We took a family trip to Europe in 2014. We didn’t want to do a group tour, and we were hesitant to have to conform to the train schedules. At some point, the kids (15, 13 and 11 at the time) would need a day off or to sleep late. So what’s an American family to do? Rent a car, of course!
Travel by car may not be the first idea people have to see Western Europe, but it sure is convenient. And actually, as we researched the topic, it was quite a bit cheaper than rail passes for the five of us for the 14 days or so we had planned. And that’s after considering the price of fuel, too! Cheaper, check. More convenient, check. More flexible, check. A little more private than two weeks on a train, check.
You would have to deal with the traffic, but I enjoy driving, generally. I was willing to put up with potential aggravation to be able to say I had driven in Europe, something I had wanted to do since way before I was old enough to even have a license. As it turned out, traffic and driving wasn’t that bad. Different, but not bad. I’ll try to touch on the traffic observations as we “travel” our route!
Before I left, I had a lot of logistical concerns before I took my family of five over there. Calls were placed to the health insurer and auto insurer to verify we would be covered. I researched the driver license issue, and found that an International Driving Permit, or IDP, was required in Italy and Germany, two of the countries we were entering. It is highly recommended even when not required.
An IDP is issued internationally, by your home country. I don’t know about other countries, but in the U.S., this is typically done at your local AAA office. There may be other ways to obtain one, but AAA was quick and easy. You produce your valid U.S. license, fill out some forms, and get a passport style photo made for the IDP. I was already a AAA member, so it was quick, easy and inexpensive.
So, we looked into the rental options. We went with Hertz, as it was a known name to us. I liked that I could pick up the phone and call Hertz in the USA before, during or after the trip if I had problems. There are so many companies operating in Europe though, that I had never heard of. Sixt was a big one, and now they are coming here as well. I might shop around more next time.
We had flown in to Rome, but did not pick up the car at the train station until we were leaving Rome a few days later. While in Rome, we stayed at a convent near the Vatican. We relied on foot mostly, and made it to the Coliseum, the “Wedding Cake”, the Vatican, the Roman Ruins, and Trevi Fountain.
We had a wonderful van and driver for one whole day, for a guided tour of the tourist highlights we didn’t reach on foot including the Appian Way.
When we were ready to leave Rome, we took a taxi to the Rome train station, where the Hertz counter was located. It was pure chaos! Short staffed, crowded, and everyone yelling in Italian. The staff was very nice when it came our turn at the counter, though.
At home, we had booked a “large” car. We knew it would still be a smaller car, the usage of the term being relative to the country.
The lady at the Hertz counter informed us we had a Fiat 500 waiting for us, in her broken English. We were mildly panicked; did that even have five seatbelts? Once the paperwork came off the printer, I saw that it was really a 500L. I don’t think I had seen a 500L in person up to that point, but hopefully it would work.
We were directed to leave the train station, walk down the street a couple of blocks to a hotel. Enter the hotel, and take the elevator down to their parking deck. This would be where the Hertz vehicles were waiting.
Well, this is what the nice lady was attempting to tell us, anyway. We didn’t quite get this, and walked all around the neighborhood, examining every hotel but the correct one, pulling our carry-ons behind us. I finally left the family at a gelato shop, and sprinted back to Hertz for a map or better instructions. With a map sketched out by the Hertz lady, we found our target right away.
I did not take a picture of the Hertz garage where we picked up the 500L, but fortunately someone else did. It defies words. And courtesy of Google, this is it. This really is the garage in question, and no, this is not the storage area! This is how the cars are packed in like sardines, and you are expected to navigate yourself out.
Like the lead picture, it was fire engine red with a white roof. It was cute, and what’s more Italian than a red Fiat! We could not open the doors without pulling the 500L out, though. It was also backed into a wall, so we couldn’t open the hatch. Once the attendant saw we were situated and buckled, he then proceeded to walk ahead of us, starting and moving any cars in the way. Occasionally, we would meet other renters trying to leave, and the Hertz workers would decide how we would pass, who would go first, etc.
Once we were out, I found Rome traffic to be what I expected: fast paced, no painted lines to be seen anywhere, and only partial adherence to traffic lights by anyone. But it moved, there were no jams on our path.
