It was about three or so years ago when coworker Rand retired and that was the last time I had talked to him. In a conversation the other day, Rand’s name came up; then, in one of those mysteries of life, he called about ten minutes later. The last time Rand had called about a car, it was about a 1960 Jaguar XK-150S the owner let me drive.
“Hey, I got these two Galaxies on my property. You want some parts off them to sell before I send the carcass to the junk yard?”
Well, sure. Rand and I are both big into recycling so I was all in. A few days ago I went to Rand’s house and checked out what he had.
Before we go further, and this may be stating the obvious, but both of these Fords are beyond any point of hope. The floor pans are gone, much of the glass is gone, and they’ve been parked in the woods of Rand’s property for decades.
To make matters more interesting, Rand’s father, Gene, had owned both of them, purchased used at different times, and these were what transported Rand and his siblings in their childhood years. The property you see had belonged to Rand’s parents before he bought it. Rand has recently relocated these two Fords to where these pictures were taken.
After each went kaput, particularly the ’64, Gene placed them in a field near a creek and opened the doors so his hogs could sleep inside them.
That explains the bent steering wheel on the ’64. So let’s start with it.
Ford didn’t do any stupendous amount to differentiate the interior of the 1964 models from the 1963s. Apart from tweaking the appearance of the gauges and the location of the ignition switch, the dashboard of the ’64 is nearly identical to that of a 1963 Galaxie. A fair number of parts, such as the hood, interchanged also. Drivetrains were mostly identical.
This Galaxie was last licensed in 1974. Rand said it met its demise at the hands of his older sister as she hit something that compromised the oil pan and the engine subsequently seized. That’s when it entered its retirement career in the swine industry.
Something I found amusing is the dealer tag on the back of this Galaxie. I asked Rand if the name of “Rudy Fick” rang a bell; it didn’t. He was amused when I told him how “fick” in German translates to English. Google did verify this for me.
In my picture taking, I did capture the data plate. Since we are speaking translation, here’s what I learned about this particular Galaxie…and it uncovered a mystery.
This 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 Town Sedan is painted Vintage Burgundy and had a black interior. It was built November 8, 1963, at Ford’s Twin Cities, Minnesota, plant. Equipped with a two-barrel 289 V8, it has a rear axle ratio of 3.00:1 and has a C4 automatic. It was the 24,365th car off the line.
But then this badge was on the front fender. Texting Rand later, he said he did remember it to be a 289 car but has no idea for the discrepancy between the 390 fender tag and the engine being a 289. He and I both concluded it must have been involved in a wreck prior to Gene purchasing it, with the donor fenders being from a 390 car. That’s the most viable answer to this mystery.
Or, Ford simply made a monumental goof.
The engine certainly looks like a 289. Ford made just under 197,000 Galaxies in this body style.
When harvesting parts, many were not willing to be removed, particularly the 390 badges. The chrome rings around the right outside headlight, seen lingering in this picture, also put up a valiant fight. We then moved to the 1965 Galaxie.
The 1965 Ford was one of the most changed cars in Ford’s history. Apart from some drivetrains, little to nothing carried over from the 1964 models. This was obvious in seeing these two together; when comparing them, they don’t feel very related – from the mundane pieces such as door hinges, to the more obvious, such as the interior layout, the differences are immense.
This ’65 is a four-door hardtop, one of almost 50,000 made that year.
Fifty-six years later the differences seem less palpable, but they exist. For our purposes, the most readily evident difference was how much easier parts came off the ’65. The intricacy of construction (or, rather, parts removal) was less complex on the ’65.
Let’s consider the tail lights. On the ’64 the tail lights had a chrome ring screwed into a housing that also had the lens screwed into it. On the ’65, the whole assembly had just a few screws and it popped right out. Removal of the grille was also a relatively easier endeavor and the badges came off without much resistance. We spent far less time getting the same number of items off the ’65.
This ’65 was last licensed in 1979. Rand has no memory of how it entered retirement.
The ’65 Ford is a car with which I have no experience. Driving one of these back-to-back with a ’64 could be quite the enlightening experience. As a child during the mid- to late-1970s, every “old” Ford I saw was a ’66 or ’67. Rare was the sighting of a 1965 model.
Our Honey Gold Galaxie 500 is equipped with factory air conditioning and what appears to be an 8-Track player mounted beneath the glove compartment. I am speculating that to be aftermarket.
Here’s the data plate. What does it tell us?
