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What happens when you take an underachieving bus and try to turn it into a cheap train for an underfunded rail system? You get the horror that is the British Rail Pacer series of trains, probably the worst way to travel across Britain since the stagecoach.
Liverpool Lime Street
Readers of CC will know that I have a soft spot for some of Britain’s unloved railway classics, such as the flawed APT, the tired HST and the outdated EM1 electrics. But the only soft spot I have for the Pacer is a deep peat bog. Here’s the story, prompted by Jim Brophy’s recent post of a ’how not to drive a Leyland National’ video.
In the 1950s, British Railways discovered the diesel multiple unit (DMU) – basically, a set of two, three or four passenger coaches with a diesel engine under some or all of the vehicles and a driving cab at each end of the unit, and capable of operating in multiple with another set. Produced by the hundreds to a huge range of designs by several builders (and therefore with many incompatible types – none of the universal compatibility that American diesel locomotive manufacturers managed), they replaced ancient steam locomotives pulling knackered old coaches on secondary and branch lines across the country, simultaneously cutting costs and stimulating passengers and thus saving many routes from the Beeching Axe of the 1960s. But by the mid 1970s, these DMUs were in turn ready to retire (and riddled with asbestos), and BR needed a replacement.
As this was the Britain in the 1970s, money was in short supply and any large scale replacement had to be cheap. The class 150 ‘Sprinter’ series of two car units replaced some of the old DMUs with a modern version of the same concept, with better acceleration (hence the name) and an interior more like a contemporary mainline coach, but the funds for total replacement of the ‘First Generation’ DMUs by Sprinters was not there.
So Leyland came to the rescue, with a version of the Leyland National bus. Yes, really.
To be fair, the National was an interesting bus – a big step forward from the traditional Atlantean chassis and body concept. Designed in partnership with the state owgned National Bus Company (hence the name), it was single deck rear engined monocoque, rather than the traditional separate chassis supplied with a choice of bodystyles from a variety of builders. This was intended to produce a lighter, stronger and simpler bus; its modular style allowed for easy replacement of damaged panels. So far, so good.
But it was a typical British Leyland project – over ambitious use of new technology in a new factory with an inexperienced workforce, with predictable quality issues from the start. The chosen site for the factory was Workington in Cumbria, in the far north west of England – an attempt at economic stimulus in an area that had historically struggled – like Rootes at Linwood, Leyland would have preferred to have been allowed to expand nearer home.
The National aimed to capitalise on new regulations allowing for driver only single deckers, and an anticipated upsurge in demand for them in urban areas, but this didn’t materialise and soon double deckers could be single crewed anyway. Styling was by Michelotti, no less, building on his links with Leyland through Triumph, and it certainly looked contemporary. The engine was the Leyland 510, an 8.3 litre six cylinder diesel (in a problematic horizontal installation); it proved to be heavy on fuel and an enthusiastic polluter if not properly maintained – which was difficult.
The first production version of the National came in 1972. But, Leyland being Leyland, sales were disappointing, despite the captive market of the NBC. Instead of the hoped for 2,000 per year, only 7,000 were built over its 13 years from 1972 to 1985.
The revised Mark 2 of 1979 offered a wider choice of power units, and a new face with a car like grille as the radiator moved to the front. The last ones left regular service in 2007.
It isn’t clear which genius turned the National into the Pacer. I imagine that’s because no one wants to have it on their record. Initially, in 1978, it was a single vehicle, so a railcar rather than a multiple unit, known as the LEV1 (Leyland Experimental Vehicle), and looking like what it was – a Leyland National body on a railway underframe. It literally was a Leyland National bolted to a 4 wheel, 2 axle freight wagon chassis, with the Leyland TL11 engine and a mechanical gearbox slung underneath. Four wheeled passenger vehicles had been built nowhere else in the world for perhaps 50 years; you would think this would deter reasonable people, but it didn’t.
Newcastle Central
By 1979, a class 140 prototype two car unit had appeared.
