(Originally published 3 August 2016)
Now here is a very old product, shown here in an ancient bottle from when nothing seemed the matter with using “Chief Permatex” as a spokesman, that is still readily available: Indian Head gasket shellac. Generally, whoever newly discovers Indian Head gasket shellac uses it for its putative purpose as a gasket dressing only until the first time a gasket joint previously thus doped needs to be disassembled—usually quite awhile and thousands of miles and hundreds of Fahrenheit degrees later. Then you’re hosed, brother; the shellac has been thoroughly baked into an almost unbreakable solid. The disassembly and cleanup experience tends to be lengthy, injurious, and costly, and takes place in the realm bounded by frustration and futility: begone, puny gasket scraper, you have no power here.
Of course one immediately stops using Indian Head gasket shellac on gaskets, but the cessation’s effect is greatly retarded by all the many applications made between the time the first junction was shellacked into sealing and the time that first attempted disassembly learned you but good. (There are many other fine gasket gunkums that can be used where indicated without creating time-release hell for oneself or other tinkers or mechanics down the line, of course, but they are outside the scope of today’s symposium.)
There is a proper and perfect application for the hundred-and-ten-year-old formula that is Indian Head gasket shellac, though, and it is pharmaceutical. Every nigh and then, in the middle of repairing whatever you’re repairing, sometimes you lose your mojo. Your focus goes fuzzy; you start to get sidetracked and your mind wanders. Or you lose your cool, get angry and frustrated, and that’s when parts and tools and knuckles are about to break. But you keep a bottle of Indian Head on the garage shelf—upright always, else the lid gets shellacked shut—and at times like those you drop the wrench (gear puller, magnet-on-a-stick, whatever), take down the bottle of Indian Head gasket shellac, open it, take a little whiff, close it and put it up, and proceed on your repair with renewed concentration and back in the right headpsace.
It’s not that Indian Head gasket shellac contains any particularly potent aromatics or other chemicals that get you high, low, or sideways; the bottle contains nought but rosin suspended in ethanol, propanol, and methanol. It’s that nothing else—but nothing else—smells like Indian Head gasket shellac. It smells of carburetors rebuilt and carburettors (mind you) exorcised. It smells of tappet clearances adjusted, slack timing chains renewed and their covers sealed to a fare-thee-well, manifolds exchanged and oil pump pressure relief valves lapped and reset. It smells of moribund lawnmowers yanked back from the brink by their starter ropes. It smells of tractors’ wounds salved. It smells of cantankerous plumbing compression fittings made to quit dripping. All in all, it smells of the victory, however fleeting, of tenacity over entropy.
It is, you see, for when your head gasket leaks.
Ha, a brilliant exposition on an ancient automotive product. It has been my good fortune to never have to disassemble that on which I have used Indian Head while assembling. And it has been awhile, so I have kind of forgotten the smell. But it is surely a smell that has only good memories attached, seeing as how it was always used as a job was being successfully finished. This would make Liquid Wrench the stuff that is depressing to smell. 🙂
My car-mentor Howard swore by the stuff. He also taught me about Wesleys Bleech White for whitewall tires and Wesley’s Wax to bring a shine back to old enamel paint finishes.
Next you need to address that famous old compound that is good for either everything or nothing, depending on who you ask: Marvel Mystery Oil.
You know, I think you’re right about Liquid Wrench. Usually one only smells that swill when a job is at high risk of going badly—or already has. I’ll add penetrants to the list of CC Toolbox pieces to write. Marvel Mystery Oil will also get its due; it deserves it if for no other reason than the fabulous packaging.
Well said about Liquid Wrench. When it comes to sniffing solvents, I’m more of a WD-40 man myself, but when the going gets tough, Liquid Wrench is where it’s at…that and a torch…and maybe a welder to weld a nut to the stub of a bolt you just broke off…
PB Blaster smells like sadness and shame.
I’ve switched to a home brew of ATF and acetone. Smells great and works better than foul smelling Liquid Wrench.
