about how their car looks? Perhaps not.
It has become a popular thing in modern life to try unorthodox combinations. “Hey, let’s take a bacon cheeseburger and add peanut butter, cranberries and pine nuts!” Sometimes these odd combinations work, like the cocktail I was recently served that consisted of rye whiskey, maple syrup and fresh rosemary. And sometimes . . . . you get things like this Dodge. Here, it was “Hey, let’s start with a fin over the back wheel, make it slope downward all the way back then do a 180 degree reverse into a line that goes forward until it . . . almost lines up with that line on the front fender, which can then start a whole series of incomprehensible melty bulges and sags around the front.” A wise man once said that just because something can be done does not mean that it should be done. Or something like that.
I have looked over the lines of this car quite a bit. I kind of see what they were trying to do. There were some fascinating ideas going on here. Intriguing, even. This is not a boring design. And if I might go out on a limb, the basic overall shape is not terrible. But as actually conceived and built? It just. Doesn’t. Work. None of it. The front is a mess, the rear is a mess and even the side (probably the car’s best feature) is a mess.
The ’61 Plymouth was a decent effort that was let down by a bizarre front end. This Dart? The bizarre parts of this design have no point of beginning or ending – they just . . . are. Where the ’61 Impala’s styling elements come together to form a playground of delight, the ’61 Dart is the automotive version of The Twilight Zone.
We should not be surprised that a fouled up car might be the result of a fouled up styling department. Virgil Exner suffered a severe heart attack in 1956 (at the age of 46) and it appears that the 1961 cars happened during his extended illness. There are claims (on Allpar.com) that nobody was given charge during this period, which resulted in clay models of 1961 cars going straight to metal without the refinement that would probably have happened under normal circumstances. The better answer seems to be that there were too many cooks in the kitchen. Bill Schmidt was hired by management to run things during Exner’s open-ended absence, in part because of management’s feeling that second-in-charge Cliff Voss was too inexperienced. Schmidt had run Lincoln-Mercury design studios from 1945-55 and that of Packard until that studio was closed in 1956.
Chrysler’s 1960 models seem to have been at least gotten started under Exner’s watch during 1956, and therefore show at least a bit of coherence. But the 1961 cars were done under Schmidt’s control, however temporary and tenuous that control might have been. (Former stylist John Sampson has stated that Schmidt’s arrival led to rivalries between those partial to Exner and those who hoped Schmidt would stay.) There are precious few photos online of 1961 Plymouth or Dodge proposals, but this one (supposedly from 1958) shows something well along in planning and close to the actual tail end treatment for the higher-end Dodge Polara. Could it be that stylists saw this train wreck happening before the rest of us did and didn’t save many of these photos?
In contrast, there are many photos out there of the 1962 models being developed under Exner’s guidance following his return to work in late 1957. This one, for example, shows that the original proposal for the 1962 Plymouth was pretty well nailed down by July of 1959, and shows some fresh styling themes as developed with Exner back in the saddle. The disastrous crash re-start of the 1962 Plymouth and Dodge programs are another story for another day. It is tempting to conclude that the 1961 Dodge and Dart were Bill Schmidt’s attempts to graft his own ideas onto Virgil Exner’s concept, all done without the benefit of a translator. Schmidt’s version of a re-imagined third gear of the Forward Look was . . . ummmm . . . not successful, so it was probably a good thing that he left upon Exner’s return.
The mystery deepens when we consider the research of Peter Grist in his book Virgil Exner – Visioneer. In that account, when Exner returned from his convalescence, the 1961 models were too far along to be changed, and that both he and Bill Schmidt agreed that neither was very satisfied with the result. Cliff Voss had been in close contact with Exner during the latter’s absence, so did he and Exner share more credit/blame for these cars than other participants? John Samson’s recollections are of no help as he was in the DeSoto studio at the time and has professed ignorance of what was happening with the Dodges. The more conspiratorially minded among us could be forgiven for wondering if either the Exner camp or the Schmidt contingent engaged in an some attempts to sabotage the other’s career at Chrysler. I doubt that any of us will ever know what really went on in that Dodge studio as these cars were being designed. Ultimately, Exner has been the one to take history’s blame for these cars, whether fairly or not. As well as blame from Chrysler, as he was relieved of his duties while these cars were in showrooms.
And just when I thought I understood these Darts I learned that Chrysler added a second set of taillights in cars built beginning spring of 1961 (and offered a modification kit for dealer installation on older cars) after complaints about the ineffectiveness of the low-mounted taillights. There was perhaps but a single way to make a bad design worse and it appears that the boys at Chrysler Corporation found it. Or maybe these added taillights were just a sneaky way to make us appreciate the original design?
The buying public was not impressed. Sales were under 168,000 cars for the entire ’61 Dart line, including station wagons. Plymouth would manage to get nearly 199,000 cars out the door – which, for a line that had been selling between 400,000 and 600,000 for most of the previous decade, was not much to crow about. But lest you think Dodge was doing well, the entire Polara (“real Dodge”) line was good for only 14,000 more cars, likely the result of another intra-company killer: The Chrysler Newport, which was actually $5 cheaper than the Polara. By the end of 1961, it was clear that the Dart-as-a-shadow-Plymouth experiment was a dismal failure. In 1962 the Dart would be the anchor model of the standard Dodge (and an entirely different kind of dismal failure) before reinventing itself as a 1963 compact Dodge that would go on to be one of Chrysler’s most beloved cars of all time.
In 1961 few cars looked as good as the Chevrolet Impala. But none looked as bad as this one, which might mark the absolute trough of Chrysler’s styling (or any other American company’s postwar styling, for that matter.) Which is a tremendous shame, given this car’s many (well hidden) attributes. Is there a better contender for the title of the Anti-Impala? I couldn’t think of one either.
JP, great article!
I can see how these would have went over poorly but I love the drama of the design. The Polara was even cooler to me. That’s perhaps because I first saw facsimiles of both in GTA: San Andreas: the Oceanic had a similar front to the Dart, the Glendale had an almost identical rear to the Polara. Imagine my surprise when I found there were cars in real life that looked like them! The same game franchise gave me a strong appreciation for the ’74 Riviera, another styling dud, called the Idaho in the series.
I loved the Forward Look cars, these Halloween Era Mopars and then the crisp Engel cars of the mid-60s. The fact these drove better than the competition and had good power trains is icing on the cake!
Now, I am in the minority here, I guess, But I like this, Not in spite of its quirky looks, but because of them. It’s different. The 61 Chevy, is pretty much a 60 Chevy with its fins folded over the rear fenders. But, like all cars of this era, it’s just too damn long! They all had trunks big enough to stash bodies in.
I agree with you, it is my choice because of the quirky looks, not in spite of them. For better or worse, the Chrysler styling of the time actually fit the other artistic themes of the times better than the popular GM and Ford ideas. If you place the styling in the context of “modern art” and the beat movement, it works. This was a car for a fan of Dave Brubeck’s jazz, while the Impala was for those who liked Chuck Berry , and the Fords were for those who preferred the Nelson Riddle Orchestra. Neither is a bad choice, just different. Embrace the different, the odd, the choice that was made. You can either go with the masses, or you can go for something on the opposite edge.
