Well, I went and did it again. Yes that’s right, the last car in this author’s Cars of a Lifetime is another Land Rover. A sickness you say? Well, yes it is, but it’s an enjoyable (most of the time) sickness, like sex addiction or excessive happiness. Oh sure, I could give you all sorts of logical reasons why I chose a LR to replace my van. Like; what other one hundred inch wheelbase vehicle can haul seven people, is excellent off road, well mannered on road, very comfortable, can pull a good sized trailer, etc. But none of those is the real reason.
Because I like it. Yes, I can admit it. That really is tough for me because I like to try and be imagine that I am as rational as possible. But that charade can only hold up so long after one has purchased a Land Rover. And I suspect that all Land Rover, nay, all British car owners need to come to this sort of cathartic nexus. To have the courage to admit that you bought something just because you liked it even though you knew it was irrational. If I had wanted to be rational there are other vehicles that fit the bill. I required a vehicle that was four-wheel-drive, seated seven or more, and could pull a trailer. Of course the obvious choice would be a Suburban, Expedition or Excursion. But where’s the fun in obvious?
If I was not in need of hauling around all of those people, I would really prefer a Range Rover. I have loved Range Rovers as long as I can remember. Most of my time is spent on-road not off, but when we do go off-road, it tends to be a bit more than the average All-Wheel-Drive car can cope with. As you may know we considered a Mercedes E320 4Matic wagon or a Volvo XC/VX. But both of us felt that we would be unable or at least unwilling to drive them down to some of our favorite off-road spots. For one thing, even if you do get stuck exactly the same amount in a truck/SUV as in an AWD car, it’s a lot easier to dig out a higher ground clearance truck-based rig. That’s why the first thing we did was to remove the running boards from the Land Rover.
Since I could not have a Range Rover, and I could not afford an LR3/4, a nicely equipped Discovery II was my next best thing. Yes, I know about Lexus, my good friend has a Lexus LX450. Somehow Japanese interior appointments just don’t cut it for me. Haven’t you ever heard the quote; “the Japanese spent years trying to make plastic look like wood. And the British spent years trying to make wood look like plastic”? Sure the seat controls on the Land Rover are in the most inane place imaginable, sure the cruise control switch is hidden behind the steering wheel. But for some reason the very things that would piss me off on a Japanese or American vehicle end up coming across as a bit endearing on an English one. Maybe its my bloodline. And of course the Land Cruiser/LX450 is not quite the machine off-road the the LR is. And somehow it manages to get even worse gas mileage.
But regarding this Land Rover in particular; as you may already know, I have owned a Discovery series 1 in the past. I found it to be a very enjoyable experience, on the whole. And after we sold it we did miss it. The Suburban it replaced did everything it did, but the Land Rover just did it better. That Disco, however, had a lot of issues. When we bought it, we really did not know enough about them to make an informed decision, but I felt that we did now.
The van was incapacitated (and it still is) so we needed something to replace it. One of the things I most wanted to avoid was another project vehicle. I really don’t mind quirky or higher maintenance type vehicles like LR or Jaguar but what I do mind is having to rebuild engines often (a la VW air cooled) or having to drop the transmission (700-R4), or some such big nasty job. I ain’t the grease monkey I used to be I guess. If it can be diagnosed with a computer and replaced without major disassembly, I am OK with that. You all may not know it, but I got pretty darn good with European engine management systems and computer diagnostics when I used to work on that sort of thing all of the time. So I guess I feel more comfortable than a lot of folks around things that I can interact with electronically. Up until very recently, and for the last five years or so, I was writing these posts from computers I built running a hacked version of Apple OS X. I can handle that sort of thing but I am tired of adjusting valves and rebuilding transmissions (went back to using a real Mac now).
So when I went looking for a rig, I kept all of that in mind. If it’s too boring (like a Suburban) I will get bored with the vehicle. If it’s too troublesome, I will get pissed off at it. So to find something just right…I looked into buying a VW Bus that had been converted to a Ford V6, but it was in Las Vegas and a trip like that is a recipe for adventure. I did not feel like having any big adventures. I seriously considered a stock Land Rover 109 Series IIa in Idaho. But ultimately I realized how impractical it was. And then I saw a VW Vanagon Synchro for sale in Portland. But when I started looking at mileage and repair costs, I stopped thinking about it. But it did get me thinking about Vanagons again. Maybe I had not given then a fair shake, since I had never owned a water cooled one except the ill fated diesel. After all, they are roomy, do good in mild off-road conditions, are comfortable, and get decent mileage, but can’t pull much of a trailer. So I began looking around for one.
