The Baltimore area CC Meet-up in Hunt Valley on this past Saturday was terrific. There were ten of us that showed up for car watching and car talking. The names (and some of the cars) after the jump:
From left to right: Constantine, Greg (or Craig?), RetroMustangRick, M.D. Laughlin, yours truly, Tony, Brian, Eric703, Ed Snitkoff (who drove down from New York), and Carlo DiTullio. (My apologies if I messed up on the names.) The first order of business was to check out some of the more interesting cars (from a CC perspective).
I was attracted to this Citroen Mehari, the first one I’ve seen in the US.
This one has received a complete new body, as these reproduction ABS plastic bodies are available for this purpose.
Appropriately enough it was next to another air cooled boxer car, but one with twice the cylinders as the Mehari. This Beetle is a ’66 1300, which is my favorite year thanks to the lively yet economical 1300 engine.
Sweet Jeep wagon, next to an equally sweet Model A.
A couple of Shelby GT 350H Mustangs. I was attracted to this one because it obviously gets raced, and it shows it, in a good way. I hadn’t paid attention to that unusual rear window that has somehow been lowered or cut down. I’m assuming it’s to let the air that comes in through the side windows escape. Or?
Full roll bar.
Race-ready engine. Someone will tell us about that tall distributor.
The other side of the A. Both sides are its good side.
A very fine example of a Mercedes 300 SEL 4.5 (W109). This is the significantly more expensive trim version than the more common W108, with air suspension and other upgrades including more and nicer wood on the interior and such. The 4.5 version was a US-only model, as in Europe only the 3.5 and 6.3 V8s were available. The 4.5 version was only available in the second half of MY 1971 and the final 1972s.
At first glance, I thought this was just a nice ’66 Plymouth Satellite. I should have known better.
That thing’s got a hemi. And 1966 was the first year it was available as a regular production option. The styled steel wheels are from a later Mopar, as these cars came with full wheel covers originally.
The build sheet on this one is long and interesting, as it’s loaded, with Torqueflite, power steering, disc brakes (I forgot they were available already in ’66) and a raft of other options (no a/c, though. NA with the hemi).
Now here’s its polar opposite and actually more CC-worthy: a stripper Rambler American 220, from presumably 1967.
I thoought this was one of the $1998 versions that had its price lowered to be sub-$2000 and compete against the VW, but it turns out that came in 1968/1969. But this one was essentially the same, unless the interior was somehow stripped even more. Obligatory three-on-the-tree.
The engine would be the 199 CID AMC six. The wheels are not stock, unfortunately.
This big fuselage ’73 Chrysler Town and Country wagon was probably the favorite of our group. It’s very original, and shows its age; a genuine survivor, and currently a daily driver. It was found and bought by its owner about a year ago.
Unusual tail pipe extensions. This T&C is unusual, as it has the “wood” delete option, as that was standard on the T&C.
As was the big 440 V8.
This shot is soft, unfortunately. It’s essentially a New Yorker wagon.
This ’71 or ’72 Chevy C10 pickup was in almost showroom condition. But it’s all original.
It has some 54k miles on the odometer. The original owner undoubtedly was a very careful one, and probably had seat cover stoo, as the upholstery is like new.
A nice 280SL W113 Mercedes roadster. I suspect it’s originally a European car, as it had a four-speed stick. The overwhelming majority of US market 280SLs had the automatic. I asked the owner what year it was, and he said he didn’t know. Seriously??
Actually, this ’64 Continental convertible may well have vied as the other top attention getter for our group. Later, as the owner got in to leave, it suffered the exact same malady as the Mark III I shot a while back: the starter would crank for a brief second or so, then disengage with a moan. It took him over 20 tries before it finally cranked long enough for the big 430 to catch.
There were a number of other interesting cars too, but I didn’t shoot them all. As is typically the case, we were too busy talking. After most of the cars left, we got ourselves an early lunch (or late breakfast) and sat chatting up all sorts or car-related subjects until about noon.
It was a treat to get to meet all of you that showed up. Our readers are all such interesting and knowledgeable, not only on cars but a wide array of subjects.
Thank you all for showing up, and thank you Rick for suggesting the location.
After the meet-up, it was time for the Niedermeyer family meet-up to celebrate my mother’s 95th birthday. The guaranteed best way to get her eyes lit up is to be with her three great-grandchildren. The best present of all!
Looks like a great meetup. I’d rather have the Rambler than the Hemi Satellite. Needs different wheels though, maybe some of those slotted Mopar rims…
And happy birthday to that couchside classic, Ma Niedermeyer. Reminds me of what a friend’s Grandma said at his wedding: “I have always tried to be a good Grandma. But now I want to be a Great Grandma!”