The musical analogies are interesting. But then there is this . . . 🙂
Oddly, I had used originally used Lawrence Welk for the Ford choice instead of the NRO but changed my mind before posting. But, to answer the obvious, musical tastes and the cars that musicians pitch are usually wildly different. Led Zeppelin and Cadillac? Perhaps, but not exactly my first thought for a match. Yet there it was…the Breakthrough ad.
An idea isn’t responsible for who believes it, and a car isn’t responsible for whom its manufacturer has endorse it!
If I’d been of car-buying age ca. 1965 and wanted a car this size, I would have gotten one of these used, assuming that it had taken a hit in resale value. Quirky styling doesn’t bother me.
No surprise at all:
As a highway engineer who had to design urban highway driveways for those beasts, I agree, the rear overhang was huge. Then again, who knows how many buyers had to stash bodies?
I’m sorry, but all those folks who think the 61 Plymouth is THE ugliest American-built car….this car is much more deserving of the title….at least as a 2 door.
When I look at some of the pictures here, I’m put in mind of a puzzle of a large fish that has had its major parts forcefully re-arranged.
BTW, read the ad copy for the red car, it reads like it was written by a high school student. 2nd sentence: “It is a very successful car”. I’m not sure what measure of success they meant, but wouldn’t it be premature to call a car a success if you can’t quote sales figures or race wins?
Put me into the ‘tasteless’ category: I actually like the ’61 Dodge (prior to the additional taillights), finding the car attractive from the side, not bad from the rear, and “well, ok . . . . ” from the front. No, it’s nowhere as attractive as the ’61 Chevrolet (which, to me, is the marque’s best design of the 60’s, even beating out the ’62 and ’65).
And yes, over the past 40 years I’ve become a big fan of the ’62’s.
Obviously, I’m a lover of things that are different, and definitely not a fan of safe, conservative design. And I’m finding out that I’m becoming more and more of a fan of Chrysler’s designs from ’61-65 as I get older. Meanwhile, most of Chevrolet’s ’60’s designs barely hit on my radar anymore. Probably has something to do with spending the first half of the decade living in a Chevrolet dealership. Only Corvairs turn me on anymore.
I can get onboard with the Polara, but this Dart, not so much. Would I drive one? Absolutely. Could I sit in a folding chair in the driveway and stare at its complex lines for hours? You bet. But I just can’t make the leap to attractive on these Darts.
Chevrolet’s 60s designs are so clean and classic but perhaps we have all been overexposed to them. I have been coming to more of an appreciation of those lately, so I guess we are both still growing. 🙂
I had not realized that the 1961 GM bodied were significantly redesigned until I recently googled the B-bodies. But looking at the 4 door hardtops and 4 door pillared sedans compared to the 1959-60 versions there is a big change. Of course the 1961 Buick are so different from the 1960 models too.
Both the Dodge Dart and Polara models are evolutions of the 1960 Dodge styling. I can’t say that I like the looks, but then the 1962 Dodges are not really better either.
Count me squarely in this camp. Although I actually like the ’61 Plymouth more than the Dodge if for no other reason than that I view the Dodge as a bit boring when compared to the fantastic complexity of the Plymouth’s design.
My allegiance shifts in ’62 though, as I find the Dodge’s rather “unique” snout more interesting than that of its Plymouth cousin. In any event though, I’ve developed a very strong affinity for the late Exner Mopars.
I actually like the rear end of these. (at least without the add on lights) The side would be pretty good without the mismatched character lines.
The front though…
Its a perfectly good 1961 grill mated to a hoodline and cowl that are still up where they were in 1957. Maybe there’s a reason you are sitting on the floor in the Chevy?
On the other hand, I love the see through strip speedometer, although you could get that in a ’60 as well, which would be my pick.
> Its a perfectly good 1961 grill mated to a hoodline and cowl that are still up where they were in 1957.
I noticed that too, and the look reminds me of 1961-62 Rambler Classics that tried hard to disguise the tall 1956 body it was stuck with, needing to shed bulging ’50-style headlamps and replace them with ’60s-style grilles that had the headlamps down at grille level without looking like there were eyebrows or excessive sheet metal above the lights or grille. Likewise with ’64-’66 Studebaker Larks that (rather successfully IMO) adopted ’60s styling cues despite being stuck with a 1953 body. Both of these cars had to thin down and reshape their pillars, muck with the cowls, slice off the fins, and straighten the fenders out to make their mid-’50s cars look like their ’60s competitors. But Dodge doesn’t really have this excuse because they were working with a body that was only one year old in 1961.
One minor correction.
The Dodge 383 was a B, not RB engine.
The B family went 350, 361, 383 & 400.
The RBs were the 413, 426 & 440. They were slightly taller and all had a longer stroke. There was an oddball RB 383, but it was only made for a year or two, and I believe only for Chryslers.
Those two 383s still confuse me. I had understood that the 59-60 Chrysler/Desoto 383 was the bastard oddball while the Dodge 383 became the one we all know and love. You are right, the RB 383 was the dead end while the B 383 was the one that became famous.
Wow, the B only added 50 cu in over its run, an increase of 14%; the RB only 27 / 6.5%. The smaller LA went 273, 318, 340, 360 – a gain of 87 cu in, and 32%!
Always amazed me Chrysler bowed out of the big-block wars after 1966. No 454, 460, 472. or 500 for them. Find it hard to believe there was no more room in the block.
Was there any reason to make them bigger? Any of them a 340 couldn’t beat, a 440 usually could. And if it couldn’t, a 426 Street Hemi could and did.
Ford and GM did indeed believe bigger was better. Chrysler was selling intermediate Satellites and Coronets that did everything the competitions’ full sized models did, and Darts that did everything the competitions’ intermediate did.
That wasn’t appreciated by the public at the time. But after the OPEC embargo of 1973, Ford and GM sure appreciated Chrysler for showing them how to build efficient engines and space-efficient bodies!
I greatly enjoyed this well-written article. It presents an interesting chapter in automotive history between the so-so but solid Chrysler products of the 1950s and the highly successful cars produced by the company in the late 1960s and early 1970s. We had a white Polara of the same vintage and much the same look as the Dart. As a 16 year old kid living in suburban Kansas City who just got his driver’s license, I was given the keys of the Polara and told I could take it out for a drive. My parents were surprised when I returned a great many hours later, having decided that I would take a solo road trip to Omaha. Ugliness aside, I have true affection for that old car and this article brought back some memories of times and people long passed.
Great read! Also good for some serious laugh-out-loud moments, like the Twilight Zone shot–nailed it!