I’m still having withdrawal symptoms from my penetrating oil of choice, Rawn Industrial Product 2 (aka RIP 2) being discontinued. It works far better than Liquid Wrench or WD-40, quickly working its way into the tiniest crevices and loosening them. I learned about it when a (somewhat) local electronics parts store just north of Baltimore, Baynesville Electronics, gave away RIP 2 spray cans (and other things) as a promo at a amateur radio show I went to as a tween. I bought a few more cans in the late 90s when I could order it online, and finally found myself across the street from Baynesville for something unrelated about 12 years ago and paid a visit there to buy more RIP 2 and thank them for giving away that sample way back in the ’70s, but by then they no longer stocked it (and I learn now that Baynesville itself went out of business five years ago 🙁 ). I can find references to Rawn Chemicals online but all of their distributors and such seem to be unreachable or gone.
Marvel Mystery Oil is a joke, yet clam brains keep buying it.
What a great write up. I am a fan of Permatex Aviation sealer; it too, is a pain to remove after it gets baked on. As far as Marvel Mystery Oil goes, I am in the good for nothing camp. Kerosene or diesel fuel works just as well.
Thank you kindly, suzulight!
I use Marvel Mystery Oil to lubricate air tools. One air tool from an American company came with a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil. Years ago, I took flying lessons at a small airport. The owner of the rental aircraft bought Marvel Mystery Oil in 5-gallon cans, and added it to tbe crankcase oil of valuable aircraft engines. He was an A & P mechanic, and those plane engines are unbelievably expensive to overhaul. Did he know something? Indeed.
Old style can.
Shellac sets hard so really its useless, what ever you smear on gaskets has to be non setting so said item can be disassembled at a future time without having to replace the gasket, Hylomar blue is the Rolls Royce of gasket compounds.
Yes, Hylomar is great stuff. There is such a thing as a reusable gasket, and occasionally one gets in a bind where it’s necessary to reuse a non-reusable gasket and hope for the best, but gasket dressing is not meant to make a gasket reusable.
Times two on the Permatex 3 aviation sealer. It comes off with brake cleaner most of the time for me, because it never really dries. Basically, I’ll use it on just about any gasket surface that I’m not quite sure of, even threads sometimes.
If I can’t find a gasket or I don’t want to wait for one to come in, RTV is OK. I just used it on the ’65 Skylark’s rear axle cover when I realized the one Rock Auto sent me was wrong. Of course, scraping that is no picnic either.
One thing I won’t use as a sealer ever again is 3M weatherstrip adhesive, or gorilla snot as it’s affectionately nicknamed. I feel like that’s the more modern version of Indian Head Shellac: it works, but it’s forever!
Oof, yeah, I would not use weatherstrip adhesive as a gasket sealer. I have a dysfunctional relationship with RTV; some days are sublime and others are stormy. That’ll get its own writeup, by and by.
I once had an associate who was a fly by night auto mechanic. He picked up a used Fiat 124 spyder with a broken oil pump. The casting of the pump goes down into the oil pan with the pick up tube and screen. The casting broke in half. This guy used 3m “Gorilla Snot” yeller glue to glue it back together and get the car running. He drove that car for at least a year like that. I lost track of him but no doubt that that oil pump is still held together 30 years later.
Yup. When I rebuild a marine stern drive, I coat all the hardware liberally with the aviation sealer. It prevents corrosion between the stainless steel hardware and the aluminum alloy case, and also between the aluminum housings themselves. Never really hardens unless exposed to fairly high temps, and makes future disassembly rather easy. And I will add, today’s RTV is really good. I like Permatex Ultra Gray
I think RTV merits its own writeup. I’ll add it to the list.
Permeated Ultra Grey for the win!!!
