(first posted 7/4/2012) Today is the Fourth of July, so let’s celebrate one of the most American cars – Chevrolet – and one of the most American car types – full frame, V8, rear wheel drive, whitewalls and a landau top. Behold the Caprice Classic Brougham LS, a car that may have made some Cadillac owners consider GM’s bread and butter division. Let me warn you that this is going to be a serious B-body love fest, so if that’s not your cup of tea, may I suggest re-reading the 1970 Camaro, Willys CJ-2A or 1958 DeSoto CCs? For those who enjoy these traditional American cars, read on to learn about the Caprice Brougham LS, the Dr. Jekyll to the 9C1’s Mr. Hyde.
The story of the 1977 General Motors B-bodies has been told before (check out the ’78 Bonneville and ’80 Caprice CCs for more information), so we’re going to be focusing on the Caprice starting in the late ’80s. By that time, the Caprice had received a more aerodynamic redesign once, in 1980, and had just received new front and rear styling for 1986. It was still clearly derived from the ’77 original, however.
In 1986, the Caprice Classic Brougham was at the top of the pecking order. The basic full size Chevy was the Caprice, replacing the Impala in the lineup after 1985. Between it and the Brougham was the Caprice Classic, the sensible middle-class choice. Starting in 1987, there was an even flossier version than the Brougham: The Brougham LS. Other than the new model, 1987 Caprices also got new composite headlamps and parking lights.
So what separated the Brougham LS from the standard Brougham? In a word, more. More gingerbread primarily, consisting of a padded landau vinyl top with LS-monogrammed opera windows and opera lamps in the B-pillars (but of course). The interior was the same as the regular Brougham, so this was primarily an exterior decor package.
One interesting thing about the Brougham LS: to achieve the formal roofline, a fiberglass overlay was grafted onto the unchanged steel roof, which the padded top hid neatly. As you can see, its resemblance to the contemporary Cadillac Brougham is striking – and most likely intentional.
So why did Chevrolet bother? Starting in 1987, they had the full-size GM lineup, save wagons, all to itself. Its corporate siblings were gone; the last one, the Pontiac Parisienne, was discontinued after 1986. Well, that was the whole point! With the fancier B-body Parisiennes, LeSabres and Delta 88s replaced with smaller front wheel drive H-body models, GM’s more traditional mid-price customers needed somewhere to go. Plus, not every loyal Cadillac customer was wild about the new shrunken C-body Sedan de Villes and Fleetwoods.
While no one was going to think a Caprice Classic Brougham LS was a genuine Caddy like a RWD Brougham D’Elegance, it looked, rode and drove an awful lot more like a Cadillac than the 1985-88 FWD C-body versions – especially looked.
To Cadillac’s credit, they almost immediately realized they needed a restyle, and fast. The 1989-93 C-bodies were much more palatable to Cadillac customers, with over 131,000 Sedan de Villes sold in 1990, at $27,540 a pop. But it still was a front wheel drive car with a unitized body, which was still a relatively new concept for Cadillac Motor Division.
With a Brougham LS, you could have all the Cadillac gadgets, an available leather interior, rear wheel drive with V8 power and a comfortable ride. And all of this with a base price of just $14,245 in its inaugural 1987 model year (a V6 version was also available, at $13,805). Not a bad deal, eh?
Even by 1990, the Brougham LS was a luxury car value, at $17,525 for the V8 model, as the V6 powered Caprices were dropped after 1988. In comparison, the last real Cadillac, the 1990 Brougham, was $27,400. Now the Brougham was still very attractive, if a bit long in the tooth, but hey, so was the Caprice by this time. That year, the Cadillac Brougham outsold the Caprice Classic Brougham LS 33,741 to 11,977, but I wonder how many frugal new car buyers saw that ten grand difference and went for the Chevrolet? It was certainly something to consider.
The Caprice also had the most Broughamtastic sound systems. How many woodgrained car radios have you seen? Even the Cadillac stereos did not feature plastiwood. Take that, Cadillac!