One interesting thing to me about your compare and contrast of these cars is how it highlights the simple lesson (oft forgotten) about the importance of design in selling cars. So much of GM’s dominance over such a long period of time was due to the fact that their cars were usually very timely and good looking. The ’61 Chevy is a great case in point–it was a sophisticated styling job that looked more expensive than its market positioning.
And then there was the Dodge. Deadly Sin #1 was even putting a Dodge in that “Low Price” segment–you could argue that the move, all the way back in 1961, sounded the death knell for Plymouth. Mopar’s brand hierarchy was broken, and would never come together again… Of course the other Deadly Sin was the Dart’s styling.
I am a Virgil Exner fan (and Visioneer is a great read). By all accounts it seems clear that the design of these cars was caught up in a political mess, during a tumultuous time for the company. I believe Exner’s greatest strength was his sense of proportion. If you omit the weird fins and lumps on the Dart, it is a great looking basic shape–the roofline is actually gorgeous (reminds me of today’s BMW 6 Series coupe). If only the design details had been cleaner…then the car, with its engineering strengths, could well have been successful (IF Mopar could have built them right) and significantly changed the dynamic of the American car industry.
The level of dysfunction in Chrysler management after the retirement of K T Keller in 1956 is an endless source of fascination for me. The Lynn Townsend era (most of it, anyway) was also a mess, but at least the kind of mess I can understand. The Colbert-Newburg period is just a head-scratcher.
I think it was a case of Colbert trying to change a corporation with a history of very strong central control that was also burdened with top management that had too little understanding of the importance of marketing and styling. Colbert was trying to decentralize Chrysler’s structure to push more control to the divisional level, while giving styling more control over the final product.
That was a huge cultural change, and obviously one that he didn’t complete master.
During the early postwar years, it seems as though Chrysler corporate management was sleep-walking – particularly regarding the lack of a fully automatic transmission and the continued school-bus styling. It’s also amazing to me that no one seemed too alarmed when Plymouth fell really far behind Ford by 1950 (considering that Plymouth had come very close to ousting Ford from the number-two spot in 1940).
Let’s also add K.T Keller who insisted to keep the old stodgy design a bit too long because of his too cautious approach after the Airflow bust and decided to hire Virgil Exner to fix the design problem. Some ponder what if Walter Chrysler had chosen Joe Frazer instead of K.T. Keller if things would had been different?
That’s an interesting possibility. Funny, I was just musing that if Kaiser had listened to Frazier and pulled back in 1949, and also junked the Henry J and offered a 2 door hardtop and a convertible in ’51. followed by a V-8 with some room to grow in ’53, things might have worked out differently for Kaiser – and Frazier. Still could have merged with Willys in ’53 & maybe tied up with American Motors later…
I agree that the roofline of this Dodge is finely proportioned and stands in glaring contrast to the busy body below. The contrast with GM’s ability to use design (and engineering) to differentiate its entire lineup into five finely graded divisions is spot on, too. Perhaps Chrysler’s historic emphasis on engineering led to the development of blind spots on the importance of design as a marketing tool. Chrysler’s clumsy attempts to fill the gap left behind by the demise of the DeSoto seemed to hurt not only Dodge but also Chrysler. Why didn’t they attempt to elevate Dodge’s market position to lower upper-middle as opposed to downgrading it to upper low-price? Or, in the case of Chrysler and the Newport, cheapen the brand by competing in the middle middle instead of the upper-middle price segment? These are the complexities that only a first class marketing operation can execute successfully.
Chrysler had too many product lines, and had since buying Dodge Brothers.
The front grille and headlight is so very like the Ford GB’s 1962-6 Zodiac, though Ford managed not to make it look droopy.
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That was exactly my first impression as well, and the 63 Dodge Dart reminds me of 1st Ford Cortina
Call me crazy, or blame the fact I haven’t stuck my contact lenses into my head yet this morning, but I can’t help but be smitten with these.
Are there awkward areas? Sure are. However, this car is a non-traditional beauty for an audience that could be considered non-traditional – they were buying a Dodge, weren’t they? It’s the brand that doesn’t even merit mention in the age-old childhood argument of Ford vs. Chevrolet that was so common through the mid-80s (from my experience, at least).
The white on this Dodge does it no favors; a different color or even a two-tone would do wonders for it. Yet it still possesses an exotic beauty that is quite refreshing.
This is yet another instance (among many in the ’60s-’70s Mopar family) in which the four-door version was simply better proportioned and executed than the two-door hardtop.
I so agree that this car looks so much better as a 4 door, even a 4 door sedan or wagon. Heck, even the more upright 2 door sedan can look better than that white 2 door hardtop, but I’m beginning to wonder if some of the “problem” is that the white Dodge looks so stubby in the picture while the red car in the ad looks so elegant.
Hats off to the Chrysler engineers. They seem to have been the best in that era or maybe Chrysler just gave them room to do their best. Their body, suspension, chassis, engine, transmission, etc. accomplishments were superb.
Just imagine what a disaster this Dodge would have been if the engineering was mediocre.
Hats off to JP too for another fine writeup.
Far and away the best…Extra Care In Engineering was NOT just a slogan! Sadly, many of the best things they made were not marketed well (or at all!), and are not widely known. (Offhand, making any torsion bar Chrysler a corner carver-even by today’s standards-is not at all difficult.) Four years after Chrysler switched to alternators, some Ford and GM cars still had generators.
Another example: the front wheel bearings. It might have been easier to use a castle nut, rather than the plain nut, cover, and cotter pin they used…but that just wouldn’t have been as good.
Didn’t Chrysler cars of that era also use left-threaded lug nuts on the driver’s side of the car – just to be sure that there would be no tendency for them to unscrew themselves?
Yes, until 1970.
Excellent read!
The front end of these look somehow depressed or saddened with the knowledge of what was to follow as it drove by the casual viewer.
The back end would have looked a whole lot better without the swoopy wing atop the quarter panel. Your 3/4 rear views showed that to me the best.
Words escape me to describe the dash. It looks like three or four engineers designed the various clusters, buttons, and displays, and it came out looking incohesive. It looks more like a bunch of designs that got stuck together at the 11th hour just in time to go to production. Did anyone even do a comparison of the steering wheel appearance on top of the busy-ness of that dash? Standing back 3 feet should have gotten the message across.
All in all a great article about a car that mostly lost its way style-wise, and consumers appeared to have figured that out as they stopped at their Chevy dealers with chequebooks in hand. Hey, the ’61 Ford styling shows a pretty clean design, more of what the Dart could have been without its drug inspired lines.
I started this article thinking I quite liked the styling of the Dart, but by the end I was with JP. It’s bad, all over.
But you can see (well, I can see) bits of British Fords in it – the roof line of the Consul Capri and the front end of the Zephyr/Zodiac Mk3. Thankfully, not the full side profile or the rear end though
Yeah I never minded these we only had fourdoor versions and of course they blended into traffic quite well being so similar to the UK Fords from the front, not many left though probably more recent imports that NZ assembled examples surviving.