Indian Head Gasket Shellac has a non-automotive use, too. When restoring old record changers for which the rubber drive wheels have become slippery and are no longer available, a slippery one can be restored for light-duty use by chucking it in an electric drill and sanding the surface as it is rotated, to remove rough or flat spots. Then I rub the Indian Head Gasket Shellac into the newly-renewed rubber surface. The rosin, carried by the solvents, penetrates into the pores of the rubber and provides some grip to the wheel, more so than the plain rubber which has probably oxidized over the decades so it got slippery.
Revulcanizing new rubber is always a possibility, but some people don’t want to spend the money; and it is also possible to grind down the wheel some more and glue a rubber belt of proper size to it, providing a new rubber surface. But for occasional use the Indian Head Gasket Shellac works well; better, in fact, than commercial rosin/solvent preparations intended for the purpose. I think it’s because the Gasket Shellac uses several different solvents, making it penetrate better.
Hey, now that’s really interesting. Such an application wouldn’t’ve occurred to me, but I’m going to file it away—it’s the kind of tidbit that I can foresee coming in useful someday.
Say, d’you know anyone in North America who could fix problems with a Telefunken 6001 combination FM/AM/turntable?
The best stuff for hardened rubber belts and rollers is oil of wintergreen. Smells like the Wrigley’s factory but really softens up old rubber so it has a strong grip.
Based on ancient native american head gasket repairing traditions, I assume?
If not for the logo on the bottle, we’d have a real poser on our hands: is it Indian-brand head gasket shellac, or is it Indian Head-brand gasket shellac?
Guess here’s as good a place as any to mention that in prepping for this writeup I found a Chinese knockoff: Head (brand) gasket shellac in a very similar brown bottle with white print.
“Indian Head”? Just try to use that name in today`s politically correct world.
Er…click the links; this is a current-production product readily available through mainstream channels. The name is in use right now, today, in this world.
Also, there’s a difference between being “politically correct” (a buzzphrase primarily used as a red button to shut down conversation on uncomfortable topics) and being polite (i.e., being a thoughtful grownup). It’s just plain good manners to avoid misappropriating and caricaturing another culture in just about any context, but especially to sell products.
What about a jeep cherokee?
Or a Winnebago Tioga, or the Washington Redskins, or Squaw Peak, or any of many others. Bad manners are common.
In my cabinet are two items that each feature similar caricatures. A bag of Indian Head Cornmeal, and a can of Daufuski Oysters, both bought in the last few months.
“Indian Head” is also the predecessor of the Lincoln Penny, introduced in 1909. Technically however, the face was the likeness of a “white” woman wearing a headdress. Hence, the Sacagawea Dollar was the 1st proper “Indian” coin (trivia: she was Shoshone, & married to a French-Canadian trapper).
My 2¢ worth (pun intended): Why not call them “Tribal Americans?” After all, they identify themselves with tribes, & avoids equivocation with the term “native” & also confusion with folks from India.
Or why not call them whatever they want to be called? It’s not for us to decide that for them.
I misread that as “she was Shoshone, & married to a French-Canadian rapper”
I always used this on valve cover gaskets on my slant sixes. Today’s cars have the valve covers buried so deeply I haven’t got the courage or ambition.
Arrgh, why did you do that? Often over the years I’ve cursed the unknown previous owner who sealed a Slant-6 valve cover to the head in this manner. The cover has to be removed for periodic tappet clearance adjustment, so why on earth would you glue it on? To stop it leaking? That’s why the factory gasket was rubber, not cork, and rubber gaskets are still available from Fel-Pro and probably others.
I used the rubber Fel-Pro valve cover gasket on my Slant 6 and GMC V-6, both with mechanical lifters. I would attach the gasket(s) only to the valve cover with a small bead of silicone, that way there was never an issue of the gasket slipping out of place during reassembly. The gasket would last through many valve adjustments.
The Slant-6 valve cover has slots for the gasket’s tabs to hold it in place for assembly; on cramped installations that tended to knock the gasket loose despite the tabs I would tie the gasket to the valve cover with short lengths of thread or dental floss through the bolt holes. That made it a cinch to put the cover in place without the gasket being knocked askew, and the string didn’t interfere with gasket sealing (though unless I was in a hurry I tended to cut and remove it after loosely installing the bolts).