As I relayed in my Cadillac Brougham Outtake, a friend’s dad was a salesman at the Pontiac-Cadillac dealership in Rock Island. Thanks to those great deluxe Cadillac brochures, I had a serious Brougham jones in fifth and sixth grade. I also liked the Caprices, for much the same reasons. I remember especially liking the 1987-90 models. I thought the composite lights and flush taillights were really nice, and that the 1980-85 models looked old-fashioned by comparison.
Sometimes CCs find me; this one did. I was just shopping at Hy-Vee, minding my own business. As I was leaving, I noticed a Landau roof way, way, wayyy across the parking lot. “We have a possible Brougham sighting here; I must investigate,” I thought to myself. I’m glad I did. Not only was it a Brougham LS, it was a mint condition one. It was beautiful.
The interior was equally nice, though I would have selected burgundy leather in lieu of the gray velour this example sports. Even the driver’s seat and armrest are perfect. Somebody loves this car. With that gas can sitting inside, I imagined some retired guy going to get gas for his lawn mower, then stopping at the grocery store to pick up a gallon of milk and loaf of bread for the missus. Perhaps that’s just what happened.
Look at all that legroom. Shame there are no fold down footrests, like the Cadillac Fleetwoods had once upon a time. And correct me if I’m wrong, but that plush near-shag carpeting looks an awful lot like the Tampico carpeting used in Cadillacs in the ’70s and ’80s. Can anyone (like Carmine) confirm that?
Here is the whole reason for the Brougham LS’s being: that roof. Look how nice it is! No fading and not a stitch has let go. There were also no scratches or door dings as far as I could see. This is almost certainly a meticulously maintained original. Who would sink big bucks into restoring a circa 1990 Caprice?
I really like this car – maybe you’ve noticed? While it looks great in black, I’d love one in emerald green with tan leather. Burgundy or navy blue with matching interiors would be my second and third choices. Dark colors suit cars like this, and really make all the brightwork stand out.
As pretty as it is, the Brougham LS was never a really big seller. Despite its attractive price per pound, Cadillac still sold way more Fleetwoods, Broughams and Sedan de Villes than Chevy sold Brougham LSs through the ’80s, despite Cadillac’s many troubles during that decade.
In its first year, 23,641 LSs were built, compared to 56,266 standard Caprice sedans. While it looked cheap compared to a Cadillac, the LS was quite a bit more expensive than other Caprices. A 1987 V8 non-Classic Caprice sedan was $11,435. Compared to the LS, that was about a three grand difference, a not inconsiderable sum. LS production was 23,641 for ’87, 21,586 for ’88, 28,033 in ’89 and as previously mentioned, 11,977 for 1990, its last year.
1990 was a bittersweet year for the Caprice. It was the last year for the original “right sized” 1977 body, and although it would get new duds in ’91, the new Caprice would be, well, kind of a dud. The new styling was modern but odd, and thanks to the advance of the SUV Era, the Tahoe would displace the Caprice and its corporate siblings from their Texas home after 1996. Too bad Chevy didn’t keep the three-box Caprice in production alongside the new one. They could have called it the Caprice Classic Classic. And just think, then there could have been an even Broughamier name for this car: Chevrolet Caprice Classic Classic Brougham LS. God bless America, what a name that would have been!
Is my car still good? Is it still worth it? And why everyone says caprice is such a good car?
Does anyone know where I might find the chrome trim for the opera lights on the pillars mines flew off the passanger side on the eway messed my whole day up
Thanks for your trip down my own memory lane! I have to say that my 1990 Classic LS was one of my favourite cars. And on the highway, the 305 engine settled down into overdrive and gave me 27mpg, Canadian gal. I have the records for every drop of fuel I ever put into it, and it was certainly not a gas-guzzler — for the size of the car.
I’ve included a picture of my LS from when I advertised it for sale. Only problem was, it wasn’t “new” anymore, and in 2003, neither was it “old” enough to be appreciated for the condition it was in. I cry today to think it sold for only $1,000 🙁
Click on the pic for a full-size view!
