(first posted 11/24/11) A turbocharged Japanese drive train combined with Italian styling on a British chassis. Sounds quite tempting doesn’t it? How about if I add the name De Tomaso into the mix too? Fantastic! And now add in Innocenti? And Daihatsu? So maybe now I’ve lost you. Our featured little cross-cultural car is a 1982 Innocenti Turbo De Tomaso. Rather a mouthful with that name but an interesting car nonetheless.
Innocenti was an Italian machinery company initially known for steel tubing that later produced Lambretta scooters after World War II. They soon jumped into bed with British Motor Corporation and started off by building license built copies of the Farina Austin A40 above.
Their most well-known model was likely the Spider (above), which was an Austin-Healey Sprite MkII in a smart, Ghia styled suit. They also produced versions of the Mini, Allegro (called the Regent) and Austin/Morris 1100. The Mini in particular was a popular and hot item. Its sporty qualities really suited Italy; maybe more so than the UK.
By 1972 BMC had become a part of British Leyland, and Innocenti was purchased after a leadership crisis. The Innocenti versions were quite often better built and had better interiors than their British built counterparts. By this time, the Mini’s styling was starting to look rather old fashioned and Innocenti wanted to update it.
Bertone was given the nod to update the looks, but the grimy bits were still all Mini. The result was an up-to-date, boxy looking super mini in three door hatchback form that appeared in 1974. Called the Mini 90L with the 998cc engine, and 120L with the 1275cc engine, the Innocenti was slightly heavier than a standard Mini, but of course more practical with the hatchback. In a classic case of hedging bets, the old style Mini continued to be sold as well by Innocenti until 1975. Unfortunately for Innocenti, its parent, British Leyland, went bankrupt and so found itself sold to De Tomaso. Only the Mini based models were continued.
The naming gets a bit confusing here, but starting in 1976 a sporty version of the Innocenti Mini was launched with the larger 1275cc A-series engine and called the Innocenti Mini de Tomaso. By 1982 the long in the tooth British motor was cast out in favor of Daihatsu two- and three-cylinder power plants. The Innocenti Mini de Tomaso continued as the performance version and received an IHI turbocharger equipped version of the CB60 993 cc three-cylinder Daihatsu engine good for 65-70hp.
The model lasted until 1987, and was sold in limited numbers in Canada. They were generally sold by small independent dealers that also carried Skodas, Dacias or Ladas. These days they very occasionally show up for sale, but in either basket case or low mileage, mint condition. I’m convinced there isn’t a daily driver condition one in the country, but would love to be proven wrong.
This one I found on a local dealer’s back lot. I suspect it is one of the few De Tomaso cars to ever see snow. It later came up for sale for what I recall was the low, low price of $1000. Of course this could only be considered a down payment if you considered a restoration. Parts sourcing is likely an issue and probably any of the Mini bits left in the chassis would be the easiest to source. The drive train bits would come from a Daihatsu Charade but they aren’t particularly common anymore. For trim pieces you’d probably have as much of a chance of finding a lower radiator hose for a Corvair.
The red one below is another one I found in a backyard in a nearby town.
It shares the yard with a Nissan Micra, which was another car sold in Canada but not the US. The 1950s Chevrolet is the odd man out in this trio.
I had no idea that these existed. A little education for my holiday. I love these little-known oddballs.
What’s more astonishing is that British Leyland didn’t present this car as the proper Mini successor. Their Italian branch had more or less single handedly designed and executed a completely new and modern body to the Mini underpinnings. British Leyland had effectively all their work done for them. Another case of the not invented here methodology. Instead, they gave it all away to Alejandro De Tomaso when he bought the Innocenti works outright.
Exactly my sentiments, and at the time too. Quite a brilliant update. Never sat in one, but I suspect the increased height made it that much more roomy too.
I think it also improved upon the classic Mini’s bus driver style seating position.
BMC and BL in the 1960s and 70s is a classic case study of management incompetence on numerous fronts, combining arrogance and chronic underinvestment, spiced up with toxic labour relations. It was apparently offered the Bertone Mini but refused, apparently because it wasn’t home grown.
And it wasn’t the first time. Pininfarina, which had had a long relationship with Austin Morris, privately developed a remarkable design on top of the Austin 1800 platform. This was revealed in 1967, a year before the NSU Ro80 and 7 years before the Citroën CX (which closely resembles it) but was rejected out of hand. Now, given how badly BL cars were made, maybe it would have had the same trajectory as the later Rover SD1 but what a “what if?”…
What a shame this wasn’t made instead of the Land Crab and the horrid Princess.
+1. This still looks modern; the Princess still looks odd in a way only BL managed to do.