Our family car in the mid-1960s was a black ’61 Dodge four-dour sedan, with blackwalls. Kinda spartan, except for the push-button automatic (I don’t recall A/C in that machine). It had the low, horizontal tail lights. I always loved the looks of that car. I also loved the ’61 Impala, which might be my favorite big-car design of all time. So, I guess you can be a fan of both design directions. I love the Dodge’s sweeping front grille, especially.
A great article. One of two of these will pop up at the Chryslers at Carlisle show every year, and it’s always a treat to see them.
Dodge got the Dart in 1960 because Chrysler Corporation took away Plymouth franchises from Dodge dealers. Since the Great Depression, Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler dealers had each been given Plymouths to sell. This helped carry them through the Depression, and fueled Plymouth’s rise to the number-three slot by the early 1930s.
In the more prosperous postwar era, it was hurting Plymouth, as most dealers tried to move prospects up after selling them one or two Plymouths. Plus, as Ford and Chevrolet began moving upmarket, Plymouth was hampered, as it shared showroom space with cars that had more prestigious nameplates. This was a big reason that the Plymouth VIP never gained serious traction in the late 1960s, even as Ford was selling every LTD it could make.
The original Dart was a consolation to Dodge dealers, who still wanted a low-price car to sell. It succeeded for one year – Dodge set a sales record for 1960. Unfortunately, it also took a big bite out of Plymouth sales, and then blurred Dodge’s image in the market (Was it a low-price car? Or still a step up from Plymouth?).
The Valiant was supposed to placate Plymouth Division, but it was initially sold as a separate marque for 1960. When Chrysler management realized that sales of the full-size Plymouth were not sufficient to keep the marque in third place, Valiant sales were added to the division’s total, and the car officially became a Plymouth for the 1961 model year.
Also, if you look at ads and sales literature for the 1960 models, the Dart is compared to “Car C,” “Car F” and “Car P!” At least by 1961 Dodge had ended the direct comparisons to Plymouth, as your article notes.
According to retired Chrysler stylist and historian Jeff Godshall in an Automobile Quarterly article in the early 1990s, the original plan for the 1961 Dodge’s rear quarters was to shave the fins off the 1960 model. But there was a dispute between the head of the Dodge Division and styling, and the 1961 Dart we see here was the result. If Exner was sick during this time, it could explain why styling wasn’t able to win that battle.
As for the comparison to the contemporary Chevrolet – in one vintage photo taken in my hometown in the early 1960s, a 1961 Dodge Dart four-door hardtop is parked directly behind a 1962 Chevrolet Impala four-door hardtop along the main street. One looks like a tasteful, handsome contemporary design, and one looks like a 1950s car as interpreted by someone from outer space. Torsion bars and unibody construction weren’t enough to overcome that handicap.
In all of the tunnels I was burrowing into trying to unravel the styling mystery, I had forgotten about the dealer angle. Chrysler’s brand structure had completely imploded by 1961. With most of their volume coming from a Plymouth clone and a Chrysler Newport encroaching from above, it is a wonder that Dodge survived when DeSoto was axed. I had also forgotten that Dodge re-used that front clip for the 1962 Dodge Custom 880, essentially a 62 Chrysler Newport. The 880 might have been a real sales breakout if not for that awful front end. One Chrysler stylist was reported to have compared the look to an ingrown toenail. 🙂
On the dealer situation, its worth noting that many Dodge dealers were still stand-alone operations into the 1960‘s, something that carried forward from the pre-Chrysler buyout of Dodge Brothers in 1928. Dodge, which was already a well-established lower-middle-priced marque for fourteen years by then, allowed Plymouth (initially a re-badge of the four cylinder Chrysler 52) to be slotted in underneath as the low-priced challenger for Ford and Chevrolet . Given that most Dodge dealers were already firmly established, many did not take on the Plymouth franchise, simply because it was an unknown quantity and more expense without assurance of return. Low-priced companion make additions by middle-priced producers had a spotty record of success; Pontiac an exception.
To fulfill W.P. Chrysler’s version of the Sloan ladder, the Desoto was created to fill a lower-medium-priced slot, even as the Dodge Brothers purchase was being negotiated, then instantly became superfluous with that purchase. Oddly enough from it’s 1929 introduction through the 1933 MY, Desoto was priced between Plymouth and Dodge. Beginning in 1933, Dodge stepped down-market with its six, Desoto moving up in position it would largely hold to the end.
To rectify this muddled problem of an unnecessary make which the established Dodge dealers eschewed, Plymouth was paired with primarily a Desoto or Chrysler franchise, broadening their market coverage, something even more important as the Depression grip took hold, adversely affecting all marques. Dodge Brothers cars were viewed as superior to Plymouth in quality and stature, had a full line of commercial vehicles to bolster that perception. Desoto, on the other hand, was an upstart, quickly became viewed as a “cut-rate” Chrysler Six: better than a Plymouth, nearly a Chrysler but less pretentious or prestigious, “a good, modest (if unexciting) value”.
Throughout this period, a high percentage of top Chrysler managers cut their teeth at the Dodge division; K.T. Keller and L.L. “Tex” Colbert being the primary examples. True at other levels too, ergo the power and influence in the company revolved around what Dodge management wanted. Plymouth took Dodge’s hand-me-down mechanicals and even bodies. Interchangeability gave low unit costs for both makes, though higher unit profits from Dodges. By the late 1950’s, the Dodge division was pushing hard to expand its segment price coverage, even at the expense of Plymouth and Desoto. Had this been Mercury or Pontiac managements aggressively pushing for Ford or Chevrolet blood, they would have had their hands slapped. Feckless Mercury’s attempt was rescued by Comet for its effort. Pontiac’s approach let both it and Chevrolet succeed without stepping on each other’s toes too much. Dodge management, greedy for more, both undid Plymouth and ultimately their own division over the succeeding years. The Dodge/Plymouth market chaos that top management enabled rendering neither truly affective against the competition that was still framed by the Sloan ladder for another two decades, witness the Custom 880 “band-aid“ to repair just one of the blunders. But for a short time, the idea of a Dodge Dart for only twenty dollars more than a Plymouth held great appeal for those determined to get “more car for their money”, though it really wasn’t.
Valiant as a stand-alone make for the 1960 MY created an unintended opportunity. Although it many have been simply an omission, a Buffalo area dealer in 1960 listed “Dodge – Valiant” as their merchandise. His dealership may well have been one of those long-term, stand-alone franchises, one which generated enough volume so the district sales office accommodated his demand for their hot new compact. Of course, the Dodge Division demanded their own version, got Lancer for 1961-’62.….a better compact car…..of course, because it was a Dodge!
Great article on one of the most bizarrely-styled Mopars during the Exner-to-Engel transition, thanks!