Great information. Love your passion for these cars. I love the 86-90 caprices. I grew up in a blue 89 brougham. I’ve had 5 of them. An 86, 2 89 models, 90, and I am currently almost finished with a full restoration of my white 87 brougham LS with the burgundy cloth interior. It’s a great car. One owner. Low miles. I’ve restored the entire drivetrain. Including a freshly built 350 out of a corvette. The 305 with the 4bbl q-jet had good performance but I still felt like the car needed more. The interior is completely refinished and the vinyl top has been replaced. It just got out of the paint booth yesterday. I plan on having this car for a LONG time. I got lucky with parts because my local junk yard has an 88 caprice that had 20,000 miles on it that an elderly lady’s grandson crashed into a tree. The interior of the car was still perfect as well as most of the lights and emblems.. Etc. I bought all of it. I wish there was more people who love these cars. Car doesn’t have all the chrome trim or opera lights back on it yet but here she is.
Almost there!
I never owned one of these but i did consider one before purchasing my triple dark red 1986 Ford LTD Crown Victoria back in 1992. The Caprice Classic I test drove was an ’84 model finished in that sort of coppery light brown, with a chocolate brown full vynil top & interior. It ran & drove great, even with the feedback version of the Quadra jet 4bbl. I ultimately chose the Ford because it had many merits over the Chevy; fuel-injection, true dual exhausts, turbine-spoke alloy wheels vs. the Chevy’s ersatz fake wire covers. These are still nice looking cars; proportioned right, clean styling, & the updates for ’86 & ’87 really did a lot for these cars. Finding a nice one today that some urban punk hasn’t sullied with 20″ blades & some stupid BOOM-BOOM stereo & atrocious day-glo or candy paint scheme has become near impossible. Great to see this unmolested example in great shape.
One of the saddest days of my life- when I went with my grandfather to C. Weaver Chevrolet in Yorkville, NY in March of 1997 to trade in his 1987 Chevy Caprice for a 1997 Chevy Lumina. Both base models, but wow, 2 totally different cars. Somehow I knew then that things in society were changing- for the worse.
Even more sad; the caprice was beautiful- white with dark burgundy interior, burgundy pinstripe, 55,000 miles and STILL smelled new. I will never forget the new car smell that remained in that Caprice for 10 years.
After about a month, my grandfather knew he had made a big mistake. By then, he regretted that he refused to listen to me when I tried talking him into a used ’96 Caprice that was on the lot. He was 76 at the time and I think those old-timers just assumed that their replacement car would be similar to their trade in since it had been that way for the previous 40 years- (he had been driving rear-wheel drive caprices/impalas since 1959).
I think a lot of peoples’ parents and grandparents experienced this feeling once they hit the proverbial GM brick wall of small, FWD plastic, foreign car rip-offs. And now today in 2015 without a front bench seat, forget about it. It’s over.
And DARK colors make a car HOT as “h” inside!
I’m very glad that my ’89 Caprice is white.
Beautiful car of my favourite Year Caprice,but methinks you should have blurred out license plate numbers. May be just old me being paranoid but you never know…
Why? What exactly is it that you “never know”? Licence plates are public. They are seen and read by every person and every camera in the roving vicinity of the car. What practical or hypothetical good can possibly be achieved by obscuring the plate in a photo on the internet?
It’s called HACKERS.
Okeh, sure, I’ll continue biting: what do you imagine HACKERS can do with a licence plate number they see on the web that HACKERS can’t do with a licence plate number they see on the street or in a driveway or at the drive-thru?
It’s just a matter of courtesy & respect Daniel.
I’m sure you have both in decent doses, but
you might want to familiarize yourself with them
Caprice Classic Brougham LS
Caprice Classic Brougham
Caprice Classic
Caprice
I wonder why it was decided the trim level names should stack like Discworld dwarf patronymics*, instead of this version just being “Caprice LS”?
* (“…after a few generations of that you get Glod Glodsonssonssonssonsson.”)
Cadillac buyers that still wanted a RWD car could just buy a Brougham. The 1990-1992 was really the pinnacle of classic styled Cadillac but the Caprice with all of the options cost about $7,000 less.
Yes, “BigBrownTruck”; Try to find one decent-condition Caprice… and you’ll come across 3 or 4 early 90s Broughams before you find a good Caprice.
Why? I cannot fathom. Maybe you can.