At least it wasn’t a complete waste
it became a very successful Matchbox car released in 1970
in a nice metallic gold
probably millions made
it was called the BMC 1800 Pininfarina
No argument from my corner either. It (and the Innocenti update) represent some of the biggest missed opportunuties made by any car maufacturer. Stupid, stupid idiots.
The add for the new Mini is rather a mistake, as the girl outclasses the car. Of course it may be my personal history with brunettes and hatchbacks.
So I wasn’t too far off with my Daihatsu Charade guess, although just by luck.
rockauto.com has Daihaitsu Charade parts beginning 1988 model year. Not as rare as it appears. Alas, they do not stock radiator hose for a 66 Corvair.
Daihatsu Charades are common enough here but Ive never seen one dressed in an Italian suit.
That “Lil’ Red Wagon” Dakota conversion in the first pic is more interesting to me.
I’ve seen that a couple times. Made from 1990-1992 the Li’l Red Express based on the Dodge Dakota. All had the 5.2L V8 engine and sold in small numbers. Dealer option produced by LER Industries of Edwardsburg, Michigan included fiberglass step sidebox, exhaust stacks and decals. I believe they are quite rare.
Here are some shots of it with the snow:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daveseven/5714005887/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/daveseven/5714004963/
I never heard of those, I assumed the one in the pics was an owner-modified custom. Looks neat though!
I want one! I know it would punish me but I really want it!
Korean power, British chassis and an Italian name? Sounds like someone borrowed a chapter from the AMC playbook.
Japanese power… Daihatsu is a Toyota subsidiary.
Hasn’t anyone noticed the Citroen-Cadillac in the background of the red Spider’s photo? Is that an infinity symbol on its rear door?
Can anyone identify the big silver sedan behind the Spider (third picture)? It has some of the styling cues of a mid 1960s Cadillac, but the belt line looks more like a ’71 Riviera (and I think I see euro-style one piece headlights, not sealed beams). Could it be a custom of some sort?
It looks like an Henri Chapron-built Citroen SM sedan.
That, my friends, is a Citroen SM Opera. A super-rare variant of the Citroen SM, built by Chapron as a head-of-state limo. Wikipedia tells me that seven were ever made. Here’s the exact car from the Spider photo; the sticker on the side says “90 years creative technology”, though I have no idea what kind of creative technology they’re celebrating, but it had be pretty damn creative to justify defacing this beauty.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/1974CitroenSMOpera.jpg
Thanks for identifying it. I felt a definite Citroën vibe, but the cropping of the photo made me think it had a longer trunk, which threw me off, and that easily recognizable front end was obscured. Quite a sleek looking car. Citroën has to be the only company who sold a car as crude as the 2CV alongside cars as sleek and futuristic as the DS and SM.
Formal look done right.
A pizza joint near my parents house used an Innocenti Turbo as a delivery vehicle in the late ’80’s. They didn’t have it for long…I don’t think it could handle the abuse from the lead-footed ham fisted delivery drivers.
The turbo Charade engine shares its bottom end with the diesel they are tough as nails leadfooted driver cant hurt one, an ex GFs dad had a turbo Charade it thrived on being thrashed.
@Birddog: Japanese power, actually. Daihatsu is Toyota’s budget brand, at the opposite end of the scale from Lexus.
More accurately, Daihatsu is a formerly independent Japanese automaker of which Toyota owned a significant stake from the late ’60s and that Toyota has (surprisingly gradually) absorbed.
I can’t recall ever seeing one of these, although it doesn’t have a memorable look. If I had been in the vicinity of the featured car, I would’ve been initially drawn to the Li’l Red Express Dakota.
Fear not – I wrote that one up too!
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-dodge-li%E2%80%99l-red-express-%E2%80%93-dodge-dakota-edition/
Thanks!
There was one of these in my neighborhood in the early ’80s. It was owned by an italian family for their two stylish teenage daughters.
I believe they also had a house made of white brick with gold spray painted lions flanking the end of the driveway too. Just the thing in “Tony Creek”
Despite the fact that I walked by it every day on my way home from school I didn’t give it a second thought. I was too busy thinking about the rough looking 67 Impala for sale up the street from it..
I’ve always loved retro hatchbacks like these one’s.
I’ll take the ’54 Chevy, thank you. 🙂
Not to digress, but did you notice the Citroen SM Opera resting behind the Spider? Those special SMs would be a great CC feature
We got there eventually….
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/citroen/car-show-classic-1972-citroen-sm-opera-the-final-stretch/
I doubt those four Italian musicians and their instruments could all fit inside…
In the 1980s when deTomaso owned Maserati the Biturbo bodies were made by Inocenti. I am not sure if Maserati shipped the drivetrain to Inocenti and they did the assembly also.
Wow that spyder is sweet. A mini TR6. Great, eye-opening article.