Gotta say I like the Rambler too, best of this bunch. The wheels and tires could be better, but at least the rims are discreet and the tires are BFG’s and not “Radial Pavement Hugger 60’s”. My second favorite is probably a three way tie between the Jeep, Beetle and the Mehari, though the white and blue doesn’t do the Citroen any favors. You know you’re getting older when the 1300 Beetle with the updated wheels and hubcaps, and wider license plate light module, looks “new”. And great to see so many generations of Niedermeyers!
It would be hilarious to put the Rambler and *any* of the other cars at your disposal and see how many days it would take for you to start driving the other car instead of the Rambler American at the price of admitting that the American is inferior in every possible way and that you would rather drive, look at, and be seen in the other car.
I’d put the over/under at six days. You might not make it to midnight if the Pagoda is your choice.
A preference from the above selection was indicated in the spirit of fun by two very well-informed parties. Your dismissal of their preference and presumption as to their reasons for making this choice sorts of cuts against the grain here at CC. By all means disagree, but… in the spirit of fun.
I always wanted a 66-67 Satellite hardtop – a 383 would have been fine with me, or a 318 even. But I never got one. My college roommate had that T&C’s little brother, a 72 Polara wagon.
Sorry I missed this one, I see I missed meeting a great group of guys.
It was truly a pleasure to meet a group of people as great as the CC contributors and readers. I will definitely look forward to another such event!
Zum Geburtstag viel Glück, Frau Niedermeyer!
I’d say that Shelby engine had a magneto. They’re before my time, but as I understand it, prior to electronic ignitions magnetos offered a hotter spark as RPMs increased, while point systems lost strength with higher revs.
I grabbed the attached image off E-bay, and here’s an article on the topic from Hemmings:
https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hmn/2011/05/Magneto-Ignition-Systems/3698611.html
That was my first thought too. But then I got unsure, as I assumed most anyone would have upgraded to something more modern. I guess this is a very period-correct competition Shelby.
I hear you, modern makes a lot more sense.
The cap in my attachment looks more like a distributor, while the cap on the car looks more like old school magnetos (the kind I remember seeing as a kid). Call it more evidence the owner is going for period correct.
Many motorcycles back in the day used magnetos. One thing I can remember is that the faster the engine was running, the brighter the headlight got. Of course in my experience the brightness of the headlight never kept up with the actual need. I haven’t owned a motorcycle in over 30 years and I can’t tell you for sure if they still use mags or have moved on to a more conventional setup.
There should have been two coils one for ignition and another for lights giving a constant light not a rev dependent light, someone did what I did when the lighting mag died.
Thanks very much for that link! I always wondered exactly what a magneto was, but never read a proper explanation until now.
That Mercedes SL looks terrific but if I were in the US it would be the T&C, thankfully with the wood delete option!
Looks a good show though
It was great to meet so many folks from the CC community this weekend, and at a terrific venue no less.
While there was a great variety of cars there at Hunt Valley, I’ll add one more picture in keeping with this week’s Festival of the Unexceptional posts. This one was just outside of the actual show area — but I can’t remember when I last saw an early ’90s Mitsubishi Galant… this is a 1993 Galant S base model, in pristine condition. It was so unexceptional, I feel it just deserves some recognition!
I have to admit I took pictures of that one, too. I suspect the number of these cars is probably vanishingly small at this point.
An elderly woman at my church drives a ’91 with about 90,000 miles. She has owned it since new and literally drives it to church and back! And this is in Rhode Island – she must take her car to the carwash religiously (rimshot), since it is shockingly free of rust.
It looks like it was a great meet-up! I’ve met up with Eric a few times as he has family that lives locally. Plus, it’s also terrific to have faces to go with names as I haven’t been fortunate enough to meet anyone else there – besides Paul.
That show has such a wonderful assortment of cars. And so many green ones! The 300 SEL is calling my name, followed by the Chevrolet pickup.
Happy belated birthday to Mrs. Niedermeyer!
That 300 SEL was green on the inside too! That was my favorite from the day as well, in part because of my response to this past spring’s QOTD about which car from your birth year would you want to own — my answer was a 300 SEL 4.5, exactly like the one at the show. Unfortunately, it didn’t follow me home.
Not belated at all, Jason… Paul said her actual birthday is tomorrow, August 8 if I remember correctly.
Happy Birthday Mrs. Niedermeyer!
Nice Mehari rare too, I like the race Mustang best bogan blak with Shelby gold stripes suits it and yes thats a magneto, Nice rambler and a proper wagon without plastiwood yes I like it, I keep running across VW Beetles that dont match the changes made to them, the last one at a VW specialist in Rangiora Christchurch, 68 1300? with the large centre wheels I wonder where that came from originally, Your mums looking well Paul plenty more birthdays to come.
68 on the rego, there must be a story behind that.
I seem to recall Brazilian Beetles got changes more slowly than German ones. But why would that end up in NZ? South African maybe?
What are you trying to say, Bryce?