I guess nobody noticed, but the feature car is a 1989 model, not a 1990. If this were a 1990 model year car it would have front door belts. The fact that it has the rear shoulder belts and no
door belts means this car is a 1989.
Two of the biggest profile shifts was the trimming down of the
hood – which I actually like. Pre-1980 too much meat above the
actual grille, and, the ever rearward & upright drift of the rear
window behind the back seat across 13 years. From a 45deg
slope to practically vertical by 1990, it was easy to mistake for
a Cadillac roof if broughamed-up in vinyl.
I like this car a bit better now then when it was new. Through the gauzy lens of 26 years, its a car from another era, and the turmoil that was GM in the ’80s is harder to ascribe to this car.
GM was definitely thinking less than ever about divisional hierarchy, and just worried about sales wherever they could find them. Pesky Ford and the Panther trio were probably driving them crazy – Ford was making easy profit on cars that generally required little updating to sell during the mid and late ’80s. Even Chrysler’s woefully dated and supposedly uncompetitive M body Fifth Avenue was selling in surprising numbers.
So, GM tarted up the Caprice trying to appease some of the former Buick and Olds customers that were defecting to Ford’s Panthers or the Fifth Avenue. The LS package was not attractive, and just wrong on a Chevy in many ways.
An analogy to whoring itself out is apt – too much make up and inappropriate clothing – and like most prostitutes, it was a career dead end that could not last. Caprice sales generally sagged through this period anyway, at the expense of GM making a public marketing statement that its more prestigious brands were offering inferior vehicles.
In no small way, Chevy and Cadillac offering the most complete line of big RWD cars at the time was a real predictor of the way GM is mostly built on those two brands today.
Dave B: And remember it’s GM that went “jelly-bean”
aero with their full-sized a year before the Mercury
and Ford panthers did.
Dave, the sales of the Chevrolet Caprice indeed decreased in the late 1980’s but so did the Crown Vic.
Here are the numbers:
Caprice
1988 – 189,108
1989 – 173, 255
1990 – 155, 281 (note short production year)
Crown Vic
1988 – 125,189
1989 – 122,986
1990 – 77,395
I would also argue that Ford did a much better job at updating the Panther cars, verses GM with the B-bodies. By 1990, Ford had fully updated the interior, dash board, and gone to MPFI. A big reason that the B-body (along with the G-body cars) were kept around so long was that they still sold well, and GM made huge profits on these cars as the costs had been long amortized.
You have access to more numbers than I.
I’d agree that Ford did a better job with the Panthers – our family shifted from from Caprice and Olds 88 in the late ’70s to Panthers in the late ’80s.
Keeping in mind that the Mercury Grand Marquis and Crown Vic were very similar, and generally trimmed out at a more Olds / Buick level than the Caprice, Ford was selling a lot of Panthers at good transaction prices. I believe the MGM may have been Mercury’s best selling car in the late ’80s, good for 100,000 copies or so.
With the Town Car also selling well, and much better than Cadillac’s Brougham, It’s possible that Ford may have bested GM for total sales of large RWD cars during the late ’80s. Or, did an incredible job of closing the gap compared to, say, 1977.
As much as anything, I think GM kept the B / C cars around out of fear for Fleet business – which eventually ended up going to Ford anyway.
That isn’t to say that GM’s H body FWD large car replacements were irrelevant, but a lot of people had a hard time warming up to them – and the Panthers outlived those cars as well.
(tongue firmly in cheek… or is it?) OK. That’s it. Can some rational person tell me why the M body Chrysler 5th Avenue is nowhere to be found on CC, yet, the Chevrolet 5th Avenue is on here!?? For crying out loud!! Chevrolet isn’t even GM’s flagship brand — although I do love this particular example I must admit.
I can stay silent no longer on this topic. Jeepers!! lol
A “Search” box – be it on Curbside or any other website,
or on your PC, Mac, or mobile – is not designed to actually
*find* anything – unless you are an expert at Boolean.
