I’m going to level with you, my fellow CCurbivores: Thailand was not the greatest place on Earth to find CC fodder. I did find a few presentable classics here and there, but the majority of my Thai finds were clapped out and/or highly dodgy oddballs that seemed about as original as Cher’s face. I have a few Thai CCs left over in my files for later, so I’ll take you back there someday. But I’ve now decamped and moved on to pastures new – and perhaps greener.
Yes, it’s Nippon time for T87 – two time zones further to the East and several parallels north from Thailand, but more importantly in a place that has a vibrant automotive culture and tradition. Of course, these days, said automotive culture is made up of angry-looking minivans and ridiculous kepi-like kei cars, but there is hope (and I’m not talking of Mitsuoka – that’s not hope, that’s welcome comic relief). My hope, for instance, is that Toyota et al. might one day wake up and realize that their long-lasting love affair with the hardtop sedan (they’re definitely not ‘saloons,’ in my lexicon), which lasted well into the ‘90s, ought to be rekindled.
The rakishly lowered roofline of this Mark II is a case in point. It’s the antithesis of the GM / Chrysler “formal look” of the same period. It just looks so much better that I wish I could go back in time, capture Irv Rybicki and whoever the f#%k designed the K-cars, and plop them in front of one of these to show them the error of their ways. Not that it was any better in Europe, really. The ‘80s/’90s were a pretty lousy period for car design, in my opinion. But along with the horrid Austin Montegos, Citroën AXs and Ford Orions (to name but three – my personal blacklist is quite long for ‘80s/’90s cars) that I despised while in my formative years, the Japanese cars seen in Europe back then were also very dull. We certainly never got anything like the Mark II. In the US and Australia, the similar Cressida was available, but it lacked this car’s awesome “pillared hardtop” party trick, thinner headlights and slimmer bumpers.
I’m not blaming the Japanese automakers for their strategy, but it does have its drawbacks. Some say the Italians do the same thing with their wine – export the plonk and keep the good stuff. There’s something to be said for that, but it also means that when a new competitor with better plonk comes along (e.g. Chile, New Zealand or South Africa), your exports take a hit. In the Japanese automakers’ case, the competitors were the Koreans, who succeeded in capturing a slice of the global market that the Japanese will probably never see again.
Despite emanating from automotive design’s bleakest era, this Mark II is just the way I like my CCs, with just enough tackiness in the detailing and doilies on the seats to warrant a short post. To give it its full name, it is a Toyota Mark II Grande Hardtop (X80) – an early model of the 6th generation of the Mark II, originally a derivative of the Corona. These hadotoppu Mark IIs were made from mid-1988 to 1992 and came with a range of 6-cyl. engines from 2 to 3 litres, unlike the more mundane high-roof non-Grande Mark IIs that usually had a 4-cyl. and made for decent taxis, but not much else, at least on the JDM.
There aren’t exactly tons of older cars going around in the streets of my little corner of central Honshu – this is Japan, after all, where patriotic duty and government incentives drive the car market harder than anywhere else in Asia. But having been here for about six weeks now, I’m confident that there are some really juicy finds to be unearthed here. To be continued, then. And a big konnichiwa to Jim Brophy – we’re hunting on the same turf now, but I’m sure this place is big enough for the both of us.
One of the most ubiquitous sights on Siberian roads throughout the late 90s-mid 2000s and still around in decent numbers even now. Most of them where white like this one, Japanese really like white cars is my understanding. Infinitely tunable with the JZ motor and many ragged out examples are now living out their final days as drift cars with the Russian version of the vape set. But originally these came as a total shock to guys who previously maybe were lucky enough to drive a Volga. Plenty of ride comfort, impeccable quality, extreme durability. Performance and options (air conditioning, automatic transmission, power accessories!) that were total novelties to guys coming out of Soviet car ownership. The proud new Russian owners were fascinated by the relics of the first Japanese owner left in the car: the ubiquitous white seat doilies, the cucumber air fresheners, etc. Importers and sellers of the JDM cars in the port cities of the Russian Far East quickly started to sell these accessories, along with spare parts and even Japanese whiskey. At one point in the 2000s something like 75% of the male population of the Russian Far East was involved with the used JDM car trade as their occupation.
When I research JDM cars like this one or the Crown, it’s crazy how many Russian sites / pics come up.
I’ve never experienced the Volga, so I don’t know how it compares ride-wise, but judging by the interior, it’s understandable that so many folks in Vladivostok and the like go mad for these older RWD Japanese jobs.
Wow! Your posts from Thailand were fascinating already, but I’m incredibly looking forward to your accounts of the JDM curbside classics! In my opinion, Japan has the most interesting domestic auto industry of any country, by the the sheer number of different models and tiniest niches of the market. It must be great to have an occupation that allows for such possibilities of international car spotting!
+1… I look forward to what you dig up in Japan. Your SE Asia posts have been outstanding.