Someone must have told me it was the thing to do, and I only sealed the gasket (rubber, I was no fan of cork) to the cover. My sixes were near the end of their lives, I doubt any of the valve covers ever came off again.
And thus the sermon concludes. Amen.
Tip: Never buy rear view mirror adhesive again if you have some black RTV. The rearview mirror adhesive is junk. A dollop of black RTV the size of a pea on the mirror puck will mount the mirror for the life of the windshield. I have to attach a LCD rearview monitor on my mirror when the camper is on the truck and the RTV is the only adhesive that is strong enough to hold the additional weight of the monitor. Just don’t put the mirror on for a day while it sets up.
Have never used the Gasket Shellac Compound but back in the day we swore by another Permatex product, Form-A-Gasket #2 sealing compound. This was known by me and my contemporaries as “uckem pucky”, which sort of describes what it is like when it dries. A quick check via Google shows that Form-A-Gasket #2 (and also #1, which we didn’t use for whatever reason) are still readily available. A friend once used about a half tube of #2 to seal up his distributor after a tuneup. Of course once he realized that he had installed the distributor 180 degrees out of phase, he had to take it back apart. For a product that supposedly does not get hard, Permatex Form-A-Gasket #2 can be surprisingly hard to remove.
I remember using this stuff on my ’66 Coronet’s cork valve cover gaskets—318 poly V8. It had a very interesting smell and set up pretty quickly. It was a PIA to scrape the gaskets off when it was valve adjustment time but there were never any leaks.
One water pump (aluminum block for extra points) was enough for me. Probably still have the mostly-full bottle out there somewhere.
Now I use Three Bond TB1184 or Hylomar.
I do like shellac for wood stuff.
Try posting about your Telefunken on Audiokarma. Look THAT up in your telefunken wagnalls.
Much obliged, good suh; I’ll check on Audiokarma. And yes, thanks, I do get that “…in your Funk & Wagnalls” reference. ツ
Neat post, I am waiting for the MMO one now. I too have had the weatherstrip adhesive blues (yellows?). A cast aluminum oil pan and that stuff, one wouldn’t need hardware. Except maybe a jackhammer to remove it. My gasket gunk of choice for most porous materials is Gasgacinch. Works well and isn’t difficult to remove down the road. When RTV is needed I reach for the ultra copper. Let’s not forget the shop gift that keeps on giving, antisieze. A little bit goes a long way and look out if you happen to get some on you in an inconspicuous place as it WILL end up everywhere. Great fun when someone from another department comes over to abuse our crapper and then forgets their hat. Just a dab on the inside at the front and……..
This stuff was very similar and popular on the West Coast:
http://gasgacinch.com/
Still around, and the can looks much the same. These products were ideal for cork gaskets, but not as many applications in modern vehicles. Still has it’s place though.
Looks similar in that it’s an olde-tyme product still on the market, still in an olde-tyme-looking package.
Not very similar in composition, though—that, per the MSDS, is neoprene dissolved in toluene and aliphatic hydrocarbons. Certainly a one way of rubberising something (like a paper or cork gasket), but much(!) more toxic than rosin dissolved in alcohol.
Interesting that it is of a different composition, but has a similar application.
I had an intake leak on my ’77 Power wagon, and I tried good old Indian Head on it and it failed, so I went to some horrible stuff that was purple and had copper dust in it. It worked better than the Indian Head, but it kept leaking until I had the heads trued up and the manifold cut to match. It took 2 thick gaskets to seal it up, and I used the purple stuff to make it a one time job. If course, about a year later, I had a head gasket start seeping and had to take off the manifold again. It was torture. I finally found a huge pickle fork at the junkyard and ground the end down to make it into a huge pry bar. That purple stuff was amazingly tough stuff. It was a huge struggle even after slicing the RTV stuff I used on the ends of the manifold. In 110 degree heat, it was pretty bad to work on, even in the shade. It was one of the last repairs I made before I got rid of the truck. I don’t know why, but if I had the cash today, I would buy another one, just for grins.