The 500L was a pleasant surprise. The five carry-ons fit in the hatch under the cargo cover perfectly. We anticipated having little cargo room, but we had more than we needed. We managed just carry-ons for 14 days, because we planned laundry days along the way.
While not overly roomy, the three kids fit in the back just fine. There were hard plastic hinge covers for the folding rear seats that hit the middle occupant in the butt and hip, unfortunately.
We headed out of Rome to our next stop, two nights in Florence at an apartment off AirBnB, with a washer and dryer. Once of out of Rome, the 1.3 liter turbodiesel 500L proved itself to be a pretty nice highway cruiser. RPM’s were a little high at 80mph even with a 5 speed manual, but the car was smooth, handled well, and really just seemed happy with a full load! Kind of like an old diesel Mercedes, the faster you went, the more pep it seemed to have. Like this picture, the guardrails were right along the travel lane, with no emergency lane. That took some getting used to, a perpetual work zone feeling if you will.
We even heard U.S. Armed Forces radio stations most of the way. The same feed was on multiple frequencies. When one faded out, there was another one to pick up. It was an odd sensation, hurtling down a highway in Italy, listening to what sounded like a typical U.S. rock station! And as it turns out, The Eagle indeed broadcasts around the globe from a studio in Riverside, California.
We exited the highway towards Florence, and the road went down to one lane. Of course, I assumed I had entered a stretch that was one-way. But no, traffic started coming towards us! Good grief, was I going the wrong way? Apparently not, as soon enough, we came upon slower cars moving in our same direction too. Just stay to the right and hope for the best! Dive into the grass if you have to.
Eventually, this emptied into a nice, U.S. style boulevard ringing Florence.
Our AirBnB was in central Florence, near the Duomo. One we got into old Florence proper, we were greeted with this. Only, picture cars parked along one side, and sometimes BOTH sides! Yes, we had to fold in the mirrors and inch through several very tight spots. I recall having to fold the mirrors of some of the parked cars, too. The 500L was a “large” car for sure!
The “parking garage” we had arranged in Florence was really a hollowed out old building. There were no spaces or lanes, the cars were just packed in like sardines. I am pretty sure this is the same garage we used, but it was completely full. When we arrived, they asked when we would need the car. We told them we wanted to drive to Pisa to see the Leaning Tower the next evening, so they said it would be ready.
The next afternoon, we walked down the street and as promised, the 500L was waiting on the curb for us. This is probably a good angle at which to observe how odd looking the 500L is. Tall, narrow, yet bulbous looking at the same time.
The rear is the best angle, and the front is just oddly bugeyed to me. Folding the mirrors in from the get-go, we navigated out of the old city center and to Pisa, about an hour away as I recall.
When we arrived at Pisa, it was dinner time and the streets were clearing out. We found a pretty close spot along the river, along the old city walls, and walked a few blocks to the Tower itself. We had a dinner at a little mom and pop type place across the street from the Tower.
After two nights in Florence, we loaded into the Fiat for the next stop, Venice. You may think, how would you drive in Venice?
Well, you don’t drive into Venice, of course! Unless you have an amphicar.
You drive to this large, modern style parking deck. Lots of action here, with residents, tourists, and cruise ships coming and going. You have to reserve a parking spot ahead of time here. Credit goes to my wife for planning all this down to the last detail! And sure enough, it was “full” when we arrived and you didn’t get in without a reservation. We finally found one space up on the roof.
The 500L had been great up to this time! It drove quite nicely, and while not a “large” car as we think of in the U.S., it was roomy enough. We were averaging 44 mpg fully loaded at highway speeds, which was appreciated since diesel was about US$8.00 a gallon.
In a prior two week trip lollygagging up the Pacific Coast Highway, we had a Chevrolet Traverse as a Hertz rental. It was fine, and had three rows. But the 500L really worked better for us overall, and seemed to had better space utilization. The Traverse, despite it’s exterior size, seemed cramped on that trip with five people and the same five carry-ons.
Second row buckets meant we had to use the third row, which left us challenged for cargo space. More room than you need, in all the wrong places. And it was a handful in heavy traffic (L.A., San Francisco), wide and with little visual clue of where the corners were.