” It must be great to have an occupation that allows for such possibilities of international car spotting!”
My God yes. This is the best sentence I’ve ever read on CC.
And how do I get Tatra87s job?
The 4 door hardtop look is one of my favourites. Toyota needs to return to this soon, to end my SUV hell.
+3 T87 based in JDM. Only pure bliss can emerge.
I hope I can rise to the occasion and to your lofty expectations.🙏
such hope is but the merest whisps within the tornado of your talent.
The little dingus perched atop each fender is noteworthy. It’s not a turn signal repeater, and it contains no light bulb or other light source, nor does it have any wire. It’s a clear plastic blob in a chrome housing. There’s an optical fibre cable coming off the bottom; a hole in the fender accommodates it. The other end of the fibre cable cams into a hole in the reflector of one of the front lights—could be the front position (“parking”) light, or could be the headlamp; I don’t recall. There is a translucent green filter laminated or moulded into the bottom of the clear plastic blob. Result: when the lights are switched on, these dinguses glow with a soft green light. The idea is to show the driver where the car’s front corners are—both dinguses are visible from the driving seat—and to provide a helpful indication that the lights are switched on. Certainly a nifty item, but no longer really usable on many of today’s cars with their rounder, more sloped front ends.
I have a pair of these dinguses, new in Toyota packaging, in the garage of my doomed family home. They likely won’t survive the currently-ongoing clearout and closedown.
Well, I learned something new today. I’m very impressed that A) you knew the intricacies of these things, and B) that somehow you actually came into possession of a pair of them.
Not to mention, knew the highly technical name for this item, “dingus”. Though I think the plural is “dingi”.
That is such a great nugget.
Your dingus was on the Crown Comfort Super Saloon we had back in Myanmar. (Dodgy-sounding sentence, isn’t it?). There was also that little bumper pole on the left corner or the car. That pole (schmingus?) was also giving out a faint green light when the headlamps we on, probably the same way you described.
Interestingly, both dingus and schmingus are absent from the base-level Crown Comforts that are still used as taxis in Japan.
Sort of resembles an Lexus ES250
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1. I am glad you got that museum covered before you left Thailand.
2. I too miss the 4 door hardtop in both its full and its pillared versions.
3. I love the bigger Japanese cars that we never see. Like this one.
4. An old car with clear headlights – what a novelty.
5. Oooh, can I put in a request for some JDM Honda Odysseys?
6. Jim Grey and I have shared a territory for quite some time, you will make it work.
1. The pleasure was all mine
2. Amen to that. Hardtops are still plentiful here, but this will not last. Not sure when the last ones were made – probably the mid-Naughties. I’ll have to look this up. Nice idea for a post, that.
3. Ditto here, though their older kei cars / trucks are also pretty interesting. But also pretty rare now…
4. Pre-plastic headlights, I suppose? Some 10-15 year old cars have the cataracts..
5. I’ll be sure to put these on my radar.
6. I don’t doubt it!
Tatra: This is timely. I am just starting to learn about JDM cars and what is now the common availability of landed, customs cleared cars at dealers specializing in them. I am especially warming to the ’90s Toyotas.
I am intrigued by two I see at one dealer: a ’93 Mark II Grande (IJZ-GE 2.5 litre inline six) and a ’93 Crown Majesta type C (IUZ-FE 4.0 litre V-8 – same as Lexus LS400/Toyota Celsior).
These JDM cars seem in great condition with low miles. They are what you’ve called “hardtop sedans”; I admire the look. And they are RWD. What’s not to like except getting used to driving on the right side of the car?
Daniel Stern: I’ve learned that the “dingus” on some of these JDM Toyotas actually are masts that can be raised by a switch on the dash (some Celsiors) and that there is another similar device on the left rear of a few cars. Did this originate with Toyota or with the 140 series Mercedes S class cars?
That’s a different kind of dingus, called a “parking pole” or “bumper pole”. The fancier ones are like mini power antennas with a dashboard raise/lower switch and a little light atop, usually green.
As for what’s not to like about JDM vehicles in a country like Canada or the States: well, don’t drive at night, for one thing. And wrong-hand-drive vehicles are very significantly more likely to be involved in a crash. And parts and service hassles abound. And good luck at the drive-thru or the border crossing.
The successor to this car series, currently the Marx X, is scheduled to be discontinued at the end of the year. Toyota is issuing a special edition Mark X to close this car’s history out.
For older Japanese cars the happy hunting grounds is likely New Zealand that seems to be where they end up and are kept on the road long after their scrap by date expires, these MK2 Cresta Grande etc also came with the 2.4 diesel usually assembled into the Hilux ute or Surf SUV to supplement the range of four and six cylinder petrol engines Toyota had on offer, there are quite a few survivors floating about, Toyota’s legendary reliability is what eventually kills them people assume they will be reliable with zero maintenance forever and now that easy finance is back its cheaper and easier to get another newer fancier flasher import fresh off the boat than pay to maintain the one you have and it dies due to lack of a vital fluid,
Turbo diesel 2.4 four powered Cresta behind my brothers Japanese tuner built Rx7.
