(first posted 5/18/2013) Note : Burt only sells locally. He is retiring, is selling everything in his lot, and is willing to make deals to clear it out. He is located in Eugene, OR. on Hwy 99. Please Do NOT CALL Burt about information, parts, service, or advice.
Some of us have manged to fall in love with all sorts of powered machinery in our lives. Ever since I figured out how to start an ancient self-propelled mower and hook a wagon to it to ride around the Yoder’s barnyard as an eight-year old, I’ve been smitten. I’ve shared my motley collection of old lawnmowers here, and I’ll get to my riding mower soon. Our town is famous for its curbside classics, but if your fancy runs to classic riding mowers and garden tractors, we have that base covered too, thanks to Burt’s.
Burt’s has been a fixture here since well before I moved here twenty years ago, selling used Lawnside Classics and such to the cognoscenti for whom a modern badge-engineered machine just won’t do. Like with so many things (appliances, etc), today most consumer riding mowers are made by just a handful of companies. Burt’s is almost a museum, but you can buy whatever catches your fancy, like a Ford to match your blue Crown Vic. Let’s take a look around.
Or this very husky Bolens, which had a rep for making tough machines. Genuine gear and shaft drive to the rear wheels; no belts here, except to the mower.
Simplicity is one of the pioneering makers of riding mowers and tractors, and they’re still independent. This is one of their big ones, with a horizontally-opposed twin (Kohler, I’m quite sure).
Wheel Horse is also a pioneering brand, from at least the early fifties, when the growth of suburbia opened up a big new market for riding mowers.
Something a bit more modest: a Montgomery Ward 8 hp rider. It looks to have been likely built by one of the mass-producers of lower end equipment, either MTD or Murray.
An Allis Chalmers, to go along with your big AC farm tractor. After John Deere and International got into the riding mower/garden tractor business, smaller farm tractor makers like AC had to do. It wouldn’t look right, having a loyal AC customer riding a John Deere on the lawn. I suspect it was built by someone else, a very common practice in this business; then and now.
Inside the fence, it’s a bit of a jumble.
Lots of John Deeres, including this 112, a direct descendent of the first JD garden tractor, the legendary 110 from 1963. Kohler engines were used, and they deserved their rep as being the best of their kind.
I drove one of these “professionally”, in a short-lived job as a gardener’s assistant at a hospital in Catonsville, MD. It was a new-ish suburban hospital, and a giant expanse of lawn. I was sent out to spread fertilizer in the spring, but I wasn’t careful about my “lines”, and a week or two later, there were very obvious pale green strips between the lusher dark green swaths. That did not endear me to the boss.
Here’s a fairly early IH Cub Cadet. IH beat JD into the garden equipment market, with their original cub Cadet from 1960. The first three years of them had a belt drive to the transmission, but was then re-engineered to have direct drive, using the transmission from the larger four-cylinder Cub. Those Cub Cadets had a superb rep too. But IH sold the Cadet line to MTD in the early 1980s, so they’ve been badge-engineered for a long time.
More recent John Deeres are Burts mainstay, in terms of sales. They’re well built, and always in demand, although their lines sold at the big-box stores are not as well built as the “genuine” JDs sold at dealers.
A view of more machines, including a couple of Hondas (the two red ones behind the one in front). Although Honda is very successful with regular lawnmowers and such, their riding mower line didn’t catch on, and they exited the market in the mid-nineties.
A colorful collection of garden tractors, featuring a wide range of styling gimmicks.
But here’s the star of Burt’s collection: a Fairbanks-Morse riding mower that dates back to the late forties or early fifties.
Here’s how it looked in its prime. Fairbanks-Morse was one of the most storied industrial pioneers and giants, dating back to 1823. It made a huge array of industrial products, and its opposed-piston diesel engines were legendary as submarine engines, and used in FM’s line of locomotives. In the post-war era, FM expanded into consumer products, including a line of riding mowers.
This is a rather unusual machine, with its single powered wheel in the back. And its mechanical arrangement is rather different too.
This one has had its original engine replaced, which had a rubber wheel on the front of its crankshaft that drove the mower deck’s big aluminum wheel, via friction. I assume the engine could be tilted to engage/disengage the mower deck.
But the original round drive belt for propulsion is still there, looking a bit frayed. Good luck finding a replacement!
That takes power to the rear, where a rather complicated arrangement with a second (vee) belt, which has an idler to act as a clutch, and then finally a chain drive to the rear wheel. And it even has a tow hitch.