It looks and sounds like an olde timey version of amyl nitrate….
»chuckle« Yes indeed. A few other of my peeps remarked similarly when I showed them this article.
Enjoy the Technical articles .
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I once used the wrong can of Permatex , maybe # 1-H ? it hardened like a rock , glad I didn’t have to take it apart again .
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These days I prefer Permatex ” The Right Stuff ” , a sealer available in tube or aerosol ,$pendy but stops those old British cars engine and axle leaks dead and isn’t difficult to remove years later .
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Thanks for bringing back a memory of something I haven’t used in decades–but I *swear* I can imagine that smell. The reviews on Amazon pretty much parallel everything said today: http://www.amazon.com/Permatex-20539-Indian-Shellac-Compound/product-reviews/B0008KLOG6
Let’s maybe call this the “transitional” container: still in glass, with the old logo, but way-more-explicit health warnings (front and back); I’ll guess “1970”:
[Rear of same bottle]
Permatex Aviation (Spermitex) was the stuff to use for sealing VW engine case halves together. Messy, but did the job. The smell is unforgettable.
3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive (Gorilla Snot) works great for separating roof rail seals on MK2 Jettas, lasts at least 5 years when applied properly, but you have to be really careful not to create a yellow mess.
Bosch grease (BO grease) (my tube must be 20 years old) was perfect for ignition points rubbing block, and also worked great when rebuilding motorcycle calipers when the NLA sealing O rings for the caliper halves started to leak. The rebuild kits came without them, and the motorcycle shop I bought the kits from suggested Bosch grease on the old ones, and 10 years later still leak free.
Gasgacinch was a favorite of VW mechanics back in the day. Nicer label art than Indian Head.
I still keep and use Gasgacinch all the time. It sure looks and feels like rubber cement. I get a kick out of the picture on the can, just something to catch the eyes of all those old (male) mechanics. Remember all the garage calendars with pin ups? I know that it’s not P.C. but so much tamer and less dehumanizing, than what’s available at the click of a mouse.
Great write up! Eagerly awaiting more.
Just the mention of Indian Head shellac brought the smell to memory. Once had a bottle leak into the bottom of my toolbox and harden. The language employed upon discovery just isn’t suitable for polite company. 😉
The smell of WD40 can go either way. Sometimes a squirt will get a stuck whatzit moving again. Sometimes not.
Another of my favorite toolbox smells is Kroil. (Don’t spoil it, Kroil it!) Many times for me, the application of Kroil has resulted in the sweet smell of success.
I’m firmly in the Kroil
campkamp, myself. It’ll feature prominently in a forthcoming CC Toolbox.I do not keep WD-40 on hand, and have never wished I had it.
I am a big fan of Kroil. As a 28 year marine mechanic, rust and corrosion is the norm, not the exception. (car dudes have it easy in comparison) The best penetrating oil I have ever used. More money than others, but well worth it. I have never been a fan of Gasgacinch, but Edelbrock swears by it; it is in their catalog
Certainly a distinctive odor. The one most most evocative to me, though, is Hoppe’s No. 9. The automotive connection? Driving with my dad through the cold pre-dawn darkness to our favorite small-game fields.
Ca. 1957 I had a tube of craft glue called Stick-Um Goo, with a cartoon of a native American chief on the tube. There was a plastic blade, which the mfr likened to a feather, attached to the tube.
The instructions printed on the tube said, among other things, “Squeeze-um glue from tube. Now spread-um with feather.”
Of course something like this wouldn’t fly today.
I’m glad it wouldn’t. There’s a long way to go, still, but it’s good to pause and take note that we’re making progress, as a society, towards being thoughtful adults. The irony is not lost on me of making that comment in the midst of this present flaming cesspool of a presidential election.
haha. That’s hilarious. Such thoughtful, descriptive words went into advertising back then. Those were the days my friends
Great writeup! Just what I needed to start my workday (although maybe a whiff of Indian Head Gasket Shellac would help) but I must say I’ve never encountered the stuff.