Seems faster than friends slightly newer Nissan Laurel NA 2.4 six diesel.
I’m guessing the Cresta’s previous owner was a boy racer as has larger than stock exhaust and I also can’t remember if has a K&N style cone filter or none at all -sucking air straight into the turbo.
Never mind the Cresta- just love the RX7….
That is a scrumptious motor vehicle. Living in rural Japan (yes, that actually existed) many decades ago, I’ve never gotten over my desire for motor vehicles like these.
4 Wet Willies out of 5.
Tatra, I’ll miss the fascinating Thai finds but if there’s one car market that’s really fascinated me yet has remained somewhat hard to find information on, it’s the Japanese market. I’m looking forward to some awesome finds although I know the new car-heavy streets of Japan will pose a challenge.
And yes, four-door hardtops are cool. If you find a Mazda Persona, I’ll just plotz!
There was one recently on the Car Spotters Australia Facebook page. Last week or so.
20 August, so the week before. SA plates. Plotz away!
So much want!
I’d just love there to be a nice, English-language encyclopedia of the JDM market. The sheer variety is dizzying and that’s in large part due to the multiple dealer networks automakers had. It almost feels like every Japanese automaker had its own Sloan ladder of sorts.
I believe cjiguy is always chiming in with fun JDM facts. Maybe he should write the encyclopedia!
I probably could write an encyclopedia on the JDM market, lol. Just for you William; this generation Mark II could be had with side window mirror wipers:
Amazing. I’ll have to keep an eye out for this…
So, any Qs I might have about JDM cars go to you, cjiguy? That will be of great help 😉
Side window wipers? Absolutely brilliant fun fact! These are right up there in weirdness with Nissan’s Y31 Cima rear view mirror wipers, which look odd in the brochure and just wrong in person.
Oh my god! Really? This is the hardtop sedan from the Japanese hardtop sedan era that fascinates me the most. To my knowledge, it was the last pillarless hardtop sedan produced not just in Japan but anywhere in the world.
The above Mazda Persona / Eunos 300 were introduced after this X80 series of Toyotas, and outlasted them in production (barely) by 3 months. They are also true hardtops:
Love JDMs and love Mazdas – the Eunos 300 is something I haven’t seen before, although I knew they did hard-top variants of the 626.
The T180 Toyota Carina ED / Corona EXiV was the last true pillarless hardtop sedan, arriving in September 1989 and bowing out in 1992/3.
I’ve seen the odd import hardtop, but the standard Cressida for this generation is still around Melbourne a lot. And to my eyes that sedan has a better shape than this.
My opinion on their comparative virtues is diametric to yours, but within a small (and possibly side-wiper-cleaned) window, I will on this occasion forgive your error, as an error it must ofcourse be.
日本へようこそ! Welcome to Japan! Great post and yes, there’s so much here we could have one hundred contributors and still not cover it all….
Where in Japan are you based? Jim Brophy
Arigato, Lincoln-san. We have yet to firmly take root somewhere – when we do, it’ll probably be Tokyo, in due course. For the moment, we are in Gunma prefecture, out in the sticks.
Beautiful area – I bet there are some real finds out in Gunma. We’re here in the sticks of western Tokyo – Tachikawa probably closest big city.
Hope your move goes smoothly. Jim.
An excellent move for you and us! I too applaud more JDM offerings and as a fan of all things Cressida this one is a welcome find. And it also starts things off in a good way, especially as it is the first time I have ever seen a picture where one of the doilies is slightly out of place. I suspect a slightly out of place doily in Japan is analogous to a missing driver side door panel in Eugene as far as stages of beaterdom go. I look forward to seeing if this theory holds water…
Yes, Cressida fans such as yourself would love it here, as I will demonstrate in an upcoming post. Resist the temptation to read it ahead of publication, Jim. Be strong.
Does T87 joining Lincolnman make for a full-fledged CC Asia Bureau? We may need new business cards. 🙂
The Land Of The Rising Name-Length, also the Land Of the Car-Market SlicerDicer (resulting inevitably in the Land Of The Astonishing Sub-Variant).
I look forward to your endeavours, and the appearance of the best bootlid-filling name. Incidentally, I understand the Ford Ka was tried in your new country, but failed because everyone thought it wasn’t finished yet.
The best of Super Bongo High-Life Window Outlook Special Velour wishes to you.
If you want to compute an overall measure of how interesting your Thai CC’s were, you should probably go with the median. The arithmetic mean would be badly skewed by the Lancia Aprilia!
I am not in the least interested in Japanese cars. But your language games just made my day!