So, this little 500L really challenged my thinking. We had spent enough time in it that complaints or problems would crop up. We were all pretty happy. I liked the way it drove, quite a bit. Dampened, but sporty, in a VW way. Would this be a good car for us at home? Too bad I can’t get the diesel in the U.S., I thought, or I might go home and just buy one.
After just two whirlwind days and nights in Venice, we were off in the 500L to the next stop, Lucerne!
No, not that one. TO BE CONTINUED!
For a visit to a region a car is a good tool to go to lots of different places; if you want to see a lot of Europe (and not motorway cuttings) then the train is the best bet. To sleep late one only takes a later train. Privacy? Well, other people are usually quiet and harmless. A traffic jam on an Autobahn is much worse than the odd annoying passenger.
If I may, two small criticisms. Second picture shows right-hand drive vehicles, three wheelers (tuk tuks) and two Landcruisers in the front. That’s rather New Delhi than Rome. Legend to picture 11 is a bad word in Italian, you could for example write “idioti!” instead. Sorry, I’m a teacher. I completely agree with you about the 500L’s cartoonish, lunatic face.
We’re not so prudish about cuss words here; the f-bomb gets dropped when and where it helps emphasise things. Given that no specific individual is being described as the son of a prostitute and the expression is just being used as a figure of speech, no offence has been directed. Your point about New Delhi is well made, however.
Sorry, that picture was identified as Rome, but clearly they were wrong. You can’t believe everything you read on the internet! I didn’t see the Tuk Tuks at all until you pointed them out. And I mean no offense with the caption. I thought it was “Son of a b____”, but maybe it is something worse. It was the mildest one I found in Italian.
The 500L isn’t the only “big” 500 – there is also the 500X, which is much better looking. These cars are of course closely related to the Jeep Renegade.
They’re all based on the same platform.
I always thought the 500L would sell better in the US if it had been re-grilled and marketed as a gen 2 PT Cruiser. The Renegade’s 2.5L engine and conventional automatic (instead of DCT) would also have helped.
Agree. Introducing it with a jerky auto trans was one of many mistakes. It was replaced later with an Aisin conventional automatic later, at a loss of a couple miles per gallon. Using the Fiat turbocharged engine requiring premium fuel was another mistake. And of course being able to produce a car with at least average modern reliability is the biggest Fiat killer.
I own a 2012 500 Abarth bought new in May of that year. Zero problems or issues after 41K miles, it has been the lowest cost to run and maintain of any new car I’ve ever purchased. Anecdotal, but they are well-made cars.
Ditto here, my ’13 Abarth has been as reliable as the Scion xB I traded in on it. And none of the other local Fiat 500 owners I know are complaining about unreliability. I’m occasionally seriously wondering about all those Fiat (FCA) stories.
Yes, I know, one instance doesn’t make a trend. But I’m still wondering just how much the Internet is overblowing it.
Yes, I love my 500L. It’s a 2014 model with the dual clutch auto, (also red with a white top!). it has 63,000 miles, all trouble free, much lower maintenance than any car Ive ever owned, and I actually like the transmission, qwerky as it occassionally is, it also makes it a fun driver.
It’s the most reliable car I ever owned, and Ive owned Subarus, Toyotas, Chevys, etc
As a counterpoint, our ’15L averaged 25.5mpg in “city” driving that includes many 65mph roads WITH stoplights! Our ’17 is averaging over 29 with nary a long trip so far…same 0-65-0 highways…no complaints here about mileage. And bye the by, I ran 87 octane Top Tier fuel about 95% of the time in our ’15 and am doing the same in the ’17…performance and fuel economy are fine, IMO. “Premium” is not REQUIRED. Also, other than a radio glitch and the steering column catchy thingy, our 15 was trouble free for 2.5 years. Got the ’17 primarily for the giant moonroof and a change of color.
Agree – I’ve always thought the 500L is incredibly malproportioned, but the 500X isn’t bad.
Ugly ugly ugly UGLY!!!!!!!
My six foot plus brother hired a 500L for his family of four in Italy and was so impressed, he’s convinced my testa dura father to forget his Rome-parked Festiva and hire a 500L for my mother and sister’s visit this year. Me, I still think its so ugly I wouldn’t step into it on principle, but I’m not going so who cares what I think.
Ah, that’s all very well, but what do you think of the styling?