I can’t help but to think that some of today’s stylists are channeling a bit of the design dysfunction apparent on this Dart. Nissan seems to have adopted the flair of the “chicken wing” reverse fin/bulge…
While Toyota has taken rear-end styling a tortured tail light shapes to lows not even imaginable in the early 1960s…
And of course Toyota also wins the overall “WTF?!?!? Award” for styling in general, like this 21st Century beauty. Seems that dreadful lines, nonsensical angles and awful detailing are making a comeback…
Agreed, I am now starting to understand how new car buyers reacted when these Mopars were hitting showrooms. “Wow, that’s different, but I suppose that’s where things are going.” In 50 or 60 years, maybe someone will write something ripping the styling of these new cars.
People are ripping the styling of these new cars today. Just not the automotive press.
Then maybe cars will be better looking in 50 – 60 years.
OTOH….
Happy Motoring, Mark
I guess you guys back in 2017 missed the C-HR which had come out by then but is now thankfully a thing of the past. IMO it makes the Dart look tasteful. OK I always liked them although the front fender sculpture and trim misalignment seems like an easy thing for them to have avoided. And the Polara, being more out there and dramatic besides avoiding the mismatch, is even better.
C-HR
You know, some think the 1961 Chevy models were over-styled. Well, when they look at one of these, the 1961 Chevy is downright beautiful!
I feel the design is right in some aspects, and seriously overdone in others, making a general mish-mash of a car. I do admire the complexity of the dash design, however, and it must have been expensive as all get-out. I’m surprised Ford didn’t call Chrysler demanding its Fairlane grille back!
I wonder if some designer, if not Exner himself, was affected by “Forbidden Planet”, and that movie stayed in his head? Too early for “The Jetsons”?
I wonder if Chrysler got their quality issues from the late ’50s straightened out by this time?
More questions than answers about these cars, for sure!
On quality, my understanding is that these cars were better than the worst of 1957-58 but still not what they should have been. This was the era of supplier bribes and kickbacks at Chrysler so there were likely a lot of substandard parts getting into these cars. When Lynn Townsend took over in 1962 there was a fresh (if temporary) push for quality which resulted in the 5 year/50,000 mile warranty of 1963.
I forgot to mention, JP, this is an outstanding and enjoyable article. Thank you.
My dad owned a 1960 Dodge Phoenix 4 door hardtop that came from the factory with a failed weld in the door pillar between front/rear door…this resulted in Dodge having to replace both doors and reweld the pillar at their expense. I also bought a 1960 Dodge Seneca 4 door sedan in the late 60’s…the door windows did not have secure latch clips as the glass was just pressure fitted into the window register trough…driving down the road one day both rear windows simply dropped down into the doors…that was fun 😉
Bravo! A great find and a greater write-up. This chunk of Chrysler history has been neglected here at CC, and you’ve done it justice.
Your comparison with the Impala is particularly apt, as I arrived in the US as a 7 year old in the fall of 1960 as both of these were just appearing. Needless to say, the Impala (and the other GM ’61s) quickly made me a GM acolyte.
I really struggled with these ’61 Dodges and Plymouths. I guess I wasn’t the only one; the designers were struggling with them too. There’s no question that ’61 was a nadir for these two brands, design-wise, but they did make the streetscape more colorful.
In the summer of 1966, my father and I took a camping trip in his Opel Kadett A down in the Appalachian mountains of West Virginia and North Carolina. I distinctly remember a Dart hardtop like this one, with dual exhausts and oversize wheels and tires, passing us and being driven like a moonshine runner through the winding mountain roads. I can still hear the beat of its barely-muffled exhaust as it roared ahead. These kind of cars were common in that part of the world, where its inner qualities were appreciated fully, and folks probably didn’t give a damn about the weird styling details.I will associate these forever to that part of the world.
JPC, that’s a very informative *and* entertaining article—I’ll doubtless read it again yet today.
Re the comparison with the ’61 Chevy (inner/outer beauty), there’s an old French proverb, something like “the more you look at a beautiful woman, the less she is beautiful; the more you look at an ugly woman, the less she is ugly.” I can see that the Chevy’s ergonomics were sacrificied for its outer appearance, while the Dart had lots to offer under its unified skin.
And who among us knew about the add-on tail light kit? For the insanely curious, there are a few on eBay; this pic shows the MoPar assembly diagram: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VARY-RARE-HARD-TO-FIND-NOS-MOPAR-1961-DODGE-REAR-TAIL-LIGHT-ASSEMBLY-/181905937851?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
George, the things you find amaze me to no end!
^^^^You’re a kind gentleman, JPC. If you’re ever looking for a research aide (not that you need one), just ask….I love the challenge.
BTW, I never appreciated what a step-up it was when Detroit switched from generators to alternators–this ad for the 61’s really brings it home:
And Chrysler was first…the 1060 Valiant, then across the board in 1961. Other cars came with generators to at least 1963 and I think 64.
Imagine the typical Dodge customer who bought a tri-toned ’55 “Forward Look” Dodge, then a toothy ’57 Custom Royal, traded for the jet-finned, scowling ’59 Destroyer-mobile, followed by the mutant ’61 with inter-galactic dashboard, to be replaced by a…”sane and plain” ’63 Dart or 880? What a letdown!
Don’t forget the 1961 full-sized Fords. One of the all-time classics in my book.
A beautiful car indeed, probably the one most predictive of the actual (as opposed to imagined) future. What an incredible selection of styles was available to the new car buyer of 1961.
I think 1960-61 is one of those periods where styling was in flux but nobody really knew where it was going, sort of like 1947-50 or 1933-34. Then something shows the way and everyone else joins the flow.
That’s a great observation – and a great article, which I’ll comment more fully on later.
I’d even extend the period through 1962, not only to include the new Plymouth and Dodge, but also some mish-mashes of old and new that don’t quite work – like the crisper lower body of the ’62 Chevy and the “bubble top” 2 door hardtop.
It’s strictly anecdotal, but it seemed to me as a kid back then that the Fords of this vintage were more likely to be lower trim levels. And they didn’t look so hot. Obviously your family was somewhat of an exception.
Especially given that it was a hasty redo of the ’60 which came in over the 80″ max width for a passenger vehicle (then agreed on among the states before being taken into FMVSS). All the states had agreed to look the other way for *one* model year but narrowing the ’61s was a prime objective.
Bravo JPC, entertaining and captivating piece on a car I previously had no particular interest in. But I think your reference to Prius vs Ford King Ranch betrays your Midwestern roots. In Portland last week I saw a “One Less Prius” bumper sticker …. on a Chevy Spark EV. It’s all relative. And by the way, I just loved the Dodge dash. The front end, not so much. But still better than a Mirai, though that may change when revisited in 50 years, though I doubt I’ll be alive.
That bumper sticker on the EV is cute. Our Prius has been parked nearly all the time now that I drive an electric Fiat 500e. (Lily always drives her adored Mini Cooper S.) Except of course when we took the dogs to the coast. And when we went to Eastern Oregon.
This weekend might be a good time to go to the coast. Sunday is forecast to be 100 degrees.
