(submitted by Garry Melnyk) I have been driving by a house on the way to my mother’s senior’s residence for two plus years now. The 1962 Pontiac Parisienne in the driveway caught my attention the first time I drove by. Firstly because it seemed to have been abandoned right there and since then has slowly sunk into the gravel. Secondly it wasn’t just another plain old Canadian Pontiac from that era. This car is actually a top of the line Parisienne Sport Sedan. Parisiennes were also produced as a two door hardtop, four door sedan and four door wagon.
GM of Canada built 85,065 Pontiac cars during the 62 model year compared to 105,896 Chevrolet cars. I don’t have a breakdown into specific models. Suffice to say for the times, Parisienne hard tops were not as common a model as a pillared sedan or other full-size Pontiac models. Mainly because Canadian incomes were still rising in this decade and there were many young boomer families back then who budgeted on one income. So a flashy new car was simply not a viable purchase.
Engine options in full-size Pontiacs were few; the 261CID 6 cylinder “Strato Six” was standard. A 283 CID “Strato Flash” 170 hp V8 optional with a 250 hp, 327 “Astro Flame” V8 available as a top of the line engine. Whether the 409 CID V8 made it into some Pontiacs up here has been the subject of debate. Some Pontiac enthusiasts claim a few cars did receive the big V8 for drag racing.
So one day I could no longer contain my curiosity and dropped by with camera in hand full of questions for the homeowner. No other vehicle was in the driveway and my knock on the front and back doors went unanswered. So I snapped some pics and took a close look at this Pontiac making a mental note of what I saw. Then my imagination took over.
But first here’s what I saw close up. A relatively well preserved car with a minimal amount of surface rust. Even lower down on the rocker panels. Perhaps it was repainted once upon a time? It’s obvious the car has been outside exposed to the elements for a long time as the vinyl roof is rotted and bubbled. As a kid I don’t recall many Pontiacs having vinyl roofs back then. My perception anyway. The fact the car has aV8 under the hood, a tinted windshield, cloth interior and AM radio means the original owner’s income allowed for a higher optioned car. An engine block heater was probably also installed to make for easier starting on a cold winter morning. Its also worth noting that not one, but two mirrors were mounted on the fenders. Again. not something very common in the early sixties for a family car.
I really wanted to lift the hood to find out what resided between the inner fenders, but was concerned if I was spotted by a neighbour that could lead to other consequences.
A pleasant surprise was the inspection sticker from 1969 still intact on the windshield. This sticker is valued by some collectors in Alberta and clearly shows the windshield has been in place a long time. So this is either the original windshield–which I doubt– or a replacement for one cracked by pebbles thrown up by other vehicles on winter roads. The tires were severely dry rotted and all were flat. All four wheel covers were off and either stored away or long gone. The latter scenario I kind of doubt, as if this was a one-owner car, it was obviously well cared for. While the surface paint was not bad, I don’t know how badly rusted the floor pan or trunk floor could be like. I wasn’t prepared to get on my hands and knees for a look.
Interior fabric and vinyl is far better than what I expected to see while peering through the dirty windows. The steering wheel has only minor cracks. From my observation, this Parisienne was probably garaged regularly and maybe not driven as much as other cars of that era. Winter driving even in the normally dry prairies could still take its toll on a vehicle if the underbody was not undercoated and the body waxed every year. Trying to get a look at the speedometer was impossible.
So why I wonder why just leave the car in the middle so the driveway? Engine problem? A double garage is only metres away. What’s inside the garage another four wheeled treasure or two?
Trying to stop by when someone was home has not worked out yet. The person I want to talk with works during the day. Most often I come by to take my mother out once a week usually around noon. So one day I will cruise by late in the afternoon or early in the evening and hopefully get some answers to my questions. I just really need to know the back story on this hardtop and could it be bought? Great parts car or perhaps a not too challenging restoration for someone who likes old Canadian Pontiacs.
I would guess that the vinyl roof was a later addition. Does not seem that they became popular until the end of the 1960’s at least in the US.
Its interesting to find such old treasures by the roadside and wonder what their history might be, right?
Hang on in there and keep us posted.
That’s about the same state Christine was in when Arnie found her. Watch out! 🙂
But seriously, there was an old Pontiac, a 65 I think, also that gold colour parked in a driveway on our road when we bought our house. It looked to have been pushed out of the garage at some point. It sat there for several more years before disappearing. I never did get a good look at it.