I guess you could say that the 3 cylinder engines in these Italian-Japanese Minis were a foreshadowing of the current MINI with it’s 3 cylinder, turbocharged,, German engines.
You would think BL would have jumped at the chance to update the Mini…particularly since the body style change would have done away with a big expense involved in building the Mini. The original Mini’s body is built from dozens of small panels that must be welded together. The Innocenti, however, used fewer/larger panels and was thus (slightly?) cheaper to produce.
BL’s actions or inaction are a little easier to grasp (if not accept) if you consider that the Metro was conceived long before it actually debuted — I think it was in the works from maybe 1970–71 and didn’t arrive until late 1980. The Metro was basically an updated, hatchback Mini that was redesigned to be less expensive to build, so I can see BL management saying, “Well, this is all very nice, but we already have an in-house project to do all that.” Which they did, but not until the ’80s.
The snow covered Innocenti reminds me of similar ones I use spot around Edmonton now and then. I liked the styling and overall packaging but knowing the car’s Italian foundation I knew it would not be a good investment and Sure to be a rust bucket in a few short years.
Really unfortunate, as it could have been a fun car in the spring, summer and fall.
never knew these cars have existed, for some odd reason the front end resembles a 1979-82 Mazda 626 (US) or a first generation Toyota Tercel.
Those were quite popular in Israel in the 80s and early 90s but – unless I am greatly mistaken – the Israeli dealer got the concession to sell Daihatsus there and gradually dropped the Innocentis.
The dealer that sold these in Winnipeg was at the extreme north end of the city and also sold Ladas. Even well into the 2000’s there were several brand new, zero mileage Innocentis just sitting outside, ruined by the elements. Sad, I thought.
Great post. My old Fiat mechanic in Vancouver, Italian Motors on Commercial, sold new Innocentis and Ladas. My guy Claudio actually didn’t much like the Lada – “Russian 124 – no soul”..Well, he was primarily an Alfisti and headed the local Alfa club, so no real surprise there. Ladas didn’t sell well in Vancouver but in the early 80s they did fairly well in Ontario and Quebec; tough winter cars but hideously rust-prone…
But I was actually quite intrigued by Innocenti at the time – I knew the history, knew the cars from European travel and my car-obsession, thought the Daihatsu 3 cyl might make them relatively reliable, etc., and had I stayed in BC I might’ve done it as they seemed to be a great, fun, big-city driver, just like the old Mini, which had stopped coming to Canada in 1981. Frankly, had I stayed I was probably more likely to buy an old X 1/9 off Claudio, so I probably dodged two bullets by leaving town).
Another quirkily appealing import was the water-cooled rear-engine Skoda 120. In the 80s I recall the UK automotive media considered Skoda to be Czech for “bad car”, but by the late 80s they were actually pretty good and in fact history has been kind to these cars, which certainly had personality. I recall the dealer on Three Road in Richmond, BC, the suburb of Vancouver where my folks lived, having a row of these alongside the street with hoods raised, drawing a fair bit of attention as you’d be looking at (the fairly large) open trunk space.
Not much sheer weirdness in the new car market anymore, alas. Citroen C4 Cactus? Please, might as well be a Kia with siding….
I have a 1985 innocenti that I will be parting out if anyone is interested
Hi Ray,
I’m interested in parts if you still have the car.
Thanks
Ben
We got a front drive “DeTomaso” in the U.S. as well. They’re very rare nowadays. Anyone remember the name? No, I’m not talking about the TC by Maserati.
The Dodge Omni O24 comes to mind:
Yes ! I think I’ve seen maybe one my whole life. This thing makes the Plymouth Cricket look commonplace. Anyone seen an 024 DeTomaso on the road in the past ten years ? Instead of this, Iaccoca should’ve green lighted the Turismo Spyder . It bore a strong resemblance to the 308 GTB.
Here’s the Turismo Spyder.
I WANT that little sypder, like I want a britone Ukulele!
“…you’d probably have as much of a chance of finding a lower radiator hose for a Corvair.”
That put a smile on my face!
Just for fun I did a google search. Turns out there’s forty-odd suppliers on Fleabay claiming to offer Corvair radiator hoses (yeah, sure, sounds about right), plus of course our favourite supplier of fictional parts, O’Reilly. Well, you can get this far into their system…
https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/belts-hoses-16454/radiator-hose-16540/radiator-hose-11341/c043b097d1fa/1965/chevrolet/corvair
An ex girlfriends father had a turbo Charade for a little while that will be where they got the engine for the Italian mini the block and bottom end began life as a diesel so strong as done right these would have been a wee rocket.
Very good You Tube video about the Innocenti Mini:
Here’s an interesting article on the car.
https://driventowrite.com/2022/07/05/beyond-pantera/
Hi friends please advise if the shock absorbers are the same as a classic austin mini