I found a pretty promising looking one located in Portland for three-thousand dollars. But while looking at that, I also saw a Ford F150 extra cab 4×4 with a straight six and five speed for two-thousand dollars. And I saw a 2000 Land Rover Discovery II for four-thousand-five-hundred dollars that looked so nice I figured I would just take a peek at it on the way. Reginald and I drove up in the Lexus. On the way I started thinking about the Ford and I really did not like the conversation I had had with the “owner” who was not really the owner. I decided to skip it. When we got to the Vanagon it was sitting on the street. We parked behind it and immediately I noticed the tags were expired. I also noticed that it was dented up on all the corners and that it had been sitting there awhile. I drove away and called the owner to tell them I was going to pass on it. So that left the Land Rover. We drove up to the middle of Portland and found it parked in the driveway.
The owners seemed like very nice and honest people. The Rover was owned by a customer at a local Rover garage. The current owner was the garage owner’s airplane mechanic. When the original owner of the Rover wanted to get a new one, the garage bought it from him for trade-in value. The garage owner drove it for awhile and then sold it to the current owner. Work on the garage owner’s airplane was traded for work on the Land Rover. But now the family had grown smaller and no longer needed the Rover. The clear coat was peeling in several large spots. Some of the leather was stained. And the title was branded. I looked at the Carfax report the owner provided. The title was branded because of an accident it had been in in 2001. It had been repaired at the dealer. The owner was able to provide most of the service records for the Rover which had 103,000 miles on the odometer. It had always been meticulously and professionally maintained. The owner also had the Land Rover accessory bicycle rack for the receiver which is quite a heavy duty affair. And surprisingly everything worked flawlessly on the vehicle.
This particular Rover was an SE model that had been optioned up as high as one could go for that model I believe. It included 18″ wheels, Active Cornering Enhancement, running boards, heated seats, windshield, mirrors, and rear window; fog lights, cd changer, leather seats, enhanced alarm package, Home Link transmitter, wood trim kit, Sport/Manual mode transmission selector, power everything, AC, dual sunroofs, etc. The only things that set it apart form an HSE model was the lack of in-car entertainment (which I despise), park reverse backup system, and navigation system (which is notoriously awful in those years). So we took it for a test drive. The first thing that struck me was how the A.C.E. worked. There had been no such thing on my old Rover. On this one, it caused the incredibly heavy SUV to handle like an incredibly heavy sports car. It really is a phenomenal piece of engineering. Of course the rest of the drive still felt like I was driving a full time four wheel drive SUV. High seating position, slow, numb steering, middling acceleration, and so on.
The owners had addressed the weak points of Discovery IIs when they got it, replacing the SLS air suspension with coils, and having a new front driveshaft installed. Also the cylinder heads had been replaced with rebuilt units after it overheated two years ago. A complete engine tear down and inspection was carried out and new composite gaskets installed along with all new hoses at a cost of four-thousand-five-hundred dollars. The one thing I did not like was the price. The branded title and the peeling clear coat were a problem. The owner was very open in his dealings as was I, so after a nice discussion over a coffee, we agreed on four thousand. Really, how could I pass it up? On the drive back I enjoyed the quietness of the interior. Even though the van has a very good stereo system, it has to fight over the interior noise levels. The Rover system is pretty good. The SE has the premium system, for whatever that’s worth. It sounded pretty good in the much quieter cabin and was certainly better than LR’s old system.
The first things I did to the new Rover were to remove the running boards, and to replace a broken headlamp washer jet. Next I planned to have all of the fluids replaced and the transmission filter changed. This job was quoted at three hundred and ninety dollars. So Michelle drove it up to the Rover garage and had them work on it. But I got a call telling me that it had come in with a leaking water pump. It had not been leaking before, but Michelle confirmed the coolant was low when she arrived. Luckily it had not overheated. But five hundred and sixty dollars later we had a new water pump, new engine oil, and the same transmission filter. There went the five hundred I had bargained for, oh well.
After that we took it cougar hunting in the Cascades. Our friend had gotten a new predator call and was itching to try it. So my oldest son, my friend and I threw the tire chains and recovery gear in the back and set off for an evening hunt. It was till very snowy in the mountains and we had to turn back from our intended road it because was so deep. But we forged on up the highway until we came to a road that went up into the hills a bit and had not been driven on. I took it slow because one could not see the actual road and it was rather steep to our side. The snow was about a foot deep with slush underneath. Our tires were more of the touring sort than the off-road sort so the traction control did have to work a bit. Eventually I came to a wide spot and turned it around. The sun was getting low and I wanted to be pointed the right way before nightfall. We got out and hunted up a snowy big hill until after sunset. My friend’s calling was not successful, though we did spot several cougar tracks. We made our way down the steep rocky hill in the dark with some difficulty, but eventually made it back to our waiting Rover.