Thanks for this interesting little travelogue! I haven’t been back to Europe for years, but I’d like to go soon.
I’m rather interested in the Fiat 500L; it’s gotten a lot of bad press here in the US. Part of that is due to it’s “unique” styling, the other part is due to the dual dry clutch transmission or automated manual transmission that didn’t seem to be set up properly for US conditions. Or US drivers. We (collectively) seem to treat all cars as interchangeable appliances. That issue has been remedied with the introduction of a regular Aisin 6 speed torque converter transmission in the 2015 model year.
Part of my interest in the 500L is the fact that I was a fan of the original Chrysler minivan. I’ve long wanted another van of that size. Minivans now are not mini and I miss the unique capabilities those cars had, even if I can’t fit a 4′ x 8′ sheet of plywood in the back. In my regular life, I’ve rarely had to haul that kind of stuff around.
Glad to see you liked the 500L, it sounds like you gave the acid test, with driving it nearly fully loaded. One of these remains high on our list when one of our current cars finally kicks the bucket…
I would highly recommend the 500L to you, based on your wish list….it drives nicely, is easy to drive in heavy traffic/see out of, and packs a lot of interior volume into a small footprint.
I am just surprised I did not read about speeding tickets. —–Oh, wait. So far you were only on Italian roads. The speeding tickets come further north.
Actually, there was a ticket. I was technically a “wanted man” in Italy for a bit, but I think we got it straightened out. The ticket went to Hertz Italy (it was a camera ticket), and by the time Hertz Italy notified me at home via snail mail, the deadline to deal with it had long since passed. Hertz USA helped get it resolved.
If only FCA had sent the manual versions of the 500L/X to the US! I rather like the weird Honey I Blew Up the 500 styling of the L but the original transmission was dreadful and by the time the conventional AT was offered I’d done a 180 turn towards a Subaru Forester. I’ve only driven in Germany, which was quite pleasant, so reading about an everyday person (not a motor journalist in other words) driving in Italy is fascinating.
They did offer the manual L up through 2016, they still offer it on the Pop version of the X as well as the same powertrain in the Renegade and Compass.
Most Americans fail to realize that most rental cars in Europe come with manual transmissions. If you want a automatic, you need to specify this feature during the reservation process. I did a similar trip in southern England in 2014 with a Peugeot 5008. Due to the British driving on the “wrong” side of the road and the number of persons on the trip (4 total), I paid the extra for the automatic to reduce some of the stress.
Also, I bought a memory chip for the British Isles from the GPS vendor and had all the travel locations pre-loaded prior to departure. This was a BIG benefit as well.
That’s changing. I specifically wanted a manual, but had to take a automatic Focus wagon last time there.
I forgot to mention I bought a Western + Central Europe TomTom just for this trip. About $75.00 on eBay. It worked flawlessly and I can’t imagine doing this trip without it!
Sixt is most definitely in the US, albeit in select cities. I rent from them whenever possible, because they seem to have more interesting cars.
My first time with them was a one-way from Ft. Lauderdale to Atlanta. Not only was Sixt half the price of any major company (same price, but without the $300 one-way fee) but they gave me a MINI.
>i>…they seem to have more interesting cars.
I concur about Sixt after hiring a several cars there. Once did I go against my gut feeling and booked a larger van from Avis in Nuremberg for the business trip to Paris.
When I saw what Avis selected, I was genuinely devastated: a puny Ford Focus C-Max with teeny-weeny 1.6-litre petrol mill. It was so spartan as compared to what Sixt offered. I specifically requested a diesel motor.
Protesting was met with unapologetically indifference. The agent had no other availability that morning. She suggested cancelling the reservation with penalty and try my luck with other car hire agencies.
Ford turned out to be very thirsty on the Autobahn and autoroute, requiring a several fuel stops along the way between Nuremberg and Paris. My previous car hire for the same trip was 2008 Audi A4 2.0 TDI Avant, which required just two fuel stops. I swore off Avis and Ford for good.
The most interesting surprise at Sixt was BMW 525d Touring X-Drive for my road trip through East Germany. One of best diesel cars I’ve ever driven. Once I chanced on Sixt’s ‘Manager Surprise’ and got Audi S1, yes, S1, for the road trip in Austria and northern Italy.