American ingenuity. Sadly, FM’s fortunes took a dive in the fifties, as the result of family squabbles and a changing marketplace.
David Bradley was another pioneering manufacturer of small self-propelled tractors and farm equipment. Their new Suburban line of garden tractors came out in the latter fifties, and was soon picked up by Sears, which sold it as their Suburban.
Here’s an early Sears version. Sears was (and still is) a big source of riding mowers, and their Suburban line was highly regarded. Back in those days, 10hp was about as powerful as it got in these machines. The early John Deeres and Cub Cadets started out with 7 and 8hp engines.
Here’s the rather complicated guts of a Simplicity tractor transaxle; a mixture of belts and gears.
Another Bolens. FMC was another American industrial company that went through a lot of changes since its founding in 1883. The Bolens line was also eventually swallowed up by MTD.
Another view, although some of you are probably more interested in that police-spec CV for sale next door.
See anything that catches your fancy?
If so, Burt’s the man to see. But hurry; some of his oldest machines are starting to be bought up by restorers/collectors. Yes, there’s folks who just have to have what they rode on in their youth, or saw Dad or Grandpa ride on. I understand about that…
Note : Burt only sells locally. Do NOT CALL about information, parts, service, or advice.
Thanks for the feedback Spence, The instrument panel is also fibreglass and the steel is all flat heavy sheet folded punched and welded not pressed light metal. It is professionally built and extremely strong.
i have a 1927 coldwell model m reel riding mower withn a red wing 4 cyl gasoline engine
what is it worth
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My dad bought a Root riding mower in the early 70’s. Anyone with pictures of one or any info please post. It would be great to see one again.
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One of these? (Picture is not mine.) It says 1949..
Was it a Rugg, if not?
Thanks for the photo. That’s incredible. The one we had was from the early 70’s – (73 or 74)
After the Root, he bought a Massey Ferguson 8. Great machine with shaft driven blades. Wish I could find something designed like that today.
ENJOYED READING COMMENTS ETC …..STILL HAVE MOST TRACTORS IN PHOTOS.. BUT NEED TO CLEAR MY YARD OVER NEXT YR OR SO AND LEASE THIS LAND FOR OTHER USE… I’M PAST AGE 79 AND MY KID HAS OTHER INTERESTS..If you can visit with a truck etc and cash I’ll make the best low price I can ..Problem is SELL ONE-GET TWO…..I HAD TWO ”ROOTS’ WAY BACK-SMALL STURDY AND VARIOUS ”RUGGS”
THE FORD ”LGT’S ARE ON ”JACOBSEN” FRAMES WITH ALL PARTS FROM OTHERS INCL THE 2 SP HYDRO REAR -WHICH IS IN OTHER BRANDS AND NEVER ”FAILED” IN ANY (people search/call me for failed parts-I keep score).only.ONE SEARS roper (GT)6 speed failed..Hate that motors no longer horiz sideways as most brand 1st models were.
Hi I’m 14 and I have a 1976?? Huffy broadlawn 8hp that I got for my birthday last year that I found on Craigslist for $100 and I loved it. I cannot find any information and I’ve only seen 2 pictures online and I have looked hard. I’ve had my fun with it and I want it to have a good home and I want to sell it. Do you have a brief idea what it might be worth. I don’t have the deck. Here’s a picture of mine that I took. I have the back fenders/ storage spot. Thank you -Blaine
What if i told you i have a zero turn rider just about as old at the Fairbanks-Morse that you have with a 2 cylinder Wisconsin on it i will have to get a pic off it may be you can help me i.d. it.
I have a continental garden tractor. It has a cast iron hood. I would like to know more about it. I have not saw any others like mine. I also do not know what year it or anything that about it. What is it worth?
I am looking for a good gas cap that will fit a sears suburban lawn and garden tractor, thought you might have one. I bought this little tractor and it had been sitting out in the weather and need much repair. I am slowly restoring it. The gas cap is rusted so bad it can’t be fixed. if you have one or know where i can find one, please send me an email. i am willing to pay all shipping cost.
I am looking for a 1970s to mid 1980s sickle bar attachment for a Troy built 8 hp. Anyhelp would be greatly appreciated. Contact me at Above listed email thank you . A phone number will be provided if you so desire
Runs great! Amazing design for home made. Video on my Facebook page of it running and more pics. Scott Cason
Hello,
I just got married and my father in law fixed up a Snapper riding mower for my wedding present. It is a beauty! I’ve always wanted a mower like this since I was a little kid and my grandpa had a Snapper riding mower. I’ve been looking online and can’t find any information about fan clubs. Does anyone know of any clubs that specialize in Snapper mowers or vintage mowers?