Sheffield Midland
Series production, of the class 141 and 142 followed in 1984 and 1985. The 141s were inflicted on Yorkshire, serving networks around Leeds and Bradford, and were such a success they had to be rebuilt by Hunslet Barclay in 1988. The interior was pure bus, with no attempt to pretend it wasn’t a bus on rails.
Here’s the proof – Leyland National above, Pacer below. Spot the difference. The Pacer even has a step inside the folding doors (which are standard bus doors!), just like a bus but unlike any proper British train.
To be fair the interiors have improved over the years, with better seats. But they are still horribly noisy and cramped, and ride like something with no suspension – superficial changes can’t hide the basic flaws underneath!
And the driving cab remains, er, ‘simple’
The 142s had a wider version of the National body, allowing 3+2 seating. They were sent to Devon and Cornwall, to work the rural branches that remain from the old Great Western Railway. These are quiet in winter, but busy in summer, so obviously a small and inflexible fleet of trains without corridor connections and which can’t work with anything else is ideal. Summer crowds on the Newquay branch in particular had cause to hate these things. Not even painting them in GWR chocolate and cream and calling them ‘Skippers’ could hide their crudeness. Or make them reliable.
These branch lines also highlighted one of the Pacer’s biggest weaknesses – the long fixed wheelbase of the 2 axle chassis, and its difficulty in coping with sharp curves, which produced horrendous squealing noises as the thing dragged itself round. A Pacer on sharp curves in the Devon valleys has to be heard to be believed. Never mind passengers, local residents complained about the racket! Nobody had bothered to specify sanding equipment for the wheels, which would have abated the sound, and it was decided it was easier to send the 142s up North, where they would be out of sight (if not sound), rather than retrofit it.
Cardiff
Over the years, Pacers have been used all across the north and south west of England and Wales, but for some reason never near London and the south east, where passengers have had to make do with proper trains replaced at regular intervals. Pacers have carried commuters into the great cities of Bristol, Cardiff, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Bradford, Sheffield, York and Newcastle upon Tyne for years. The thought of regularly enduring a standing room only Pacer in the rush hour is not a comfortable one, but thousands have to.
Middlesbrough
In addition to commuting routes, Pacers have been deemed sufficient for such cross country routes as Sheffield to Manchester; Newcastle to Carlisle; Leeds to Carlisle; Middlesbrough to Whitby; and around the Cumbrian coast – all journeys well over 2 hours long. In what is basically a bus, without the air suspension of the original National. Or, indeed, much suspension at all. Smooth as an HST at twice the speed (or more – Pacers don’t do fast) it isn’t. And little sound insulation either, as asbestos was now banned, and nobody bothered to find an alternative.
So bus seats, squealing wheels, no suspension. This video above shows the interior environment to perfection. People have to pay for this experience, still.
One nightmare has always been the Pacer’s structural strength. Happily, there have been few accidents of note (they don’t go fast enough, probably), but this happened in 1999 – a (fortunately) empty stationary Pacer was crushed by an electric express which had slowed to 50mph – the Pacer’s body was fully separated from the chassis. Could have been a lot worse, and you wonder how long Pacers would have lasted had this one had passengers aboard!
Incredibly, the Pacer has an international history. In 1986, 142049 was sent to Expo 86 in Vancouver; here Canadian Pacific carry it across the Rockies. It was used at the Expo as a shuttle link to the city. It is said that then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher actually rode on it there; no wonder she hated trains so much. And in 2002, 12 redundant 141 units were sold to Iran and served there for a few years before being unceremoniously dumped – well before their classmates in the UK, ironically enough.
Carlisle
We mustn’t blame Leyland alone, however. Determined to show it could do rubbish too, the normally sensible Hunslet Barclay company produced the 143 and 144 classes of Pacer, using the same freight wagon chassis and bodies based on a Walter Alexander bus body. Some of these mutated into three car units, in a feeble attempt to be a real train. They at least avoided the Leyland diesel, being fitted with Cummins power units from the start. These engines were also retrofitted to the Leyland designs from the late-1980s.