Being a big fan of the current Fiat line, I tried to get Maggie interested in a 500L to go along with my Abarth, but she fell in love with the Dart GT she currently owns. I rather like the 500L, as long as it’s with a manual, and consider them very underrated cars. Of course, this is America. Manuals don’t count, and an odd automatic invariably dooms a car to Internet perdition.
Great travelogue — I can’t imagine the logistics in planning a trip such as this.
The picture I keep going back to here is the Florence parking garage — the one in the hollowed-out building. I never would have guessed an old building would be reused in that way… really interesting! I’m looking forward to the next installment.
… the one in the hollowed-out building. I never would have guessed an old building would be reused in that way…
When I visited Houston in the late 70s, I saw a number of older buildings where the ground floor had been gutted out and turned into parking.
This is the Michigan theater in Detroit. It is next door to an office building that is still in use, so the theater was gutted out and turned into a parking garage. This was one of the Detroit locations used in “8 Mile”
Visited Sicily twice in the 70s and even before I got to that part of this excellent write-up I knew parking was going to be where you ran into problems.
Funny, I never noticed that the roads in Italian cities were lacking in pavement striping. What I did notice was the lack of stop signs, there are probably about 1/10 the stop signs as there are in the U. S.
About the 500L, I think it is quite ugly, with it’s styling similarities to the vintage 600 it should have been named after that car.
I think there were supposed to be painted lanes, but they were worn off in the heavily travelled areas. We just left from the train station area and headed out of Rome…..but yes, everyone just drove as if there were no lanes at all!
We visited Italy last summer, and loved it….we took a small-group tour though (12 people) and although I fantasized about driving my Alfa Spider on some of the country roads, when we got to Rome, I decided that I probably wasn’t equal to that task. Yes, I drove around Tokyo for some years with no problem, but the Italian approach to lane disciple and driving in general is….. different. Sir, I salute you.
Below is a picture I snapped (form the safety of our bus) somewhere near the Vatican in Rome. It made a believer out of me.
These are intriguing to me but will probably never make the cut at my house. My tastes/needs run to either smaller or bigger. This could be a good compromise car but that kind of compromise also means that it doesn’t really excel at any one thing.
I concur with you about what a well-designed packaging job the 500L is. Squeezing in a third row of seats inevitably leads to compromises. This is a very roomy modern version of a wagon.
Interestingly, this will be our second 500L COAL: https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cars-of-a-lifetime/coal-2015-fiat-500l-urbana-trekking-i-bought-one-thats-got-to-be-a-bad-omen-for-fiat/
I reviewed one here: https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/new-cars/cc-rental-car-review-fiat-500l-the-unholy-popemobile-or-fix-it-again-sergio/
My rental had the twin-clutch transmission, which was a bad combo with the little 1.4 turbo. But with the manual, it would make a good replacement for my xB.
And I don’t find these ugly; I rather like the looks too. A refreshing change from all the look-alike CUVs out there. It’s too bad this didn’t catch on here; it really wold serve a lot of folks well. It’s a better space/interior package than most/all of the popular CUVs.
I like these quite a lot, except for the twin-clutch versions. I reviewed one here: https://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/new-cars/cc-rental-car-review-fiat-500l-the-unholy-popemobile-or-fix-it-again-sergio/
Interestingly, this is the second 500L COAL here: https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cars-of-a-lifetime/coal-2015-fiat-500l-urbana-trekking-i-bought-one-thats-got-to-be-a-bad-omen-for-fiat/
These really appeal to me more than the typical popular CUVs; they look distinctive and cute, have a really roomy back seat, and good visibility. A manual would make a good replacement for my xb, should the need arise.
In Europe, the 500L is the best selling small MPV, with a 27% share of the segment and a healthy lead over the Ford B-Max and Opel Meriva. As in the US though, customer preference is swinging to CUVs. The 500X outsold the 500L over the first three quarters of 2017 70,000 to 51,000, yet the X’s sales only rank 6th, at half the volume of the category leading Renault Captur.
Here, I don’t know why Fiat persists with the L, as they only move about 100 of them a month. The X has been doing several hundred/month better than that, but seemingly almost every used X I see on Autotrader is an ex-rental, so maybe the X’s better sales are an illusion.