I’m a fan of Permatex High Tack. Not only does it stick the gasket to whatever you’re trying to seal, but it comes in a fetching purple color. Also you can make Jackson Pollock-esqe art because it strings between the brush and the can, then falls on your valve cover. Maybe they need to spice up the labeling on the can with a Pollock theme.
Too bad no aerosol spray version, which could be tarted up with Rothko-themed labelling. ツ
Fun article, I remember seeing it in the Permatex catalog, but my go to product has always been Hylomar. A British product originally made for Rolls Royce jet engines, it is sticky enough to hold gaskets nicely in place, but really doesn’t harden, and is oil soluble so you don’t get “silicone in the oil passage” problem.
Well written. Love the choice of words and descriptive scenarios that really bring back memories. The sights and sounds (and smells) are re-lived through your words!
P.S. I’ve always loved the smell of Indian head gasket shellac. I have no idea why. But I always have even as a teenager working on my father’s Ford. Brings back memories. LOL
Was this article written with the thesaurus?
No. The thesaurus was cut up years ago to make gaskets.
Smokey Yunick didn’t need one either.
No; I can’t remember the last time I looked at a thesaurus.
“it smells of the victory, however fleeting, of tenacity over entropy.”
Thank you for that. Excellent wordcraft. I’d like to use it in the future.
I’m known on various automotive forums for jacking-up people for coating gaskets with RTV silicone. There’s many silicone gasket-maker products, lots of brand names; lots of colors. There may be an application that’s perfectly suitable for whatever version of RTV you’re holding in your hand–but using it as a gasket dressing isn’t one of them. RTV is meant to replace a gasket, not to enhance a gasket. RTV silicone on a gasket is an invitation to having the gasket slide out-of-position either before, during, or just after the fastener-tightening process. The only legitimate use for RTV silicone when using gaskets is as a “dot” at the seam between two gaskets or a dot on the seam between a gasket and a rubber seal. Otherwise, throw the gasket in the trash, use a bead of silicone *instead* of the gasket. Permatex “The Right Stuff” is superior to any RTV silicone I’ve used. Rumor has it that “The Right Stuff” is Polyurethane, not Silicone.
Hylomar is first-class product. It’s also priced accordingly. I believe that Gasgacinch does everything that Hylomar does–secure the gasket, seal the gasket, and make for delightfully easy gasket clean-up later–for automotive applications, and at 1/10 the price of Hylomar. Hylomar may be the preferred choice for jet aircraft engines–that’s what Rolls-Royce intended it for.
I’ve used Hylomar, Gasgacinch, Copper Coat, High Tack, Permatex #2, and various other gasket sealers. They all work. I’ve got an unopened bottle of Permatex #3 (Aviation) sealer on the Chemical Cart right now. I’m happy to try various products. The last pair of steel-shim head gaskets I installed got coated with a big plastic brush-top tub of Permatex “Teflon” pipe thread sealer. Worked great. There’s a dozen perfectly-acceptable gasket dressings; but none of them are RTV Silicone. There was a time I used 3M Weatherstrip adhesive; never again on gaskets ‘n’ seals. Cleanup of weatherstrip adhesive is a disaster.
Nicknames for chemicals must be a regional thing; to me “Gorilla snot” is RTV silicone. Weatherstrip adhesive is “Yellow Death”.
For the record, Fel-Pro states that their gaskets do not require gasket sealers. I’m considering cutting back on them. It’s a hard habit to break. Gasket sealers are comfortable and reassuring; going without is like working naked.
Don’t get me started on thread sealers, thread lockers, and anti-seize. Suffice to say that I almost never install a “dry” bolt into a nut or threaded hole.