You mean you didn’t know that? lol
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-1988-chrysler-fifth-avenue-the-volare-that-fell-out-of-the-brougham-tree-and-hit-every-branch-on-the-way-down/
Or alternatively…
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-1985-dodge-diplomat-se-absolution-granted/
Or even (it’s one of the auction cars)
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/features/educator-dan-spins-the-public-surplus-cc-auction-roulette/
Now that I’ve done my good deed for the day, off to the family barbecue.
Perfect. I was just too lazy to look harder than a cheap ‘5th’ or ‘avenue’ term search in Mozilla’s search. Apparently ‘a href’ HTML hyperlinks aren’t analyzed since at least one of those terms are in the above Curbside. url.
Anyway, I thought I remembered seeing this gray example existing somewhere… 😛
These cars look—and stay out of crashes—better in export trim with actual, real rear turn signals instead of the cheap American flashing-brake-light kind.
But it looks so much nicer and cleaner with red turn signals.
Americans – so obsessed with looks! lol I prefer
functionality: Amber at all four corners, for turns and
hazards, like the Euros and some Asians do.
We in the Europe prefer the complete red taillights, there is nothing nicer then full red shine within full car width in the night. To stay legal on this side of ponk, you need to work out led custom lights to shine amber turn signal over the red.
These export tailligths have 1 main safety issue, the car appear narrower then it is due the missing shinning segment at the corner.
Of course there is a tendency among car geeks to prefer whatever foreign-specification equipment is locally exotic. American “tuners” seek out European- or Japanese-spec nameplates, grilles, lights, etc; European and Japanese “tuners” favour American-spec parts.
Beyond that, though, the safety issue in this case runs only one direction, not both as you surmise. The amber turn signal is well demonstrated to do a significantly better job than the red one of preventing crashes, but there is no tail light-positioning safety issue as you describe. It’s understandable how you might arrive at such a guess, but that is prevented from being an actual safety issue by the spacing requirements in the applicable regulations: ECE R48 requires the outer edge of the tail and stop (brake) light functions to be located within 40 cm of the vehicle’s extreme outboard edge, a dimensional spec that is based on sturdy research on what’s necessary to prevent exactly the misperception you mention. The European-spec tail lamps on the Caprice have the tail lamp much closer to the outer edge than 40 cm; there is no issue.
(As for “LED custom lights to shine amber through the red lens”: it is a neat trick; I’ve seen that YouTube video, too, but while it might get the car through an inspection, it’s not actually legal—it violates ECE R6 and R37, among others.)
You sounds like making a living in Brussel… Up to 40 cm taken from each side on 200cm wide body is imo dangerous, no matter what the relevant law say.
No, sir, in fact I’m in Canada. Your guess about what’s dangerous is just that—a guess—and it’s not supportable by actual crash data. Sure, I agree with you in principle that it’s best for the tail lamps to be as far apart as practicable, but there’s no data to suggest vehicles with the tail lamps inboard of the turn signals get hit in relevant ways more than vehicles with the tail lamps outboard of the turn signals.
Nor does your “danger” make much sense if you think about it: if you say you hit the corner of a car because the taillamp was 30cm from the outboard edge instead of 3cm, what you really mean is you weren’t paying attention and you were much too close to the car you hit.
one of these with a TBI 305 would be a really nice find. have that engine in a 92 Caprice wagon, and it pulls great for 170 hp, starts all the time, and runs fine at 153 K. also gets over 20 MPG in mostly highway driving. I am convinced that last gen BOF V8 full size was peak car for comfort, durability, ease of repair, and practicality.
I had a 79 Caprice Classic…..black with silver mid section two tone…..I was considering buying a new ’90 Caprice Classic but Chevy no longer offered the silver in a two tone….it was now a slate gray….which did not offer enough contrast from the black primary color like the lighter silver did on the 79….
I ended up trading the 79 Caprice for a used 87 two tone S10 Blazer which I soon grew dissatisfied with due to its lack of engine power from its 2.8 V6
Brougham haters gonna Brougham hate but that aside, I think this car is a real gem. First of all, the condition is spectacular – seeing one in like-new condition really does illustrate how close it was(and superior in some aspects) to a contemporary Cadillac.
That said, if I was to order one like new (a B-Car Chevy Brougham) I’d go with the non-LS to get the two-tone. I’ve seen Dark Blue/Medium Silver metallics that are really attractive.