A fine read and a great exploration of one of the darker corners of automotive styling and design. CC has given me an enhanced appreciation for the 1961 Impala, especially the gorgeous black and white photo of the the two-door hardtop shown in the Chevy dealership in Eugene. This Dodge was clearly designed under a full moon, but by placing it in the context of the times, you have given me new perspective on how style-conscious buyers would view these choices in 1961. And, you didn’t say, but am I correct to assume that Ford buyers would have been the most conservative new car shoppers of that time?
An excellent point about Ford’s conservatism. Some time I would like to compare what I view as the two bastions of automotive conservatism of that time – Ford and Studebaker. In 1962 one was selling you an upper level sedan whose automatic shifter worked with an exposed shift tube from 1946 while the other was selling you a personal grand tourer with pedals sticking up through the floor. Both of them with left-handed ignition keys. 🙂
Funny thing about Ford and Studebaker. When I was a car-obsessed third grader, my folks looked at the Lark, but traded their 1955 Studebaker Champion with a six, three on the tree, no radio and that horrible chrome front end, for a sleek new 1961 Ford Sunliner convertible, black with a white top, 352 V8, three-speed Cruise-o-matic and yes, a radio. I was in heaven.
By the way, I just had to go back and look at that dash picture again. Does anyone else see ’58 TBird rear end there?
Not until just now . . .
I loved the roof-line on these.
Except for the straight-on view of the rear, I’m OK with the reverse-fins.
Those bulbous front fenders are hopeless though!
As for early ’60s full-size Fords, my favorite is still the ’60.
Even the ’60 Edsel, except for the goofy tail-lights!
It’s too bad FoMoCo had to wait until ’61 to introduce the rest of their restyled lineup.
Happy Motoring, Mark
Great write up and fascinating comments. I learn so much from you guys!
I just remembered that a friend of my older brother drove a hand-me-down ’61 Dart sedan in Towson. He was a ham (amateur radio) like my brother, and the Dart sported a couple of those crazy long whip antennas (8 meter?) on the rear bumper that had to be bent down and clipped to the roof. He was a total geek, his dad was an engineer, and the Dart suited him perfectly. I remember riding with them to a spot up on a high ridge for field day, which was the hams’ version of a wild party weekend. 🙂
Field Day is this weekend. It’s an emergency preparedness exercise where hams get their gear up in a field location with generator or solar power, to make sure they can provide communications in case some disaster takes the power down. It’s also a great excuse to go out in the country with your buddies, stay up all night and drink beer in the summertime. 73 de KC7IT.
It was my first all-nighter! Although I probably fell asleep at some point, despite the roar of the generator. Solar power sounds like a most welcome improvement. I have happy memories of that night, and the excitement of my brother and his friend making contact with hams all over, including far-away countries.
There’s always another ham around it seems! 73 de KC9L.
This is a classic comment. When I was a kid there was a bachelor (surprise) who lived 4 or 5 houses down from my grandparents. His car and especially his garage, were festooned with antennae of all shapes and sizes, aimed in all directions. He’d be hunched over a table full of transistors and diodes under a dim bulb until all hours of the night, and his detached garage was known to emanate all manner of weird noises. I was endlessly fascinated by the whole thing as a 5 year old. My grandfather gave stern warnings to “Don’t go anywhere near that lunatic. He still thinks he’s talking to Sputnik. He’s moving to Mars next year, and good riddance.”
Are those of us who sit at computer screens “talking” to umpteen people we have never actually met the ham radio operators of the new millennium? Technology has finally progressed to where you don’t have to be an electronics geek with a soldering iron always handy to partake in this sort of thing.
And fortunately general knowledge and understanding have improved to the point where at least we’re not blamed every time some old grouch’s TV signal goes a little wonky.
I’ll always remember that whenever a distant thunderstorm caused a little snow on his TV screen my grandfather would shake his fist in the direction of his neighbor’s house and mumble stuff like, “Son of a…”
I’ve gotten decades of entertainment out of some of this stuff.
“Prius Hybrid and the F-250 King Ranch”
Back in early 60’s it was VW Bug vs. Detroit iron.
On “Mad Men” Don Draper had a ’62 Custom 880, with the same ‘sad face’. Storyline had him wreck the car in a DUI, showing it flip it over.
Great article! I think the ’61 Dart is a car that’s fallen between the cracks for me — I never realized how ungainly its styling appears.
What’s odd to me is that the 1960 Dart was a good-looking car for its day, was a good concept, and (as far as I know) sold very well. Probably better than it’s Plymouth “competition.” What’s puzzling to me is why Dodge would take the car in such a vastly different direction style-wise after only one year… seems like freshening up the 1960 design would have been easier, cheaper, and ultimately better for the company.
Yes, the ’60 Dodge looked good. But that was because it still looked like a 1957 Dodge. Chrysler designs were so far ahead in 1957 that the Plymouth tag line was, “Suddenly it’s 1960! Dodge’s in 1960 could have been, ” It’s still 1957!”
Clearly, the Forward Look Dodge needed to move forward. It’s just a shame it didn’t move forward in a better direction.
That said, that face didn’t look any worse than the very similar 1961 Buick. Flint had a bad year too.
Were trying to shake that “looks like a 50’s model” look when this one came around.
That , they may have achieved.
Eric703 et al,
Don’t you wonder about the management systems that brought you these “mismatched” cars? the ’57 and ’58 Lincoln following the ’56, the ’61 Plymouth, this Dodge…it’s not like the car companies didn’t have almost unlimited funds. How did this happen? I’ve always been interested in the process that allows amazing amounts of money to be spent to create something that would have been better just left alone, this Dodge being a prime example. The ’60 was contemporary, spend tens of millions and…this?
Great post.
‘Objective’ styling assessments aside, you could also muse that Chrysler produced precisely the wrong design at the wrong time. With JFK arriving in the White House and Jackie’s sophisticated elegance on front pages around the planet, the sense of what constituted style was changing rapidly.
While the sleek and lean Impala may not have actually made it into the White House garage, it would be hard to imagine elegant Jackie even considering being seen in the ‘melty bulges’ (wonderful phrase!) of the Dodge. The shapeless pants & dresses of the Eisenhower era were officially banished. Suddenly it was 1961.
Jackie was driven around all the time in a 1960 Imperial Ghia limousine, even at JFK’s funeral – the Imperial was a far cry from the 1961 Lincoln.
I hate it when facts get in the way of my cultural theories. 🙂
I hate it too…but since the onset of the era of “alternative facts” we’d better watch out!
Here in a poignant scene.
The ’60 Dodge was a hit, taking Plymouth’s customers, and then they were never that popular in the full size field.* The ’65 Fury was a home run, but Dodge then was known for Dart, Coronet and Charger 1965-73. At same time, Polaras were known as “cop cars”, Monaco never challenged Buick, Olds, or Mercury.
Big Fury sold well until ’73, then dropped off with the Oil Crisis.
*Someone pointed this out in another CC posting.
You are correct, although there was a bit of rebound through 1965 after the fiascos of ’61 and ’62. Dodge’s success in the mid to late 60s came from compacts, and especially intermediates.