The small MPV segment has already shrank significantly and continues to do so, in favour of – you guessed it – small SUVs. The Renault Captur, a small SUV, replaced the MPV Modus, and the Opel Meriva will soon be replaced by the Crossland (effectively and maybe officially). The 500L might be the best selling one, but that isn’t saying too much against competition that is mostly over 5 years old and to be discontinued soon.
Having driven both the 500L and the 500X, I feel this is not exactly fair to the cars’ qualities: the L is much more versatile and as good to drive. It just looks (even) sillier.
The small MPV segment has already shrank significantly and continues to do so, in favour of – you guessed it – small SUVs.
Do you have a feel for when the swing to SUVs started in Europe? In the US, VW has been criticized for years for not having an extensive line of SUVs and the two they did have missed the target. The reality is the US is a very small market for VW, while the brand leads the market in Europe and China, so it makes sense that VW would design for those markets. Now that SUVs and rapidly gaining share in VW’s major markets, they are producing competitive SUVs.
Having driven both the 500L and the 500X, I feel this is not exactly fair to the cars’ qualities: the L is much more versatile and as good to drive. It just looks (even) sillier.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. In the US, the X is available with a much larger engine, which, I expect, appeals to customers. The X did have the better TV commercial…come to think of it, I’m not sure I have ever seen a 500L advert here.
SUVs in general started a little later on this side of the pond, only really catching on in the early 2000s. I’d suspect the popularity of small MPVs, starting with the Renault Scenic, had something to do with that. The VW Tiguan was not unusually late, although not necessarily early either, and they also had the Skoda Yeti and the various Audi Q-models accompanying them.
The move to SUVs in every segment, even the small ones, is very recent; in 2010 the only supermini-size SUVs available were the Fiat Sedici/Suzuki SX4 twins and the Daihatsu Terios. MPVs still dominated there back then, now, most of them won’t even be replaced.
Sub-compact and compact SUVs and crossovers are hot now. Prime example, and highly successful: the 2013 Renault Captur, fully based on the B-segment Clio hatchback.
A tall car is great, but not when it looks like a box. It needs some styling too to become a success.
Sub-compact and compact SUVs and crossovers are hot now.
An analysis of European November auto sales was recently posted. Of all models and classes, while the Golf is still #1, by a wide margin, the Tiguan ranked 6th for the month, 8th year to date, and is nipping at the heals of the Skoda Octavia. The Renault Captur is 7th (13th ytd), and the Nissan Qashqai 8th (5th ytd).
These CUVs are all outselling the Ford Focus (10th), Opel Corsa (13th), and Astra (19th), Renault Megane (16th), VW Polo (17th) and the Fiat Panda (20th)
For comparison, in the US in December, the top three slots were filled by full size pickups, with the Camry 4th, Nissan Rogue 5th, Honda CR-V 6th, Chevrolet Equinox 7th, Toyota RAV-4 8th, followed by the Civic as the only other passenger car in the top ten, in 9th place, followed by the Ford Explorer. then two more SUVs and another pickup before arriving at the Honda Accord in 14th place. The Hyundai Elantra is 15th, followed by 3 more SUVs and 1 pickup before the Corolla fills the bottom of the top 20 list.
In the US, this is quite a collapse of passenger car sales. It was not that long ago that the Camry, Accord, Civic and Corolla outsold every model of SUV.
Steve, those numbers are a little deceiving as seasonality surely factors into the mix. Looking at the full year numbers tells a slightly different story:
F-Series
Silverado
RAM
RAV4
Rogue
Camry
CRV
Civic
Corolla
Accord
Note that NONE of the sedans/coupes in this top-10 is offered with an AWD/4WD version anymore but that all of the Trucks and CUV’s are offered both ways. I think that is what is logically skewing the December-only data a bit.
However, yes, obviously the CUV has made huge inroads over the years with no signs of slowing. More interesting is that the Japanese marques’ compact CUV’s outsell all of their own sedans (except Camry) and EVERYTHING US-Branded with the exception (and it’s a huge one) of their Pickups.
“A tall car is great, but not when it looks like a box.”
Unless, of course, your name is “Jeep.” The Renegade’s even made in Italy.