Here’s a picture of my Snapper riding lawn mower I just got from my wife. Her dad fixed it up for me with a new motor, new paint job, and decals on the front and back
Does Burt’s Cubside yard still exist. ? Please give the location by email. i will like to go over and make some local purchases. Please send info to my email
Thanks
Yes it does. He’s located on Hwy 99 North, in Eugene, OR. But he’s clearing out his lot (so he says), and offering deals. He needs to get rid of it all.
I had to take his phone number off this post, because he was getting inundated with calls for free advice. But if you come to Eugene, you’ll be able to find him.
Can you give some prices of some of the 60s and 70s tractors. Im thinking about going in business of building and selling racing mowers and these years work great. It doesn’t have to be perfect as long as the frame is good and has most parts. Not interested in some of the better ones that wouldn’t take much to restore but looking for some decent tractors for decent prices. Thanks and I can receive photos and prices via text. I’m in NC so it would have to be worth it. Thanks, Mitch
Burt:
I saw on your website a 1971 Montgomery Wards 8 HP riding lawn mower. Do you still have one? Also, I saw a small red garden tractor with a front end loader. Do you still have it? What would you want for them? Thanks.
I’m looking for restoration projects what is the rough price range for what he has.
Where are you located
can mower decks be swapped model nos. 917.256501 to a 917.271022 craftsman both are 42″ cut
all them riding mower,s and not one eclipse ranger !! wish i could find one my self -that is what my dad had !! 1959 eclipse ranger model 14 – i currently reside in south florida 609-891-9186 .,
looking for a decks, john deere 210 (32″ – 38″) Thanks!
Hi, do you have any of the mowers still left? I am looking for one with a front end loader. I am also looking for a 3 point back blade around 48″ for my Craftsman FF 20. I am in Idaho so I’m within driving distance.
Thanks
Does anyone know who made an industrial lawn tractor whose drive shaft was part number 510448? Date on it says 12-4-1959
Hi
I found your web site somehow. Wow. What a great place!!
Love the pics..
I am so hoping you can find a used Drag Link for my ol hand me down 1998 Murray lawn tractor.
I rewired it and got it running but the ball joints keep falling out of the socket no matter how many hacks I try. I think I’ve tried everything possible to try to hold it together. It just won’t steer without a replacement.
Model # 464308a 42″/20Hp
The part # for the left side drag link # 93061E701MA
I’m a disabled Army veteran and it would take me 6 months to save the money they want for a new one. So I am so hoping you can help me.
There’s no mowing until I fix this and I cannot stand or walk to use a push mower. So yeah I’m screwed. Please help!!
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Thanks so much.
Happy Father’s Day!!
Scott
Anyone ever seen one of these? it’s a MTD model 132-380. 1971 I think. It’s a child’s mower, 25″ deck, 1 forward speed and 1 reverse. Pull start in the dash board and a 5 hp Briggs. I restored it a few years back but really don’t do anything with it. It runs and cuts great and would be fun for a kid to play with, of course the child would have to be 18, wear a helmet, safety glasses and ear protection. Wow, I miss the old days!
Can you tell me about this toy given to me to restore as a gift
Oscar,
I just got a basket case tractor that looks like the one in this pic. Do you have any info on what type it is.
Where is your lawn tractor used yard located please? I’m interest in buying an old lawn tractor. Thanks.
Do you have any or an idea where to purchase a ford push mower?
Looking for a ford push mower any ideas?
Great read looking a seller like the Lawnside Classics: Burt’s – vintage and used riding mower and tractor heaven in the eastern Royersford PA zip 19468 are as I’m looking for a larger size used compact tractor or larger size front mount Mowers. Can someone send me info of someone in my driving area. Thanks Ernie
Where is this guy at?! I want to check this out. Someone please send me an email of the location if you can.
Hwy 99 in Eugene
Imagine my surprise when I saw the opening picture with the faded Ford lawn tractor! I had not seen one of those, or its Jacobsen “brother” in many years.