Clockwise from top right – Great Western; Tyne and Wear PTE; Greater Manchester PTE; First North Western; Arriva Wales; West Yorkshire PTE
One thing you can’t accuse Pacers of is all looking the same. There have been myriad liveries over the years, from the various British Rail divisions in the 1980s and 1990s, then the public transport authorities of the North – West and South Yorkshire; Greater Manchester; Merseyside; and Tyne and Wear – and of south Wales. And now a wide range of privatised operators. Livery changes are so frequent you could be forgiven for thinking organisations were reluctant to be seen as owning them for some reason.
There is finally some hope for the future, however. European regulations, the snappily titled ‘Persons with Reduced Mobility – Technical Specification for Interoperability’, come into force on 1 January 2020. The interfering Brussels bureaucrats (as we are relentlessly told we must call the European Union, but that’s another story) have decreed (for which read, the 28 governments of the EU’s independent sovereign states have agreed) that by that date all trains operating in the EU must be fully accessible to wheelchair users, with accessible toilets (and ones that don’t dump their contents straight onto the track) and proper passenger information systems – all things the Pacers lack. So they have to go by the end of next year, and good riddance. Now fewer than 500 sleeps to go!
Good enough for Leeds, apparently
Despite this, the mandarins of the UK Government’s Department for Transport (DfT), who control rolling stock specification and procurement for the privatised railway very tightly (as they basically fund it, through franchise agreements) seriously proposed that the 40 year old Pacers could and should be adapted to meet the new requirements and serve another twenty years. You don’t get a prize for guessing said mandarins work in London, and not up North, where people have had to endure these wretched things for too long already.
Not good enough for London, apparently
Meanwhile, new Siemens electric multiple units built for services to London Waterloo station from the south western suburbs and introduced in 2017 are now being withdrawn (and stored, with no future use identified) to be replaced by brand new Hitachi units funded through a government franchise, just as the £15bn Crossrail, a brand new mainline standard rail tunnel across London from east to west opens, with brand new rolling stock, and the north-south Thameslink is developed into a 24 train per hour system, with brand new stations and brand new automatically controlled train. And Crossrail 2, a bargain at £30bn, crossing London from north to south, is moving fast towards construction. And rail fares are cheaper, in pence per mile, in London than across the Pennines.
And what will replace the Pacers, when the great day dawns in January 2020? New, state of the art electric units, capable of 100mph smoothly, quietly, comfortably and safely, like they get down south? Not really. There may be some for the longer journeys across the North (but heavy and therefore slow diesel-electric bi-modes, as the government now judges the North doesn’t need electrification, and has reneged on a commitment to trans-Pennine wires), but the DfT’s favoured idea at the moment seems to be the Class 230, which is a redundant London Underground electric unit dating from 1976 fitted with the diesel engine from a Ford Transit. Yes, seriously. Northern commuters are expected to welcome 40 year old cast offs from the Underground, while Londoners get brand new trains on virtually every commuter route, and those 3 year old Siemens units sit and rust on an airfield somewhere. Why not reengineer them instead of a cast off Tube train? But the government assures us that rail investment is fairly spread across the country, so that’s alright then, and we mustn’t grumble.
Early testing of the 230 has not been problem free. Seems nobody realised that the train environment is harsher than a Ford Transit’s, and fuel lines need to be upgraded accordingly.
Some say that the Pacer, by being a cheap DMU replacement, saved some routes from a second wave of closure; this is only a valid reason for not hating them if you accept that the fifth richest country in the world can’t afford to fund decent public transport for significant population centres – which it clearly can, but the centre chooses not to cough up. But, incredibly, as many as 34 (or almost one third the seating capacity of a two car Pacer unit) out of 60 million Brits appear to care enough to want to preserve a Pacer. I guess we could spare one from the scrapyard, as a warning from history. But not two, please. We can’t risk a breeding pair of the things!