(The sound of Syke, off in a corner, retching up breakfast.)
Oh God, another one of those.
The mechanic who worked on my family’s cars had a Brougham LS, I think an ’89. Nice-looking car; the facelifted Caprices wore the landau roof well. Mike was a GM guy through and through; when he wasn’t driving the Caprice, he drove a ’68 Electra 225 that he had inherited from his father.
GTD
I have a 1986 Pontiac Parisienne Brougham (Black exterior/tufted champagne cloth interior) which is very similar to the Caprice Brougham (Chevy 305, 4 barrel, 4speed overdrive; however, it has that distinctive Pontiac styling-fender skirts, grille, Landau lights, Pontiac wire wheel covers, etc.
I don’t recall ever seeing a black Parisienne Brougham. They look great in dark blue, so it must be pretty sharp in black too. My family had an ’86 Parisienne Brougham as well, silver with dark blue interior. Vinyl roof that probably started life black but had faded to a dark blue almost the same color as the interior, which was a nice if probably unintentional effect. Ours had the Olds 307/4bbl instead of the Chevy 305 though.
surely the stock engines they offered would struggle in something like this?
I was lucky to find a low-mileage ’89 w/ the F41 suspension.. in great condition.. and quite cheap. I DO hate the plastic headlights [how do you aim the stupid things??].
I did have to have the transmission re-done [by Steve Peluso, Lee Myles of Boston]. But it’s a GREAT car. The gas mileage is well OVER 20 mpg—in town!
What surprises me.. is that it’s harder to find one of these type Chevies.. than a RWD Cadillac of the same vintage. Check it yourself on your local CraigsList: for every ‘box’ Caprice, you’ll find 4 or 5 RWD Cads! “Go figure.”
I still wish for vent windows, however.
Here’s a July, 2018 update: I recently bought a second ’89 F41 Caprice.. which has almost three times the accumulated mileage on it, but is in great shape. Interestingly, it has some of the same odd problems…. such as the right front radio speaker (on top of dashboard) has the same static problem.
With this second Caprice, the original owner (1) passed on a half-inch thick folder of receipts. In it, were nine UNsolicited offers by “exporters” to buy the car. There’s a sizable group effort by Middle Easterners to buy good big RWD American cars, to ship ’em to that part of the world where there is huge demand for them… for big profits! They actually state that they prefer “high-mileage cars”.. because they know that owners here will receive much less trade-in or sale value for such.
I’ve formulated a theory as to why some prefer an F41 Caprice over a RWD panther-platform Ford. These Caprices are better in the Mid-West… where the roads are better than here in the Northeast (from Philadelphia to Boston) where the infrastructure is old and the potholes are many & constant. The big Panthers ride better (and shake less) on such poor road surfaces than do the Caprices. But the Caprices get better fuel mileage and have far longer cruising ranges due to much larger gas tanks. Yet the FoMoCos have far better seats than the GMs—-needed for the very many potholes in NYC area and New England….. where the money goes to illegals.. instead of fixing potholes. Liberalism has high, ‘hidden’ costs—both literal and figurative.
Since the wife won’t leave New England, I just might sell my Caprices…. if I can find a decent late-1980s Town Car (or 2) with leather and light-colored paint. But the supply of those has become suddenly scarce, sadly.
I found an ’89 and ’86 Town Cars today, both white, one with red leather the other blue cloth. Both mint. Keep your eyes out, they’re out there.
This is my Caprice Classic, 1990,with TBI injection, 350, ex US Embassy with steel of 6 mm in each door and seat back. Is the only one with this kind of engine in Ecuador
This is my 90 Caprice Classic, with TBI 350, ex US Embassy in Ecuador. BLINDED with 6 mm in all doors and seat back, the same in all tires
Tom Klockau, I can’t believe my luck: ten years after I bought my first ’89 Caprice Classic w/ fuelie and the F41 suspension,,,, I found another one. I just brought it home within the hour. Yeah, the price was pretty reasonable.. but more than my low-mileage one that I bought ten years ago. This one was well-maintained… but shows signs of the transmission converter clutch being rather reluctant to ‘let go’ when it’s appropriate. Thus, I anticipate the same repair on this one… to the tune of $350.. or so. Oh, the A/C even still blows cold air! No bad, eh?