I found this thread when doing some research on the Permatex gasket Shellac Compound, no Indian Head and I have taken a few whiffs in the past 20 minutes, it has a certain something that is hard to explain but strangley satisfying.
Permatex: If you never ever ever want it to leak, and you never ever ever want to disassemble it, use Permatex. 👍🏻
LOVE the smell of this stuff! I use it on fuel pumps and thermostat housings. Never thought it was any harder to remove than any other “stickum”.
Smell.
Smell that?
Do you smell that?
I love the smell of Indian Head gasket shellac compound in the morning.
That smell.
You know that shellac smell…
It smells like …………………victory
My entire career revolved around vehicle repair and service I developed a love/hate relationship with these various sealants. The sealants would often work against you if you weren’t careful. I came across many oil leaks caused by the sealants. Cork pan gaskets that were pushed apart by the infamous 3M yellow snot. The toughest applications for sealing was the cheap stamped steel oil pans, valve covers, diff covers, etc. The parts were usually distorted, you could hammer them back into shape and stick them back together. I worked for GM when they went thru the RTV everything together phase. The sealant usually worked but it was the crap the sealant was holding together that failed. Small block Chevy valve covers glued in place. You had to chisel them off the cylinder heads. The SBC head has an “as cast” surface for the gasket to seal on, not a machined surface. The surface is not flat, it is curved. The RTV really grabs unto that surface and is very difficult to remove. The other issue with any place that has had RTV used on is bolt hole clean out. If you have old RTV in the hole and you get more in the hole on assembly you may get a broke out bolt hole from hydraulic lock under the bolt.
The one spot you definitely needed some gasket glue was the multi piece “puzzle” gaskets that Cat used on their oil pans. These gasket pieces are rarely flat and the pieces connect to each other like pieces in a jigsaw puzzle. Cat mostly used cast aluminum oil pan and while the pan seals wonderfully it is not forgiving of gasket over lap. The correct process for installing a Cat pan is to clean the pan as soon as it is removed so it will be absolutely dry when you glue that puzzle piece gasket on the pan. Glue the gasket in place, leave it sit for half an hour recheck it and then install the pan, carefully, run up bolts carefully, spread the load evenly.
Detroit’s had steel pans and cork gaskets, no sealant at all, I would use part tag wire thru several holes to hold the gasket in place and if there was room 4-6 studs for pan alignment, all bolts in while the pan was hanging loose and then run it home.
To this day all diff covers go back on with a gasket, no goop here. Lube Locker makes excellent gaskets for diff covers.
RTV is seen as the be all and end all for sealing stuff up and is used in places where it reeks disaster. The worst application I saw? Someone thought it was a good idea to use it on the valvebody of an Allison transmission. Scratch one Allison tranny.
Speaking of the PC product name issue. I am all for dumping the ball team names, Washington Redskins and the Cleveland Indians. I will say though the names that replaced them are so lame, Guardians? Commanders?
Unsurprisingly, it appears Permatex has retired the Indian Head name and logo; it’s now called Permatex Original Gasket Shellac Compound, although they’re smart enough to make sure searching for “Indian Head shellac” (or gasket or compound) on Google, Amazon, or their own website still gets you to what you’re looking for.
https://www.permatex.com/products/gasketing/gasket-sealants/permatex-original-gasket-shellac-compound-2-oz/
Must be a very recent change—when I wrote this piece in 2016, it was still under the old name. Still, I’m not sad. “Indian Head” is just not on, though today I can’t bring myself to make any selfgratulatory remarks about enlightened society.
Oh, and agree about the team names. I live near DC and thought Pigskins would have worked given (1) you could could retain their ‘Skins abbreviated nickname, (2) also retain their distinctive fight song (how many NFL teams have one?) with minor lyrical changes, (3) “Hogs” was a nickname for a vintage front line, and (4) a “pigskin” is a football. Commanders isn’t horrifically bad, it’s just so generic.