Wow, quite a tale. Living down South, I’ve never encountered this particular horror. The govt will simply never stop being stupid and short-sighted will it ?
Great article – very informative about this aspect of British Rail.
A very interesting piece, very educational to someone from the central US where rail travel is as common as horse drawn travel.
Are we sure that the 34 votes are not the insidious work of foreign trolls? 🙂
34 dodgy cockneys.
My wife and I traveled on these throughout Wales in 2010. It was kind of a shock at first in Cardiff when we boarded the train for a trip up the Central Wales line but we got used to them as thats all we were on for the next while. I seem to remember the visibility for passengers was very good.
That visibilty is their strongest point. Too many modern trains have very poor sight lines, sometimes even so called ‘window’ seats stuck by a blank wall. For commuter lines it’s not so important, but on scenic routes part of the attraction of rail travel is actually being able to see the glorious scenery.
Horror story indeed, but at least I can say the sprinter trains today are perfectly adequate, in the south at least
I have to attend events in Cardiff, as with any city, parking is a pain and costs more than the return fare from Newport. So I take the train, they are comfortable, clean and quiet, more like aircraft seating than the old rolling stock with corridors.
Far more comfortable and relaxing than a car, they might be fast , but can often require a change of train to reach the end destination, and long journeys are too expensive
Great article. Never, ever let a politician say, “This is just a temporary measure while the budget is poorly.” For them, it’s permanently poorly, and the short-term fix is forever thereafter caught in the same bind. (Forever, or dependent on how safe the seat is in which the temporary fix is located, but I digress).
That video is just a horror ride. I never knew the fabled disregard for the North was as blatant as the example of these nasty machines.
Two questions. When you say “sanding equipment”, I always assumed that was for acceleration and braking grip: how does it stop that awful squealing? Secondly, you really must explain what you mean by a Transit engine in the old Tube trains. It can’t be powering it, but surely it’s not enough even for an el-cheapo re-gen unit on an electric?
Persons with Reduced Mobility – Technical Specification for Interoperability
Not only the wheelchair users benefit from the barrier-free access, the families with prams and small children, the people with shopping trolleys, the delivery personnel with carts, etc. do benefit from that.
Same for the visual announcement panels that benefit not only the deaf people but hearing people who have to hear hard through mechanical noise and din of other passengers talking, etc. Sometimes, they miss the announcements or couldn’t understand the accents, especially for the foreign visitors.
That’s the price of progress: eliminating the archaic trains and buses in name of barrier-free access that benefit people with and without disabilities. Sometimes, it means completely new trains and buses and getting rid of less desirable ones. However, that doesn’t mean the end of those old trains and buses. I am trying to recall a city in Deep South that has several buses from the 1950s restored and modified to include the wheelchair lift that blends in with the design so successfully. They are used on regular routes.
The Leyland railbus was the ‘nothing’ end of the ‘All or nothing’ two pronged DMU replacement programme around 1978. The ‘All’ end was a new generation of high-speed, above floor engined Diesel-Electric units, based firmly on then current Electric Multiple Unit practice, powered by smaller versions of the HST Paxman engines. One was barely adequate, but cheap, the other over-the-top and expensive. No need to guess which the Department of Transport preferred! In the end it was the local Passenger Transport Executives (the Regional public transport authorities), in particular West Midlands that pushed for a ‘proper’ new generation DMU, the ‘Sprinters’ but not before hundreds of railbuses had been ordered. Amazing to think these cheapies will be close to 40 years old when they finally go – assuming Brexit doesn’t allow for a cop-out, that is. Ironic though, that in some places they might be replaced with re-engineered 1978 London Transport ‘surface’ stock. Mind it wouldn’t be the first time that old LT trains have been reused – look at the Isle of Wight where they are still running 1938 tube trains (real ‘tube’ trains for the smaller deep level lines), 80 years old this year.