Steve, those numbers are a little deceiving as seasonality surely factors into the mix. Looking at the full year numbers tells a slightly different story:
F-Series
Silverado
RAM
RAV4
Rogue
Camry
CRV
Civic
Corolla
Accord
The top selling vehicles of all of calendar 2016:
1. Ford F-Series:
2. Chevrolet Silverado:
3. RAM Trucks
4. Toyota Camry
5. Honda Civic
6. Toyota Corolla
7. Honda CR-V
8. Toyota RAV4
9. Honda Accord
10. Nissan Rogue
December 2016. position for December, with change in position for that month.
1 Ford F-series
2 Chevrolet Silverado
3 Ram Pickup
4 (+9) Nissan Rogue
5 (+4) Honda CR-V
6 (+2) Toyota RAV4
7 (-2) Honda Accord
8 (-4) Toyota Camry
9 (-3) Honda Civic
10 (-3) Toyota Corolla
There is a significant shift in the market that is even impacting the strongest passenger cars. The top 4 passenger cars may pick up some business as competition falls away. Ford has essentially confirmed the Fusion will be dropped for all markets except China. The Impala and Cruze are under review. The Verano, Dart and 200 are already gone.
It boggles my mind Ford would drop the Fusion. Perhaps the rest of the country is a bit different but it is a monster seller over here, not only to end consumers but taxi and other fleet sales. I don’t have hard numbers, but just from what I’d see the Prius and Fusion are they only vehicles you see in equal proportions to consumer/fleet, which should be a hugely popular niche to be in.
If my wife is any guide, the combination of looks and the truly horrible transmission would make the 500L a non-starter. We’ve both driven quite a few- no love here. We did rent a Ford Galaxie minivan the last trip over, and were very impressed by it. Tons of room in a reasonably sized package, and the diesel/automatic drove out quite well. Translation- didn’t cause any anxiety attacks on Germany’s Autobahns.
My hat’s also off to the OP for braving Rome’s traffic. It’s unlike any city I’ve ever driven in.
We had a Ford Galaxy the last time across as well with all five of us and I was also quite impressed by it. The size and packaging were perfect (slightly smaller than the current US offerings) and the power/fuel economy trade-off was excellent as well (4cyl diesel/automatic for me as well)
Like the idea that you economized on the amount of luggage. Most Americans will bring steamer trunks of clothes to Europe; half of which they never wear.
The 500L might seem silly in North America and even somewhat in Germany, but if you see the conditions it was designed for yourself it suddenly makes perfect sense. Although not as smart as either the Fiat Multipla or the Opel Meriva, it tries to make the most out of its small footprint. And with the diesel and the manual, it’s actually quite a joy to drive. And ironically, the 6-speed diesel allows a very smooth ride.
Below the one Buchbinder gave me a few months ago. Not the car I booked, but somehow most cheaper rentals in Germany are Fiats. Despite the overstyled off-kilter design of the exterior, the dark colour and the interior design were actually quite tasteful.
That is a good looking 500L! The color and exterior trim changes are really a huge improvement. The modest grey cladding along the bottom and wheel openings accomplishes a lot.
I’ve realy tried to like the 500L styling and shape, but it just doesn’t work for me. The only nice thing I can say about it is that it does evoke the original 600 Multipla quite well, but the original is much better. By comparison, I think the normal (modern) 500 is brilliant. To be fair, I haven’t ridden let alone driven either. Last Fiat I drove was a rental Marea, also in Italy in 2001; the last one I rode in was a rental 2003 Multipla, pre-facelift, which is so ugly I like it. And I got to ride in the middle front seat.
I think it may have been a better seller over here if they had simply renamed it the 600. Or 700 or 1000 or whatever, but a larger number than the 500.
I’ve never needed an “international driver permit” for renting cars in Germany, France, UK (or Iceland) Not 100% sure about other European countries such as Italy but don’t believe it is actually required as long as your US license is valid.
Nice write-up, for your next travel challenge, rent something where they drive on the “wrong” side! It is shockingly different, much more than you would imagine at first.
We’re getting there, Jim, later in the same venture!
Quite right, IDP is a useless piece of paper only providing $50 to AAs around the world. I’ve never needed one anywhere.