The two were identical except for color, graphics (decals) and front ends. There were not many engine enclosed lawn tractors in 1975 when I did the Industrial Design work that created the look for these almost twins. The side panel was symmetrical along its horizontal center line; therefore allowing the same dies to stamp out both sides. That tooling cost savings sold the design to both Jacobsen and Ford. DFO
It’s always interesting to hear from people personally involved with the design of any “Curbside Classic”. Thanks for sharing!
You all are so lucky. When I lived at home our yard wasn’t big enough for a riding mower. I got stuck with a beat up old White Stores push mower. When I moved out suddenly our yard was big enough for a riding mower! THANKS DAD! Same with the TV. When I lived at home we couldn’t afford a remote control TV. When I moved out, suddenly they bought a remote control TV. Man was I abused.
I feel your pain, when I moved out, my folks bought a new small tractor and new trucks. they said they used the money they used to feed me with to buy them…lol
A lawn tractor, completely overgrown with grass and weeds. Love it!!
I think I found that FMS Mower. It’s from 1955 and made for the “take it easy club”.
I just drove by there and he’s still pretty loaded.
Reading this article made me go digging for the attached picture. In April 1957, I was 4 months away from my 5th birthday. This would have been my first encounter operating something with four wheels & an engine. By the look on my face you can tell I was enjoying every minute of it. Anyone with knowledge of the manufacturer of this mower, let me know. Just for the record, I gave up wearing cowboy hats many decades ago.
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do you guys want a couple more, I have a 76 White and a old craftsman I want to get rid of. I can deliver them.
I havent seen any thing about General Electric Elec Trac tractors .1970s? sears also had electric lawn tractors. High maintainance.
Recently ran across this mower and it was so unique, I had to purchase it. I have no clue who is the manufacture is, but did find a Toro Mfg Co sticker on it. Toro wants a serial number and that is gone from sticker. Can anyone identify it for me.
need a Peerless transmission 5 speed ty
This site is really good for viewing old iron. I have a Bolens Surburban 24 with the original briggs from ’67 on it. It’s perfect for my .16 acre lot that I live on. A buddy of mine found it out by the curb and gave it to me. Its getting really hard to find this old stuff anymore.
Anyone ever hear of a roof lariat 26. I have one but can’t seem to find any info on it. I found a old paper ad. Once from 1972. Any info will be appreciated. Thanks.
Do have a steering kit for a roper yard tractor model # yth160cr? call me 812754289 i am kenneth Franklin The shaft has to be 23 quarters long.
id love to know were you guys are stationed at in the good old usa
Looking for parts 1975 26″ craftsman rear engine riding mower. 325-277-5179
Can anyone tell me the exact model of this hood? I can’t seem to find one anywhere! Only been able to find one and would like another one.
I admit, I have the sickness. Right now, I’m down to only 17 riding mowers. It all started 25 years ago with a Snapper classic. After I got the drive disk replaced, and the deck lined up right, it was all down hill from there. Some of my more obscure are one of those Allis Chalmers units, but built by Gravely. I also have a 1962 Wards with the giant saddle and the chrome swing bar steering arm. My favorite though is an Original from 1960 by IH, the first Cub Cadet. Mine is a very low SN and may be the oldest running Cub extant. BTW, the Kohler 8HP engine actually puts out “8” honest HP at 3600RPM. Today, the same engine would be rated about 18HP, but only run at 3450. A minor correction, the Original Cub engine drove a belt down to a jackshaft, which used a single disk clutch, and then by PTO shaft back to the axle. It was a hybrid belt, shaft, clutch, trans drive, unlike a slipping belt from the engine to the trans.
If you go looking for a vintage machine, here’s a few hints for you. Look for a B&S engine with a red cover. It will have “IC” printed on it(except if it’s worn off). That is an ‘Industrial Commercial’ engine, and highly prized. Made from 1959-1988. A very few engines came with black paint but must have the “IC” or “I/C” moniker denoting a very good engine. The engine and trans is everything on vintage mowers. Decks can be changed, tires, belts, spindles are avail. But – the trans is the next big player. Avoid the drive types that use a variable size, or Salsbury type rear pulley to change gears. These wear belts very fast, plus the pulleys often wear or get pitted, and then belts wear even faster! Rear eng Snappers are the best bet if one can find them for $100-300 range. Cleaned up, they will sell for $600 or more, with about $100-150 in parts to restore.
Hey Burt! Any chance you have a Peerless 2409 Transaxle? I am trying to repair on off a 1970 Ford 140. You may be my only hope. Thanks!!
Ken
He won’t respond to this. You can try calling him. 541-343-8358