It’s the second big DC sports team to change its name. The local NBA basketball club used to be called the Bullets, which the owner (and many others) thought not a tactful name in a city so plagued with gun violence, so they became the Wizards (another generic name with nothing indigenous to Washington DC).
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Fine stuff! I highly recommend The Oatmeal’s “My Dog The Paradox”.
As a marine electrician, my personal favorite is ye olde Permatex #2. For sealing up electrical stuff with bare copper bits inside it’s the thing to use. Newbies want to use RTV, but the acidic fumes will put a non-conductive patina onto copper. I’ve made that mistake myself, but if you seal up a DC motor with RTV the commutator can be rendered useless.
Permatex #2 has been around “forever” and I’m pretty sure it’s main ingredients amount to turpentine and coal tar but it seals well, never completely hardens, and is relatively easy to clean up. For a permanently weatherproof repair I like to let the permatex dry for a few days or so and then paint over it.
You know, I’ve seen it on shelves for years, but I’ve never tried it. Good to know!
I’ve had good results with Permatex 2 Form-A-Gasket as well. I also often use their Red threadlocker high strength which works well.
Besides “Indian Head”, something else from the old label (the one on back) you’ll almost never see anymore is “Inflammable Mixture”. Inflammable means “combustible” or “can explode or catch on fire”. But many people got thrown off by the “in-” at the beginning of the word and thought it meant “cannot catch on fire” which could be a major safety threat, so it was dropped in favor of “flammable” so it wouldn’t be misconstrued. “Flammable” and “inflammable” have always meant the same thing (they made their way into English through different routes), but the latter term has all but disappeared from warning labels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustibility_and_flammability#Definitions
Canada-spec product labels are bilingual English/”French”*. So we get rubbing alcohol, carburetor cleaner, and other suchlike labelled FLAMMABLE – INFLAMMABLE.
I sort of wonder if anyone in the history of ever was actually confused by “inflammable”. Did anyone ever look at an oil tanker truck or a bottle of paint thinner and go “Oh, good, it’s inflammable, so that means it can’t catch on fire!”? Or did someone make up this alleged confusion out of thin air?
*in quotes because much of it is ridiculously bad quality. A bottle of vitamins labelled Antioxidant protection on one side and Protection contre les antioxydants on the other (“protection against antioxidants”). And you should just see (no, you shouldn’t) the mangled alphabet soup that comes on cheap Chinese products’ warning labels!
One of the things I best like about visiting Montreal (where most of my family lives) are all the bilingual labels on every product label, form, and many signs (the ones that weren’t removed when Quebec restricted English on signs for awhile). Like I’ll drive to a corner and see a red octagonal sign that says
ARRÊT
STOP
and now I know what the French word for “stop” is. As a result, I can read French and know what >90% of it means, but can barely speak it.
Normally I don’t link to specific YouTube channels. However the Projectfarm channel is just so awesome. He performs clever comparison tests on automobile products like penetrants, lubricants, oil, rust remover, tools and many others. The link below is for penetrants. I’ve learned quite a bit from his “showdowns” and saved money too.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DxUEob2oAKVs&ved=2ahUKEwiP44i4hsf4AhUOEEQIHcgfATsQwqsBegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw21Dgkn-FAG9e5loZXe69T_
Kroil fan here. Love the smell, loosens anything.
I have to chime in and say that this is a really well written article!
Thanks kindly, Jon!
I prefer this over blaster and wd40
https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/free-all/free-all-11-ounce-penetrating-oil/fal0/re12?q=penetrating+oil&pos=1
Permatex giveth, and permatex taketh away:
https://www.permatex.com/product-category/gasketing/gasket-removers/
I’m writing to thank you for this posting which I’ve found very useful and informative. Your Aug. 3,’16 post comparing Gasgacinch to Gasket Shellac Compound’s toxicity I would hace thought shellac would be made from the shell of the Lack bug or is rosin also made from the Lack bug? Where would I find more tool box Info? I noted there no test report of Morgans, I’m sure I have some in older Magazines, how would I submit them to CC