Built in Chicago on February 2, 1965, this Galaxie four-door hardtop has a four-barrel 390 hooked to a Cruise-O-Matic transmission going to a 3.00:1 rear axle. It was the 79,365th car down the line and was shipped to the St. Louis sales zone.
Upon removal of various items from both cars, Rand stated there was a third car, a wagon, on the property and asked if I wanted to see it. Naturally, I did. So we walked back further onto his property.
It was a 1969 Ford Country Squire. Buried up to its frame on a creek bank, it had also belonged to Gene.
This Country Squire makes me wonder if data plates might need to be interpreted with a degree of leniency. How so?
This translates to being a 1969 Ford Country Squire with dual facing rear seats. It was built in Oakville, Ontario, on December 30, 1968, and shipped to the St. Louis sales zone. It is powered by a two-barrel 390 V8 and it has a C6 automatic and a 2.75:1 rear axle. It was number 40,242 down the assembly line.
By all indications this Ford is Aztec Blue – well, it’s at least blue. Enough is gone from the car to see blue in the normally covered areas, indicating it is indeed a blue car. However, the data plate has a color of “E”. According to the same online translation source used throughout, this car is supposedly Medium Beige.
A trim code of “D”, one character removed, is for a bright blue metallic. Then again, if looking at 1969 Ford paint colors, it appears Aztec Blue has a code of “E”, which makes me suspicious of the data plate decoder. Oh, the mysteries of life.
Further stimulating my curiosity is the trim. It says “KAA”. There is nothing for a “KAA” trim as all of Ford’s trim codes that year used two characters. However, a trim with a code of “KA” (there is no “AA”) reflects a black interior; Rand said he doesn’t remember the interior to be black. Me wonders if someone at Ford got a bit clumsy or overzealous in the interim between Christmas and New Year’s. More mysteries.
This is one of 83,000 ten-passenger Country Squires built; there were another 46,000 six-passenger versions produced.
Regardless, seeing this wagon was the cherry on top of an already good day.
In our conversation while removing parts, Rand said his big motivation was to get some usable parts back into circulation. I couldn’t agree more with this sentiment.
We will be doing so on the 1964…
As well as the 1965. All these parts just need a little cleaning to re-enter the mobile automotive world. Seeing these go to waste would have been a crime.
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Nice, too bad the hogs didn’t look after the cars very well.
Also too bad the hood wasn’t usable on the 64, I seen to recall you had hood problems with your 63.
Yes, the hood on my ’63 is from a ’64. It fits, but has always needed enticement to close on the first try. I did obtain a second hood at the time I obtained the ’64 hood presently on my Galaxie. It isn’t in quite the same condition and, wouldn’t you know, it’s from a ’63.
As for the hogs, it actually makes a lot of sense. A ten year old Galaxie with a bad engine in 1974 was likely pretty worthless. Repurposing the car as he did definitely gave it some value it didn’t have otherwise. Years ago, my wife’s uncle had a ’54 Chevrolet on the family property he was using as a hot-house for his garden. The interior was full of soil, and it was ideal for starting his tomato plants from seed. He’d move it around periodically to keep it in the sun for more of the day.
I can confirm that the dividing line that separates big Fords between pre and post 1965 is a big, thick one. I got to experience both growing up, between my Uncle Bob’s 1964 Galaxie 500 4 door hardtop (also Vintage Burgundy) and my father’s 1966 Country Squire (and my own 67 Galaxie 500 convertible).
Everything about the 64 felt old, heavy and thick. Everything about the 66 felt “modern”. Really, Uncle Bob’s 64 Galaxie had more in common (from a purely tactile, subjective feel) with the 1960 Studebaker Lark owned by my friend’s family than it had with Dad’s 66 Squire. Even in stuff like the steering wheel – painted rubber with the paint wearing off in the 64 vs. colored plastic in the 66. The 65+ had a subjective feel (to me at least) that was related all the way through the Fox and Panther body cars of the 90s.
Both of those would have been really nice cars at one time. I see that both the 64 and the 65 had air conditioning, something that was pretty rare in my area at that time (at least in a Ford Galaxie). One other way this represented the real life from my memory – the 65 had all of its wheelcovers present and accounted for, while they were all missing on the 64.
Even in their present condition, there was an amazing difference in feel between the two of them.