Curiously, the same was true for Pontiac, where large car sales declined noticably from 1965 on. Could it be that full-size car buyers weren’t into the performance message the brands were promoting? Proabably, as their decline coincided with the rise of the Brougham Era, and neither Dodge nor Pontiac really pulled off a successful “luxury” model. (Monaco? Grand VIlle?)
Beauty and the Beast. If the Beast’s beautiful engineering and drivetrain had the Beauty’s body style, this would have been one hell of a car.
Nice write up, it does appear the car was styled by too many people all sharing the same Acid.
A friend of my dad had a ’61, and held onto it until it fell apart. Even as a kid I knew it was strange looking.
Am I the only one who thinks the back end, especially in the last photo, looks like Marie’s sculpture from “Everybody Loves Raymond?” Ha Ha, now you can’t unsee it!
I may have posted this before, but a ’61 Dodge was owned by the son* of a lil’ old lady in my old neighbohood. The only words out of her mouth were “get off the grass”.
*Would come to visit/checkup on her. When he got a ’68 Coronet, we all thought it was the coolest car, what a change.
Not only did Dodge use the ‘Dart’ name as a prefix for all 3 lines of their new cars in ’61, they also used it for that one year on their new light-duty trucks. Although I have always been a fan of the ’61-’71 Dodge D series trucks, the first couple of years the styling was equally bizarre as the Dart cars. It is very interesting to look at the evolution of the styling of the ’61-’71 Dodge trucks, Chrysler really toned them down over the years with not much more than hood, grille, and trim changes.
JPC tells a great Inside Chrysler story, but perhaps misses what a successful car the ’60 Dart was; it sold 306,603 units that first year, besting the Polara / Matador (42,517) by better than 7 to 1 and nipping at the heels of Pontiac. The clean, directional lines (esp. from sides and rear) nearly sold a 318 sedan to my Dad, a Ford guy, and Chrysler could’ve saved zillions in pointless re-tooling costs by just shaving off the fins for 1961:
JPC’s contention that the ’61 Impala belongs in some kind of design Hall of Fame might be understandable if the car had showed up for 1959…and if there hadn’t been a ’61 Pontiac or arrow-profile ’61 Buick (both of which avoided the chrome-outlined color spears on the Chevy, already a cliche), the finless M-B 220SE coupe which bowed in ’61, or Elwood Engel’s masterpiece ’61 Lincoln Continental…
Granted that design judgment is highly subjective (a point underlined by JPC’s use of Twilight Zone’s “Eye of the Beholder” still), the numbers may tell us something. The underwhelmingly-styled ’61 Ford outsold Chevy for the first time since 1957, and the clean-sided Buick (a relief after the ’60 model, which looked to have been modeled in cake batter) was the only GM to better its 1960 sales. The figures over at Dodge, however, were crushing. There seems no way of getting around the fact that Dodge had a winner in their 1960 line, and Chrysler would’ve been better off spending all that ’61 tooling cost on disc brakes and better rust prevention…
The 60 Dart did indeed sell well, but the other half of that picture is that Plymouth’s 1960 sales (not including Valiant, which wasn’t a Plymouth yet) dropped to 243,000 from 417,000 in 1959. DeSoto dropped to about 29,000 cars in 1960 from 47,000 in 1959. Dodge had sold about 150K in 1959, so its jump to 350K in 1960 was about 200 K units. Which was barely more than the 192K sales drop for Plymouth and DeSoto. The Dart was pure cannibalism, created (as Geeber noted in a comment above) to satisfy Dodge dealers who no longer had Plymouth to sell. Note also that Dodge DeSoto and Plymouth had combined sales of 1,064K in 1950 (compared to 621K in 1960).
Dodge was undoubtedly at least a bit of a bright spot in 1960, but a bright spot in the middle of a long, slow disaster for the corporation as a whole.
On the 1961 Ford v. Chevy thing, I have to disagree with your figures. Ford may have outsold Chevrolet in 1961, but only did so because of the 475K that the Falcon brought to the table. The standard Ford was good for about 775K in sales, far below the standard Chevrolet’s 1.2M. I also agree that the 61 Impala had a lot of brightwork (it was, after all, Harley Earl’s swan song) but I still think it comes off crisp and light compared to the competition, and created a basic shape that Bill Mitchell could clean up into a great looking car for the rest of its model cycle. I made the point in an earlier comment that these 1961 models (that were getting designed in 1957-58) came out of a period where everyone was looking for the next big thing. Lincoln, as it turns out, was the one to spot it.
You quote a ’61 Chevy figure of 1,300k for just the big cars, but my source on Chevy vs. Ford (wikimedia) gives a total of 1,318,014 for all Chevs (including 255,804 Corvairs) and 1,338,190 Fords (including 474,241 Falcons). So you’re right in that the Big Chevy still outsold the Big Ford by an amount roughly equal to all those Corvairs. My point was that if the Impala was a groundbreaking design (I feel it was almost as tentative and compromised as that year’s Fords), it failed to overcome the Corvair’s sales deficit vs the Falcon. Too bad that Corvair family didn’t take off like the Monza subset, as the Corvair is unique among GM designs from this period as a design game changer, just now being recognized:
The games it changed, however, were over at Fiat, NSU and BMW…
And I realize, too, that the most adventurous, prescient pieces of industrial design don’t always win a large audience. One need only compare the Avanti with the Camaro…
I agree about shaving off the fins of the Dart and Polara for 1961, it would had been a cool design. Maybe an artist somewhere can photoshop a 1960 or 1961 Dodge photo how it would had look without fins.
JP,
That’s the point, decent/good looking Cryco cars sold well, styling disasters didn’t. The ’60 Dart cannibalized the Plymouth because it looked relatively normal vs. the Plymouth and was a “Dodge”.
When I was a little kid in rural NW Ohio, our neighbor had a sky blue (light blue) Pioneer 4-door sedan. I have no idea what drive train was in it. I liked the color, and that it was called a Pioneer.
Personally, I’d go for the ’61 Plymouth. The design emulated the styling of Japan’s Prince Motors before Nissan brought them in ’66, look at a Michelotti-styled ’64 Gloria (which was sold in Canada in limited numbers) Which should’ve been a logical styling choice if Chrysler had followed that route. My 1961 Sport Fury ragtop gets good looks from Lexus owners every time I drive ’round Kelowna. Kinda wished Prince should’ve knocked on Chrysler’s door and helped get them on their feet. BTW, Exner’s son brought a Canadian market Gloria in Montreal in 1964.
So, we have proved that the ’61 Dodge Dart was far and away a better car than the ’61 Chevy, right? Well . . . perhaps to the ten five percent of buyers who prize function above all else. As for the rest who care about how their car looks? Perhaps not.
My Aunt had been a repeat Plymouth buyer, first the 50 that I recreated the 60 year old pic on FB a couple weeks ago, and a 56. She was in the market again in 61. Wanted to go with another Plymouth, but simply could not stand the looks of the thing.