A fascinating look at a situation that can’t be defined by a casual user of the system. I’m sure I’ve been on some of these over the years, having had family in “The North” but can’t recall a specific instance. Thank goodness I’m not a regular user, it is certainly interesting (but not surprising) how London and its environs gets so much of the budget and the other parts get so much less, comparatively speaking.
Still, the rail (and public transit) situation over here in the States is several orders of magnitude worse. Having depended on commuter rail (CalTrain) for a while and used several rail systems (Long Island, Chicago) they get you there eventually but really are only an alternate due to the horrific traffic and parking costs otherwise incurred, not as an attractive alternate “choice”.
No system seems to do a very good job for those with special needs, which as Oliver pointed out, also includes the very common situation of parents with strollers etc.
Here’s what I remember from visiting England in 1993. We were staying in Ipswich, and took the train most days in to London for our sightseeing. No difficulty there; the equipment was up-to-date and quite comfortable. One day, though, we went to Cambridge instead. We boarded what seemed a rather elderly car (I think there were a couple of cars attached); it appeared to be a self-contained thing. The seats indeed had all the charm and comfort of municipal bus seats. Then the engine started, with a mighty diesel clatter, and the car started to move. Next we felt the transmission lurch into the next gear. And so we were off to Cambridge, clunking along roughly in what really did feel like a bus on rails. After a day of sightseeing, including Evensong at the chapel of King’s College (professionally, I’m an organist, and King’s College is one of the great sites for Anglican and Episcopalian musicians), we boarded a totally different set of equipment to return to Ipswich. There was still the sound of a diesel engine, muffled to a quiet purr, and the seats were comfortable and up-to-date, and the interior was clearly that of a train, not a bus. The ride was smooth and quiet, too.
Four wheeled passenger vehicles had been built nowhere else in the world for perhaps 50 years;
Actually, the very successful Talgo trains, which have been built continuously since 1942, use only a single axle between each coach, yet ride quite well considering how light they are. But they do use air springs.
You make it sound as there is no suspension on the Pacers at all, so I looked it up: there are two coil springs and two shocks per wheel. Undoubtedly an air suspension would have been better.
Yès, I was being a bit tongue in cheek saying no suspension, but such is the ride there might as well not be any!
Talgo is a very different approach, which hasn’t made it to the UK yet (clearance issues may be prohibitive as its movement is different to ordinary rolling stock?), but, yes, a shared axle between each coach pair.
What I failed to mention in my earlier comment is that these two axle railbuses were hardly unique to Great Britain. In Germany, there was a very long line of Schienenbusse (rail buses) that were very similar in concept, that started in 1938 and were built in numerous generations and used until very recently. Some are still in use on some private rail lines.
They were of course simple, rugged, and primitive too, like the Pacers. But Germans felt rather fondly about them; maybe a different attitude or expectations? These were rail buses after all, usually used on branch lines and at modest speeds. It’s not exactly a replacement for a mainline express of high speed train.
Very similar two axle rail buses were used in almost all European countries. here’s a good wikipedia page, although in German:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schienenbus
Here’s a less comprehensive one on railbus in English:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railbus
There was an earlier generation of 4-wheel railbuses in the UK too in the late 1950s, but the kind of lines they were built for mostly shut in the Beeching cuts so they mostly had very short service lifes. Several were preserved, including some of the German Waggon & Maschinenbau ones.
The Pacers weren’t the first railbuses built by Leyland either, they built three back in 1933.
http://www.ribblevalleyrail.co.uk/Leyland%20Bus.htm
It seems like there are a few major differences between the Railbus and the Pacer in the Railbus’ favor:
*The Railbus looks like it has a shorter wheelbase, so the screeching around curves probably isn’t as much of a problem
*AFAIK it didn’t have the suspension problems the Pacer had
*Overall, it was designed from the ground up as a rail vehicle rather than being a bus grafted onto a rail chassis, with all of the design compromises that that entails.