In taking pieces off them, the word “overbuilt” and “overkill” kept going through my head regarding the ’64. But it wasn’t in a bad way. This car had dual, fender mounted, rearview mirrors. I have not yet determined if these were factory or aftermarket although there were two holes in the top of the fender for them. Anyway, the mirror mounting was amazing – a rubber piece is mounted to the fender. The chrome housing mounted to the rubber piece, while the mirror portion was mounted to the chrome housing. So it’s three separate pieces.
On the flip side, the hood ornament on the ’65 was mounted with a single 3/8″ bolt.
All of these had indeed been really nice cars at one time.
As a kid when they came out, the ‘65 Ford (and of course, in a very different way, the ‘65 Chevy) seemed like a shape for cars. Almost as dramatic as the Taurus in ‘86 (yes, I knew about the Audi 5000 but I’m speaking of American sedans). It’s interesting to read that the materials, feel, and design-for-assembly and disassembly were innovative as well.
Yup; 1965 was the dividing line between 1950s technology and what would essentially become almost endless late-sixties tech.
Car manufacturing is always about reducing costs. The Big Three were under a lot of pressure back then, as their labor costs were rising faster than inflation, so they really had to bring down manufacturing costs.
Today we can look at that 65 Galaxie and see how much further they still had to go in that regard.
I love me any good junker situation but the ones in the woods or scattered upon the land are my favorites, like these. These three are little pots of honey especially since you know the history of them now, bringing them back to life. Sort of. But like any good scrapper knows, there’s value in them thar parts, and more so as intact ones rather than shredded steel. While it’s too bad the cars aren’t viable anymore as cars, the parts will help someone else’s do so.
Decoding the tags is always a little difficult, there are quite a few decoders out there (and mostly seem to be from sites that look designed in the late 90s for some reason). Often there’s just missing information that leaves a code an enigma and sometimes it’s flat out wrong. It’s amazing how much time can be spent trying to look that stuff up…
“mostly seem to be from sites that look designed in the late 90s for some reason”
That’s the truth.
Yesterday there was mention about people keeping all their old cars in a field…I suppose that’s what Gene did to an extent. He knew how to get use from an otherwise dead car.
Always a soft spot for wood grain wagons.
However, this one needs too much TLC.
Thanks for taking us along on this adventure, Jason–and for your usual cheery storytelling. For each of these cars, the ones preceding it and following it on the assembly line were differently optioned and led different “lives”–but there I go again, treating cars as somehow animate.
As a child I saw the ’62 and ’63 cars as the most similar, and wouldn’t have picked up on the shared ’63/’64 hood in particular. But yeah, the 1965 was changed in countless ways.
Here’s hoping the parts find a useful “next life” and yield some $$$ to repay your salvage efforts!
I’m hoping to get everything cleaned up this weekend and available to others quickly – although I am keeping a 390 badge from each car.
Too bad you couldn’t get the bumpers. Most of them look pretty good in the pics, even if they may need a bit of straightening & chrome
If the yard Rand mentioned is the one I’m thinking, these cars will still be around for a while yet. It was that yard where I found the ’74 Torino I wrote up and it was across the aisle from a ’65 Impala.
The bumpers very much crossed my mind but I wasn’t quite equipped to remove them.
Another good story well told =8-) .
I too enjoy seeing parts recycled back into use, as a Mechanic I think of cylinder heads, starter and generator cores etc….
Someone somewhere is dying to find the dashboard and other small trim items .
-Nate
The ’65 has an add-on AC. The factory system was integrated into the dash for the first time that year.
Someone had added the 390 emblems on the ’64. They are placed too high, they should be on the lower part of the fender, under the character line.
I was 4 when my dad traded his Prairie Bronze ’64 Galaxie 500 4-door hardtop for a ’65 in same color and body style. Even as a little kid, I could sense the difference. Not only did it not resemble the ’64 in any way, in or out, but it really was quiet. The engine could not be heard running, whereas in the old car, it was noticeable.
That was my thought as well regarding the AC. Integrated ’65 dash…..
I thought the same thing about the 390 emblems. Just didn’t look right.
Very nice Jason. Were you able to glean that hidden headlight grille?. I’m scavenging more pieces in my head as I look at these photos.
I didn’t touch the wagon. It’s stuck tight, so it’s not going anywhere for a while.
I’m glad you got the opportunity to pick through these cars — must be satisfying to do so on cars that are beyond all repair, so you have no guilt that you’re tearing apart cars that might otherwise have been restored.
And wow, those hogs lived well for a while!