She went with a 61 Chevy wagon. When she went shopping again in 65, she went back to Plymouth, a Fury III wagon.
While the Darts acquired a second set of taillights to augment the low, bumper-level set, the Polara had a bigger problem in that when viewed from nearly any angle other that straight on, only one taillight was visible. That can be seen in the image above of the clay mock-up and production four door hardtop in blue and white.
Although I don’t think it was a factory fix for the problem, one ’61 Polara I encounter years ago had what appeared to be two sets of the reverse light housings mounted out toward the corners in that same panel but with red lens. Presumably an addition made by the friendly Dodge dealer trying to satisfy an unhappy customer about the safety and visibility of his new ’61 Polara’s taillights.
1961 Dodge: Bizarre then, bizarre now!
The ‘Sad Sack’ front end of the 1961 Dodge always bugged me-maybe if someone swapped the front clip of the 1961 Desoto in its place? Bizarre, still, but in a different direction.
Low seat, high steering wheel (which I never noticed in my ’63 Bel Air) be damned. I’ll still take an Impala any day.
As for the handling differences, that can be easily fixed these days. Ugly is harder to fix.
In the early to mid-’60s, my grandparents had a next door neighbor with a white ’61 two door Seneca post. I thought it was strange at that time, even more of an oddball than my grandfather’s ’60 Rambler Super. I find the quirkiness oddly appealing now. But even though I thought the ’61 Seneca was definitely unusual, I absolutely loved the ’62 Dodges. Go figure.
Gee, Mister, your fins are on backwards.
Speaking of two door Seneca post sedans of this vintage, my Dad bought one that was about twelve years old at the time. I got to drive it quite a bit. It was stripper with a slant six and three on the tree but at least it was two door. It was straight and dent free. The interior was so plain, it didn’t even have a radio! The first block off plate I had ever seen. I broke out the polishing compound, liquid wax and chrome polish and had the old thing looking pretty sharp. I thought the styling looked okay, especially from the front three quarter view. The straight on rear view was just weird. Those rounded fins reminded me of those hair buns that my old (I mean in her 60’s) folk dance teacher Mrs Heisler used to wear on her head. We didn’t have a Princess Leia connection back then.
While the white color does the car no favors, I think it looks pretty nice in colors that pop more (except straight on – that grill et al is kind of a mess). The side view is best, but even from the rear it has an artistic flair.
I would most certainly not say no to a car specced like the below…
I don’t think anyone commented on Plymouth’s sales, which were better than Dodge, even the 1961 and 1962 model years. Plymouth was generally #3 or 4 during much of the 1950’s, while Dodge was #7 or 8.
The low priced 3 had moved from a shorter wheelbase of about 115 inches at the beginning of the 50’s to around 118 or 119 by 1961. I think that they move up from midsize cars to full size, although these terms are ambiguous.
Chrysler also brought out the Newport to replace the Desoto, so Dodge still did not have the mid priced range to itself, so moving down market probably made sense, but does not appear to have increased sales much, but maybe prevented them from crashing.
I always thought early ‘sixties Dodge/Plymouths were weird looking. But, while I like the Impala hardtop and convertible, I think the Chevs of ’61 and ’58 were unattractive in the lower models. All other Chevs from the early ’50s, to the mid ‘sixties, except those two years were not unattractive. A cheapie ’59 still looks weird but somehow nice. I think the best looking 1960 car is the Falcon.
Hey just wanted to say thank you for posting my 61 on the website!
Happy to do it! I was delighted to see your car a few years back. There are so few of them around now.
Also, did you happen to also be the owner of the gorgeous navy blue 46-49 New Yorker parked right next to the Dart in these shots? I wrote that one up as well. I had no idea what year it actually was, and took a bit of artistic license calling it an early 49 model, then compared it to the later (real) 49.
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-comparison-shopping-1948-and-1949-chrysler-new-yorkers-decisions-decisions/
Hi JT,
Just stumbled across this post. I understand you have a 61 dodge dart. I am restoring one at the moment, and am stuck with the door rubbers. Which way to glue them on. Do you have any pictures of the doorrubbers?
One of the coolest cars PERIOD! I am sooooooo tired of people criticizing these AWESOME Exner led designs!!
The three quarter rear view reminds me a lot of the Volvo P1800.
Growing up in Chicago Heights, our neighbor had the Polara Phoenix wagon. I won’t forget its odd tail light treatment, the reverse fin, the odd “Phoenix” font in the script, and the front end that looked like it had an orangutan’s forehead.
One day, my father left the house and was backing out of the driveway, exactly when Mr. Stelter in his Polara wagon was backing out. My mom saw them coming at each other, each one oblivious to the other. The driveways were long and they were both backing up at about 5 MPH. I heard my mother yell out my father’s name just as both car’s rear bumpers locked with a loud bang. Both men were very embarrassed at what had happened. From then on, I imagine they looked in every direction while backing out of the driveway!
I think folks have been too harsh on this style Dart. Yeah, the front is a bit dumpy, with some odd surface blending, but no worse than the 2nd gen Toyota Tacoma seen behind this one in the photo’s. I think the rear end (with original taillights) and the greenhouse and profile are quite nice. As Nogueira commented just above, it’s got elements of the Volvo 1800 which was well-received at the time and has become a cult classic over the decades.
I see potentially quite attractive cars, trying hard to break through.
Reminds me very much of the AI car renderings being presented here recently. Some attractive elements, but typically overall, styling that looks half-baked. And not typically released for final.
Six more minutes of simmering needed?
lol Excellent way of putting it!
The “interior pics” of this white one are amazing ! Looks near new! (and that was in 2017)
1961 was the year I became “Car aware” at the age of eight. I vividly remember these Darts when they were first released. I love the Polara tailights and fins. But these? UG-LY! They remind me of when my husband makes a mistake and the loaf of bread he’s baking rises too much. The rear fenders look like too much yeast had been added to the dough.
My “62 year old”, self and those fenders have things in common.
Re-reading this, it hits me for the very first time how much more attractive the 61 Polara was over the 61 Dart. The rear 3/4 of the Polara is actually pretty nicely done. The side trim is much lower, so it doesn’t fight so much with that odd crease in the front fender. Also, the taillights seem to be the reason for the rear quarter design, and are so much better integrated, where the Dart’s taillights seem to be afterthoughts.
But the front. Just sad. That would make a really interesting vote – among CC fans, which front end is the biggest fail: The 61 Plymouth or the 61 Dodge? I think the Dodge is actually the worst of the two.
Well it would appear Lexus would agree with you, based on their current design direction…
But I agree. For me the grille isn’t as much of an issue, as others have noted, the chrome fence was a trend. It’s the tortured front quarters which put a haunch in the front end. Very unappealing.
Re-reading this I was wondering if you’ve changed your thoughts on authorship? I have some thoughts, but have to turn in. Back tomorrow.