The slush under the snow had started to freeze. I was still learning how to use Land Rover’s Hill Descent Control, a new feature to me. Luckily I had read the manual the night before. I ended up going down the hill in third and then second gear, manual, low range; with Hill Descent Control turned on, it was a godsend! When we got near the bottom I tried using the brakes. We nearly slid off the road. So I downshifted to second, and then to first, and let the HDC computer figure things out. It worked great and we were able to slow down enough to get stopped without sliding off the road. And then it was back into high range and unto the highway. Land Rovers are like that; “There was a little girl who had a little curl right in the middle of her forehead; when she was good, she was very, very good, and when she was bad she was horrid.”
So this is the last COAL from this author. However there will be a final roundup in our next and absolutely last installment. I will collect less than impartial data from my twisted mind and spew it forth into HTML code to form a list of greatest, worst, most, least etc. And then you can bid a fond, or not so fond, adieu to COAL from me. I do have another project in the works, but I’ll talk about that next time.
How easily we talk ourselves into things that down deep, we really want. There is a fine line between genius and fool. Every time I owned a brit I was a fool but you seem very equipped to deal with the pratfalls.
I wish you luck.
Thanks, I am sure I will need it.
I love this site and I really like you, Mike. If I run off and buy something crazy at least I know you and the folks around here will understand.
All of us know the thousand reasons not to buy British vehicles but if you like it, you like it! Not our money, not for us to argue with you.
Thanks, I hope I have not corrupted you too much ; )
It is true: you can always pick out a good one after you have already owned the same kind before. My hat is off to you. You bought something that makes you happy. As a veteran buyer of “cars of opportunity” rather than “cars of design”, this is a luxury.
I think the last two cars I bought that really, really made me happy (and were not at least in part dictated by external circumstances such as fuel prices or finances or finding something too nice to turn down at the right price) were my 94 Club Wagon and my 68 Newport. (My Kia minivan is worming its way into my heart, though). It can make the problems so much easier to deal with if you really enjoy the car each and every time you get in and drive it. So, Congratulations.
Michael, this has been quite the journey. Thank you for offering to write COAL in the first place, and for seeing it through. It’s been an amazing journey, eh?
The Disco is actually a fairly logical choice, given the circumstances and your comfort level in dealing with it. These Rovers are unique in many ways. They belong with owners like you! And in the end, that’s where cars like this often end up, in the hands of those that are willing to have them, for better or for worse.
Safe travels, but I rather hope you don’t actually catch a cougar; they’re they only hope in keeping the damn deer in check!
Personally Paul having grown up in the Midwest with no natural predators for the deer, I have learned to like the taste of deer. (God I miss venison right now. Although someone will likely share some Elk with me during the season.)
I don’t know about the area Michael lives in but here in NM you can only hunt predators like cougar when the population gets big enough to threaten the deer/elk/boy scout population. I wouldn’t want either one to go extinct.
You don’t have to worry about me getting anything based on my hunting record!
And thanks for helping me to rationalize my irrationality.
I’ve enjoyed this series a lot, it really captures the inner narrative of being a car enthusiast on a Bud Lite Budget.
I’m surprised that the Oregon Rover dealers don’t have a distinctive tire cover. Here in NorCal all of the dealers have a different Safari themed animal on theirs.
Thanks, we do have that, but why advertise for free?
Making a guess- this may be less trouble than the vanagon syncro.
Most likely true!
A very enjoyable series of articles. Thank you. As a car guy I get asked all the time about which cars are best. I always say, “life is very short, drive what makes you happy.”
As a baby boomer, I realize that I have spent more years alive than I have left, so I try to remember that quote in Shawshank Redemption, “get busy living or get busy dying.”
I hope to see more of your writing here.
Thank you, well put!
Great series Michael and glad to see youve ended up with such a nice vehicle and for your use probably perfect good luck with it.
Thanks Bryce.
Let’s see…a Land Rover or a VW Vanagon Synchro? Reminds me of the country and western song that asked the question, “do I kill myself or go bowling?”
The Series IIs were better in a lot of ways than the Series 1. Always good to pick up a Brit that has been obsessively maintained, and has documentation to go with it though. These have a lot of personality, even when not pristine – have a blast with it!