Decoding the data plates can sometimes be like coming up with accurate production numbers — there often seems to be multiple versions of the same information out there, and on occasion all of it is correct, and all of it is incorrect too.
Another advantage from taking parts from these cars is if one needs to do some convincing, it doesn’t really matter if there is collateral damage. That is a nice perk in this type of parts harvesting.
I don’t know if there is a fee to be paid or if it’s worth it, but with Fords you do have the option of running a Marti Report.
NASCAR is relatively unfamiliar to me but I do think that the 1965 Galaxie suspension and maybe chassis and floorpan were the template for most of their racers for many years.
My father had a 64 Country Squire, powered by a 289 with ” three on the tree ” PLUS overdrive. An uncle had the Country Sedan. That uncle and his brother then bought matching Country Sedans from the same small town dealer with the idea being: who can put the most miles on their car in the shortest period of time. They then proceeded to trade them for 68 Country Squires.
My father would eventually trade his Country Squire for a 66 LTD. Of just those cars, my favorite would be a 65 Country Sedan…or Squire in the ” right ” color combinations. Yet, another uncle owned a 63 Country Sedan and a 63 Fairlane Ranch Wagon. My ultimate favorite would be the 63 Ranch Wagon.
Regarding the issue with the Country Squire data plate…perhaps there was confusion on the production line as Canadian data plate codes were usually different from USA data codes back then.
I’ve found this to be the case with cars built by other Canadian manufacturers. So its possible although the build sheet might have shown shipment to the USA, someone on the line screwed up using a code for a CDN car.
Is that rare right hand mirror going on your car? While I’ve driven plenty of miles without one, I can’t imagine doing that anymore.
I assume the tail light mounting on my ’67 Galaxie was the same as the ’65. I never did figure out how to change the backup bulbs. I think the answer is removal as you did!
About hogs & car interiors . . .
Some of you here may realize I happen to have an interest in everything connected with Packards and Studebakers. A long time friend from the Packard club, someone who other Packard club members may recognize from his perchance for humor and his running a Packard parts business in Detroit, told me this tale years ago;
He attended, as a guest, a Studebaker National meet banquet about 40 years ago. After dinner, he stood up and made a little speech [recited from my memory, so the words may not be exact, but the meanings are accurate].
[Spoken with a very slow and heavy Texas style accent.]
“I just wanted to say a few words about the cars you guys love. My family had a lot of Studeee-bakers over the years. Muh daddy always said them Studeee-bakers were the best cars he’d ever had on the farm. Yep, he used to take them cars and yank the seats out — the floors were so dang rusty the seats almost fell out — then he used to take the rest of the cars, and set ’em out in the fields for the hogs to use for their hog houses. Yep, those hogs just climbed right on in, they loved Studeee-bakers almost as much as muh daddy did!”
He said on completion of his little joke of a speech, there was stunned silence in the room. They had taken him very seriously! It was only thanks to some quick thinking on the part of another very respected Studebaker club board member [who was also a Packard Club senior member who knew my friend well, and also knew he had an interesting sense of humor], that my friend was not lynched that night!
And yes, I have confirmed the above situation really happened!
My Dad had a ’69 Country Squire, bought new at Luzurne Motors “…you can’t lose in Luzurne”. It was his move from mid-size to full-size wagon. Earlier in the year my Uncle bought a new ’69 LTD 4 door hardtop, when my Grandfather’s ’51 Chrysler Windsor blew a head gasket…he was close to finals, his last year in college, he didn’t have time to mess with it. Uncle had the 302 with drum brakes and “panty” cloth; Dad had the 302 with front disk brakes and vinyl seats. He always bought the 6 seater; preferred having the space under the floor for storage instead of extra seating. He had it until he bought a ’73 Country Sedan to replace it. Dad’s ’68 Renault R10 had 4 wheel disk brakes and radials so it wasn’t his first car with disks, not sure if it had radials but his ’73 had the infamous Firestone 500 radials which had delaminated sidewalls, fortunately found early (before we went on a trip…I think the car had 500 miles on it when they were all changed out. Anyhow, my Grandmother (Uncle’s Mother) had a premonition that we’d bought a car when we showed up at her house late…we were visiting (we never lived in the same town as any of my Grandparents) which turned out to be correct. I think this was the first car my Dad bought that I went with him when he bought it, so it stands out in my mind.
My Grandfather also had a ’63 Ford Fairlane, which he kept through ’72, when he bought his new Biscayne, which turned out to be his last car.