Now at another house around the corner, a mint-looking red 70s Firebird has recently been kicked out of long term storage in the owner’s garage.
While more of a Mopar guy, have also very much liked the second gen Camaro and Firebird. Wonder if that owner is hoping someone drives by and makes him an offer he can’t refuse. Because if he advertised it, I’m sure it would generate a whole lot of interest. It’s almost like he doesn’t want the hassle of taking calls about the car and taking time to show it and give test drives.
Ford popularized vinyl roofs with the intro of the 1963 1/2 “fastback” Galaxie and Falcon….few cars had them before that time.
This car seems pleasantly free of superfluous chrome…especially for a top-of-the-range model. I would be interested to see what is under the plaid seat cover.
And they really got popular with the 1965 LTD.
Ford was a mid-century pioneer in using the vinyl roof; they applied one to the 1950-51 Crestliner as a stopgap until they had a true hardtop model to compete with GM. As a kid, the first new car I remember seeing with a vinyl roof was a 1962 Ford Falcon Futura. They also were popular on Thunderbirds once the Landau coupe was introduced in 1962. My recollection is that the vinyl roof was quite popular on the 1964-66 Thunderbirds, including the non-landau models. And the only car I ever owned with a vinyl roof was a Ford: a 1972 Maverick LDO. Not a feature I would want to see return as care and maintenance was a PITA.
I knew about the Crestliner,but never seen one “live”, The oldset car I’ve seen personally was a 1960 Cadillac Series 60 Special. (It looked factory to me!)
The artist’s rendering in the sales literature makes the Parisienne look wider. They may have used a Bonneville image and inserted the Parisienne nameplates to look more like their wide track offerings south of the border. Canadian Pontiacs were basically Catalina bodies mounted onto a Chevrolet chassis. The wheels were tucked well into the openings. At the time most people didn’t notice as US Pontiacs were very scarce in Canada. US Pontiacs could be special ordered in Canada, but nearing the price of a low end Cadillac or top end Buick of Oldsmobile there were few takers. Nevertheless Canadian Pontiacs were popular and well received. They sold well.
Those wonderful old fantasy ads made Pontiacs look wider than Humvees. And don’t you wish you could join those beautiful, carefree, well-heeled people cavorting around them?
I didn’t realize we had Canadian Pontiacs as a kid–Strato Chiefs and Parisiennes were everywhere–I remember my uncle picking up his 1973 Parisienne-they seemed normal. It wasn’t untill I got in the car parts business that I found out you had to ask if the Pontiac was CDN or US–the easiest way was the colour of the engine, orange for CDN and blue for US.
I’m like you, growing up in Canada in the 60’s and 70’s, I never knew these Pontiacs were specific to us. They were everywhere then, very popular cars.
Nice old poncho .
Hopefully it’ll get saved and returned to the road where it belongs .
-Nate
Keep us posted. I’d really like to hear the story behind this car. I don’t like seeing an old car in otherwise good shape sitting forgotten in someone’s driveway. It would be great to see it back on the road, or to at least have its parts used to keep another one alive. I’m also curious as to what else might be in that garage….
That would have been a pretty deluxe ride here in the great white north back in ’62. Pontiac sold lots of cars here in the ’60s, and for awhile were actually the top seller. When I was a young guy there were ’62 and up “Cheviacs” everywhere. For some reason you rarely saw any ’61 or older though.
I suspect that may be a 327 powered car, a hazy memory tells me that the arrowhead “V” badge on the front fenders didn’t come with the 283. I hope someone rescues it soon, it would be a shame to see it get harvested or rot.
Doesn`t look too bad for a 53 year old car. Probably a fairly easy restoration project, and a great piece of Canadian Pontiac history.Not the kind of car you see every day!
What’s in the garage? If it’s anything like around here it’s $50 worth of junk. 🙂
My uncle had a 62 Parisienne he bought new. He lived in Dallas and claimed he had to go to Canada to get it. I think he was trying to pull my chain but I don’t really know enough about them to know if were offered in the US or not. I reckon I need to goggle it.
Well I goggled it. Maybe my uncle did go to Canada to get his Pariesienne. It wasn’t offered in the US until 1983 according to anything I can come up with.
He was on the a bit crazy side so I wouldn’t put it past him.
There were quite a few sold in the UK in the 60s in RHD.Cheviacs,regular Chevys & Pontiacs and Acadians were all sold at the same time.We often went to Lendrums the London GM dealer when on trips to the capital.My parents were American car fans but preferred compacts for their size and lack of thirst compared to the bigger cars
Quite a few Canadian Pontiacs were also shipped to Australia even into the sixties.