It was great meeting everyone last Saturday. Despite the rainy start, we ended up with a nice day and a pretty decent turnout of cars.
I really enjoyed putting faces with the names and talking to you guys.
Paul, thanks so much for suggesting this and for the hospitality!
My Cairn Terrier Molly was not very happy with me that I stole ‘her’ Mustang to go to the event. I had to pay penance when I got home from the meet up and take her for a ride to the park…
My link again https://www.flickr.com/photos/channaher/albums/72157699841585575 and my thanks for the generosity of our founder and the camaraderie of contributors and commenters! I spell my name “Constantine” though.
Thank you for the correction, PN!
Hey that looks like it was a fun event! It’s always nice to meet others with the same affliction and good for those of us that couldn’t make it to see some of the others in pictures that we engage with semi-anonymously otherwise.
Thanks for the after-report, looks like fun. I would invite y’all to Madera, we could spot Astro vans all day, no?
I’m loving that Chebby pickup, a fine fine rig in a great color. Forgot about magnetos, ha, isn’t that a super hero now? The Shelby stang is a winner, looks great all flat black and business.
And the 1300 bug…sigh.
Some great cars! I cannot decide who has aged better, the lovely Mrs. Niedermeyer or the stunning 1964 Lincoln Continental convertible. Sorry to hear about the starter issue – the other side of CCs.
I had a great time as well, though I was a bit of a late arrival… I was glad that I finally got a chance to meet you in person, Paul after reading your work for so many years. Also was great to meet and talk to other writers, contributors and commenters on Curbside Classic. I feel like I know a bunch of the Curbside Classic community just from reading the posts and comments, and now I’ve met some of you for real. The conversations we had while there were as engaging as the event.
The show itself was surprisingly diverse and had something for everyone. Being that I have family that lives right there in Hunt Valley, I’d like to go again sometime. So if any of you Maryland folks plan to go again, let me know! I’m only an hour away.
Paul, your Mom looks great, the best and most beautiful “classic” of this post. Amazing 95 years young. Bravo!
This was only my third time attending this Cars & Coffee type event (or any cars and coffee type event), and each time it was a different collection of cars, as though the members of this club (Hunt Valley Horsepower) each owned multiple classics.
A week before the meetup, I took my Dad to the event looking for a ‘56 Chevy that was there the first time I went. I talked to the guy that day and he said he had 3 tri-fives (my Dad’s favorite since he had a ‘56 and wanted a ‘57 when he was young). Instead of the ‘56, the guy had a ‘55 (which everyone here seems to like better).
The Citroën had the Maryland tag ”YCHTRCK”, but last week, in the same area of the lot was this gem with the Maryland plate “CARBOAT”. We ARE the City by the Bay here, despite Steve Perry’s claim that title belongs to San Francisco. I’m sensing a theme here. Perhaps it’s the same owner? I’ll have to ask if I ever meet the guy. Most folks get out of their cars and walk around (like we did), and don’t hang around their own cars long enough to put a face with a car. We were lucky that day in that we did get to talk to a lot of the owners though.
Oh, where was I? Oh yeah, the Amphicar…. This weekly car show is eclectic, that’s for sure.
The bumper sticker on this classic… Priceless.
Nice array. Fusey wagon just edges out the Mehari, but lose those seat covers and I’ll have to reconsider.
Happy Birthday Mrs. N.
The $1995.00 American had a cheaper, flat rear window rather the slight wrap around that the pictured car has. I think there were a couple of other cheapenings, but don’t remember the details. The interior? I don’t think they could have cheapened it any more.
I’ll have the Town & Country please
I had a great time and the venue was ideal – enough cars for us CC’ers to conduct lively conversations about. Plus, the CC effect was alive and well, since I saw this ’90s Chevy Cavalier sedan (in ’90s teal, no less) in the parking lot as I walked back to my car. Haven’t seen one of these in years!
Paul, the rear window in the GT350H was designed originally by Peter Brock for the 1965 GT350 “R” model. The design allowed high-pressure air inside the cockpit to escape at high speed speed as you correctly surmised, which helped to reduce drag. It also helped to prevent the rear window from popping out at speed (usually aided by hold down straps).
Very cool! Wish I could make it to a CC meet-up one of these days. Happy birthday to your mother!
The ’66 Beetle is identical to my first car, right down to the paint color, optional pop open rear side windows and the later ’70-’72 narrow headrest high back front seats. The seats and 1300 engine were swapped over to a ’63 Beetle I bought to replace it after the car was totaled. It went to the junkyard with the ’63’s well worn 1200 engine and interior.
The C10 appears to be a ’71, ’72’s had the inside rear view mirror mounted to the windshield, and this truck is likely all original, it’s a beauty.
The Chevy truck is the same color as my ’71, but mine was the base fleet trim model with three-on-the-tree. That steering wheel looks familiar.