*Finally, it was used (to the best of my knowledge) almost entirely on short branchline runs, rather than the 2 hour+ runs the Pacer has been used on
OMG, Currently Auckland city council is installing a rail network for their city only 75 years too late but hey points for effort, the constant whinging from Aucklanders about the regional fuel tax being applied to pay for it will no doubt result in some cost cutting, I can see in my minds eye a few hundred junky ex Japan imported buses being converted for rail use if this Leyland idea ever gets known, Getting Aucklanders out of their cars and easing gridlock will meet with another failure.
Looks like bus-based MUs have been tried pretty much everywhere in the world. Back in 1983 the Hungarian bus manufacturer Ikarus produced a batch of DMUs based on the Ikarus 200 series in cooperation with Ganz-MÁVAG (which later became Ganz-Hunslet after privatisation). Most of those ended up in Malaysia. The difference was that they were proper MUs. In the 90s there was an attempt at converting a regular bus into a DMU, but it didn’t work out.
Here are some pictures:
http://iho.hu/hir/sinautobusz-szentesen
Those early Pacer liveries look oh so 80s and remind me how dire British industry and transport was in the 80s. I never rode those things since the furthest North I went by train was Leicester. I did ride the D78 London Underground trains quite a bit and the District Dave message board had a longish thread on the class 230.
We had similar issues in the US, the various attempts to replace 1950s and 1960s vintage Budd RDC DMUs were pretty bad, although the ealry 2000s Colorado Railcar units Portland OR bought for the WES line were OK.
The RDC deserves its own track side classic and one set runs on the WES between Wilsonville and Beaverton as a backup to the newer units.
Too bad there was no internet or Google when these were conceived. If such things had existed, they could have looked up the General Motors Aerotrain of the 50s.
The Aerotrain was supposed to present the future of passenger rail service and, with great confidence, GM built two trainsets for use by roads around the US.
The Aerotrain coaches were modified GM intercity bus bodies, with one axle per end, and did not interchange with any other passenger coach. The engine was also unique and could only be used with the Aerotrain coaches. GM assured everyone that a sophisticated air suspension would make the lightweight converted bus bodies ride smoothly.
The result? The coaches were rough riding and noisy. The roads that tried them, handed them back to GM and returned to using E units and Budd coaches.
I remember seeing a picture of the ‘Aerotrain’ in my ‘Book of Knowledge’ when I was a child. While it appeared fantastical and strange, it’s actually a Talgo, albeit an early one, so not really a simple 4-wheeler. While Talgos have been used in several countries, it’s only Spain that seems to have stuck with them long-term.
The 4-wheel railbus keeps cropping up and has done since the early 1900s at least, largely because it is cheap, which makes it tempting to ignore past experience.
… it’s actually a Talgo, albeit an early one,
iirc a Talgo shares a truck between two adjacent cars. Triple Crown does that with it’s bi-modal freight service.
The Aerotrain coaches had a single axle under each end of each coach. Back when the earth was young, I had a Varney HO model Aerotrain.
Is that Harley Earl getting on the train at 1:25?
As always, a very enjoyable article. Learned a few new things about the Leyland National. Jim.
These things sound like railroad equivalents of the Morris Marina-maybe the one they save can have a spot in the museum next to the Marina that’s also going to be saved as a warning…
Excellent post. Lots learned here – especially about the “That’ll do” attitude prevailing in Whitehall. John Fortune said of Britain’s defence policy “you only have to state what it is and people just laugh.” The same applies to Whitehall’s transport policy – especially rail.
While France was busy making TGVs and Italy made Pendolinos, Sir Humphrey looked at a Leyland bus and thought: “Here’s the future of rail travel. Not in London, though.”
Love that the sets that made it to Iran were discarded long before the ones in Wales and the North met a similar fate. They will meet that fate, right? Brexit notwithstanding, I mean.
What rationale (if any) have the DfT Bstrds provided for the Siemens trains being out of commission so soon?
Sir Humphrey
Would that be the same Sir Humphrey who struggled to explain how things work in terms that could be understood by dense politicians?