I found a web link that gave the VIN numbers of those cars for specific production years. Don’t know if I can find the link again!
Did you get Pontiac Pontiacs or Cheviacs down under?
We got Cheviacs, badged Parisienne but with RHD. I’ve photographed a 68 which is about the time they stopped bringing them in. IIRC they were CKD with steering swapped over here. Ours might have been sent to the UK.
The glass and black metal was all shared with Chevrolets sometimes NZ got Pontiac powertrains sometimes Chevrolet but all RHD converted.
A 62 Strato Chief, 2 door sedan, 261 with three on the tree My very first,{ legally } on the road car. I had originally bought a 62 Laurention 4 door sedan. Too much rust, and couldn’t get it through a safety check. I found the two door, on the back row, of a Pontiac Buick dealer. With a lot of help from my friends. We made one car, out of two.
That would be the summer of 1970. 16 years old,and I was on the top of world. Southern Ontario, would use a lethal combination of salt, and sand, in the winter months. By 1972 the rust monster had ate, the quarter panels, and the rear of the X frame. The ministry of transportation, used to set up these “Safety check lanes” They unscrewed the plates of the The old Strato Chief , right there on the spot.
. One minute your appily motoring along, listening to CCR on your 8 track. 30 minutes later your walking home, with your tape deck, and your icense plates under your arm. Oh,how cruel life can be when your a kid
Did Canadian Pontiacs have Chevy engines? (The V8 engine sizes listed in this article sound like Chevy engine sizes).
If so, did Canadian Pontiacs use the PowerGlide 2 speed automatic transmissions instead of the HydraMatiic used on American models?
Canadian Pontiacs did use Chevy engines, as well as the Powerglide. Under the skin they were virtually identical to a Chevrolet. This was done until at least 1970 mostly due to import tariffs that existed until the mid ’60s.
Were they ‘Chevrolet’ engines or ‘McKinnon Industries’ versions of the engines? That’s the official name that Studebaker sourced its G.M. engines from for the ’65 and ’66 Canadian models…
Late-September 1961 ad (sorry for blurs):
It is interesting how small the taillights are compared to the size of this nice looking Pontiac.
I wasn’t observant enough at first to notice that the car is a hardtop. While not extra flashy, it has a nice, clean, conservative style yet somewhat luxurious and sporty at the time. And the fifth picture, taken from the rear, shows a really enormous trunk. My guess is it was originally owned by a parent or grandparent of the current owner. And that thus far they’ve been unable to part with it for sentimental reasons. And I agree, since it’s not in the garage where it should be, it makes you wonder what else the homeowner might have in the garage. And you know what? Of all the car shows – both big and small – that I’ve been to over the years, don’t think I’ve ever seen one of these. Really hope it gets restored before the old tinworm gets to it.
Yeah I was wondering if it is a family member perhaps looking after the property which oversees the river valley in Edmonton. It is in a more upscale part of the city, an older neighbourhood which back in the day would have seen many nice, more expensive cars driving around.
Peeking in the kitchen window while there I noticed the appliances were older and the decor in the kitchen very basic. I’m going to try and stop by next week.
While I’m in what’s considered the mid-west of the United States, have actually been to Edmonton many years ago. An uncle was transferred there for several years for his job probably about 1974. So my visit, with my family, was about 40 years ago. Don’t remember much about the visit other than that even though he garaged his car daily, it had to be plugged in to an engine-block heater or the car wouldn’t start. And his car was a late-model, not old. Seems like he had to plug it in at work year-round, too.
Here is one link that might be helpful for Canadian Pontiac production. But not the site I had originally stumbled upon.
http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t22305887/58-70-full-size-production-numbers/
Pobrecita…
Possibly the vehicle of someone who died abruptly or too young. Maybe the person left behind left the car just where it was parked by the deceased owner. Maybe there’s a matching untouched room inside. Maybe motivated by a subconscious belief the loved one may return someday. Maybe even the house has changed hands and then new owner just lets the vehicle be.
The car is not for sale, it’s staying in the family. It has been disturbed occasionally by
people opening the hood. It is parked on private property. Please be respectful.
Thank you very much! 💗 I’m the granddaughter.
I have the same model pillar less 1962 been sitting in my garage for 30 years over the last two years bought a car hoist . In process of full restoration of this beautiful car, have photos if anyone is interested.