KJ in Oz
I drove that 1.3 diesel some years ago in a Punto 6 speed manual, which did about 2600 rpm at 80mph, and what a cracker of a motor once moving. Amazing to stand on the pedal in 6th at 60 and it would bolt up to 80+, all on less than 79 cubic inches. Honestly felt twice that size on freeways. However, it did have to be revved suprisingly hard around town, and had nothing at all below 1700 revs (peak torque, I think, impressive on paper but only arriving all at once),really only fixed by slipping the clutch a bit, but it was never left behind once going. Crazy economy (the Punto isn’t tiny though smaller than the 500L) but did you find it took a bit of concentration to stay on the boil in traffic?
I used to be dismissive of the 500L, mainly due to its odd appearance, but favorable articles like this one have changed my opinion. With a normal automatic instead of the dual-clutch thing (does anyone make a good version of that type of transmission?), given the low sales numbers, seems like it wouldn’t be too hard to get a good deal on one. I especially like the suggestion that making a few subtle styling alterations would give Chrysler dealers a second generation PT Cruiser. And a larger, non-premium fuel engine would be a welcome change, as well.
I also really like the comparison with the Traverse and the 500L regarding the interior. It’s a shame that domestic consumers seem to feel that the idea of jamming a nearly useless third row seat into a vehicle of this type gives it more interior room, instead of a well thought-out, efficient interior with just second row rear seating, seems like a domestic thing.
One of the best examples of this was the old, unloved Jeep Commander which came with a joke of a third row seat. It was Jeep’s attempt at an old-school Hummer competitor. Unfortunately, it was grossly inefficient in just about every area (worse than the Hummer), and came out right at the height of the run-up in gas prices during Hurricane Katrina. It didn’t last long.
Thanks for a very entertaining read Importamation! Many a chuckle reading this as a city centre resident of an ancient European capital, and (consequently) a regular rental-car user. Fascinating seeing the things which struck you as odd or noteworthy (ram-packed car-parks, single-track roads… well packaged sensibly sized cars) which we just take for granted here.
Minor nit-pick: I get what you meant by “U.S. style boulevard” but have to point out that they’re inherently European (the word Boulevard is French!)
Back on-topic, the 500L – as BeWo says a couple of comments up, it’s a less stark example of FIAT’s packaging prowess than the departed Multipla (or any generation of Panda for that matter), though similarly polarising in styling terms. Unlike the Multipla (which I like as an oddball) I don’t think the 500L works. I’ve always thought it a shame they didn’t manage to pull off something that size but with the style of the 500 Gardiniera concept (pictured). Maybe next time around.
Looking forward to reading more of your adventures – did you make it to Scotland?
My wife drives a 2015 500L with the Aisan transmission and we both really like the car.
I sometimes think someone totally unqualified styled the 500L’s exterior (Andreas Wuppinger are you listening); there are small visual details and surface transitions that speak to a certain naivete — e.g., the base trim at the bottom of each side window terminates at the engine hood in a blunt full force stop and at the rear just stops altogether. As if no one sought to resolve the side, front and rear aspects of the design. Because we essentially really like the car, I tend to think of its looks the way you’d think of your dogs looks, if you had, say, a French Bulldog: not pretty, but endearing in an ugly sort of way.
Word is, the interior was developed first and then the exterior. Interestingly, no one fully describes the interior flexibility:
— the passenger seat can fold down for long loads
— the rear seats can recline, not fully, but they can recline.
— the rear seats can slide back and forth to re-prioritize cargo/passenger volume
— the rear seats can tumble forward for big, tall objects
— the rear seats can fold down
— the rear area has a cargo panel that can “live” at one of three levels, the highest which aligns with the rear seats when folded down to make an almost level load floor.
When we travel with our dog, we raise that cargo panel and pack underneath it — we have the Beats amplifier and can still fit a ton of stuff under that cargo panel.
So it is really an MPV — with expansive visibility.
We have the mid-level trim version that was offered in 2015, EASY, and the car is nicely saturated with small but thoughtful features: capless fueling, headlight delay, auto up and down on all four windows, etc. We have the full Uconnect Nav/Bluetooth head unit which is very easy to use. And we have the massive panoramic moonroof –which we love.
So far: not a problem to speak of at 25,000 miles.
So, yes, give credit where credit is due.
Will two large suitcases and a carry-on fit in the trunk/boot? I am referring to 28 inch large spinners and the standard 20-22 inch spinners?