* “the Japanese spent years trying to make plastic look like wood. And the British spent years trying to make wood look like plastic”
* “it caused the incredibly heavy SUV to handle like an incredibly heavy sports car.”
Two of the funniest lines I’ve read, excellent! 🙂 I’ve so enjoyed all your COAL posts Michael, thank you for taking the time to put pen to paper (or finger to keypad). Cheers, Scott.
Thanks Scott. I hope to keep you entertained, we will see. Btw, the line about wood was not my own, can’t remember the source.
Add me to the +11111elventy crowd. Your reminiscings are doubly good for me as they remind me of home. I miss driving the logging roads as much as anything. One of my first goals when I get back to Eugene is finding another old Four Runner and going camping.
That, my friend is a worthy goal. And when you do come around these parts let me buy you a beer. Oh, and I do hope you will write more for us. I do enjoy your writing very much.
An excellent series there Michael.
The fact that you went to what felt right, in this case, going back to Land Rover and the second time around really seems to have paid off, so far and you seem to know what to look for now in a LR.
I know the feeling when buying a car as you try them out, you’ll know if its a good one, or not and I got that for sure when I bought my Mazda Protege5 back in January and I’m beginning to take it on fun journeys, like a week ago Saturday. Just a quick loop from Seattle, down to Tacoma to highway 512 and heading back to Seattle via highway 167 and came back into town via Rainier Ave. All told, about 2 hours and 113.25 (very rough estimate) miles later, I had enjoyed a nice outing, more are planned.
Will be interesting to see what you bring to this site in the future.
Micheal, thank you very much for your COAL pieces, I really enjoyed them. You write exceptionally well and you’ve certainly had some interesting cars. Like you, I am no longer interested in wrenching but I think you may have chosen the wrong vehicle if you don’t like fixing yourself. All that electronic stuff like ACE on a British car would scare me away right quick! I can’t imagine what that would cost to diagnose and fix.
We are planning a trip down that way so perhaps we can meet up for dinner or a long talk about the cars we should have kept!
Thanks, come on down. It’s more the type of wrenching in this case. Electronics don’t scare me but rear main seals and transmission clutch packs do.
This write up and the pictures make me pine for my ’00 Disco. — against my better judgement I’ve even found myself scouring the online ads for availability.
thanks for nothing, Michael!
Sorry ; )
Wow, a ladder. Nothing says “exotic safari” like a ladder.
If they could put those on van conversions back in the ’70s, why can’t they put them on Suburbans and Explorers today?
And the ladder makes me want a roof rack to go with it. The roof rack would make me want a brush bar, the brush bar would make me want a lift kit, etc.
loved the series, michael. i’m happy to see that you ended up in a car that you like. after all,if you are going to spend a lot of time and money on something, you should like it.
Belated congratualtions! And thanks for such a great blog. I’ve got a 1990 Vanagon Multivan and just bought a 2004 Land Rover Discovery this week. Love, love, love them both. I’m also in Portland…must be something in the water…
Look forward to reading your other posts.
I came across your website & I love it. Thanks for sharing these great stories and experiences. I particularly liked your Discovery II article – I got my first Discovery new in 1999 and I’ve had 4 others since then (I still have the 99). Wonderful cars – I wish you lots of enjoyment!
I ended up with an 04 Disco yesterday going thru the same train of thought. Painful to watch the fuel gauge move like the hand of an analog clock. But there is more there there. I can’t really fit behind the wheel, seats are too close and maybe too high….. Plastic parts loose…. Car looks older than nine service years, but hey, it seems to attract people with an appetite for individual financial self destruction in times of great fuel efficient vehicles with insane warranties and smooth ergonomics for reasonable monthly payments.
I hope I can afford the current check engine light without too much trouble….. Having a tape deck in 2013 makes up for it. I see it as a Karma thing, if the Disco decides to like me back, even better…… I might even turn off GPS and look at my Street Atlas. Something to be said about traveling vs. commuting.
Great ride. There is more there there.
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Nick, I purchased a 2004 Discovery yesterday – sight unseen. My current vehicle is a Hummer so I’m used to watching the needle fall but I’m curious about your comments regarding space – why are you having trouble getting behind the wheel?
I have owned a few DII’s. The check engine light is an easy fix. The worry is when the dash lights up like a christmas tree with brake, ABS, hill decent and traction control. Nevertheless, they are excellent vehicles if you need to do serious off roading and then get back home going 70 MPH on the interstate. Overheating is a serious issue when the intake valley pan gasket starts leaking on the 4.6 Litre and is not replaced promptly. Besides that they are tough as nails. Favorite color is midnight blue metallic.