Bye the way, to my knowledge there are only 3 here in Australia. and mine is one.
Southern Motors in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia sold around 60 brand new 1962 Export RHD Pontiac Parisienne 4 door pillarless hardtops back in 1962. Few survive today and the few that do, have unfortunately been modified with incorrect wheels, interior trim and after market stereos. Basically these cars have been destroyed by custom crazy owners
hi bryan, hope this email finds you in good health. i read that you hade one of only three 1962 4 door pillarless pontiacs in australia, i think i have one also but is missing a lot of external parts,have you found anyone that may have parts for these at all? Regards Pete
Only a few of these were imported to Australia as a right hand drive.
our Prime Minister Harold Holt, owned a black one.
Former Australian Prime Minster Harold Holt owned a GMH assembled 1962 Pontiac Laurentian. His Pontiac was ‘not’ a Parisienne as is commonly believed.
Also Harold Holts ‘62 Pontiac Laurentian was maroon with a white roof and a red leather interior. This is the historically correct version. Harold Holt never owned a black 1962 Pontiac Parisienne. Absolute rubbish!
Bryan,
Former Australian Prime Minister Harold Holts ‘62 Pontiac was a dark red with white roof GMH assembled 1962 Pontiac Laurentian 4 door sedan and NOT a black ‘62 Parisienne 4 door hardtop as many believe.
I have extensively researched this subject of many years, and can provide the factual proof.
Their was close enough to100 fully imported export RHD 1962 Pontiac Parisienne 4 door hardtops imported to Australia in 1962. Certainly few have survived today, but there are many more than 3 examples.
It’s amazing to me how people try to re-write history. I am old enough to clearly recall these cars as brand new cars and been interested in them for nearly 60 years.
Regards
Carl Kelsen
Unfortunately a lot of incorrect information is posted on the World Wide Web and this information can result with incorrect historical facts being recorded. I could write pages and pages about RHD 1949-1968 Chevrolet & Pontiac production but the following are the facts on the Export RHD 1962 Pontiac Parisienne 4 door pillarless hardtops that came to Australia as brand new cars.
GMH dealer, Southern Motors Melbourne, who in the 1960s held the distribution rights to Pontiac, imported at least 38 of them. Sydney GMH dealer, Stack & Company imported more and although the exact number is not known, its reasonable to assume at least 40 of them.
So Australia wide, there would have been close enough to 100 examples. Certainly still small production but far more than the ” 3 cars ” that some believe.
Australia’s former prime minister Harold Holt did own a 1962 RHD Pontiac, at the time of his disappearance / death. However Harold Holt’s ’62 Pontiac was NOT a Parisienne, was NOT black. It was a GMH assembled ’62 Pontiac Laurentian, maroon body witth a white roof and a red leather interior.
It’s a total myth, that former Australian Prime MInister Harold Holt drove a Parisienne of any description.
Sad to see that Pontiac dying on the driveway.
I had long time ago 2 Parisienne 2 dr hard tops, not common in Sweden. Both had 327, one 2 BBL, one 4BBL (probably not as new) and Powerglide.
They still are alive, sadly one of them is mildly customized.
My friends had a -62 Laurentian 4dr post, that one is probably scrapped.
Hej Mats
I assume you are swedish? Jag har hittat en Parisienne -62 hardtop som jag funderar på att köpa. Pris 100 000 kronor. Tyvärr är det den 6-cylindriga modellen. Tror du prisnivån är rätt?
Hej Gunnar,
Jodå, visst är jag svensk. Är bilen i bra skick är priset helt OK. Vill du ha en V8 i bilen istället framöver, så möter det inga problem. Det är ju Chevas mekanik i Kanada-byggda Parisienne.
Mvh, Mats
Thank you very much! This is my car. 😃 She has new rubber on her now and I’ll be working on her this summer.
Update on the car.
It’s since been passed down to the original owners grand daughter. It now resides out in seba beach
We spent the other day getting it running. The old 327 runs like an absolute top once we cleaned all the gunk out of the Rochester carb.
We will have to return to deal with the fuel tank and get the brakes working. Tires were done fairly recently. Plan is to get it back into road worthy condition. Underside of the car is in remarkably good shape. Bit of rust in the trunk but nothing serious yet.
It’s a one owner car been in the family since new. Apparently the grandmother didn’t like it is the reason for it being parked and saved.
Ps that garage contained a 1926 Chevrolet supreme. A project for another day.