Yet, even though these Chevy seats are a bit better than mid-1980s RWD Buick seats, I know of no GM automobile that comes with seats as good as a Panther-platform RWD FoMoCo from the 1980s or early 1990s. Plainly, the aforementioned Fords have better front seats… largely because of superior structure! The GMs are merely two aluminum shells with foam rubber over ’em. The FoMoCos have a genuine seat FRAME.. that properly supports the good padding… AND the driver / passenger. [Here’s an odd thing, though: the Cartier seats in an ’80s Town Car are NOT as good as the Signature ones.]
I confess that I’ve always been “a slow learner”.. in the sense of being slow to draw obvious & good conclusions; to wit: THE ADVOCATES here for a Caprice w/ F41 ARE PROFOUNDLY CORRECT! In the last six months of driving my latest ’89 Caprice w/ F41, I have come to the conclusion that it IS a great car… and the best-handling one that I’ve had in 35 years. The only thing that I wish was that the cloth upholstery was not “velour”… and that it had a bit more wheelbase. But it’s a close to perfection as a car can be, IMO now. One thing I really like is that the steering wheel is placed just right: FoMoCo steering wheels are ALWAYS too close to the driver. My F41-equipped Caprices also have genuine “feel” in the steering—-not the numbness that is in Fords.
How does one correct or repair the “sticking” engine idle speed return to normal?
The first LS Brougham Caprice’s came out in late 1986, these are rare. Does anybody know the production number that year for them?
I had an ’81 Bel Air. I was quite proud of it when I first got it, but since it had been a sales guy’s car, it had been beaten pretty hard before it came into my hands.
I got it painted and tuned up and all, but after a couple of years of daily driver duty it showed itself to be a bit less than reliable, and came close to leaving me at the side of the road stalled out from time to time.
The Bel Air was just the base model, for sure, but the car rode pretty well, and it was the first (5.0L) V-8 I had owned. Nonethelss, a change was to be made. Oh and I got a few bucks by selling the wheel mounted snow tires to a friend, who happened to have a Caprice.
Always wondered if the composite headlights could be retrofitted to an early 80s Olds Eighty Eight or Ninety Eight.
Anyway, found this beautiful Pontiac Bonneville B Body coupe earlier today for sale online, thought I’d share a pic.
What a difference 20 years makes in the auto industry. Way back in 1965, Iacocca made a big splash with the LTD, a luxury Ford. Brougham-ism followed across all model lines well into the seventies when performance all but died out as the big seller in autos.
But, then, here we have the late-eighties Caprice Classic Brougham LS which was, for all intents and purposes, a Sedan de Ville for 60% of the price. And, yet, sales were lackluster. I guess those nameplates further up the Sloan ladder still carried significant caché to those looking for a luxury car.
A shame since the CCBLS looks like some sweet, sweet domestic luxury at a bargain price for those who didn’t mind it coming from one of the low-priced three (even if it was an old-school, BoF, RWD big car).
Bad boys bad boys bad boys
Whatcha gonna do when they come for you????
Watching COPS as a kid, this is THE patrol car.
Honestly if I won the lottery, a box Caprice with the aero headlights and a monster turbocharged LS V8 under the hood with 700+ horsepower wouId make one hell of a hotrod
Spotted in 2014 at my local oil spray establishment
Rear view.
I have to wonder if the LS alone being outsold by the Caddy Brougham 3 to 1 had less to do with its’ value proposition vs the Cadillac than its’ value relative to the rest of the Caprice line. The non-LS Brougham had the same interior including the leather option, if you wanted the velour anyway the Classic wasn’t much of a downgrade and even the base retail-spec Caprice interior was pretty plush by that time (and included the woodgrain radio faceplate).
That left the LS as a ‘tweener’ car – squint and it looks like a Cadillac, but everyone knows its’ a Chevy so they’re not impressed by *that*, and if you just wanted to glide in supreme traditional domestic luxury a Caprice sans fiberglass roof cap would do that just as well for even less money.