Yes, the Pacers will go. The accessibility rules will survive Brexit (one irony of ‘taking back control’ is that all EU legislation has to be transferred to British law).
And it allegedly better value to replace the Siemens units with newer ones as trains leasing costs have fallen so far in the last few years since the deal with Siemens was done. Whether that justifies the risk and disruption of the change, and the waste of perfectly good trains is another matter
These heaps operated on the railway line serving this Town …. for 7 weeks until endless complaints forced a very quick withdrawal & new trains bunged onto the route …
The National bus was used in its thousands for 35 years, and I think Venezuela still operate theirs ( the last ones?)
I recall the very noisy ” clacky” smokey 500 series engines, the jerk-o-matic air operated self-changing transmission & the hissing, clapping, windscreen wipers 🙂 .
The mk2 with the much bigger, deeper exhaust noted, engines seemed better.
Some had the roof pods; some didnt! Was it air conditioning?
I rode on one of these from London to Oxford in the mid-90s. It was a short 2-car train, and I wondered why the engine sounded like a bus, with labored diesel acceleration and multiple gear changes, instead of the steady hum of a typical train engine.
A few points need correcting in the article:
All Class 140, 141, 142, 143 and 144 Pacer units were built with Leyland TL11/65 engines. With the exception of 142050 all had mechanical SCG R500 gearboxes. There was soon an epidemic of failures with the SCG gearboxes. As an experiment, Class 141, 141113 was experimentaly fitted with Cummins L10 engines and Voith T211r hydraulic transmission at the Derby RTC in 1987 It was returned to service after testing. The experiment was an outstanding success and all Class 142s, 143s and 144s were fitted with Voith transmission between autumn 1988 and late March 1991. It needs pointing out that Class 144 units 144009-13 received Voith transmissions in late 1987, as the SCG gearboxes from them were needed for the centre cars being built for 144014-023.
The Leyland TL11 engines when coupled with an SCG gearbox were very quiet. Unfortunately, the same could not be said about Voith gearboxes. When converted, the TL11s were very noisy and sluggish proving to be unreliable. Consequently, new Cummins L10s were fitted to all 142s, 143s and 144s between March 1993 and April 1996. With the exception of 141113, all Class 141s retained Leyland TL11 engines and SCG gearboxes until withdrawal in 1995-98.
Despite people jumping on the bandwaggon, the Pacers offered far better ride quality than most of the first generation units that they replaced. I have noticed too that depsite having bogies, Class 185s and 350s are just as lively at the carriage ends when passing over points.The toilet is the main reason Pacers are being withdrawn, as they don’t meet PRM requirements.
It needs to be remembered that although a Pacer has a two step entrance, the first step is lower and it would be very hard for a passenger to fall between the gap and platform edge as I have witnessed with 150s on more than one occasion. They also were built to the full rail width of 2.83m and have wide gangways. A lot of recent units are not and the gangways are too narrow, which makes it difficult for anyone with large shopping bags.
As for 150s, I have absolutely hated them from new. The interior engine noise is horrendous and they are too claustrophobic and have poor natural illumination inside. It is fair to say that if more 150s had been built instead of Pacers, I would have used the train a lot less in the past 34 years.
If cascaded 150s replace Pacers on routes that I travel on, I reckon that I will have to use the car or bus instead. I am loathed to have to travel on trains I hate and have to pay ever increasing fares for the privilege!
I agree, 150s are dreadful. Much smoother ride than Pacers, sure, but the noise and visibility are awful.
Oh dear the usual rant by a northern victim complaining about investment going to London and the southeast. If you had done your research you would have known why pacers and skippers were not used on lines in the southeast and that was the reorganisation of British Rail from a regional system to one of business led sectors. Network southeast replaced most first generation DMUs and loco hauled trains with Class 165,166 and 159 DMUs. The remaining DMUs and demus were replaced by designs like Turbostars once British Rail was privatised. Pacers and Skippers were not used on lines in the Midlands, Eastern England or Scotland.